Hotdog Fingers Mafia [Game over, Mafia won]

[nutella]

Don’t love the svs vote on nutella for the gamestate

What even are your reads ye curséd fae child

[TonyStarkPrime]

I'd love to discuss something but reads this game have just been this person is scum because they are scum


Like I literally do not know why I have votes...or why Sean has votes or why Nutella has votes.

I do not get it

I vibe with this hard. A lot of people aren't actually going through the due diligence of explaining their reads, and I know like I'm usually exactly this - the non-explainer, but when everyone does it, it makes it hard to do stuff, so uhh... please explain things everyone.

At least I'm not alone here

Nutella is scum because :gestures broadly:. If you don’t see it that’s ok I don’t believe in trying to tell people things, the ISO is right there. Sean I’m less confident on.

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Whatever, im sticking with keeping my vote where it was yesterday. Seanzie, you haven't convinced me youre town.

[VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine

Interesting

My thoughts exactly

[S~V~S]

Don’t love the svs vote on nutella for the gamestate

OK. I love it <3 I love Nutella, too. We've been playing together on and off since she was just a pup, and I had no grey in my hair.

But you think I'm not supposed to vote for the person I most think is bad? Cool.

[TonyStarkPrime]

Don’t love the svs vote on nutella for the gamestate

What even are your reads ye curséd fae child

Bold of you to assume I have reads

[Kate]

Something deeply disturbing and deeply hilarious is going on here. Also confusing.

One thing town me doesn’t care for is people claiming to be town leaders and telling us who we’re gonna yeet. Ugh.

So my first vote goes to [VOTE: nutella] aubergine

Might change it might not.

hiiiiiii

Sooo (ok screw it I'm dropping the gimmick for this post sorry)

I'm 95% sure nutella gave Kate some sort of green check on nutella

Kate's post being like "does anyone else think we should trust nutella?" Is the sort of question she asks when she's trying to imply something. A stupid question with no explanation. Idk how to explain it better than, trust me, she is my mother

AND nutella being like "it is CLEARLY something else" is them trying to get the point across that it was a green check

Either they are t/t, Kate is w and doesn't want to be outed to nutella, or they are w/w in my eyes and I think Kate is town

:pppp blehh

Thanks, son.

Let me try that again.

Thanks, son.

Oh cmoooonn ya know I love ya mumzies

It's just yer way of giving a message

Actually I thought I was supposed to be receiving a message. I guess I was wrong.

Can you elaborate on why you're voting me?

You originally said you were just sheeping Nutella, well Nutella moved.

Yea.

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

I'm bored so I voted neon. Maybe something will happen. Anything

Please

I could get all defensive and stuff

Attention cutie nerdie uwus let us all hold hands and vote for this

Unite forces of baby talkers and bad tunnelers against the evil anime girl uwu

buuuuuut I don't see anything sus about neon in this game tho?

Whats towny about her?
Everyone who isn't obvtowning is in my PoE right now and that's a hell of a lot of people.

Kindly explain who's obv towning and why?

[Seanzie]

Dennis
Kate
Neon
nutella
Porscha
Seanzie
WindwardAway

That's like... probably my town right now

I was hoping Wilgys gimmick would have died by now.

Crap, I don't scumread you actually
Ngl I'm gonna drop whatever I was doing and take both you and Seanzie off my immediate PoE. I have other people I want out more.
If Seanzie still wants to TD me that's fine, I'm at fault for asking for it. But I saw something from him that made me change my mind while catching up.

[VOTE: Mac] aubergine

Mac should die first.

What did you see?

A very reasonably structured post with the tone and reaction i was expecting to come more likely from town!Seanzie
So congrats, that's a point in your favor

... everything you just said actually usually more describes my scum play.

My normal town modus operandi is to cover myself with large amounts of fresh meat, and then stand in the middle of a field yelling, and then look around at everyone to see who is 1. wolf taking the bait, 2. town genuinely just hungry for steak, 3. wolves shying away from me in weird ways because they know I'm trying to bait then, and 4. town shying away from me because they know they can watch and find people who satisfy 1 and 3 around me.

