Hotdog Fingers Mafia [Game over, Mafia won]

[Seanzie]

@MacDougall Where are you currently at on SVS?

[Seanzie]

... yeah.

[Seanzie]

People who aren't Mac, comment?

[TonyStarkPrime]

Feels like barely any svs to comment on

[Seanzie]

Feels like barely any svs to comment on

And the fact that Mac pushed this hard and then dropped it like it's hot?

[TonyStarkPrime]

He wised up

[Seanzie]

He wised up

So is SVS wolf or town in this defense of yours?

[Dennis]

Town

Mac - just like bleeding town

SVS - I'm convinced by that one interaction with pyxxy they can't be w/w

Kate - hi mom

Zenon - I think I said this like 4 times go look at my iso it can't be that big

Townlean

Porscha - a bunch of people have been saying you're obvious town but I don't know why ergo townlean

Scum/scumlean

Wilgy - All of your play has been wagonomatics do something else

Seanzie - wtf was that push on mac (but good job keeping that other situation calm)

TSP - why was pyxxy/svs/that one other person I can't remember not a possible team? was that like a fake greencheck for funzies or like, what

[Dennis]

Did I miss someone

[Dennis]

No I didn't cool

[Dennis]

[VOTE: wilgy] aubergine

[Dennis]

I think there's a bit of a difference between me skating around and just like not showing up, but I guess I have been kinda popping in too often for it not to be considered skating

[Seanzie]

Town

Mac - just like bleeding town

SVS - I'm convinced by that one interaction with pyxxy they can't be w/w

Kate - hi mom

Zenon - I think I said this like 4 times go look at my iso it can't be that big

Townlean

Porscha - a bunch of people have been saying you're obvious town but I don't know why ergo townlean

Scum/scumlean

Wilgy - All of your play has been wagonomatics do something else

Seanzie - wtf was that push on mac (but good job keeping that other situation calm)

TSP - why was pyxxy/svs/that one other person I can't remember not a possible team? was that like a fake greencheck for funzies or like, what

What other situation?

Also what exactly is wolfy about my push on Mac?

[Dennis]

Town

Mac - just like bleeding town

SVS - I'm convinced by that one interaction with pyxxy they can't be w/w

Kate - hi mom

Zenon - I think I said this like 4 times go look at my iso it can't be that big

Townlean

Porscha - a bunch of people have been saying you're obvious town but I don't know why ergo townlean

Scum/scumlean

Wilgy - All of your play has been wagonomatics do something else

Seanzie - wtf was that push on mac (but good job keeping that other situation calm)

TSP - why was pyxxy/svs/that one other person I can't remember not a possible team? was that like a fake greencheck for funzies or like, what

What other situation?

Also what exactly is wolfy about my push on Mac?

The one where mac said some mean things and all that and you didn't like blow up at him

I don't think you actually had any reason to scumread him before, and you only scumread him for that argument. Which felt like you were grabbing at something to scumread

[Seanzie]

Town

Mac - just like bleeding town

SVS - I'm convinced by that one interaction with pyxxy they can't be w/w

Kate - hi mom

Zenon - I think I said this like 4 times go look at my iso it can't be that big

Townlean

Porscha - a bunch of people have been saying you're obvious town but I don't know why ergo townlean

Scum/scumlean

Wilgy - All of your play has been wagonomatics do something else

Seanzie - wtf was that push on mac (but good job keeping that other situation calm)

TSP - why was pyxxy/svs/that one other person I can't remember not a possible team? was that like a fake greencheck for funzies or like, what

What other situation?

Also what exactly is wolfy about my push on Mac?

The one where mac said some mean things and all that and you didn't like blow up at him

I don't think you actually had any reason to scumread him before, and you only scumread him for that argument. Which felt like you were grabbing at something to scumread

Can you tell me Mac's SVS take?

