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[Animal Midwife]

What are you even talking about?

You never responded to this post @Dennis.

So I did not

I dunno wtf I said either, but I also am struggling to understand what you asked me

I was asking why you thought the lowposters were definitely a bad place to go when you had no wolfreads yourself? (Though you've since shared a wolfread that is another lowposter.) And also wondering what the vague "healthy suspicions" were being that none were referenced in your post.

I've always been against killing low posters I don't really know why. Maybe I shouldn't be so stingy or whatever with killing them but a lot of people I know are lowposters and they are very outspoken against killing lowposters

It just kinda feels like a shrug vote to me given the "healthy suspicions", which I meant like arguments between zenge and falcon, sloonei doing that peacekeeper thing, miranda, scotty, so on and so forth

Just the argument "he's not doing enough" is too shruggy for me with like 17 more people to look at today

You chose to vote a lowposter and have not pursued any of the above mentioned healthy suspicions? Why?

They are not all my healthy suspicions

Then why did you say they're a good place to consider voting?

[pyxxy]

lord knows I'm leaving a 3 wagon for a 1 against two 7s

I pretty much agree with Sloonei's interpretation of Scotty, both the "his responses to his wagon seem townie" and "I'm fine flipping him though"

I don't agree with still voting Scotty, though. Not with so much time left. I can understand if Sloonei doesn't have any other leads/reads.

[pyxxy]

i dont see defensiveness in sporty's posts

wouldnt vote there today

@SportPonies do you accept dy's pocketing of you or are you two scum pals?

I was going to comment on my concern there lol

let's run it?

[NateTheLesser]

I regret my wording tbh oof

I'm gonna townlean you for this, don't make me regret it 👍

This is more pockety than what dya said :biggrin:

im still not over that

dya hears reason sporty is being pushed, reads entire iso, doesn't agree with the call it was defensive, therefore doesnt understand the push

pyxxy: dya is pocketing sporty

I didn't think your read was stated in such a way that it was intended to make Sporty feel good about you, no. Just seemed like a read.

[SportPonies]

i dont see defensiveness in sporty's posts

wouldnt vote there today

@SportPonies do you accept dy's pocketing of you or are you two scum pals?

man my definition of pocketing is WAY different than reading someone's iso and not seeing the thing being touted as a reason to vote them

Who told you besides Sporty that her defensiveness was why she was being scumread?

I saw you ask in the thread and waited but I don't remember people responding to you.

What's more the voters are just me Seanzie and Miranda. Miranda made her case pretty clear. Seanzie is gone atm. I'm active but you didn't tag me or anything (not a crime ofc), but my initial case on Sporty was about a gut feeling. I specifically said it wasn't about tone when she and I talked about it (or at least that's how I remember it).

Your clearing of Sporty seems too confident given its development.

Sorry if this is just me being unfamiliar with you and your playstyle *nods in acceptance* but I find you sus.

[VOTE: dyachei] aubergine

I don’t disagree with this, especially since I’m usually a “I can’t read Sporty” for people

[Marmot]

@Dennis if I were to give you my vote, where would you put it?

[SportPonies]

i dont see defensiveness in sporty's posts

wouldnt vote there today

@SportPonies do you accept dy's pocketing of you or are you two scum pals?

I was going to comment on my concern there lol

let's run it?

Aren’t you wolf reading me?

[dyachei]

i dont see defensiveness in sporty's posts

wouldnt vote there today

@SportPonies do you accept dy's pocketing of you or are you two scum pals?

man my definition of pocketing is WAY different than reading someone's iso and not seeing the thing being touted as a reason to vote them

Who told you besides Sporty that her defensiveness was why she was being scumread?

I saw you ask in the thread and waited but I don't remember people responding to you.

What's more the voters are just me Seanzie and Miranda. Miranda made her case pretty clear. Seanzie is gone atm. I'm active but you didn't tag me or anything (not a crime ofc), but my initial case on Sporty was about a gut feeling. I specifically said it wasn't about tone when she and I talked about it (or at least that's how I remember it).

Your clearing of Sporty seems too confident given its development.

Sorry if this is just me being unfamiliar with you and your playstyle *nods in acceptance* but I find you sus.

[VOTE: dyachei] aubergine

I don’t disagree with this, especially since I’m usually a “I can’t read Sporty” for people

there's a difference between "i don't want to push here today" and "I feel strongly sporty is a villager" though and i feel like you guys are acting like they're the same fucking thing

[pyxxy]

I don't know how I feel about AM pressing on Dennis on that one particular point though, can anyone tell me if this is AI for AM?

