S~V~S wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 11:23 am
Something deeply disturbing and deeply hilarious is going on here. Also confusing.
One thing town me doesn’t care for is people claiming to be town leaders and telling us who we’re gonna yeet. Ugh.
So my first vote goes to [VOTE:
nutella] aubergine
Might change it might not.
hiiiiiii
Sooo (ok screw it I'm dropping the gimmick for this post sorry)
I'm 95% sure nutella gave Kate some sort of green check on nutella
Kate's post being like "does anyone else think we should trust nutella?" Is the sort of question she asks when she's trying to imply something. A stupid question with no explanation. Idk how to explain it better than, trust me, she is my mother
AND nutella being like "it is CLEARLY something else" is them trying to get the point across that it was a green check
Either they are t/t, Kate is w and doesn't want to be outed to nutella, or they are w/w in my eyes and I think Kate is town
:pppp blehh
Thanks, son.
Let me try that again.
Thanks, son.
Oh cmoooonn ya know I love ya mumzies
It's just yer way of giving a message
Actually I thought I was supposed to be receiving a message. I guess I was wrong.
Can you elaborate on why you're voting me?
You originally said you were just sheeping Nutella, well Nutella moved.
Neon wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 4:11 pm
I'd love to discuss something but reads this game have just been this person is scum because they are scum
Like I literally do not know why I have votes...or why Sean has votes or why Nutella has votes.
I do not get it
I vibe with this hard. A lot of people aren't actually going through the due diligence of explaining their reads, and I know like I'm usually exactly this - the non-explainer, but when everyone does it, it makes it hard to do stuff, so uhh... please explain things everyone.
I couldn't remember a single thing TSP had done, so it seemed like a natural place to start.
bruh cmon it's 2023
You're right, it is 2023, and the fact that we're still using imperial units in the US is a travesty, so THAT is why I'm voting TSP. MG is my top town.
Dennis wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 3:05 pm
:3 I am so silly and happy to be here with you all !!! Insert colon three emoticon here
found nutella's wolf teammate! hahahaha got uuuu
mac I swear to god I will policy you
I would vote Mac. I do not get the feeling that they have any desire to lead town, whereas based on how I've been feeling and other people have echoed, we are lacking a strong town leader.
S~V~S wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 11:23 am
Something deeply disturbing and deeply hilarious is going on here. Also confusing.
One thing town me doesn’t care for is people claiming to be town leaders and telling us who we’re gonna yeet. Ugh.
So my first vote goes to [VOTE:
nutella] aubergine
Might change it might not.
hiiiiiii
Sooo (ok screw it I'm dropping the gimmick for this post sorry)
I'm 95% sure nutella gave Kate some sort of green check on nutella
Kate's post being like "does anyone else think we should trust nutella?" Is the sort of question she asks when she's trying to imply something. A stupid question with no explanation. Idk how to explain it better than, trust me, she is my mother
AND nutella being like "it is CLEARLY something else" is them trying to get the point across that it was a green check
Either they are t/t, Kate is w and doesn't want to be outed to nutella, or they are w/w in my eyes and I think Kate is town
:pppp blehh
Dennis, this makes me look at you askance
If Kate had info, do you think she would drop it like that, so hamfisted? I think she has a bit more nuance than that.
This looks like a bit of a soft defense of Nutella to me.
As did this. "For some reason".
Dennis wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 12:56 pm
So the falcon voting fiasco happened
Kate's falcon vote felt worse to me than nutella's vote, for some reason
But falcon's immediately voting whoever was the most opportunistic also gave me icky vibes cause it felt like it was an easy way to place his vote somewhere. Which also makes me really question why his vote was on me before. Though, it may have also been self pres cause I don't know what the vote counts were
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 3:17 pm
hard claiming and info dumping is cringe and shit... but transparently softing info and then you taking the soft and crystallising it firmly for the world which is essentially the same thing is super not cringe?
make it make sense
People are killing nutella
I'm not gonna sit around on my silly bum and let this happen, if we don't kill nutella I believe we have a better chance of hitting a wolf
And yeah while Kate probably dies for this (sorry) it gives town another kill and saves a town
You really seem to want to save Nutella.