[Dennis]

Town

Mac - just like bleeding town

SVS - I'm convinced by that one interaction with pyxxy they can't be w/w

Kate - hi mom

Zenon - I think I said this like 4 times go look at my iso it can't be that big

Townlean

Porscha - a bunch of people have been saying you're obvious town but I don't know why ergo townlean

Scum/scumlean

Wilgy - All of your play has been wagonomatics do something else

Seanzie - wtf was that push on mac (but good job keeping that other situation calm)

TSP - why was pyxxy/svs/that one other person I can't remember not a possible team? was that like a fake greencheck for funzies or like, what

What other situation?

Also what exactly is wolfy about my push on Mac?

The one where mac said some mean things and all that and you didn't like blow up at him

I don't think you actually had any reason to scumread him before, and you only scumread him for that argument. Which felt like you were grabbing at something to scumread

Can you tell me Mac's SVS take?

He townreads her, I think

[Seanzie]

Town

Mac - just like bleeding town

SVS - I'm convinced by that one interaction with pyxxy they can't be w/w

Kate - hi mom

Zenon - I think I said this like 4 times go look at my iso it can't be that big

Townlean

Porscha - a bunch of people have been saying you're obvious town but I don't know why ergo townlean

Scum/scumlean

Wilgy - All of your play has been wagonomatics do something else

Seanzie - wtf was that push on mac (but good job keeping that other situation calm)

TSP - why was pyxxy/svs/that one other person I can't remember not a possible team? was that like a fake greencheck for funzies or like, what

What other situation?

Also what exactly is wolfy about my push on Mac?

The one where mac said some mean things and all that and you didn't like blow up at him

I don't think you actually had any reason to scumread him before, and you only scumread him for that argument. Which felt like you were grabbing at something to scumread

Can you tell me Mac's SVS take?

He townreads her, I think

And his progression?

[Dennis]

Town

Mac - just like bleeding town

SVS - I'm convinced by that one interaction with pyxxy they can't be w/w

Kate - hi mom

Zenon - I think I said this like 4 times go look at my iso it can't be that big

Townlean

Porscha - a bunch of people have been saying you're obvious town but I don't know why ergo townlean

Scum/scumlean

Wilgy - All of your play has been wagonomatics do something else

Seanzie - wtf was that push on mac (but good job keeping that other situation calm)

TSP - why was pyxxy/svs/that one other person I can't remember not a possible team? was that like a fake greencheck for funzies or like, what

What other situation?

Also what exactly is wolfy about my push on Mac?

The one where mac said some mean things and all that and you didn't like blow up at him

I don't think you actually had any reason to scumread him before, and you only scumread him for that argument. Which felt like you were grabbing at something to scumread

Can you tell me Mac's SVS take?

He townreads her, I think

And his progression?

Nope that's where ya lose me

I dunno why you're giving me an exam, or why it matters about SVS

I was talking about the one with the postclearing nonsense

[TonyStarkPrime]

Town

Mac - just like bleeding town

SVS - I'm convinced by that one interaction with pyxxy they can't be w/w

Kate - hi mom

Zenon - I think I said this like 4 times go look at my iso it can't be that big

Townlean

Porscha - a bunch of people have been saying you're obvious town but I don't know why ergo townlean

Scum/scumlean

Wilgy - All of your play has been wagonomatics do something else

Seanzie - wtf was that push on mac (but good job keeping that other situation calm)

TSP - why was pyxxy/svs/that one other person I can't remember not a possible team? was that like a fake greencheck for funzies or like, what

Wtf

[Dennis]

Town

Mac - just like bleeding town

SVS - I'm convinced by that one interaction with pyxxy they can't be w/w

Kate - hi mom

Zenon - I think I said this like 4 times go look at my iso it can't be that big

Townlean

Porscha - a bunch of people have been saying you're obvious town but I don't know why ergo townlean

Scum/scumlean

Wilgy - All of your play has been wagonomatics do something else

Seanzie - wtf was that push on mac (but good job keeping that other situation calm)

TSP - why was pyxxy/svs/that one other person I can't remember not a possible team? was that like a fake greencheck for funzies or like, what

Wtf

I know right I forgot to put dennis on it

[TonyStarkPrime]

Why is that team, of which one of the members is in my town category and the other I CANNOT REMEMVER (I think it was porscha) not a possible team

[Dennis]

Why is that team, of which one of the members is in my town category and the other I CANNOT REMEMVER (I think it was porscha) not a possible team

because pyxxy was on it and pyxxy flipped wolf

[TonyStarkPrime]

He wised up

So is SVS wolf or town in this defense of yours?

