Hotdog Fingers Mafia [Game over, Mafia won]

[Porscha]

I've at least given a few live takes and interactions with more than one other slot which is more than you can say for yourself

Fortunately I don't have to solve myself.

but we all have to, you see

Yes but she was framing my behaviour as somehow relevant to her alignment when it's obviously not so the defense isn't genuine it's just designed to undermine the validity of my argument which is that nutella lockwolf lolrekt.

it's only obvious to you, you see

[Porscha]

[VOTE: mac] aubergine

explain yourself

[Porscha]

It was opportunistic lol the problem here is that opportunism is not actually scummy as often as people like to paint it as such

if opportunism is not scummy as often as you say, then like, what is it? how is opportunism meant to be towny lol

I feel like opportunism has an inherent negative tone to it

but also liiiiiiiiike if it was something you were trying to avoid being pointed out then I'm less inclined to think you'd own it and try to defend it which leads me to believe you believe what you're saying and not just deflecting

Generous appraisal if you ask me.

how do you interpret it then?

[Porscha]

I dont know how much I dont love falcon's vote on nutella tbh. kinda dont love it

[Porscha]

like there's a lot of things I've liked falcon do in our very long and intimate friendship and that isn't one of them

[Lilypetal]

[VOTE: mac] aubergine

explain yourself

just not feeling it with mac rn lol

[Porscha]

[VOTE: mac] aubergine

explain yourself

just not feeling it with mac rn lol

are you able to explain why you think mac hero votes nutella just to double down on the vote after nutella actually posts

[Lilypetal]

[VOTE: mac] aubergine

explain yourself

just not feeling it with mac rn lol

are you able to explain why you think mac hero votes nutella just to double down on the vote after nutella actually posts

how is that a hero vote? fmpov mac is blatantly pushing a villager and getting 0 pushback while others pile on. I don't get the nutella vote at all and it just looks like Mac is openwolfing

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

So I'm going to vote with falcon instead.

Pocket accepted.






Hop in, should be a merry ride

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

I've decided to build a town core.

Lilypetal
Neon
Porscha
Seanzie
WindwardAway



Yeah that's the stuff right there...

Is lily towncored more than yourself based on this list

It's not in order

what would it look like if it were in order

It wouldn't. I don't believe in order.

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

like there's a lot of things I've liked falcon do in our very long and intimate friendship and that isn't one of them

Why ?

Felt legit AF to me.


Vote: Nutella. Still sheeping Falcon. Still think that wagon movement on him contained a wolf.

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

I admittedly don't actually think Nutella is wolf here. But that happened after Falcons vote happened so I'm not sure why Porscha thinks Falcons vote is specifically wolfy.


My vote is wolfy but I've pledged my vote to falcon

For nowTM.

I think falcon and nutella are probably T v T.

[Porscha]

I admittedly don't actually think Nutella is wolf here. But that happened after Falcons vote happened so I'm not sure why Porscha thinks Falcons vote is specifically wolfy.


My vote is wolfy but I've pledged my vote to falcon

For nowTM.

I think falcon and nutella are probably T v T.

Honestly just looking at the 3v3 wagon between nutella and falcon made me dislike his specific vote

[WindwardAway]

LOL only 1/3rd OF THE VOTES FOR WHO WE LOVE MOST OUT. LMAO EVERYONE SCARED OF COMMITMENT IN HERE

I am very scared of commitment, you got me
I'm gonna break the habit and do a dumb thing, though.

[VOTE: Falcon] aubergine

Hey @falcon45ca you said you might come back to drunkpost but you didnt

I had the best intentions, but got pretty deep into darts tourney

Fair enough lol
[VOTE: unvote] aubergine

[Porscha]

I admittedly don't actually think Nutella is wolf here. But that happened after Falcons vote happened so I'm not sure why Porscha thinks Falcons vote is specifically wolfy.


My vote is wolfy but I've pledged my vote to falcon

For nowTM.

I think falcon and nutella are probably T v T.

Lol wait you tr nutella but you're choosing to vote her anyway just cuz falcon is?

[WindwardAway]

I'm just caught up again, glad this is a slowing game. I'm tempted to vote falcon too, usually he'd be in here making a case as civ falcon and the lack of that has me eyeballing. I'm just starting to be able to read him a tiny bit. Him not being here doesn't help my progress.

