[END] Literal WWerecreatures Invade Syndicate Zoo: An SDN Crossover Game
- potentialsheltervet
- Drug Dealer
- Posts in topic: 299
- Posts: 1051
- Joined: Thu Mar 30, 2023 3:34 pm
- Gender: Female
- Preferred Pronouns: She/hers
Re: [DAY 2] Literal WWerecreatures Invade Syndicate Zoo: An SDN Crossover Game
Okay, fine
[VOTE: creature ] aubergine
[VOTE: creature ] aubergine
- Zenge
- Stool Pigeon
- Posts in topic: 213
- Posts: 217
- Joined: Sat Apr 01, 2023 8:58 pm
- Gender: Male
- Preferred Pronouns: He/him/his/himself
Re: [DAY 2] Literal WWerecreatures Invade Syndicate Zoo: An SDN Crossover Game
No I don’t think you’re a Falcon wolf partner. Despite your pushback.santygrass wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 1:08 pmIt is a rethorical question.Zenge wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 1:03 pmWhere did I say this?santygrass wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 1:00 pm I am a Falcon Partner now for suggesting having mech pointing at them being villa?
I am expecting to have something else from you and doing questions here
The way you’ve gone about it is more villagey. Unlike some people who’s push back has been very scummy.
In conclusion, Carthage Falcon45ca must be destroyed.
- Zenge
- Stool Pigeon
- Posts in topic: 213
- Posts: 217
- Joined: Sat Apr 01, 2023 8:58 pm
- Gender: Male
- Preferred Pronouns: He/him/his/himself
Re: [DAY 2] Literal WWerecreatures Invade Syndicate Zoo: An SDN Crossover Game
You know Falcons are creatures. Just saying.
In conclusion, Carthage Falcon45ca must be destroyed.
- santygrass
- Loan Shark
- Posts in topic: 473
- Posts: 2429
- Joined: Sat Aug 27, 2022 12:51 pm
- Location: Argentina
- Gender: Masculine
- Preferred Pronouns: Any
- Aka: Santy
Re: [DAY 2] Literal WWerecreatures Invade Syndicate Zoo: An SDN Crossover Game
Do it now. No need to get super deep. Surface level thought on who would still be a wolf , can be unrelated to Falcon.
And giving your input on the what-ifs doesnt mean you need to stop thinking about W!Falcon world
Spoiler: show
- potentialsheltervet
- Drug Dealer
- Posts in topic: 299
- Posts: 1051
- Joined: Thu Mar 30, 2023 3:34 pm
- Gender: Female
- Preferred Pronouns: She/hers
Re: [DAY 2] Literal WWerecreatures Invade Syndicate Zoo: An SDN Crossover Game
Re: [DAY 2] Literal WWerecreatures Invade Syndicate Zoo: An SDN Crossover Game
last post for this day phase, good luck guys and girls and everything in between
seanzie
mac
lawpy
zenge
neon
dennis
svs
falcon
santy
SARhandler - (riding on psv mafia. if psv not mafia, im dropping the townread)
sloonei
nate - purely sheeping
miranda - extremely miniscule gut townread, its very weak
migthyrunner
mayo - either wolf or exactly town vig; (not w/w with genny)
genny (not w/w with mayo)
creature
marmot - purely sheeping
psv
seanzie
mac
lawpy
zenge
neon
dennis
svs
falcon
santy
SARhandler - (riding on psv mafia. if psv not mafia, im dropping the townread)
sloonei
nate - purely sheeping
miranda - extremely miniscule gut townread, its very weak
migthyrunner
mayo - either wolf or exactly town vig; (not w/w with genny)
genny (not w/w with mayo)
creature
marmot - purely sheeping
psv
- santygrass
- Loan Shark
- Posts in topic: 473
- Posts: 2429
- Joined: Sat Aug 27, 2022 12:51 pm
- Location: Argentina
- Gender: Masculine
- Preferred Pronouns: Any
- Aka: Santy
Re: [DAY 2] Literal WWerecreatures Invade Syndicate Zoo: An SDN Crossover Game
You being stuck on falcon isn't giving anything new to the thread and simply put, doesnt help. Sorry if I'm being a bit harsh. But once again, I am not telling you to stop wolf-reading falcon.