Personally I like it for AM.

I think Seanzie (could be wrong) asked AM if AM focused on cases or tunneled or something like that. I think AM said roughly "nah/not any more than anyone else". But I think it was Seanzie finding another Seanzie-esque player. I townlean Seanzie atm, so I townlean AM by the transitive property of mafia math.

This definitely didn't happen.

@Animal Midwife this exchange:

Is AM the type that can be pointed at a specific target with reasonable effect?

I’m not sure I understand the question. Can you rephrase?

AM seems to be known for their intensity. Do they tend to focus on specific people and push there?

No, I don’t think I’d say that’s something that AM “tends” to do any more or any less than anyone else.

What does AM tend to do then? Can you give me a TLDR on them?

She analyzes the posts players make, and the gamestate as a whole, decides who she thinks is the wolfiest and votes there.

This sounds like a very passive approach and does not match what I've heard others say about them.

It's how I interpreted this. Just me and my opinion.

[Dennis]

You never responded to this post @Dennis.

So I did not

I dunno wtf I said either, but I also am struggling to understand what you asked me

I was asking why you thought the lowposters were definitely a bad place to go when you had no wolfreads yourself? (Though you've since shared a wolfread that is another lowposter.) And also wondering what the vague "healthy suspicions" were being that none were referenced in your post.

I've always been against killing low posters I don't really know why. Maybe I shouldn't be so stingy or whatever with killing them but a lot of people I know are lowposters and they are very outspoken against killing lowposters

It just kinda feels like a shrug vote to me given the "healthy suspicions", which I meant like arguments between zenge and falcon, sloonei doing that peacekeeper thing, miranda, scotty, so on and so forth

Just the argument "he's not doing enough" is too shruggy for me with like 17 more people to look at today

You chose to vote a lowposter and have not pursued any of the above mentioned healthy suspicions? Why?

They are not all my healthy suspicions

Then why did you say they're a good place to consider voting?

Cause it might be. I was suggesting looking into those suspicions, if you don't like it then sure kill creature whatever. But just because I didn't come up with them or am following them doesn't mean they are bad

[SportPonies]

i dont see defensiveness in sporty's posts

wouldnt vote there today

@SportPonies do you accept dy's pocketing of you or are you two scum pals?

man my definition of pocketing is WAY different than reading someone's iso and not seeing the thing being touted as a reason to vote them

Who told you besides Sporty that her defensiveness was why she was being scumread?

I saw you ask in the thread and waited but I don't remember people responding to you.

What's more the voters are just me Seanzie and Miranda. Miranda made her case pretty clear. Seanzie is gone atm. I'm active but you didn't tag me or anything (not a crime ofc), but my initial case on Sporty was about a gut feeling. I specifically said it wasn't about tone when she and I talked about it (or at least that's how I remember it).

Your clearing of Sporty seems too confident given its development.

Sorry if this is just me being unfamiliar with you and your playstyle *nods in acceptance* but I find you sus.

[VOTE: dyachei] aubergine

I don’t disagree with this, especially since I’m usually a “I can’t read Sporty” for people

there's a difference between "i don't want to push here today" and "I feel strongly sporty is a villager" though and i feel like you guys are acting like they're the same fucking thing

I’m not the one pushing you

[dyachei]

i dont see defensiveness in sporty's posts

wouldnt vote there today

@SportPonies do you accept dy's pocketing of you or are you two scum pals?

man my definition of pocketing is WAY different than reading someone's iso and not seeing the thing being touted as a reason to vote them

Who told you besides Sporty that her defensiveness was why she was being scumread?

I saw you ask in the thread and waited but I don't remember people responding to you.

What's more the voters are just me Seanzie and Miranda. Miranda made her case pretty clear. Seanzie is gone atm. I'm active but you didn't tag me or anything (not a crime ofc), but my initial case on Sporty was about a gut feeling. I specifically said it wasn't about tone when she and I talked about it (or at least that's how I remember it).

Your clearing of Sporty seems too confident given its development.

Sorry if this is just me being unfamiliar with you and your playstyle *nods in acceptance* but I find you sus.

[VOTE: dyachei] aubergine

I don’t disagree with this, especially since I’m usually a “I can’t read Sporty” for people

there's a difference between "i don't want to push here today" and "I feel strongly sporty is a villager" though and i feel like you guys are acting like they're the same fucking thing

I’m not the one pushing you

you're shading me for the same thing!

which is probably worse

[Marmot]

I think pyxxy's attention to detail in that post about SP/dya is rand!v. It looks to me like he believes what he's saying wert dya.