Skip softly, my moonbeams, for I have heard tell
That the stairs up to heaven lead straight down to hell
WindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 9:20 am
Whatever, im sticking with keeping my vote where it was yesterday. Seanzie, you haven't convinced me youre town.
[VOTE:
Seanzie] aubergine
Honestly I don't feel like you're looking for town!Seanzie.
I'm not, because I think there's a lack of what I saw in the champs practice game and that's good enough for me.
I meantioned in Champs practice that I was playing in a specific way, I mentioned here that I was playing Champs practice in a specific way, at yet you don't bother to verify this at all and instead scumread me for percieved differences without being willing to reconsider? What am I to make of that?
One of your early "differences" was that in Champs practice I did both scumreads and townreads early. It actually use to be a scumtell for me to state townreads, and I still often don't bother to townhunt as town, so your understanding of me is way off, and you have plenty of people in the thread that know me better than you do to help shape your understanding.
Yes I do, and other people (nutella) also said you're not towny so it verifies my opinion.
Idc, I'll happily thunderdome you today.
Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 1:28 pm
I know it is early in the day, but I am worried about the current gamestate, and based off it, I think I'm already a reasonable candidate for elim today, and I kind of doubt that is going to change (many people who can be heavy hitters are on the sidelines, and if that remains true, this threadstate will not significantly change by EoD).
Currently though the people pushing me are doing so with nothing. Nutella has "vibes" and "Mac and TSP" stuff. Kate is sheeping this, and WWA because I am different than a game which I played in a very different way than I usually play.
Can y'all help me encourage these people to actually come at me? If I'm a wolf, they have prime opporunities to spew themselves town on me, and if I'm town and we currently sleepwalk into a Seanzie elim with these sorts of cases, y'all don't learn anything from my flip.
why aren't you pushing neon today?
I cannot recall any feeling I've had towards Neon or anything they've done, so mostly they just aren't on my mind. I know you quoted a post where I said something about Neon, but clearly it wasn't that important to me since I don't remember making it or what I was feeling when I made it.
I think Dennis genuinely thought he was seeing something with Kate because I saw it that way independently too, but if svs thinks we are teammates I can't really say anything that will make her think otherwise, we just read kates thing the same way. I now think it's possible Kate is wolf who has tmi on me though.
WindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 9:20 am
Whatever, im sticking with keeping my vote where it was yesterday. Seanzie, you haven't convinced me youre town.
pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 3:54 pm
@MacDougall what I was more trying to ask is what do you find about SVS that is scummy because in Cosmere she was mostly afk wolfing after D1/D2 (iirc) and I didn't find her in my spec chat escapades with Scotty so I feel like I'm down to sr her being normal because I don't have a better baseline
@Dennis feel free to chime in here too
I prolly have almost as many posts here as I did there already lol
But Cosmere wasn’t the norm for me, I had a death in the family and was totally AFK for 4 days then only really answered my @s and maybe one or two posts a day. Robyn carried me.
So that game is a bad baseline to use for me tbh
"So that game is a bad baseline to use for me tbh"
That's what I was trying to say, I could have been clearer, sorry. Didn't want you to have to reexplain I remembered the situation. Sorry again.
Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Apr 07, 2023 3:21 am
There is at least one wolf in Neon/Lily.
That's also my thought but idk how confident I am in it, probably less than you
hmmm
Oh thanks for reminding me lily flipped town
I was thinking one of those two names was gonna flip wolf with Seanzie
So I guess I'll look at neon again if Seanzie flips wolf which he probably will, if he doesn't, oh well
Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Apr 07, 2023 3:21 am
There is at least one wolf in Neon/Lily.
That's also my thought but idk how confident I am in it, probably less than you
hmmm
Oh thanks for reminding me lily flipped town
I was thinking one of those two names was gonna flip wolf with Seanzie
So I guess I'll look at neon again if Seanzie flips wolf which he probably will, if he doesn't, oh well
Would you look at neon if seanzie flips town though bc spoiler I definitely would
I would look at Neon regardless of Seanzie's flip tbh but especially if Seanzie flips town
So basically I'm fucked cause your tunneling me next regardless of Sean's flip.
