falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Apr 15, 2023 6:52 pm
@DrWilgy Where's your head at?
@Epignosis What was your question you had for me? What are your reads now?
@SixStrings Do you have any thoughts on anything? How are you reading Dennis today?
My suspicion of Dennis remains, however if I understand correctly, a miss this time equals a loss. That said, Dennis does NOT get the next lynch vote from me.
If you could kill one person right now, with the game on the line, who would it be and why?
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Apr 15, 2023 9:18 am
I am very weirded out by Epi being around at EoD but not voting yesterday.
I'm pretty sure I voted.
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Apr 15, 2023 9:18 am
I really felt like Epi was going to snipe at the last second and I almost moved to Dennis at the last second just so Epi couldn't have the deciding vote.
@Epignosis would you vote to save a teammate even if it meant for bad optics? Would you bus a teammate even if you could save them?
Dennis wrote: ↑Sat Apr 15, 2023 3:40 pm[VOTE:
sixstrings] aubergine
Curious as to why?
I think you have kind of been coasting with the advice of your teammates in baddie chat. Your jump onto me was pretty unexplained and felt like you were following either your teammates advice to try and get me over
And now that I've fought back, wolves have started moving, chat is being picked up and it would be harder to push me with no explanation
Dennis wrote: ↑Sat Apr 15, 2023 3:40 pm[VOTE:
sixstrings] aubergine
Curious as to why?
I think you have kind of been coasting with the advice of your teammates in baddie chat. Your jump onto me was pretty unexplained and felt like you were following either your teammates advice to try and get me over
And now that I've fought back, wolves have started moving, chat is being picked up and it would be harder to push me with no explanation
(adding onto the last sentence that I just realized I did not finish)
and that's why you just backed off with the "still suspicious, but I don't want to lynch him)
Dennis wrote: ↑Sat Apr 15, 2023 3:40 pm[VOTE:
sixstrings] aubergine
Curious as to why?
I think you have kind of been coasting with the advice of your teammates in baddie chat. Your jump onto me was pretty unexplained and felt like you were following either your teammates advice to try and get me over
And now that I've fought back, wolves have started moving, chat is being picked up and it would be harder to push me with no explanation
(adding onto the last sentence that I just realized I did not finish)
and that's why you just backed off with the "still suspicious, but I don't want to lynch him)
You have voted me twice now. If I were bad and following advice from baddie chat, why not go after the leaders? Do you have a read as to who else might be bad ?
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Apr 15, 2023 6:52 pm
@DrWilgy Where's your head at?
@Epignosis What was your question you had for me? What are your reads now?
@SixStrings Do you have any thoughts on anything? How are you reading Dennis today?
My suspicion of Dennis remains, however if I understand correctly, a miss this time equals a loss. That said, Dennis does NOT get the next lynch vote from me.
If you could kill one person right now, with the game on the line, who would it be and why?
Dennis wrote: ↑Sat Apr 15, 2023 3:40 pm[VOTE:
sixstrings] aubergine
Curious as to why?
I think you have kind of been coasting with the advice of your teammates in baddie chat. Your jump onto me was pretty unexplained and felt like you were following either your teammates advice to try and get me over
And now that I've fought back, wolves have started moving, chat is being picked up and it would be harder to push me with no explanation
(adding onto the last sentence that I just realized I did not finish)
and that's why you just backed off with the "still suspicious, but I don't want to lynch him)
You have voted me twice now. If I were bad and following advice from baddie chat, why not go after the leaders? Do you have a read as to who else might be bad ?
Because I don't know who the leaders would be, I just get that feeling from how you're playing. I've said my solve is fingersplints, falcon, and you, but I have been thinking and I'm not as confident in the two others as I am in you, admittedly mostly because most other people are townreading them
There's no progression on any reads, doesn't answer questions, and although he asked me to answer his questions...when I asked what his questions were, he never answered.