[Creature]

Oh man

[Creature]

Goddamn I can't even have a day off

[dyachei]

btw, you finally said something defensive. congrats!

[pyxxy]

i dont see defensiveness in sporty's posts

wouldnt vote there today

@SportPonies do you accept dy's pocketing of you or are you two scum pals?

I was going to comment on my concern there lol

let's run it?

Aren’t you wolf reading me?

You're someone that I would vote for, yes but thanks to dy, you're quickly leaving that zone )) don't get nervous I'm just watching you in minute detail to see how you act here )))))))))))))))))

[Animal Midwife]

I don't know how I feel about AM pressing on Dennis on that one particular point though, can anyone tell me if this is AI for AM?

Personally I like it for AM.

I think Seanzie (could be wrong) asked AM if AM focused on cases or tunneled or something like that. I think AM said roughly "nah/not any more than anyone else". But I think it was Seanzie finding another Seanzie-esque player. I townlean Seanzie atm, so I townlean AM by the transitive property of mafia math.

This definitely didn't happen.

@Animal Midwife this exchange:

I’m not sure I understand the question. Can you rephrase?

AM seems to be known for their intensity. Do they tend to focus on specific people and push there?

No, I don’t think I’d say that’s something that AM “tends” to do any more or any less than anyone else.

What does AM tend to do then? Can you give me a TLDR on them?

She analyzes the posts players make, and the gamestate as a whole, decides who she thinks is the wolfiest and votes there.

This sounds like a very passive approach and does not match what I've heard others say about them.

It's how I interpreted this. Just me and my opinion.

I don't understand why Zenge saying something is the same as me saying something.

[Marmot]

Oh man

Hi

[mightyrunner7]

Anyway, I'm home from work and definitely not going to get caught up in the hour remaining. So if someone has a tldr of the current lead wagons that would be awesome

Otherwise I'll probably just make a bad impulsive decision based on whoever's around right now and sets off the peter tingle

Here is my biased understanding (I'm voting Scotty):

Scotty had a moderate amount of activity, but the wolfhunt appeared to lack feeling. The reason for the vote on Dennis didn't make sense, and the outgoing message felt wolfy

Creature has been much less active that one would expect, and hasn't made any real contributions to wolfhunting

Doing an ISO on both should be helpful to you

[Creature]

I am not even sure where to start

[Creature]

Creature has been much less active that one would expect, and hasn't made any real contributions to wolfhunting

Yes, because I was busy with other things and it's hard to contribute when I am unengaged.

[Animal Midwife]

So I did not

I dunno wtf I said either, but I also am struggling to understand what you asked me

I was asking why you thought the lowposters were definitely a bad place to go when you had no wolfreads yourself? (Though you've since shared a wolfread that is another lowposter.) And also wondering what the vague "healthy suspicions" were being that none were referenced in your post.

I've always been against killing low posters I don't really know why. Maybe I shouldn't be so stingy or whatever with killing them but a lot of people I know are lowposters and they are very outspoken against killing lowposters

It just kinda feels like a shrug vote to me given the "healthy suspicions", which I meant like arguments between zenge and falcon, sloonei doing that peacekeeper thing, miranda, scotty, so on and so forth

Just the argument "he's not doing enough" is too shruggy for me with like 17 more people to look at today

You chose to vote a lowposter and have not pursued any of the above mentioned healthy suspicions? Why?

They are not all my healthy suspicions

Then why did you say they're a good place to consider voting?

Cause it might be. I was suggesting looking into those suspicions, if you don't like it then sure kill creature whatever. But just because I didn't come up with them or am following them doesn't mean they are bad

It might be? You don't even believe in them yourself. By that metric you never would have called out the voting in the first place. Also, I don't think Creature was a major wagon at the time of you saying that.

[pyxxy]

I regret my wording tbh oof

I'm gonna townlean you for this, don't make me regret it

This is more pockety than what dya said

bold of you to think that a jigglypuff would wear clothes, let alone any with pockets B)

[dyachei]

yeah i had a feeling you'd show up after 9

[Creature]

I also have yet to dine.

[SportPonies]

@SportPonies do you accept dy's pocketing of you or are you two scum pals?

man my definition of pocketing is WAY different than reading someone's iso and not seeing the thing being touted as a reason to vote them

Who told you besides Sporty that her defensiveness was why she was being scumread?

I saw you ask in the thread and waited but I don't remember people responding to you.