That's ... am Intresting approach I suppose.
I decided my read on you is mostly unrelated to my read on seanzie
WindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 9:20 am
Whatever, im sticking with keeping my vote where it was yesterday. Seanzie, you haven't convinced me youre town.
[VOTE:
Seanzie] aubergine
Honestly I don't feel like you're looking for town!Seanzie.
I'm not, because I think there's a lack of what I saw in the champs practice game and that's good enough for me.
I meantioned in Champs practice that I was playing in a specific way, I mentioned here that I was playing Champs practice in a specific way, at yet you don't bother to verify this at all and instead scumread me for percieved differences without being willing to reconsider? What am I to make of that?
One of your early "differences" was that in Champs practice I did both scumreads and townreads early. It actually use to be a scumtell for me to state townreads, and I still often don't bother to townhunt as town, so your understanding of me is way off, and you have plenty of people in the thread that know me better than you do to help shape your understanding.
Yes I do, and other people (nutella) also said you're not towny so it verifies my opinion.
Idc, I'll happily thunderdome you today.
I don't want to thunderdome you, I want to see if you'll reconsider, and then figure out if you're town or wolf, and then possibly thunderdome you. Nutella knows me better than you, but still not that great.
Why don't you ask the thread for verification on if your earlier point about me not giving early townreads is wolf-indicative or town-indicative on me? DId you find the posts where I specifically say this game I'm different than last, and last game, where I said I was going to be playing differently because i was specifically trying to emulate what I would do if I'd go to champs?
nutella wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 5:59 pm
I think Dennis genuinely thought he was seeing something with Kate because I saw it that way independently too, but if svs thinks we are teammates I can't really say anything that will make her think otherwise, we just read kates thing the same way. I now think it's possible Kate is wolf who has tmi on me though.
So Kate was trusting you and sheeping you, and now as soon as she says, 'No Dennis was mistaken, I had no info', suddenly she's bad?
Yikes.
Skip softly, my moonbeams, for I have heard tell
That the stairs up to heaven lead straight down to hell
nutella wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 10:26 am
Also idk what Mac is on about lily but she was by far my top town so wolves are probably scared of me having other correct reads
I...what?
So you killed lily for other reasons like that she was top town but either way you did it so ty for that
No. What you said is literally the most insane way of thinking I've ever read in a mafia game lol
Idk about you but I TR nutella for that logic jump
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 3:26 pm
I say we kill Dennis for outing the cop.
Question
Why would a wolf out the cop in the thread if they can just keep it in scumchat and kill the cop quietly
Like if Dennis is a wolf confirming Kate as a town cop, and Kate dies, it just gives a confirmed green on nutella which is like... Super counterproductive if Kate and nutella are town and Dennis is a wolf. It doesn't help wolves at all.
nutella wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 5:59 pm
I think Dennis genuinely thought he was seeing something with Kate because I saw it that way independently too, but if svs thinks we are teammates I can't really say anything that will make her think otherwise, we just read kates thing the same way. I now think it's possible Kate is wolf who has tmi on me though.
So Kate was trusting you and sheeping you, and now as soon as she says, 'No Dennis was mistaken, I had no info', suddenly she's bad?
Yikes.
Well, yeah? I thought she had info on me and claiming she didn't makes her blind trust of me look strange does it not?
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 3:33 pm
or if nutella is green checked one must presume that tsp or svs is a wolf right?
what about falcon... he's not townie.
《Je prefere tuer tsp ou falcon avant svs》Dennis a dit. 《Penses-tu quoi de TSP ?》
Why kill TSP or falcon first? Don't like their posts, or you think they're lurking?
Honestly I've had a nagging suspicion that svs might be scum, I have reasons I don't want to go into yet, but I'm putting that thought out there publicly now.