It is not reasonably structured, but it is effective.

[TonyStarkPrime]

Don’t love the svs vote on nutella for the gamestate

OK. I love it <3 I love Nutella, too. We've been playing together on and off since she was just a pup, and I had no grey in my hair.

But you think I'm not supposed to vote for the person I most think is bad? Cool.

Well I think it’s a good vote and if it’s right I expect you to have it.

[TonyStarkPrime]

Feelin better about Sean but he’s from the land of crazy wolves so

[Seanzie]

[VOTE: Mac] aubergine

[nutella]

I'd love to discuss something but reads this game have just been this person is scum because they are scum


Like I literally do not know why I have votes...or why Sean has votes or why Nutella has votes.

I do not get it

I vibe with this hard. A lot of people aren't actually going through the due diligence of explaining their reads, and I know like I'm usually exactly this - the non-explainer, but when everyone does it, it makes it hard to do stuff, so uhh... please explain things everyone.

At least I'm not alone here

Nutella is scum because :gestures broadly:. If you don’t see it that’s ok I don’t believe in trying to tell people things, the ISO is right there. Sean I’m less confident on.

Well you're just wrong but like mac I believe you believe this. I'm not on my groove this game but I did rand town

[S~V~S]

Also @TonyStarkPrime I didn't say I suspected her for "gamestate". I suspect her for the stuff she has said.

[Seanzie]

Feelin better about Sean but he’s from the land of crazy wolves so

Have you ever seen me wolf, aside from the two games we wolfed together and I kinda potato wolfed?

[WindwardAway]

Falcon Kate TSP is the new hotness let's go

Actually I changed my mind again i think TSP might be ok
Need to see more to really decide
Would yeet pyxxy tho
Might yeet Kate idk
Might yeet Mac cause my vote's there but I still prefer his posts over pyxxy's
I think falcon's posting was OK by the end of yesterday

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Also idk what Mac is on about lily but she was by far my top town so wolves are probably scared of me having other correct reads

I...what?

So you killed lily for other reasons like that she was top town but either way you did it so ty for that

No. What you said is literally the most insane way of thinking I've ever read in a mafia game lol

Idk about you but I TR nutella for that logic jump

I haven't decided how to read it yet

[TonyStarkPrime]

Also @TonyStarkPrime I didn't say I suspected her for "gamestate". I suspect her for the stuff she has said.

No the issue is I kinda think you’re a wolf


I agree that that’s why she’s suspicious

[TonyStarkPrime]

Feelin better about Sean but he’s from the land of crazy wolves so

Have you ever seen me wolf, aside from the two games we wolfed together and I kinda potato wolfed?

Yeah

[WindwardAway]

Dennis
Kate
Neon
nutella
Porscha
Seanzie
WindwardAway

That's like... probably my town right now

I was hoping Wilgys gimmick would have died by now.

Tell me about WWA? I do not like their push on me when what they're suspecting me over could easily be cleared up by like 75% of the people in the game, and instead of doing anything to find them, they've just resigned to not do anything the rest of the game.

This is 100% true I was completely not gonna bother trying to find any towny posts by you cause I hadn't seen any up to that point but I've seen one or two now

[nutella]

Dennis
Kate
Neon
nutella
Porscha
Seanzie
WindwardAway

That's like... probably my town right now

I was hoping Wilgys gimmick would have died by now.

Crap, I don't scumread you actually
Ngl I'm gonna drop whatever I was doing and take both you and Seanzie off my immediate PoE. I have other people I want out more.
If Seanzie still wants to TD me that's fine, I'm at fault for asking for it. But I saw something from him that made me change my mind while catching up.

[VOTE: Mac] aubergine

Mac should die first.

What did you see?

A very reasonably structured post with the tone and reaction i was expecting to come more likely from town!Seanzie
So congrats, that's a point in your favor

... everything you just said actually usually more describes my scum play.