I'll lay a vote here and try to get him to come out and play.

[VOTE: falcon] aubergine

Lol that was also my thought when I saw Kate's vote follow mine
Still catching up, though
Of the votes on my wagon, this one is the most opportunistic.



[VOTE: kate] aubergine

[Porscha]

I'm just caught up again, glad this is a slowing game. I'm tempted to vote falcon too, usually he'd be in here making a case as civ falcon and the lack of that has me eyeballing. I'm just starting to be able to read him a tiny bit. Him not being here doesn't help my progress.

I'll lay a vote here and try to get him to come out and play.

[VOTE: falcon] aubergine

Lol that was also my thought when I saw Kate's vote follow mine
Still catching up, though
Of the votes on my wagon, this one is the most opportunistic.



[VOTE: kate] aubergine

?

[Porscha]

Am I missing something

[WindwardAway]

This quick wagon on Falcon feels sussy. I ain't going anywhere near it.

I like how I pressure voted him and went to sleep and woke up to find a bunch of votes that apparently followed mine
I don't like it either and tbh I think falcon's reaction to it is fine, maybe even towny

[WindwardAway]

I dont know how much I dont love falcon's vote on nutella tbh. kinda dont love it

What do you make of specifically the progression of falcon voting Kate first and then jumping to nutella?

[WindwardAway]

I admittedly don't actually think Nutella is wolf here. But that happened after Falcons vote happened so I'm not sure why Porscha thinks Falcons vote is specifically wolfy.


My vote is wolfy but I've pledged my vote to falcon

For nowTM.

I think falcon and nutella are probably T v T.

Honestly just looking at the 3v3 wagon between nutella and falcon made me dislike his specific vote

Oh this sort of answered my question above
Gonna think on it for another minute... Or hour... Idk

[WindwardAway]

I'm just caught up again, glad this is a slowing game. I'm tempted to vote falcon too, usually he'd be in here making a case as civ falcon and the lack of that has me eyeballing. I'm just starting to be able to read him a tiny bit. Him not being here doesn't help my progress.

I'll lay a vote here and try to get him to come out and play.

[VOTE: falcon] aubergine

Lol that was also my thought when I saw Kate's vote follow mine
Still catching up, though
Of the votes on my wagon, this one is the most opportunistic.



[VOTE: kate] aubergine

?

Oh wtf my post got sucked into the middle of that post
I had to read this twice to figure out what happened
The bolded text is supposed to be my reply

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

I admittedly don't actually think Nutella is wolf here. But that happened after Falcons vote happened so I'm not sure why Porscha thinks Falcons vote is specifically wolfy.


My vote is wolfy but I've pledged my vote to falcon

For nowTM.

I think falcon and nutella are probably T v T.

Honestly just looking at the 3v3 wagon between nutella and falcon made me dislike his specific vote

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

I admittedly don't actually think Nutella is wolf here. But that happened after Falcons vote happened so I'm not sure why Porscha thinks Falcons vote is specifically wolfy.


My vote is wolfy but I've pledged my vote to falcon

For nowTM.

I think falcon and nutella are probably T v T.

Lol wait you tr nutella but you're choosing to vote her anyway just cuz falcon is?

Yes

[Porscha]

I'm just caught up again, glad this is a slowing game. I'm tempted to vote falcon too, usually he'd be in here making a case as civ falcon and the lack of that has me eyeballing. I'm just starting to be able to read him a tiny bit. Him not being here doesn't help my progress.

I'll lay a vote here and try to get him to come out and play.

[VOTE: falcon] aubergine

Lol that was also my thought when I saw Kate's vote follow mine
Still catching up, though
Of the votes on my wagon, this one is the most opportunistic.



[VOTE: kate] aubergine

?

Oh wtf my post got sucked into the middle of that post
I had to read this twice to figure out what happened
The bolded text is supposed to be my reply

gotcha lol

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

This quick wagon on Falcon feels sussy. I ain't going anywhere near it.

I like how I pressure voted him and went to sleep and woke up to find a bunch of votes that apparently followed mine
I don't like it either and tbh I think falcon's reaction to it is fine, maybe even towny

Yeah falcon is town

[Porscha]

I admittedly don't actually think Nutella is wolf here. But that happened after Falcons vote happened so I'm not sure why Porscha thinks Falcons vote is specifically wolfy.