You are Zenon, Town 1-shot Desperado. You’re known for posting a lot (namely in anime gif form), playing a lot, and, most importantly, making snap decisions – particularly in the endgame. In a recent game, Wild West FM, you were taken to final 3 and immediately voted the last wolf, resulting in a LyLo that was strictly speaking over in four minutes and two posts. This game, we’re giving you the chance to accomplish a similar feat.
High-Risk High-Reward (Day 2+, 1-shot, Immediate): Spend 6 Snapvote Charges, post Fuck it we ball glgl in bold red text, and ping a player. (When you use this ability, you should also inform the hosts privately.) If they are Town, you will strongman die. Otherwise, you will strongman kill that player. This action resolves instantly.
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 3:26 pm
I say we kill Dennis for outing the cop.
Question
Why would a wolf out the cop in the thread if they can just keep it in scumchat and kill the cop quietly
Like if Dennis is a wolf confirming Kate as a town cop, and Kate dies, it just gives a confirmed green on nutella which is like... Super counterproductive if Kate and nutella are town and Dennis is a wolf. It doesn't help wolves at all.
Thats not true.
Kate dying and flipping cop has the same net result either way outed or not outed. The point is that a town picking up a soft shouldn't out it in case the wolves didn't notice it.
Less a case of why its wolfy and more a case of its not towny.
nutella wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 5:59 pm
I think Dennis genuinely thought he was seeing something with Kate because I saw it that way independently too, but if svs thinks we are teammates I can't really say anything that will make her think otherwise, we just read kates thing the same way. I now think it's possible Kate is wolf who has tmi on me though.
So Kate was trusting you and sheeping you, and now as soon as she says, 'No Dennis was mistaken, I had no info', suddenly she's bad?
Yikes.
Well, yeah? I thought she had info on me and claiming she didn't makes her blind trust of me look strange does it not?
She thought you were IMPLYING info, so no, it doesn't, does it?
A day one misread doesn't make someone bad. And the post we're arguing about was directed at Dennis, not you. So I'd like to hear his opinion.
Skip softly, my moonbeams, for I have heard tell
That the stairs up to heaven lead straight down to hell
You are Zenon, Town 1-shot Desperado. You’re known for posting a lot (namely in anime gif form), playing a lot, and, most importantly, making snap decisions – particularly in the endgame. In a recent game, Wild West FM, you were taken to final 3 and immediately voted the last wolf, resulting in a LyLo that was strictly speaking over in four minutes and two posts. This game, we’re giving you the chance to accomplish a similar feat.
High-Risk High-Reward (Day 2+, 1-shot, Immediate): Spend 6 Snapvote Charges, post Fuck it we ball glgl in bold red text, and ping a player. (When you use this ability, you should also inform the hosts privately.) If they are Town, you will strongman die. Otherwise, you will strongman kill that player. This action resolves instantly.
Neon wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 3:39 pm
Dennis
Kate
Neon
nutella
Porscha
Seanzie
WindwardAway
That's like... probably my town right now
I was hoping Wilgys gimmick would have died by now.
Crap, I don't scumread you actually
Ngl I'm gonna drop whatever I was doing and take both you and Seanzie off my immediate PoE. I have other people I want out more.
If Seanzie still wants to TD me that's fine, I'm at fault for asking for it. But I saw something from him that made me change my mind while catching up.
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 3:26 pm
I say we kill Dennis for outing the cop.
Question
Why would a wolf out the cop in the thread if they can just keep it in scumchat and kill the cop quietly
Like if Dennis is a wolf confirming Kate as a town cop, and Kate dies, it just gives a confirmed green on nutella which is like... Super counterproductive if Kate and nutella are town and Dennis is a wolf. It doesn't help wolves at all.
Thats not true.
Kate dying and flipping cop has the same net result either way outed or not outed. The point is that a town picking up a soft shouldn't out it in case the wolves didn't notice it.
Less a case of why its wolfy and more a case of its not towny.
It's less a case
But that's still more likely a mistake inexperienced town makes than wolf makes
Neon wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 3:39 pm
Dennis
Kate
Neon
nutella
Porscha
Seanzie
WindwardAway
That's like... probably my town right now
I was hoping Wilgys gimmick would have died by now.