I think I also have wised up, but we had this discussion yesterday

[TonyStarkPrime]

Why is that team, of which one of the members is in my town category and the other I CANNOT REMEMVER (I think it was porscha) not a possible team

because pyxxy was on it and pyxxy flipped wolf

Wrong! That’s the only reason it’s not not a possible team! Try another guess!

[Dennis]

Why is that team, of which one of the members is in my town category and the other I CANNOT REMEMVER (I think it was porscha) not a possible team

because pyxxy was on it and pyxxy flipped wolf

Wrong! That’s the only reason it’s not not a possible team! Try another guess!

OH! Um is it because it didn't have yourself on it, and that means the team is tutuu and the mod whose name I can't remember???

[Seanzie]

Town

Mac - just like bleeding town

SVS - I'm convinced by that one interaction with pyxxy they can't be w/w

Kate - hi mom

Zenon - I think I said this like 4 times go look at my iso it can't be that big

Townlean

Porscha - a bunch of people have been saying you're obvious town but I don't know why ergo townlean

Scum/scumlean

Wilgy - All of your play has been wagonomatics do something else

Seanzie - wtf was that push on mac (but good job keeping that other situation calm)

TSP - why was pyxxy/svs/that one other person I can't remember not a possible team? was that like a fake greencheck for funzies or like, what

What other situation?

Also what exactly is wolfy about my push on Mac?

The one where mac said some mean things and all that and you didn't like blow up at him

I don't think you actually had any reason to scumread him before, and you only scumread him for that argument. Which felt like you were grabbing at something to scumread

Can you tell me Mac's SVS take?

He townreads her, I think

And his progression?

Nope that's where ya lose me

I dunno why you're giving me an exam, or why it matters about SVS

I was talking about the one with the postclearing nonsense

I'm not trying to give you an exam, I'm trying to lead you to what I see.

The postclearing nonsense is exactly that - nonsense IMO.

[Seanzie]

He wised up

So is SVS wolf or town in this defense of yours?

I think I also have wised up, but we had this discussion yesterday

You are going out of your way to not give concrete takes. That is anti-town. If you want to work with me, then meet me in the middle, please.

[Seanzie]

Why are people letting people play so anti-town?

[Dennis]

What other situation?

Also what exactly is wolfy about my push on Mac?

The one where mac said some mean things and all that and you didn't like blow up at him

I don't think you actually had any reason to scumread him before, and you only scumread him for that argument. Which felt like you were grabbing at something to scumread

Can you tell me Mac's SVS take?

He townreads her, I think

And his progression?

Nope that's where ya lose me

I dunno why you're giving me an exam, or why it matters about SVS

I was talking about the one with the postclearing nonsense

I'm not trying to give you an exam, I'm trying to lead you to what I see.

The postclearing nonsense is exactly that - nonsense IMO.

Oh I thought you were trying to prove I'm not paying attention (i do not remember his progression, but I get the feeling you're trying to tell me it's bad and I will go look)

Yeah, but then you went on to say you were top poster which supports it and didn't seem to take it back

I get you might've thought it was an invalid point, but I don't see why that directly leads to scumreading

[Seanzie]

TSP should have been elimed like 4 days ago. Even before Pyxxy honestly.

[TonyStarkPrime]

He wised up

So is SVS wolf or town in this defense of yours?