What's more the voters are just me Seanzie and Miranda. Miranda made her case pretty clear. Seanzie is gone atm. I'm active but you didn't tag me or anything (not a crime ofc), but my initial case on Sporty was about a gut feeling. I specifically said it wasn't about tone when she and I talked about it (or at least that's how I remember it).

Your clearing of Sporty seems too confident given its development.

Sorry if this is just me being unfamiliar with you and your playstyle *nods in acceptance* but I find you sus.

[VOTE: dyachei] aubergine

I don’t disagree with this, especially since I’m usually a “I can’t read Sporty” for people

there's a difference between "i don't want to push here today" and "I feel strongly sporty is a villager" though and i feel like you guys are acting like they're the same fucking thing

I’m not the one pushing you

you're shading me for the same thing!

which is probably worse

I’m not used to people defending me lol. It’s spooky

[Mayo the Mayo]

Stuck in the or and almost certainly not going to get caught up. Can I get a Tl;dr on the leading wagons? If there are any

[Dennis]

@Dennis if I were to give you my vote, where would you put it?

I really don't know because of the top wagon's reactions to being the top wagon was kinda bad

I expect scotty to fight way more than he did

I don't know what to expect from creature but that wasn't it

Between those two, though. I'm gonna iso them both and see the feels (tm)

[Creature]

yeah i had a feeling you'd show up after 9

Good mourning

[SportPonies]

Stuck in the or and almost certainly not going to get caught up. Can I get a Tl;dr on the leading wagons? If there are any

Scroll up a few posts

[Marmot]

Anyway, I'm home from work and definitely not going to get caught up in the hour remaining. So if someone has a tldr of the current lead wagons that would be awesome

Otherwise I'll probably just make a bad impulsive decision based on whoever's around right now and sets off the peter tingle

Here is my biased understanding (I'm voting Scotty):

Scotty had a moderate amount of activity, but the wolfhunt appeared to lack feeling. The reason for the vote on Dennis didn't make sense, and the outgoing message felt wolfy

Creature has been much less active that one would expect, and hasn't made any real contributions to wolfhunting

Doing an ISO on both should be helpful to you

@Mayo the Mayo mightyrunner just made a good one

[JaggedJimmyJay]

With one hour to go (55 minutes), the post cap for Day 1 is lifted.

[potentialsheltervet]

I regret my wording tbh oof

I'm gonna townlean you for this, don't make me regret it

God please town lean me for literally anything else

[Creature]

With one hour to go (55 minutes), the post cap for Day 1 is lifted.

Oh good

Although I wasn't any close to hitting it anyway

[Marmot]

I'm probably going to move my vote off of Creature because it seems his lack of activity and commitment is out of his control atm.

I wish there was a wagon other than Scotty to offer more choices. Scotty is a fine choice given his contributions thus far, but I'm slightly put off by the fact that he has technically made townie posts. If anyone wants to give me a name to ISO, I will.

[potentialsheltervet]

Also I'm not ready for the closed nights. Infringing on my right to free speech as an AMERICAN on AMERICAN GROUND

Oh see, it’s posts like this where I’m like “who are you” lol

i mean it makes sense when you consider state of origin

Rootin', tootin', and boot-scootin', that's PSV alrite

Yeehaw

[pyxxy]

I regret my wording tbh oof

I'm gonna townlean you for this, don't make me regret it

This is more pockety than what dya said

im still not over that

dya hears reason sporty is being pushed, reads entire iso, doesn't agree with the call it was defensive, therefore doesnt understand the push

pyxxy: dya is pocketing sporty

I'm posting as I scroll so apologies if this isn't your most updated post/opinion.

My focus is on why you decided that Sporty was being sussed for being defensive.

And how quickly you decided that, given that was the argument, you could dismiss it and townread Sporty, who was facing a little pressure at 3 votes and is/was the third wagon behind the two 7s.

Sporty would naturally be grateful to be found as town (if town), subconsciously or not, especially by someone who is returning to the thread and plausibly could vote for her.

This seems like pocketing, TMI, buddying up to a townie. Whatever you want to call it, that's how I feel about it.

Again, sorry if I'm just unfamiliar with you. I can be wrong just how I see it.

[Animal Midwife]

I didn't realize the cap would lift, but that's good.

[Marmot]

I regret my wording tbh oof

I'm gonna townlean you for this, don't make me regret it

This is more pockety than what dya said

im still not over that

dya hears reason sporty is being pushed, reads entire iso, doesn't agree with the call it was defensive, therefore doesnt understand the push

pyxxy: dya is pocketing sporty

I'm posting as I scroll so apologies if this isn't your most updated post/opinion.