Crap, I don't scumread you actually
Ngl I'm gonna drop whatever I was doing and take both you and Seanzie off my immediate PoE. I have other people I want out more.
If Seanzie still wants to TD me that's fine, I'm at fault for asking for it. But I saw something from him that made me change my mind while catching up.
Dennis wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 3:05 pm
:3 I am so silly and happy to be here with you all !!! Insert colon three emoticon here
found nutella's wolf teammate! hahahaha got uuuu
mac I swear to god I will policy you
I would vote Mac. I do not get the feeling that they have any desire to lead town, whereas based on how I've been feeling and other people have echoed, we are lacking a strong town leader.
See the thing is you keep giving me really good reasons to townread someone and then saying “ah therefore wolf”
Neon wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 3:39 pm
Dennis
Kate
Neon
nutella
Porscha
Seanzie
WindwardAway
That's like... probably my town right now
I was hoping Wilgys gimmick would have died by now.
Tell me about WWA? I do not like their push on me when what they're suspecting me over could easily be cleared up by like 75% of the people in the game, and instead of doing anything to find them, they've just resigned to not do anything the rest of the game.
WWAs reason to push you might not be the best I'm not sure what it is. But I do not think that WWA as a wolf just basically straight up admits to tunneling you and only you all phase and being unwilling to look anywhere else until you die.
That just doesn't vibe wolfy to me.
Bubbly Magical Girl who loves Caitlin more than anything in the world!
You are Zenon, Town 1-shot Desperado. You’re known for posting a lot (namely in anime gif form), playing a lot, and, most importantly, making snap decisions – particularly in the endgame. In a recent game, Wild West FM, you were taken to final 3 and immediately voted the last wolf, resulting in a LyLo that was strictly speaking over in four minutes and two posts. This game, we’re giving you the chance to accomplish a similar feat.
High-Risk High-Reward (Day 2+, 1-shot, Immediate): Spend 6 Snapvote Charges, post Fuck it we ball glgl in bold red text, and ping a player. (When you use this ability, you should also inform the hosts privately.) If they are Town, you will strongman die. Otherwise, you will strongman kill that player. This action resolves instantly.
nutella wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 5:59 pm
I think Dennis genuinely thought he was seeing something with Kate because I saw it that way independently too, but if svs thinks we are teammates I can't really say anything that will make her think otherwise, we just read kates thing the same way. I now think it's possible Kate is wolf who has tmi on me though.
So Kate was trusting you and sheeping you, and now as soon as she says, 'No Dennis was mistaken, I had no info', suddenly she's bad?
Yikes.
Well, yeah? I thought she had info on me and claiming she didn't makes her blind trust of me look strange does it not?
She thought you were IMPLYING info, so no, it doesn't, does it?
A day one misread doesn't make someone bad. And the post we're arguing about was directed at Dennis, not you. So I'd like to hear his opinion.
I don't understand. I don't think Kate ever suggested she thought *I* was implying anything (Dennis did)
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 3:26 pm
I say we kill Dennis for outing the cop.
Question
Why would a wolf out the cop in the thread if they can just keep it in scumchat and kill the cop quietly
Like if Dennis is a wolf confirming Kate as a town cop, and Kate dies, it just gives a confirmed green on nutella which is like... Super counterproductive if Kate and nutella are town and Dennis is a wolf. It doesn't help wolves at all.
Thats not true.
Kate dying and flipping cop has the same net result either way outed or not outed. The point is that a town picking up a soft shouldn't out it in case the wolves didn't notice it.
Less a case of why its wolfy and more a case of its not towny.
It's less a case
But that's still more likely a mistake inexperienced town makes than wolf makes
Neon wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 3:39 pm
Dennis
Kate
Neon
nutella
Porscha
Seanzie
WindwardAway
That's like... probably my town right now
I was hoping Wilgys gimmick would have died by now.
Crap, I don't scumread you actually
Ngl I'm gonna drop whatever I was doing and take both you and Seanzie off my immediate PoE. I have other people I want out more.
If Seanzie still wants to TD me that's fine, I'm at fault for asking for it. But I saw something from him that made me change my mind while catching up.