I think I also have wised up, but we had this discussion yesterday

You are going out of your way to not give concrete takes. That is anti-town. If you want to work with me, then meet me in the middle, please.

I DO NOT BELIEVE IN CONCRETE TAKES

[TonyStarkPrime]

BUT YESTERDAY WHEN YOU ASKED PRETTY PLEASE I SAID “I THINK SVS IS TOWN”

[TonyStarkPrime]

I STILL THINK THIS

[TonyStarkPrime]

THE MAIN REASON IS BECAUSE I UAVE TO DEAL WITH KATE WHO IS TAKING GAME STRATEGY OF “DONT INTERACT AND GET TOWNCLEARED BY DENNIS AND SVS”

[TonyStarkPrime]

TSP should have been elimed like 4 days ago. Even before Pyxxy honestly.

You have played with me before how can you possibly think this

[TonyStarkPrime]

Like Mac correctly noting I lean this way more as town when I think the situation is helpless and that felt out of place yesterday is one thing but like “aha for some reason I am going to pretend TSP isn’t being clear about his view of the game state is another”

[Dennis]

Seanzie I'm sorry I can't do it I'm not forcing myself through the personal hell that is mac's iso

[Seanzie]

The one where mac said some mean things and all that and you didn't like blow up at him

I don't think you actually had any reason to scumread him before, and you only scumread him for that argument. Which felt like you were grabbing at something to scumread

Can you tell me Mac's SVS take?

He townreads her, I think

And his progression?

Nope that's where ya lose me

I dunno why you're giving me an exam, or why it matters about SVS

I was talking about the one with the postclearing nonsense

I'm not trying to give you an exam, I'm trying to lead you to what I see.

The postclearing nonsense is exactly that - nonsense IMO.

Oh I thought you were trying to prove I'm not paying attention (i do not remember his progression, but I get the feeling you're trying to tell me it's bad and I will go look)

Yeah, but then you went on to say you were top poster which supports it and didn't seem to take it back

I get you might've thought it was an invalid point, but I don't see why that directly leads to scumreading

It doesn't, with the exception that if Mac's take were to be real, it would be something like "thread activity is townie, and postcount is a vague measure of threadactvity, therefore Seanzie is townie", because "postcount" is not actually townie on it's own, it is just a measure that tends to correlate with other measures of townieness, and I don't think Mac is actually looking at me in a nuanced enough way to see this.

[TonyStarkPrime]

If Kate is going to treat SVS this way and then submit largely no other attempts to solve besides just calling Neon a wolf then I’m not going to bother dealing with SVS

[TonyStarkPrime]

Can you tell me Mac's SVS take?

He townreads her, I think

And his progression?

Nope that's where ya lose me

I dunno why you're giving me an exam, or why it matters about SVS

I was talking about the one with the postclearing nonsense

I'm not trying to give you an exam, I'm trying to lead you to what I see.

The postclearing nonsense is exactly that - nonsense IMO.

Oh I thought you were trying to prove I'm not paying attention (i do not remember his progression, but I get the feeling you're trying to tell me it's bad and I will go look)

Yeah, but then you went on to say you were top poster which supports it and didn't seem to take it back

I get you might've thought it was an invalid point, but I don't see why that directly leads to scumreading

It doesn't, with the exception that if Mac's take were to be real, it would be something like "thread activity is townie, and postcount is a vague measure of threadactvity, therefore Seanzie is townie", because "postcount" is not actually townie on it's own, it is just a measure that tends to correlate with other measures of townieness, and I don't think Mac is actually looking at me in a nuanced enough way to see this.

This isn’t Mac’s take, Mac’s take in that moment is a completely different thing

[Dennis]

Can you tell me Mac's SVS take?

He townreads her, I think

And his progression?

Nope that's where ya lose me

I dunno why you're giving me an exam, or why it matters about SVS

I was talking about the one with the postclearing nonsense

I'm not trying to give you an exam, I'm trying to lead you to what I see.