My normal town modus operandi is to cover myself with large amounts of fresh meat, and then stand in the middle of a field yelling, and then look around at everyone to see who is 1. wolf taking the bait, 2. town genuinely just hungry for steak, 3. wolves shying away from me in weird ways because they know I'm trying to bait then, and 4. town shying away from me because they know they can watch and find people who satisfy 1 and 3 around me.

It is not reasonably structured, but it is effective.

Sooo..... hm. Ok. I see.

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Dennis
Kate
Neon
nutella
Porscha
Seanzie
WindwardAway

That's like... probably my town right now

I was hoping Wilgys gimmick would have died by now.

Crap, I don't scumread you actually
Ngl I'm gonna drop whatever I was doing and take both you and Seanzie off my immediate PoE. I have other people I want out more.
If Seanzie still wants to TD me that's fine, I'm at fault for asking for it. But I saw something from him that made me change my mind while catching up.

[VOTE: Mac] aubergine

Mac should die first.

Hmmm. Why Mac? What changed? If your read on me was independent of Sean why did your tunnel on Sean change here?

[S~V~S]

Also @TonyStarkPrime I didn't say I suspected her for "gamestate". I suspect her for the stuff she has said.

No the issue is I kinda think you’re a wolf


I agree that that’s why she’s suspicious

Well I think that you're mistaken about that me = woof, but we'll see how that works out for you

[nutella]

Wind is kind of pinging me here but I'm not sure why because I've pretty much agreed with her every step of the way. I guess it makes me uneasy from her in particular

[TonyStarkPrime]

I'd love to discuss something but reads this game have just been this person is scum because they are scum


Like I literally do not know why I have votes...or why Sean has votes or why Nutella has votes.

I do not get it

I vibe with this hard. A lot of people aren't actually going through the due diligence of explaining their reads, and I know like I'm usually exactly this - the non-explainer, but when everyone does it, it makes it hard to do stuff, so uhh... please explain things everyone.

At least I'm not alone here

Nutella is scum because :gestures broadly:. If you don’t see it that’s ok I don’t believe in trying to tell people things, the ISO is right there. Sean I’m less confident on.

Well you're just wrong but like mac I believe you believe this. I'm not on my groove this game but I did rand town

Just like I don’t think I can let this slide. I really want to believe you and I want to chop wolves over your objections after you become blaringly obviously town but I think we’re not there yet

[WindwardAway]

Whatever, im sticking with keeping my vote where it was yesterday. Seanzie, you haven't convinced me youre town.

[VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine

Honestly I don't feel like you're looking for town!Seanzie.

I'm not, because I think there's a lack of what I saw in the champs practice game and that's good enough for me.

I meantioned in Champs practice that I was playing in a specific way, I mentioned here that I was playing Champs practice in a specific way, at yet you don't bother to verify this at all and instead scumread me for percieved differences without being willing to reconsider? What am I to make of that?

One of your early "differences" was that in Champs practice I did both scumreads and townreads early. It actually use to be a scumtell for me to state townreads, and I still often don't bother to townhunt as town, so your understanding of me is way off, and you have plenty of people in the thread that know me better than you do to help shape your understanding.

Yes I do, and other people (nutella) also said you're not towny so it verifies my opinion.
Idc, I'll happily thunderdome you today.

I don't want to thunderdome you, I want to see if you'll reconsider, and then figure out if you're town or wolf, and then possibly thunderdome you. Nutella knows me better than you, but still not that great.

Why don't you ask the thread for verification on if your earlier point about me not giving early townreads is wolf-indicative or town-indicative on me? DId you find the posts where I specifically say this game I'm different than last, and last game, where I said I was going to be playing differently because i was specifically trying to emulate what I would do if I'd go to champs?

Because it's much easier for me to just play the lazy card and wait to see how you react under pressure than to ask a bunch of players including wolves how they think you're playing.