But like, who else is a wolf regardless if they have equity with Falcon? Who could be taking advantage of your falcon push or Bussing falcon here?
That sort of reads I am asking of you, to put more nuance in your reads. Hyperfocusing is just bad . Village strongest weapon is reassesing.
If you only ask "falcon is a wolf? Yeah
Falcon is a wolf? Yeah " Then you are not reassesing. You are going deeper into the tunnel
But like, who else is a wolf regardless if they have equity with Falcon? Who could be taking advantage of your falcon push or Bussing falcon here?
That sort of reads I am asking of you, to put more nuance in your reads. Hyperfocusing is just bad . Village strongest weapon is reassesing.
If you only ask "falcon is a wolf? Yeah
Falcon is a wolf? Yeah " Then you are not reassesing. You are going deeper into the tunnel
Spoiler: show
Re: [DAY 2] Literal WWerecreatures Invade Syndicate Zoo: An SDN Crossover Game
oh and please dont CFD. its always bad
just compete between the two main wagons, dont make any new wagons when there's like 4 hours or less remaining of day
its really bad and thats how town loses games and loses their chops and loses their days and time and morale
just compete between the two main wagons, dont make any new wagons when there's like 4 hours or less remaining of day
its really bad and thats how town loses games and loses their chops and loses their days and time and morale
- Marmot
- Marmot
- Posts in topic: 202
- Posts: 30973
- Joined: Sat Jan 11, 2014 11:21 am
- Location: Oregon
- Gender: Genderfluid
- Preferred Pronouns: they/them
- Aka: Marmot
- Contact:
Re: [DAY 2] Literal WWerecreatures Invade Syndicate Zoo: An SDN Crossover Game
But tutuu we have 3 main wagons!!tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 1:14 pm oh and please dont CFD. its always bad
just compete between the two main wagons, dont make any new wagons when there's like 4 hours or less remaining of day
its really bad and thats how town loses games and loses their chops and loses their days and time and morale
Banners and Stuff
Spoiler: show
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 16, 2020 7:33 pm Just how many days of "let's yeet them tomorrow" can a mafioso survive?
The answer: all of them, if you are a marmot.
- Marmot
- Marmot
- Posts in topic: 202
- Posts: 30973
- Joined: Sat Jan 11, 2014 11:21 am
- Location: Oregon
- Gender: Genderfluid
- Preferred Pronouns: they/them
- Aka: Marmot
- Contact:
Re: [DAY 2] Literal WWerecreatures Invade Syndicate Zoo: An SDN Crossover Game
Critters For Days
Banners and Stuff
Spoiler: show
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 16, 2020 7:33 pm Just how many days of "let's yeet them tomorrow" can a mafioso survive?
The answer: all of them, if you are a marmot.
- Zenge
- Stool Pigeon
- Posts in topic: 213
- Posts: 217
- Joined: Sat Apr 01, 2023 8:58 pm
- Gender: Male
- Preferred Pronouns: He/him/his/himself
Re: [DAY 2] Literal WWerecreatures Invade Syndicate Zoo: An SDN Crossover Game
Give me a Village case for Falcon and I’ll consider it.santygrass wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 1:10 pmDo it now. No need to get super deep. Surface level thought on who would still be a wolf , can be unrelated to Falcon.
And giving your input on the what-ifs doesnt mean you need to stop thinking about W!Falcon world
And honest to god village case. Not some handwavy BS about how a few Syndicate players feel like he’s village. Players who by the way are notoriously bad at actually reading Flacon, by their own admission.
Not one of those people, or you, or anyone else has laid out one sold case for why this is a lock villager.
And by the way. You don’t know the affiliation of ANY of those people either. So their handwaving about “Flacon is just sketchy sometimes, just ignore him” means ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!
No one. Has given me a reason to say Falcon isn’t a wolf. This is my wolf read. I’m certain of it. I’m sticking with it.
I get that you don’t agree with it. Fine. Go do something else then. I’m not throwing away a perfectly good wolf read just because not everyone agrees.
In conclusion, Carthage Falcon45ca must be destroyed.