Around for EOD's (2/3) but again, he's not doing anything but pushing one player....so, if your game approach is that one-sided, and you're actually town, why even bother for the EOD presence? It doesn't make sense from a towny mindset
I run through the thread when I'm able and didn't see any questions from you. I'll go back and answer them this evening.
fingersplints wrote: ↑Sat Apr 15, 2023 11:26 am
If Dennis is wolf, his teammates can be Epi, six, and falcon? Gotta look up the comparability on the last. Going off memory atm
Seanzie brought this up, but I think it's unlikely for W Epi to risk his teammate W Dennis during EoD last night.
Quick answers for some things I saw because I'm short on time:
Splints I include you on my VCA analysis, but that doesn't mean I suspect you.
Falcon I town read Splints and Epi as it stands. I don't see a team that Epi could be on. He's likely not W/W with Dennis, and he's likely not W/W with you, and I don't think that Epi/Seanzie are W/W based on Seanzie D2.
Team exercises put me at a likely team of
SixStrings/Falcon/Seanzie
Dennis/Falcon/Seanzie
Unlikely team of Epi/Splints/SixStrings exists? I think I just lose if this is the team though.
How does Epi justify moving off my slot to save Dennis? It would out them both, Epi has had no read progression and hasn't even interacted w/ Mata.
There's no reason to believe that Epi is not paired w/ Dennis based off EOD, in fact I'd say it's the opposite...why does town Epi show up at EOD to do nothing? He doesn't move his vote, he doesn't make any new reads
fingersplints wrote: ↑Sat Apr 15, 2023 11:26 am
If Dennis is wolf, his teammates can be Epi, six, and falcon? Gotta look up the comparability on the last. Going off memory atm
Seanzie brought this up, but I think it's unlikely for W Epi to risk his teammate W Dennis during EoD last night.
Quick answers for some things I saw because I'm short on time:
Splints I include you on my VCA analysis, but that doesn't mean I suspect you.
Falcon I town read Splints and Epi as it stands. I don't see a team that Epi could be on. He's likely not W/W with Dennis, and he's likely not W/W with you, and I don't think that Epi/Seanzie are W/W based on Seanzie D2.
Team exercises put me at a likely team of
SixStrings/Falcon/Seanzie
Dennis/Falcon/Seanzie
Unlikely team of Epi/Splints/SixStrings exists? I think I just lose if this is the team though.
I came to the opposite conclusion actually. Epi's no-vote was weird IMO, and I think it raises Epi/Dennis w/w equity.
I didn't no-vote. I just didn't vote Dennis or Mata.
Dennis wrote: ↑Sat Apr 15, 2023 4:27 pm
My heart wasn't really in it because I got a 68 on a test, which is like so terrible cause I'm a straight A student and then the next day I had another test I really didn't feel confident in so I was feeling pretty shitty
But now 1. The teacher is letting me retake the first test and 2. Spring break started yesterday so I decided to just forget about it and deal with it later lol
Keep your head up. I've learned never to let a number on a piece of paper keep me down.
Dennis wrote: ↑Sat Apr 15, 2023 8:19 pm
I need more time to solve within falcon, epi and seanzie I think
You've got the same amount of time as the rest of us pal.
Yes but I need to put more time focusing on you three
since seanzie is on your list {as well as my own} lets discuss. I am leaning to vote seanzie tomorrow but we need to have some consensus. I am open to questions on me as well.
Dennis wrote: ↑Sat Apr 15, 2023 8:19 pm
I need more time to solve within falcon, epi and seanzie I think
You've got the same amount of time as the rest of us pal.
Yes but I need to put more time focusing on you three
since seanzie is on your list {as well as my own} lets discuss. I am leaning to vote seanzie tomorrow but we need to have some consensus. I am open to questions on me as well.
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Apr 15, 2023 1:44 pmHow does Epi justify moving off my slot to save Dennis? It would out them both, Epi has had no read progression and hasn't even interacted w/ Mata.