[TonyStarkPrime]

Also @TonyStarkPrime I didn't say I suspected her for "gamestate". I suspect her for the stuff she has said.

No the issue is I kinda think you’re a wolf


I agree that that’s why she’s suspicious

Well I think that you're mistaken about that me = woof, but we'll see how that works out for you

Hence why I’m worried

[Seanzie]

Feelin better about Sean but he’s from the land of crazy wolves so

Have you ever seen me wolf, aside from the two games we wolfed together and I kinda potato wolfed?

Yeah

What game(s)?

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Dennis
Kate
Neon
nutella
Porscha
Seanzie
WindwardAway

That's like... probably my town right now

I was hoping Wilgys gimmick would have died by now.

Crap, I don't scumread you actually
Ngl I'm gonna drop whatever I was doing and take both you and Seanzie off my immediate PoE. I have other people I want out more.
If Seanzie still wants to TD me that's fine, I'm at fault for asking for it. But I saw something from him that made me change my mind while catching up.

[VOTE: Mac] aubergine

Mac should die first.

I don't think Neon is woof either. I agree with some of her town; you and Porscha, and Kate. The rest I dunno.

Fun fact. I suck at this game. But I am actually pretty good at finding towns... well at least when I town core them.

[MacDougall]

I'm feeling so happy and loved that I think I might let you guys get me out here cuz u deserve it (woofs I mean). I'm sure getting mean old town mac out this way would be very fun and exciting 4 u.

[TonyStarkPrime]

Let the record show I’m terrible at reading Nutella and v!Nutella /loves/ telling me I’m terrible at reading Nutella but here Nutella says “aha yeah you’re right I’ve been wolfy” .

And Mac is good at reading Nutella and I assume SVS is too

[TonyStarkPrime]

Feelin better about Sean but he’s from the land of crazy wolves so

Have you ever seen me wolf, aside from the two games we wolfed together and I kinda potato wolfed?

Yeah

What game(s)?

Bro i don’t even remember what games we wolfed together

[TonyStarkPrime]

Ok see y’all tomorrow

[WindwardAway]

I say we kill Dennis for outing the cop.

Question
Why would a wolf out the cop in the thread if they can just keep it in scumchat and kill the cop quietly

Like if Dennis is a wolf confirming Kate as a town cop, and Kate dies, it just gives a confirmed green on nutella which is like... Super counterproductive if Kate and nutella are town and Dennis is a wolf. It doesn't help wolves at all.

Thats not true.

Kate dying and flipping cop has the same net result either way outed or not outed. The point is that a town picking up a soft shouldn't out it in case the wolves didn't notice it.

Less a case of why its wolfy and more a case of its not towny.

It's less a case

That yes, i agree, but my point is then if Dennis speculates on town PRs as a wolf, that also helps town and not just wolves when he could be quiet. So I think it's like a negligent town mistake where he got overexcited that he found 2 villagers that he doesn't have to solve anymore.

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

I'd love to discuss something but reads this game have just been this person is scum because they are scum


Like I literally do not know why I have votes...or why Sean has votes or why Nutella has votes.

I do not get it

I vibe with this hard. A lot of people aren't actually going through the due diligence of explaining their reads, and I know like I'm usually exactly this - the non-explainer, but when everyone does it, it makes it hard to do stuff, so uhh... please explain things everyone.

At least I'm not alone here

Nutella is scum because :gestures broadly:. If you don’t see it that’s ok I don’t believe in trying to tell people things, the ISO is right there. Sean I’m less confident on.

I'm afraid I don't do ISOs

And I'm not confident to read nutella town but I do lean that way because I don't see how scum plays this way. Scum needs to not die generally speaking. Nutella is doing everything possible to put themself in the line of fire and doing almost nothing to get back out of it.

[Seanzie]

Feelin better about Sean but he’s from the land of crazy wolves so

Have you ever seen me wolf, aside from the two games we wolfed together and I kinda potato wolfed?

Yeah

What game(s)?