Re: [DAY 2] Literal WWerecreatures Invade Syndicate Zoo: An SDN Crossover Game
if genny was town i think she'd be interested in why i'm scumreading her
town generally express curiosity (not necessarily effort to convince u, but they're just curious)
i have her colored as red on this same page so no way she didnt see it
genny not being curious why im scumreading her ... doesnt necessarily make her a wolf
but if she was town its a missed opportunity for her to towntell
ergo, in *some way* its scummy
but not *really*
if that makes any sense at all
- santygrass
- Loan Shark
- Posts in topic: 473
- Posts: 2429
- Joined: Sat Aug 27, 2022 12:51 pm
- Location: Argentina
- Gender: Masculine
- Preferred Pronouns: Any
- Aka: Santy
Re: [DAY 2] Literal WWerecreatures Invade Syndicate Zoo: An SDN Crossover Game
* Spanks *Zenge wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 1:19 pmGive me a Village case for Falcon and I’ll consider it.santygrass wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 1:10 pmDo it now. No need to get super deep. Surface level thought on who would still be a wolf , can be unrelated to Falcon.
And giving your input on the what-ifs doesnt mean you need to stop thinking about W!Falcon world
And honest to god village case. Not some handwavy BS about how a few Syndicate players feel like he’s village. Players who by the way are notoriously bad at actually reading Flacon, by their own admission.
Not one of those people, or you, or anyone else has laid out one sold case for why this is a lock villager.
And by the way. You don’t know the affiliation of ANY of those people either. So their handwaving about “Flacon is just sketchy sometimes, just ignore him” means ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!
No one. Has given me a reason to say Falcon isn’t a wolf. This is my wolf read. I’m certain of it. I’m sticking with it.
I get that you don’t agree with it. Fine. Go do something else then. I’m not throwing away a perfectly good wolf read just because not everyone agrees.
I am not telling you to discard your wolfread.
Don't start with the stretchyness Zenge smh
Spoiler: show
- santygrass
- Loan Shark
- Posts in topic: 473
- Posts: 2429
- Joined: Sat Aug 27, 2022 12:51 pm
- Location: Argentina
- Gender: Masculine
- Preferred Pronouns: Any
- Aka: Santy
Re: [DAY 2] Literal WWerecreatures Invade Syndicate Zoo: An SDN Crossover Game
Like, if you can't find another wolfread that does not rely ln falcon being a wolf, then your entire view of the game should not be taken into account because it lacks a lot of nuance /shrug
Spoiler: show
- genny
- Posts in topic: 41
- Posts: 53
- Joined: Mon Mar 27, 2023 12:07 am
- Gender: female
- Preferred Pronouns: she or he
Re: [DAY 2] Literal WWerecreatures Invade Syndicate Zoo: An SDN Crossover Game
you already said i TMI'd? i figured it was that.tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 1:20 pmif genny was town i think she'd be interested in why i'm scumreading her
town generally express curiosity (not necessarily effort to convince u, but they're just curious)
i have her colored as red on this same page so no way she didnt see it
genny not being curious why im scumreading her ... doesnt necessarily make her a wolf
but if she was town its a missed opportunity for her to towntell
ergo, in *some way* its scummy
but not *really*
if that makes any sense at all
plus, you've got me with psv and mayo down there, and we're clearly not all together, so you've got some more sorting out to do. i don't grade unfinished work.
- Sloonei
- Cap'n Sloonbeard
- Posts in topic: 307
- Posts: 26594
- Joined: Fri May 15, 2015 11:05 pm
- Location: Buffalo
- Gender: Male
- Preferred Pronouns: he/his/him
Re: [DAY 2] Literal WWerecreatures Invade Syndicate Zoo: An SDN Crossover Game
I think this is the problem santy is having right now, Zenge. Wolf read. Singular. Like me before, Santy is not telling you to discard your Falcon read. Santy is asking for you to talk about other things. You have repeated to both of us that you are reading everything else in the thread. Please tell us all what you think about those Other Things.
My banners:
Spoiler: show
- Zenge
- Stool Pigeon
- Posts in topic: 213
- Posts: 217
- Joined: Sat Apr 01, 2023 8:58 pm
- Gender: Male
- Preferred Pronouns: He/him/his/himself
Re: [DAY 2] Literal WWerecreatures Invade Syndicate Zoo: An SDN Crossover Game
You’re asking me to not solve based on my wolf read though. That just doesn’t make sense.