There's no reason to believe that Epi is not paired w/ Dennis based off EOD, in fact I'd say it's the opposite...why does town Epi show up at EOD to do nothing? He doesn't move his vote, he doesn't make any new reads
This makes sense, but seems to be made in assumption.
i.e. W Epi doing the save may be a death sentence, but only if W Dennis goes over in the next cycle. Like, we are assuming that W Epi would have known that his teammate Dennis is 100% going today for the lack of movement to be an attempt to distance.
I've had some drinks, so I'll say this...of course it was made in assumption, I'm town, what else do I have?
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Apr 15, 2023 6:25 pm
I agree with Seanzie that we are finally seeing town Falcon.
I'm concerned that it's some bottom of the 9th bullshit though in spite of his tinfoil and reads feeling they are coming from a place of legitimacy. I very much wish we could've solved you earlier.
You also being town making Epi the d1 wolf vote on you makes sense too.
And also! Liquid courage inspired...why does it seem you're...miffed? I dunno, like irked almost that you can solve me now.
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Apr 15, 2023 6:25 pm
I agree with Seanzie that we are finally seeing town Falcon.
I'm concerned that it's some bottom of the 9th bullshit though in spite of his tinfoil and reads feeling they are coming from a place of legitimacy. I very much wish we could've solved you earlier.
You also being town making Epi the d1 wolf vote on you makes sense too.
And also! Liquid courage inspired...why does it seem you're...miffed? I dunno, like irked almost that you can solve me now.
I'd think town would be HAPPY to find town, no?
I mean, if you are town yeah I'd be happy.
I've seen you go from a day of nada to a day of solving to a day of nada again, often that's indicative of your town game. The day of solving, that is.
It's just like I said, the fact that it had to come to the final hour to show your day of solving is concerning. Idk if when you do this is alignment indicative or not though.
nutella wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2018 2:56 pm
@DrWilgy don't post any more k
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Wilgy's vote is an enigma of science. Philosophers are known to throw their tomes across the auditorium in a fit of frustration after failing to solve its mystery.
insertnamehere wrote: ↑Wed Jun 28, 2017 11:50 pm
WTF was up with Wilgy's entire deal?
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Apr 15, 2023 9:18 am
I am very weirded out by Epi being around at EoD but not voting yesterday.
I'm pretty sure I voted.
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Apr 15, 2023 9:18 am
I really felt like Epi was going to snipe at the last second and I almost moved to Dennis at the last second just so Epi couldn't have the deciding vote.
@Epignosis would you vote to save a teammate even if it meant for bad optics? Would you bus a teammate even if you could save them?
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Apr 15, 2023 6:52 pm
@DrWilgy Where's your head at?
@Epignosis What was your question you had for me? What are your reads now?
@SixStrings Do you have any thoughts on anything? How are you reading Dennis today?
My suspicion of Dennis remains, however if I understand correctly, a miss this time equals a loss. That said, Dennis does NOT get the next lynch vote from me.
If you could kill one person right now, with the game on the line, who would it be and why?
fingersplints wrote: ↑Sat Apr 15, 2023 11:26 am
If Dennis is wolf, his teammates can be Epi, six, and falcon? Gotta look up the comparability on the last. Going off memory atm
Seanzie brought this up, but I think it's unlikely for W Epi to risk his teammate W Dennis during EoD last night.
Quick answers for some things I saw because I'm short on time:
Splints I include you on my VCA analysis, but that doesn't mean I suspect you.
Falcon I town read Splints and Epi as it stands. I don't see a team that Epi could be on. He's likely not W/W with Dennis, and he's likely not W/W with you, and I don't think that Epi/Seanzie are W/W based on Seanzie D2.
Team exercises put me at a likely team of
SixStrings/Falcon/Seanzie
Dennis/Falcon/Seanzie
Unlikely team of Epi/Splints/SixStrings exists? I think I just lose if this is the team though.