My focus is on why you decided that Sporty was being sussed for being defensive.

And how quickly you decided that, given that was the argument, you could dismiss it and townread Sporty, who was facing a little pressure at 3 votes and is/was the third wagon behind the two 7s.

Sporty would naturally be grateful to be found as town (if town), subconsciously or not, especially by someone who is returning to the thread and plausibly could vote for her.

This seems like pocketing, TMI, buddying up to a townie. Whatever you want to call it, that's how I feel about it.

Again, sorry if I'm just unfamiliar with you. I can be wrong just how I see it.

Why can't this be a thing that a townie does?

[dyachei]

I regret my wording tbh oof

I'm gonna townlean you for this, don't make me regret it

This is more pockety than what dya said

im still not over that

dya hears reason sporty is being pushed, reads entire iso, doesn't agree with the call it was defensive, therefore doesnt understand the push

pyxxy: dya is pocketing sporty

I'm posting as I scroll so apologies if this isn't your most updated post/opinion.

My focus is on why you decided that Sporty was being sussed for being defensive.

And how quickly you decided that, given that was the argument, you could dismiss it and townread Sporty, who was facing a little pressure at 3 votes and is/was the third wagon behind the two 7s.

Sporty would naturally be grateful to be found as town (if town), subconsciously or not, especially by someone who is returning to the thread and plausibly could vote for her.

This seems like pocketing, TMI, buddying up to a townie. Whatever you want to call it, that's how I feel about it.

Again, sorry if I'm just unfamiliar with you. I can be wrong just how I see it.

It. Came. Up. In. The. Iso. I. Was. Reading. At. The. Time.

not just from sporty

[Creature]

I'm probably going to move my vote off of Creature because it seems his lack of activity and commitment is out of his control atm.

I wish there was a wagon other than Scotty to offer more choices. Scotty is a fine choice given his contributions thus far, but I'm slightly put off by the fact that he has technically made townie posts. If anyone wants to give me a name to ISO, I will.

I could maybe help you push it if that doesn't get me mislynched.

[Marmot]

I didn't realize the cap would lift, but that's good.

Your cap was actually lowered.

[pyxxy]

i mean, yeah it was sporty that said it (though it did come up in miranda's Iso), but my not pushing sporty isn't only because i dont find her defensive so i feel like you're making quite a stretch here

I mean, you also liked her read on PSV, don't forget that

i remember why i like sporty earlier - it was the psv read and tell thing

[dyachei]

Okay, I’m having trouble getting quotes to work and I’m currently sitting in an airport terminal.

But a take away I had from my reading was the interaction between Zenge and Sporty in regards to me

We’ve established I’m pretty new to WW, but I don’t think there is anyone who has reliably tone read me across games.

I’m going this way because of the reaction Sporty had to Zenge questioning her, which did come off quite defensive.

[VOTE: SportPonies] aubergine

Also do think it’s strange we haven’t heard much from Santy

see this post

[Animal Midwife]

@pyxxy Why are you voting none of the people you said were your top wolf reads?

[dyachei]

i mean, yeah it was sporty that said it (though it did come up in miranda's Iso), but my not pushing sporty isn't only because i dont find her defensive so i feel like you're making quite a stretch here

I mean, you also liked her read on PSV, don't forget that

i remember why i like sporty earlier - it was the psv read and tell thing

that's ALSO not a pocket, it was me explaining a read from earlier

[Marmot]

I'm probably going to move my vote off of Creature because it seems his lack of activity and commitment is out of his control atm.

I wish there was a wagon other than Scotty to offer more choices. Scotty is a fine choice given his contributions thus far, but I'm slightly put off by the fact that he has technically made townie posts. If anyone wants to give me a name to ISO, I will.

I could maybe help you push it if that doesn't get me mislynched.

I might have more posts than you, but I just got here like 40 minutes ago, so I'm also playing a little blind and uncaught-up atm.

[Animal Midwife]

I didn't realize the cap would lift, but that's good.

Your cap was actually lowered.

Huh?

[pyxxy]

I regret my wording tbh oof

I'm gonna townlean you for this, don't make me regret it

This is more pockety than what dya said

im still not over that

dya hears reason sporty is being pushed, reads entire iso, doesn't agree with the call it was defensive, therefore doesnt understand the push

pyxxy: dya is pocketing sporty

I didn't think your read was stated in such a way that it was intended to make Sporty feel good about you, no. Just seemed like a read.

Have you played often with Dy/Dya and do you feel like you are good at reading them?

Aka: Am I completely in the wrong here? Have you already found dya as town?