[VOTE:
Mac] aubergine
Mac should die first.
What did you see?
A very reasonably structured post with the tone and reaction i was expecting to come more likely from town!Seanzie
So congrats, that's a point in your favor
Neon wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 4:11 pm
I'd love to discuss something but reads this game have just been this person is scum because they are scum
Like I literally do not know why I have votes...or why Sean has votes or why Nutella has votes.
I do not get it
I vibe with this hard. A lot of people aren't actually going through the due diligence of explaining their reads, and I know like I'm usually exactly this - the non-explainer, but when everyone does it, it makes it hard to do stuff, so uhh... please explain things everyone.
At least I'm not alone here
Bubbly Magical Girl who loves Caitlin more than anything in the world!
You are Zenon, Town 1-shot Desperado. You’re known for posting a lot (namely in anime gif form), playing a lot, and, most importantly, making snap decisions – particularly in the endgame. In a recent game, Wild West FM, you were taken to final 3 and immediately voted the last wolf, resulting in a LyLo that was strictly speaking over in four minutes and two posts. This game, we’re giving you the chance to accomplish a similar feat.
High-Risk High-Reward (Day 2+, 1-shot, Immediate): Spend 6 Snapvote Charges, post Fuck it we ball glgl in bold red text, and ping a player. (When you use this ability, you should also inform the hosts privately.) If they are Town, you will strongman die. Otherwise, you will strongman kill that player. This action resolves instantly.
Neon wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 3:39 pm
Dennis
Kate
Neon
nutella
Porscha
Seanzie
WindwardAway
That's like... probably my town right now
I was hoping Wilgys gimmick would have died by now.
Crap, I don't scumread you actually
Ngl I'm gonna drop whatever I was doing and take both you and Seanzie off my immediate PoE. I have other people I want out more.
If Seanzie still wants to TD me that's fine, I'm at fault for asking for it. But I saw something from him that made me change my mind while catching up.
[VOTE:
Mac] aubergine
Mac should die first.
I don't think Neon is woof either. I agree with some of her town; you and Porscha, and Kate. The rest I dunno.
Skip softly, my moonbeams, for I have heard tell
That the stairs up to heaven lead straight down to hell
You are Zenon, Town 1-shot Desperado. You’re known for posting a lot (namely in anime gif form), playing a lot, and, most importantly, making snap decisions – particularly in the endgame. In a recent game, Wild West FM, you were taken to final 3 and immediately voted the last wolf, resulting in a LyLo that was strictly speaking over in four minutes and two posts. This game, we’re giving you the chance to accomplish a similar feat.
High-Risk High-Reward (Day 2+, 1-shot, Immediate): Spend 6 Snapvote Charges, post Fuck it we ball glgl in bold red text, and ping a player. (When you use this ability, you should also inform the hosts privately.) If they are Town, you will strongman die. Otherwise, you will strongman kill that player. This action resolves instantly.
Neon wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 4:11 pm
I'd love to discuss something but reads this game have just been this person is scum because they are scum
Like I literally do not know why I have votes...or why Sean has votes or why Nutella has votes.
I do not get it
That's why I rarely do vibereads lol
I normally don't act on them or vote them, or even mention them
I got bored and unmotivated cause I was in the middle of eating brunch last time I was in the thread but I'm glad to see stuff happened while i was gone cause now I can form actual opinions
You are Zenon, Town 1-shot Desperado. You’re known for posting a lot (namely in anime gif form), playing a lot, and, most importantly, making snap decisions – particularly in the endgame. In a recent game, Wild West FM, you were taken to final 3 and immediately voted the last wolf, resulting in a LyLo that was strictly speaking over in four minutes and two posts. This game, we’re giving you the chance to accomplish a similar feat.
High-Risk High-Reward (Day 2+, 1-shot, Immediate): Spend 6 Snapvote Charges, post Fuck it we ball glgl in bold red text, and ping a player. (When you use this ability, you should also inform the hosts privately.) If they are Town, you will strongman die. Otherwise, you will strongman kill that player. This action resolves instantly.