I think Falcon is a wolf. By far this is my strongest read. So my other wolf reads are going to stem from that, which is what Santy is asking me to ignore. he doesn’t want to hear about who I think could be partnered with Falcon.
Ergo, he’s asking for my wolf reads in a Village!Falcon world (as emphasized by his “if I had mech proof falcon was village” statement).
I’m not going to exert a bunch of energy and waste my time building cases I don’t believe in.
I think Falcon is a wolf. By far this is my strongest read. So my other wolf reads are going to stem from that, which is what Santy is asking me to ignore. he doesn’t want to hear about who I think could be partnered with Falcon.
Ergo, he’s asking for my wolf reads in a Village!Falcon world (as emphasized by his “if I had mech proof falcon was village” statement).
I’m not going to exert a bunch of energy and waste my time building cases I don’t believe in.
In conclusion, Carthage Falcon45ca must be destroyed.
-
- Stool Pigeon
- Posts in topic: 103
- Posts: 112
- Joined: Mon Mar 27, 2023 10:32 am
- Preferred Pronouns: He/him
Re: [DAY 2] Literal WWerecreatures Invade Syndicate Zoo: An SDN Crossover Game
I feel like there’s a lot of resistance to zenges push on falcons
Santy at least is approaching from a pretty strongly village trajectory by highlighting the need to reassess in the event Zenges is wrong and looking for other wolves that don’t depend primarily on falcons being a wolf
Santy at least is approaching from a pretty strongly village trajectory by highlighting the need to reassess in the event Zenges is wrong and looking for other wolves that don’t depend primarily on falcons being a wolf
- Zenge
- Stool Pigeon
- Posts in topic: 213
- Posts: 217
- Joined: Sat Apr 01, 2023 8:58 pm
- Gender: Male
- Preferred Pronouns: He/him/his/himself
Re: [DAY 2] Literal WWerecreatures Invade Syndicate Zoo: An SDN Crossover Game
There is a lot of resistance, yes. It’s been an uphill battle.Lawpy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 1:28 pm I feel like there’s a lot of resistance to zenges push on falcons
Santy at least is approaching from a pretty strongly village trajectory by highlighting the need to reassess in the event Zenges is wrong and looking for other wolves that don’t depend primarily on falcons being a wolf
In conclusion, Carthage Falcon45ca must be destroyed.
- Marmot
- Marmot
- Posts in topic: 202
- Posts: 30973
- Joined: Sat Jan 11, 2014 11:21 am
- Location: Oregon
- Gender: Genderfluid
- Preferred Pronouns: they/them
- Aka: Marmot
- Contact:
Re: [DAY 2] Literal WWerecreatures Invade Syndicate Zoo: An SDN Crossover Game
At least recently, I think the resistance is more about figuring out what other reads Zenge has, and less about the fact that falcon's the one being pushed.Lawpy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 1:28 pm I feel like there’s a lot of resistance to zenges push on falcons
Santy at least is approaching from a pretty strongly village trajectory by highlighting the need to reassess in the event Zenges is wrong and looking for other wolves that don’t depend primarily on falcons being a wolf
Banners and Stuff
Spoiler: show
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 16, 2020 7:33 pm Just how many days of "let's yeet them tomorrow" can a mafioso survive?
The answer: all of them, if you are a marmot.