My vote is wolfy but I've pledged my vote to falcon

For nowTM.

I think falcon and nutella are probably T v T.

Lol wait you tr nutella but you're choosing to vote her anyway just cuz falcon is?

Yes

....... for why

[Seanzie]

[VOTE: Rondo] aubergine

[Seanzie]

Y,all should uhh... sheep me or something.

[WindwardAway]

When did Rondo vote nutella?

[WindwardAway]

That wagon is so weird, idk what it means for nutella
Mac says he thinks she's wolfing
Falcon didn't like her vote on him
Neon is sheeping falcon but thinks nut is town
And I don't remember when or why Rondo voted her

[WindwardAway]

Ngl I'm tempted to vote there too for the funnies (and also because I do actually think she could be wolfing)
But I don't have a strong enough case on her. It would be a shrugvote and then depending on her flip I'd examine people currently on her wagon.
I guess I'll hold off for now and do other things

[WindwardAway]

Starting with...

[VOTE: TSP] aubergine

[Seanzie]

Ngl I'm tempted to vote there too for the funnies (and also because I do actually think she could be wolfing)
But I don't have a strong enough case on her. It would be a shrugvote and then depending on her flip I'd examine people currently on her wagon.
I guess I'll hold off for now and do other things

I don't think Nutella is a good shrug vote. What do you think of Rondo?

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

I admittedly don't actually think Nutella is wolf here. But that happened after Falcons vote happened so I'm not sure why Porscha thinks Falcons vote is specifically wolfy.


My vote is wolfy but I've pledged my vote to falcon

For nowTM.

I think falcon and nutella are probably T v T.

Lol wait you tr nutella but you're choosing to vote her anyway just cuz falcon is?

Yes

....... for why

Why not?

[S~V~S]

Oh great, the two leading wagons are people I have issues sorting. Just read the last page so far. So Neon is voting Nutella because she is sheeping Falcon, even though she prolly thinks Nutellas's town? Is Rondo voting her cause she kinda bah humbugged his "Happy Happy Joy Joy" routine?

I'll have to read back to find out. But It's super unlikely I'll vote for Nutella, unless there is a super case out there not based on tone or gut reads, because I *always* wolf read her, so my take on her is not reliable.

Also need to ISO read Kate and Wilgy, as well as the thread as a whole, to see why they're voting Falcon. I don't recall much of what either of them said before I was last here. Having voted to elim him in t/t scenarios more than once, and having watched his Day one as a wolf in a w/w scenario, I still have issues telling his games apart. So if my vote goes there, it'll be because I'm sheeping someone i trust. I had good feels about a few people, lets see if they pan out.

I feel pretty good about Kate, her reaction to being at the bottom of nutellas list felt towny to me. I don't recall much of anything from Wilgy. As of my last post, I had good feels about Porscha, Dennis, Windward and Sean, mostly based on feels.


I'll be here most of the day.

[S~V~S]

Has TSP posted at all?

I mean on D1

Nvm, I answered my own question
TSP posted exactly once. And it was on D0, so no, they didn't post today.

The last time I played with him, he was mostly a no show until he pretty much wasn't. Then he came in with a spot on "Player X bad lol" post and was on the money. So don't know if he added much to the towns solve rate there since the bads won that game, but is this his norm, good or bad? He's still at only one.

[S~V~S]

Tbh you guys can mischop me d1 for all I care my legacy is sean wolf semi unironically

Do you disagree your vote on me looks opportunistic?

It was opportunistic lol the problem here is that opportunism is not actually scummy as often as people like to paint it as such

This is why I always wolf read Nutella. She says stuff like this lol

I ran into a run of Falcons posts during the time when he was taking votes, and his reactions seemed reasonable. I read back, and I liked the way he poked Dennis a bit, even though I thought Dennis word choice issue wasn't AI. If I had to put him in a list, I wouldn't town core Falcon over his ISO, but he'd be in the upper-middle of the middle group. But definitely not in the red.

I'm never rescinding my nutella wolfread.

Is this tone, "lack of fire" mainly? You voted her in your first post, when she had made only 2 posts, both total OT. Would you (who have played with her much more recently overall than I have, I'm sure her game has changed and my experience of her is outdated for the most part) have expected her to have been MORE involved in the Zero lolcattery than she was?