Bro i don’t even remember what games we wolfed together

I don't see why you'd say I'm from the land of crazy wolves. I don't think you know much about my wolf game tbh.

[nutella]

Let the record show I’m terrible at reading Nutella and v!Nutella /loves/ telling me I’m terrible at reading Nutella but here Nutella says “aha yeah you’re right I’ve been wolfy” .

And Mac is good at reading Nutella and I assume SVS is too

Not what I said but think what you want.

[WindwardAway]

Dennis
Kate
Neon
nutella
Porscha
Seanzie
WindwardAway

That's like... probably my town right now

I was hoping Wilgys gimmick would have died by now.

Crap, I don't scumread you actually
Ngl I'm gonna drop whatever I was doing and take both you and Seanzie off my immediate PoE. I have other people I want out more.
If Seanzie still wants to TD me that's fine, I'm at fault for asking for it. But I saw something from him that made me change my mind while catching up.

[VOTE: Mac] aubergine

Mac should die first.

I don't think Neon is woof either. I agree with some of her town; you and Porscha, and Kate. The rest I dunno.

Have you caught up on everything yet? Do you have an opinion on Seanzie?

[WindwardAway]

I'd love to discuss something but reads this game have just been this person is scum because they are scum


Like I literally do not know why I have votes...or why Sean has votes or why Nutella has votes.

I do not get it

It's all just vibes, we are but interdimensional travelers playing the piano with our toes and squirting mustard at each other

That's not good enough

Like seriously how do I defend myself against vibes that don't even change

I'm scum if Sean is town cause vibes

I'm scum if Sean is scum cause vibes.

The weird thing is that they don't want to yeet you before me.

I actually did consider yeering Neon first but I wanted to wait and see her reply

And? What have you gained by waiting for my reply?

Decided i didn't want to yeet you

[MacDougall]

Dennis
neon
nutella
porscha
pyxxy
tsp
windward

I townread u guise atm u r welcome

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Dennis
Kate
Neon
nutella
Porscha
Seanzie
WindwardAway

That's like... probably my town right now

I was hoping Wilgys gimmick would have died by now.

Crap, I don't scumread you actually
Ngl I'm gonna drop whatever I was doing and take both you and Seanzie off my immediate PoE. I have other people I want out more.
If Seanzie still wants to TD me that's fine, I'm at fault for asking for it. But I saw something from him that made me change my mind while catching up.

[VOTE: Mac] aubergine

Mac should die first.

What did you see?

A very reasonably structured post with the tone and reaction i was expecting to come more likely from town!Seanzie
So congrats, that's a point in your favor

... everything you just said actually usually more describes my scum play.

My normal town modus operandi is to cover myself with large amounts of fresh meat, and then stand in the middle of a field yelling, and then look around at everyone to see who is 1. wolf taking the bait, 2. town genuinely just hungry for steak, 3. wolves shying away from me in weird ways because they know I'm trying to bait then, and 4. town shying away from me because they know they can watch and find people who satisfy 1 and 3 around me.

It is not reasonably structured, but it is effective.

I'd argue that you've been messy at points. More reserved than maybe I expect but messy and towny.

I can't properly articulate my vibe read on you. Never have really been able to. But there's a feeling I get and it's here.

[S~V~S]

I say we kill Dennis for outing the cop.

Question
Why would a wolf out the cop in the thread if they can just keep it in scumchat and kill the cop quietly

Like if Dennis is a wolf confirming Kate as a town cop, and Kate dies, it just gives a confirmed green on nutella which is like... Super counterproductive if Kate and nutella are town and Dennis is a wolf. It doesn't help wolves at all.

Thats not true.

Kate dying and flipping cop has the same net result either way outed or not outed. The point is that a town picking up a soft shouldn't out it in case the wolves didn't notice it.

Less a case of why its wolfy and more a case of its not towny.

It's less a case

That yes, i agree, but my point is then if Dennis speculates on town PRs as a wolf, that also helps town and not just wolves when he could be quiet. So I think it's like a negligent town mistake where he got overexcited that he found 2 villagers that he doesn't have to solve anymore.