- Sloonei
- Cap'n Sloonbeard
- Posts in topic: 307
- Posts: 26594
- Joined: Fri May 15, 2015 11:05 pm
- Location: Buffalo
- Gender: Male
- Preferred Pronouns: he/his/him
Re: [DAY 2] Literal WWerecreatures Invade Syndicate Zoo: An SDN Crossover Game
Consider your own role in that.Zenge wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 1:30 pmThere is a lot of resistance, yes. It’s been an uphill battle.Lawpy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 1:28 pm I feel like there’s a lot of resistance to zenges push on falcons
Santy at least is approaching from a pretty strongly village trajectory by highlighting the need to reassess in the event Zenges is wrong and looking for other wolves that don’t depend primarily on falcons being a wolf
My banners:
Spoiler: show
- Zenge
- Stool Pigeon
- Posts in topic: 213
- Posts: 217
- Joined: Sat Apr 01, 2023 8:58 pm
- Gender: Male
- Preferred Pronouns: He/him/his/himself
Re: [DAY 2] Literal WWerecreatures Invade Syndicate Zoo: An SDN Crossover Game
No but he’s asking me for wolf reads outside of a Wolf!Falcon world.Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 1:31 pmAt least recently, I think the resistance is more about figuring out what other reads Zenge has, and less about the fact that falcon's the one being pushed.Lawpy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 1:28 pm I feel like there’s a lot of resistance to zenges push on falcons
Santy at least is approaching from a pretty strongly village trajectory by highlighting the need to reassess in the event Zenges is wrong and looking for other wolves that don’t depend primarily on falcons being a wolf
I don’t want to work hard solving the game under the assumption I’m wrong without actually flipping Falcon. That just completely undermines my position. I don’t want to build cases I don’t believe in.
In conclusion, Carthage Falcon45ca must be destroyed.
- santygrass
- Loan Shark
- Posts in topic: 473
- Posts: 2429
- Joined: Sat Aug 27, 2022 12:51 pm
- Location: Argentina
- Gender: Masculine
- Preferred Pronouns: Any
- Aka: Santy
Re: [DAY 2] Literal WWerecreatures Invade Syndicate Zoo: An SDN Crossover Game
Zenge wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 1:28 pm You’re asking me to not solve based on my wolf read though. That just doesn’t make sense.
I think Falcon is a wolf. By far this is my strongest read. So my other wolf reads are going to stem from that, which is what Santy is asking me to ignore. he doesn’t want to hear about who I think could be partnered with Falcon.
Ergo, he’s asking for my wolf reads in a Village!Falcon world (as emphasized by his “if I had mech proof falcon was village” statement).
I’m not going to exert a bunch of energy and waste my time building cases I don’t believe in.
This is my issue.
You not haing the ability to read people independently of Falcon.
Can't you recognize or have arguments of someone being scum NOT RELATED to falcon???
Look at the keyword here, not related. You don't even have to flip falcon as scum or village. Just ignore partnering aspect and you don't have reads???
I don't believe that, hence why I am asking you to work with me
Spoiler: show
- Zenge
- Stool Pigeon
- Posts in topic: 213
- Posts: 217
- Joined: Sat Apr 01, 2023 8:58 pm
- Gender: Male
- Preferred Pronouns: He/him/his/himself
Re: [DAY 2] Literal WWerecreatures Invade Syndicate Zoo: An SDN Crossover Game
Watch your tone, Sloonei, you look pretty bad in a Wolf!Falcon world.Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 1:32 pmConsider your own role in that.Zenge wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 1:30 pmThere is a lot of resistance, yes. It’s been an uphill battle.Lawpy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 1:28 pm I feel like there’s a lot of resistance to zenges push on falcons
Santy at least is approaching from a pretty strongly village trajectory by highlighting the need to reassess in the event Zenges is wrong and looking for other wolves that don’t depend primarily on falcons being a wolf
Consider your attempt to shut down the Flacon push early and then all the backtracking, hedging, and distancing you’ve done since to claim that this wasn’t what you were doing.
Your refusal to answer the point by point questions I laid out for you hasn’t been forgotten.
In conclusion, Carthage Falcon45ca must be destroyed.
- Sloonei
- Cap'n Sloonbeard
- Posts in topic: 307
- Posts: 26594
- Joined: Fri May 15, 2015 11:05 pm
- Location: Buffalo
- Gender: Male
- Preferred Pronouns: he/his/him
Re: [DAY 2] Literal WWerecreatures Invade Syndicate Zoo: An SDN Crossover Game
My point exactly.Zenge wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 1:36 pmWatch your tone, Sloonei, you look pretty bad in a Wolf!Falcon world.Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 1:32 pmConsider your own role in that.Zenge wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 1:30 pmThere is a lot of resistance, yes. It’s been an uphill battle.Lawpy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 1:28 pm I feel like there’s a lot of resistance to zenges push on falcons
Santy at least is approaching from a pretty strongly village trajectory by highlighting the need to reassess in the event Zenges is wrong and looking for other wolves that don’t depend primarily on falcons being a wolf
Consider your attempt to shut down the Flacon push early and then all the backtracking, hedging, and distancing you’ve done since to claim that this wasn’t what you were doing.