Also, after reading both of you, I get what you mean about the WIM thing, esp when I contrast her more enthusiastic GOC. I also would think after you told her that fairly early in Day One that she would have tried to WIM it up a bit?

So I could see it but I have seen "meh whatever" kinda Nutella as a civ too.

I'm just caught up again, glad this is a slowing game. I'm tempted to vote falcon too, usually he'd be in here making a case as civ falcon and the lack of that has me eyeballing. I'm just starting to be able to read him a tiny bit. Him not being here doesn't help my progress.

I'll lay a vote here and try to get him to come out and play.

[VOTE: falcon] aubergine

Of the votes on my wagon, this one is the most opportunistic.



[VOTE: kate] aubergine

Having read back, a bit of the shine is off of Kate for me. Still in the top half, but I agree with Falcon that this looked opportunistic. BUT this is also a vote I am not sure that bad Kate would make, because she'd worry about looking opportunistic (bad Kate worries ALOT), whereas town Kate does not; she's a lot more fearless than bad Kate. So I still think she's town, but there is a tiny bit of doubt.

I am not seeing Professor Wilgy as of yet, or other things I associate with town Wilgy, so I won't be sheeping his vote based on trust.

[S~V~S]

~snip~

I distinctly remember thinking Wilgy was towny?

Source?

Why? What are you seeing that I am not?

[S~V~S]

@Dennis cause I know ^^that was the distinctly/Vaguely post. But I'd like to know what even vaguely town thing you saw.

[S~V~S]

I dont know how much I dont love falcon's vote on nutella tbh. kinda dont love it

What do you make of specifically the progression of falcon voting Kate first and then jumping to nutella?

Both of those votes felt pretty opportunistic to be tbh, and I have seen Falcon make omgus votes as town. And at least Kate gave a reason, as opposed to:

Sure lets [VOTE: falcon] aubergine

I don't know how many had voted nutella had at that time; self pres could have come into it.


At this time I'm going to [VOTE: Wilgy] aubergine

I <3 Whimsy Wilgy, but I need Prof Wilgy to help me sort this all out, and hope this vote will bring him out.

[nutella]

[VOTE: mac] aubergine

explain yourself

just not feeling it with mac rn lol

are you able to explain why you think mac hero votes nutella just to double down on the vote after nutella actually posts

how is that a hero vote? fmpov mac is blatantly pushing a villager and getting 0 pushback while others pile on. I don't get the nutella vote at all and it just looks like Mac is openwolfing

Im torn on this tbh I think Mac is more likely to go for the pocket on me as wolf but it's possible he could be trying this. The thing is i find it believable he found my entrance weak but it's weird he's only doubling down on it the more I post

[nutella]

Y,all should uhh... sheep me or something.

Can we just kill this please lol

[Seanzie]

Y,all should uhh... sheep me or something.

Can we just kill this please lol

I'm literally over here pro-gaming, but okay.

What is your issue with me?

[falcon45ca]

It was opportunistic lol the problem here is that opportunism is not actually scummy as often as people like to paint it as such

What is the towny incentive to vote opportunistically?







Or at the very least, what was your incentive?

[nutella]

Y,all should uhh... sheep me or something.

Can we just kill this please lol

I'm literally over here pro-gaming, but okay.

What is your issue with me?

The vibes are wrong

[nutella]

It was opportunistic lol the problem here is that opportunism is not actually scummy as often as people like to paint it as such

What is the towny incentive to vote opportunistically?







Or at the very least, what was your incentive?

To consolidate votes on someone who can be agreed upon as poe.

[falcon45ca]

It was opportunistic lol the problem here is that opportunism is not actually scummy as often as people like to paint it as such

What is the towny incentive to vote opportunistically?







Or at the very least, what was your incentive?

To consolidate votes on someone who can be agreed upon as poe.

D1 falcon POE is game losing far more often than not for town, so what's the town incentive there?





Are you implying that you're TR the other players on my wagon (Wind, Wilgy, Kate)?

[falcon45ca]

OMG I THINK I LIED AGAIN LOL.

I THINK I FUCKING LOVE KATE/SVS/NUTELLA THE MOST

THEY GOT SEXY ASS MOOOOVES





Yo @falcon45ca come twerk with me bitch <3

Why are you voting nutella right now?

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

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