The postclearing nonsense is exactly that - nonsense IMO.

Oh I thought you were trying to prove I'm not paying attention (i do not remember his progression, but I get the feeling you're trying to tell me it's bad and I will go look)

Yeah, but then you went on to say you were top poster which supports it and didn't seem to take it back

I get you might've thought it was an invalid point, but I don't see why that directly leads to scumreading

It doesn't, with the exception that if Mac's take were to be real, it would be something like "thread activity is townie, and postcount is a vague measure of threadactvity, therefore Seanzie is townie", because "postcount" is not actually townie on it's own, it is just a measure that tends to correlate with other measures of townieness, and I don't think Mac is actually looking at me in a nuanced enough way to see this.

townie townie townie townie towngetout of my head

What about the meta read Mac built into it, and this kind of ignores like everything else Mac has said and as such kinda reads as omgus

[Seanzie]

TSP should have been elimed like 4 days ago. Even before Pyxxy honestly.

You have played with me before how can you possibly think this

You cannot expect me to townread you when you make it deliberately hard to work with you and instead solely rely on things like juxtapositions from your high-posting wolf games, which can easily be juxtaposed.

[TonyStarkPrime]

One potential read is “Mac is struggling to hold a coherent worldview for more than 10 seconds and ergo must be mafia” which doesn’t work here because there are a lot of very easy coherent worldviews he could take as a wolf and I don’t see why he’d avoid them in that case

[Seanzie]

He townreads her, I think

And his progression?

Nope that's where ya lose me

I dunno why you're giving me an exam, or why it matters about SVS

I was talking about the one with the postclearing nonsense

I'm not trying to give you an exam, I'm trying to lead you to what I see.

The postclearing nonsense is exactly that - nonsense IMO.

Oh I thought you were trying to prove I'm not paying attention (i do not remember his progression, but I get the feeling you're trying to tell me it's bad and I will go look)

Yeah, but then you went on to say you were top poster which supports it and didn't seem to take it back

I get you might've thought it was an invalid point, but I don't see why that directly leads to scumreading

It doesn't, with the exception that if Mac's take were to be real, it would be something like "thread activity is townie, and postcount is a vague measure of threadactvity, therefore Seanzie is townie", because "postcount" is not actually townie on it's own, it is just a measure that tends to correlate with other measures of townieness, and I don't think Mac is actually looking at me in a nuanced enough way to see this.

This isn’t Mac’s take, Mac’s take in that moment is a completely different thing

Then explain, please.

[TonyStarkPrime]

TSP should have been elimed like 4 days ago. Even before Pyxxy honestly.

You have played with me before how can you possibly think this

You cannot expect me to townread you when you make it deliberately hard to work with you and instead solely rely on things like juxtapositions from your high-posting wolf games, which can easily be juxtaposed.

I’m not the one shielding your pet suspect

[TonyStarkPrime]

Ok I need an honest answer: does Neon have it inside of themselves to pull the ATE nonsense they were doing earlier today as a wolf?

[Seanzie]

TSP should have been elimed like 4 days ago. Even before Pyxxy honestly.

You have played with me before how can you possibly think this

You cannot expect me to townread you when you make it deliberately hard to work with you and instead solely rely on things like juxtapositions from your high-posting wolf games, which can easily be juxtaposed.

I’m not the one shielding your pet suspect

Who even the heck do you think my pet suspect is? I don't even know who I suspect. Talk plainly.

Do you write proofs like this? I hope not.

[TonyStarkPrime]

Tbh Sean I feel like overall I’m being approximately more helpful than half the cast of this game

[Seanzie]

Ok I need an honest answer: does Neon have it inside of themselves to pull the ATE nonsense they were doing earlier today as a wolf?

Probably, but idk. I didn't see Neon AtE.

[Seanzie]

Tbh Sean I feel like overall I’m being approximately more helpful than half the cast of this game

And you're being approximately half as helpful as I believe you could be if you cared to.