Your refusal to answer the point by point questions I laid out for you hasn’t been forgotten.
You have been so blindly tunneled on Falcon that you are attacking anyone who doesn't immediately agree with you.
I am not participating in this discussion again.
My banners:
Spoiler: show
- Zenge
- Stool Pigeon
- Posts in topic: 213
- Posts: 217
- Joined: Sat Apr 01, 2023 8:58 pm
- Gender: Male
- Preferred Pronouns: He/him/his/himself
Re: [DAY 2] Literal WWerecreatures Invade Syndicate Zoo: An SDN Crossover Game
Santy, I posted a reads list not too long ago. A lot of those are not based exclusively on Falcon. Go read it if you’re wondering where my head is at on the entire game. But I’m not going to build strong cases against people under the assumption Flacon is village.santygrass wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 1:34 pmZenge wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 1:28 pm You’re asking me to not solve based on my wolf read though. That just doesn’t make sense.
I think Falcon is a wolf. By far this is my strongest read. So my other wolf reads are going to stem from that, which is what Santy is asking me to ignore. he doesn’t want to hear about who I think could be partnered with Falcon.
Ergo, he’s asking for my wolf reads in a Village!Falcon world (as emphasized by his “if I had mech proof falcon was village” statement).
I’m not going to exert a bunch of energy and waste my time building cases I don’t believe in.
This is my issue.
You not haing the ability to read people independently of Falcon.
Can't you recognize or have arguments of someone being scum NOT RELATED to falcon???
Look at the keyword here, not related. You don't even have to flip falcon as scum or village. Just ignore partnering aspect and you don't have reads???
I don't believe that, hence why I am asking you to work with me
In conclusion, Carthage Falcon45ca must be destroyed.
- Zenge
- Stool Pigeon
- Posts in topic: 213
- Posts: 217
- Joined: Sat Apr 01, 2023 8:58 pm
- Gender: Male
- Preferred Pronouns: He/him/his/himself
Re: [DAY 2] Literal WWerecreatures Invade Syndicate Zoo: An SDN Crossover Game
I’m not attacking anyone. I’m arguing with Santy, but his approach to this conversation has been pro-town.Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 1:37 pmMy point exactly.Zenge wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 1:36 pmWatch your tone, Sloonei, you look pretty bad in a Wolf!Falcon world.Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 1:32 pmConsider your own role in that.Zenge wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 1:30 pmThere is a lot of resistance, yes. It’s been an uphill battle.Lawpy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 1:28 pm I feel like there’s a lot of resistance to zenges push on falcons
Santy at least is approaching from a pretty strongly village trajectory by highlighting the need to reassess in the event Zenges is wrong and looking for other wolves that don’t depend primarily on falcons being a wolf
Consider your attempt to shut down the Flacon push early and then all the backtracking, hedging, and distancing you’ve done since to claim that this wasn’t what you were doing.
Your refusal to answer the point by point questions I laid out for you hasn’t been forgotten.
You have been so blindly tunneled on Falcon that you are attacking anyone who doesn't immediately agree with you.
I am not participating in this discussion again.
Yours has been scummy. There’s a stark contrast
In conclusion, Carthage Falcon45ca must be destroyed.
- Zenge
- Stool Pigeon
- Posts in topic: 213
- Posts: 217
- Joined: Sat Apr 01, 2023 8:58 pm
- Gender: Male
- Preferred Pronouns: He/him/his/himself
Re: [DAY 2] Literal WWerecreatures Invade Syndicate Zoo: An SDN Crossover Game
Emphasis on Anyone. As in - “I’m not attacking JUST anyone, who disagrees with me. Only the ones who are super scummy about it”Zenge wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 1:39 pmI’m not attacking anyone. I’m arguing with Santy, but his approach to this conversation has been pro-town.Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 1:37 pmMy point exactly.Zenge wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 1:36 pmWatch your tone, Sloonei, you look pretty bad in a Wolf!Falcon world.Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 1:32 pmConsider your own role in that.Zenge wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 1:30 pmThere is a lot of resistance, yes. It’s been an uphill battle.Lawpy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 1:28 pm I feel like there’s a lot of resistance to zenges push on falcons
Santy at least is approaching from a pretty strongly village trajectory by highlighting the need to reassess in the event Zenges is wrong and looking for other wolves that don’t depend primarily on falcons being a wolf
Consider your attempt to shut down the Flacon push early and then all the backtracking, hedging, and distancing you’ve done since to claim that this wasn’t what you were doing.