Yeah, but he was pretty pro Nutella both before and after the "ZOMG Kate got a green check on Nutella" post. I'm not sure enough to vote on him, but I want to see his response to my post @ him.

[nutella]

[VOTE: falcon] aubergine

Lets try this again lmao

[MacDougall]

seanzie/Kate
svs
falcon/wilgy

[WindwardAway]

I'm bored so I voted neon. Maybe something will happen. Anything

Please

I could get all defensive and stuff

Attention cutie nerdie uwus let us all hold hands and vote for this

Unite forces of baby talkers and bad tunnelers against the evil anime girl uwu

buuuuuut I don't see anything sus about neon in this game tho?

Whats towny about her?
Everyone who isn't obvtowning is in my PoE right now and that's a hell of a lot of people.

Kindly explain who's obv towning and why?

Nobody right now my point being, I'm not clearing ANYONE yet.
Ive seen enough from a couple people that I'm taking them out of my yeet list today, so I can shift focus to other players for a while. Hopefully by the end of the day it'll result in having decently strong reads on half the player list.

[nutella]

seanzie/Kate
svs
falcon/wilgy

Yeah p much

[MacDougall]

[VOTE: svs] aubergine

*boops ur cure nosey*

[MacDougall]

oh no it meant to say cute not cure lmao I'm silly

[nutella]

hiiiiiii

Sooo (ok screw it I'm dropping the gimmick for this post sorry)

I'm 95% sure nutella gave Kate some sort of green check on nutella

Kate's post being like "does anyone else think we should trust nutella?" Is the sort of question she asks when she's trying to imply something. A stupid question with no explanation. Idk how to explain it better than, trust me, she is my mother

AND nutella being like "it is CLEARLY something else" is them trying to get the point across that it was a green check

Either they are t/t, Kate is w and doesn't want to be outed to nutella, or they are w/w in my eyes and I think Kate is town

:pppp blehh

Thanks, son.

Let me try that again.

Thanks, son.

Oh cmoooonn ya know I love ya mumzies

It's just yer way of giving a message

Actually I thought I was supposed to be receiving a message. I guess I was wrong.

Can you elaborate on why you're voting me?

You originally said you were just sheeping Nutella, well Nutella moved.

Yea.

This post happened btw. What is this.

[WindwardAway]

Dennis
Kate
Neon
nutella
Porscha
Seanzie
WindwardAway

That's like... probably my town right now

I was hoping Wilgys gimmick would have died by now.

Crap, I don't scumread you actually
Ngl I'm gonna drop whatever I was doing and take both you and Seanzie off my immediate PoE. I have other people I want out more.
If Seanzie still wants to TD me that's fine, I'm at fault for asking for it. But I saw something from him that made me change my mind while catching up.

[VOTE: Mac] aubergine

Mac should die first.

What did you see?

A very reasonably structured post with the tone and reaction i was expecting to come more likely from town!Seanzie
So congrats, that's a point in your favor

... everything you just said actually usually more describes my scum play.

My normal town modus operandi is to cover myself with large amounts of fresh meat, and then stand in the middle of a field yelling, and then look around at everyone to see who is 1. wolf taking the bait, 2. town genuinely just hungry for steak, 3. wolves shying away from me in weird ways because they know I'm trying to bait then, and 4. town shying away from me because they know they can watch and find people who satisfy 1 and 3 around me.

It is not reasonably structured, but it is effective.

Yes, but the reaction you had to my tunneling you is decently convincing. I like reading people off of direct interaction if I don't have enough evidence otherwise. I'll push and I'll be argumentative if I think it's going to net me a solid read by the time I'm done.

[MacDougall]

seanzie/Kate
svs
falcon/wilgy

Yeah p much

don't think falcon is with seanzie either

so either falcon svs Kate or

wilgy
svs
Kate/seanzie

or maybe

wilgy
seanzie
svs

lots of woofs in these names I'm talking about tho