I came to the opposite conclusion actually. Epi's no-vote was weird IMO, and I think it raises Epi/Dennis w/w equity.
I didn't no-vote. I just didn't vote Dennis or Mata.
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Apr 15, 2023 6:25 pm
I agree with Seanzie that we are finally seeing town Falcon.
I'm concerned that it's some bottom of the 9th bullshit though in spite of his tinfoil and reads feeling they are coming from a place of legitimacy. I very much wish we could've solved you earlier.
You also being town making Epi the d1 wolf vote on you makes sense too.
And also! Liquid courage inspired...why does it seem you're...miffed? I dunno, like irked almost that you can solve me now.
I'd think town would be HAPPY to find town, no?
I mean, if you are town yeah I'd be happy.
I've seen you go from a day of nada to a day of solving to a day of nada again, often that's indicative of your town game. The day of solving, that is.
It's just like I said, the fact that it had to come to the final hour to show your day of solving is concerning. Idk if when you do this is alignment indicative or not though.
TBF, I feel like Falcon kinda activated like halfway through yesterday, so while it is still late game, Idk if I'd describe it as "final hour".
Keep in mind we are in ELO everyone, which means that if even one townie votes wrong or the townies split between two wolves, wolves can stack and win. As such, we really need to coordinate our votes and it is especially important to be around near EoD so we can make sure there aren't any vanity votes. We have a little under 24 hours.
Dennis wrote: ↑Sat Apr 15, 2023 8:19 pm
I need more time to solve within falcon, epi and seanzie I think
You've got the same amount of time as the rest of us pal.
Yes but I need to put more time focusing on you three
since seanzie is on your list {as well as my own} lets discuss. I am leaning to vote seanzie tomorrow but we need to have some consensus. I am open to questions on me as well.
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 9:09 am
Keep in mind we are in ELO everyone, which means that if even one townie votes wrong or the townies split between two wolves, wolves can stack and win. As such, we really need to coordinate our votes and it is especially important to be around near EoD so we can make sure there aren't any vanity votes. We have a little under 24 hours.
I understand that we need to coordinate. I don't understand ELO, but more importantly your post has flipped my vote as most likely to be wolf from you to splintz. Sadly my game is not all that multi faceted yet. Either you are genuine in your desire to bring town cohesion OR it was a great sales pitch.
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 9:09 am
Keep in mind we are in ELO everyone, which means that if even one townie votes wrong or the townies split between two wolves, wolves can stack and win. As such, we really need to coordinate our votes and it is especially important to be around near EoD so we can make sure there aren't any vanity votes. We have a little under 24 hours.
I understand that we need to coordinate. I don't understand ELO, but more importantly your post has flipped my vote as most likely to be wolf from you to splintz. Sadly my game is not all that multi faceted yet. Either you are genuine in your desire to bring town cohesion OR it was a great sales pitch.
ELO means "elim or lose", i.e. we are in a gamestate in which we absolutely MUST flip a wolf today or we insta-lose at EoD (sleep or miselim loses).
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Wilgy's vote is an enigma of science. Philosophers are known to throw their tomes across the auditorium in a fit of frustration after failing to solve its mystery.
insertnamehere wrote: ↑Wed Jun 28, 2017 11:50 pm
WTF was up with Wilgy's entire deal?
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 9:09 am
Keep in mind we are in ELO everyone, which means that if even one townie votes wrong or the townies split between two wolves, wolves can stack and win. As such, we really need to coordinate our votes and it is especially important to be around near EoD so we can make sure there aren't any vanity votes. We have a little under 24 hours.
I understand that we need to coordinate. I don't understand ELO, but more importantly your post has flipped my vote as most likely to be wolf from you to splintz. Sadly my game is not all that multi faceted yet. Either you are genuine in your desire to bring town cohesion OR it was a great sales pitch.
ELO means "elim or lose", i.e. we are in a gamestate in which we absolutely MUST flip a wolf today or we insta-lose at EoD (sleep or miselim loses).