Your refusal to answer the point by point questions I laid out for you hasn’t been forgotten.
You have been so blindly tunneled on Falcon that you are attacking anyone who doesn't immediately agree with you.
I am not participating in this discussion again.
Yours has been scummy. There’s a stark contrast
In conclusion, Carthage Falcon45ca must be destroyed.
- Zenge
- Stool Pigeon
- Posts in topic: 213
- Posts: 217
- Joined: Sat Apr 01, 2023 8:58 pm
- Gender: Male
- Preferred Pronouns: He/him/his/himself
Re: [DAY 2] Literal WWerecreatures Invade Syndicate Zoo: An SDN Crossover Game
Actually I think this continues to be an example of Sloonei being super scummy in this.
Claiming that I’m Blinding attacking ANYONE who doesn’t agree with my Falcon read is a gross misrepresentation of the facts and reality.
Claiming that I’m Blinding attacking ANYONE who doesn’t agree with my Falcon read is a gross misrepresentation of the facts and reality.
In conclusion, Carthage Falcon45ca must be destroyed.
-
- Stool Pigeon
- Posts in topic: 103
- Posts: 112
- Joined: Mon Mar 27, 2023 10:32 am
- Preferred Pronouns: He/him
Re: [DAY 2] Literal WWerecreatures Invade Syndicate Zoo: An SDN Crossover Game
Why is @Creature voting Santy?
- potentialsheltervet
- Drug Dealer
- Posts in topic: 299
- Posts: 1051
- Joined: Thu Mar 30, 2023 3:34 pm
- Gender: Female
- Preferred Pronouns: She/hers
- santygrass
- Loan Shark
- Posts in topic: 473
- Posts: 2429
- Joined: Sat Aug 27, 2022 12:51 pm
- Location: Argentina
- Gender: Masculine
- Preferred Pronouns: Any
- Aka: Santy
Re: [DAY 2] Literal WWerecreatures Invade Syndicate Zoo: An SDN Crossover Game
Zenge wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 1:38 pmSanty, I posted a reads list not too long ago. A lot of those are not based exclusively on Falcon. Go read it if you’re wondering where my head is at on the entire game. But I’m not going to build strong cases against people under the assumption Flacon is village.santygrass wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 1:34 pmZenge wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 1:28 pm You’re asking me to not solve based on my wolf read though. That just doesn’t make sense.
I think Falcon is a wolf. By far this is my strongest read. So my other wolf reads are going to stem from that, which is what Santy is asking me to ignore. he doesn’t want to hear about who I think could be partnered with Falcon.
Ergo, he’s asking for my wolf reads in a Village!Falcon world (as emphasized by his “if I had mech proof falcon was village” statement).
I’m not going to exert a bunch of energy and waste my time building cases I don’t believe in.
This is my issue.
You not haing the ability to read people independently of Falcon.
Can't you recognize or have arguments of someone being scum NOT RELATED to falcon???
Look at the keyword here, not related. You don't even have to flip falcon as scum or village. Just ignore partnering aspect and you don't have reads???
I don't believe that, hence why I am asking you to work with me
Oho Will look into that. I hope not too long ago is on this day tho (as in D2) .
If not I will likely ask for updates if any
Spoiler: show
Re: [DAY 1] Literal WWerecreatures Invade Syndicate Zoo: An SDN Crossover Game
was miranda town in these stardew and fire emblem games?SportPonies wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 7:22 pm okay I finally stopped being lazy and revoke what I said about Miranda.
Her tone is identical in Stardew and Fire Emblem.
if so, both sport ponies and animal midwife died while having townreads on miranda
that should be taken into account (the reads of the towns who died n1)
miranda boosts up in townyness
- santygrass
- Loan Shark
- Posts in topic: 473
- Posts: 2429
- Joined: Sat Aug 27, 2022 12:51 pm
- Location: Argentina
- Gender: Masculine
- Preferred Pronouns: Any
- Aka: Santy
Re: [DAY 1] Literal WWerecreatures Invade Syndicate Zoo: An SDN Crossover Game
Scum in Fire emblem, Town in Stardewtutuu wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 2:01 pmwas miranda town in these stardew and fire emblem games?SportPonies wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 7:22 pm okay I finally stopped being lazy and revoke what I said about Miranda.
Her tone is identical in Stardew and Fire Emblem.
if so, both sport ponies and animal midwife died while having townreads on miranda
that should be taken into account (the reads of the towns who died n1)
miranda boosts up in townyness
Spoiler: show
-
- Stool Pigeon
- Posts in topic: 123
- Posts: 124
- Joined: Thu Mar 30, 2023 2:57 pm
- Gender: Female
- Preferred Pronouns: she/her
- Aka: Miranda
Re: [DAY 2] Literal WWerecreatures Invade Syndicate Zoo: An SDN Crossover Game
I'm interested in why @Seanzie is on SAR, she doesn't feel overtly scummy to me
I'm currently torn on where to put my vote and I don't have much time left before I need to leave for Taylor Swift!
I'm currently torn on where to put my vote and I don't have much time left before I need to leave for Taylor Swift!
Re: [DAY 1] Literal WWerecreatures Invade Syndicate Zoo: An SDN Crossover Game
rip nevermind then (unless they did actually townread miranda after all. ill check tomorrow)santygrass wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 2:07 pmScum in Fire emblem, Town in Stardewtutuu wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 2:01 pmwas miranda town in these stardew and fire emblem games?SportPonies wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 7:22 pm okay I finally stopped being lazy and revoke what I said about Miranda.
Her tone is identical in Stardew and Fire Emblem.
if so, both sport ponies and animal midwife died while having townreads on miranda
that should be taken into account (the reads of the towns who died n1)
miranda boosts up in townyness
- potentialsheltervet
- Drug Dealer
- Posts in topic: 299
- Posts: 1051
- Joined: Thu Mar 30, 2023 3:34 pm
- Gender: Female
- Preferred Pronouns: She/hers
Re: [DAY 1] Literal WWerecreatures Invade Syndicate Zoo: An SDN Crossover Game
Aren't you asleep?tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 2:11 pmrip nevermind then (unless they did actually townread miranda after all. ill check tomorrow)santygrass wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 2:07 pmScum in Fire emblem, Town in Stardewtutuu wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 2:01 pmwas miranda town in these stardew and fire emblem games?SportPonies wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 7:22 pm okay I finally stopped being lazy and revoke what I said about Miranda.
Her tone is identical in Stardew and Fire Emblem.
if so, both sport ponies and animal midwife died while having townreads on miranda
that should be taken into account (the reads of the towns who died n1)
miranda boosts up in townyness
- santygrass
- Loan Shark
- Posts in topic: 473
- Posts: 2429
- Joined: Sat Aug 27, 2022 12:51 pm
- Location: Argentina
- Gender: Masculine
- Preferred Pronouns: Any
- Aka: Santy
Re: [DAY 2] Literal WWerecreatures Invade Syndicate Zoo: An SDN Crossover Game
Gth I think she does because the progression ofmiranda920 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 2:10 pm I'm interested in why @Seanzie is on SAR, she doesn't feel overtly scummy to me
I'm currently torn on where to put my vote and I don't have much time left before I need to leave for Taylor Swift!
Voting me to 'beetlejuice' > Sheeping Zenge on falcon without caring much about individual read on Falcon its pretty bad
Spoiler: show
-
- Stool Pigeon
- Posts in topic: 123
- Posts: 124
- Joined: Thu Mar 30, 2023 2:57 pm
- Gender: Female
- Preferred Pronouns: she/her
- Aka: Miranda
Re: [DAY 2] Literal WWerecreatures Invade Syndicate Zoo: An SDN Crossover Game
okay, I see your perspectivesantygrass wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 2:17 pmGth I think she does because the progression ofmiranda920 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 2:10 pm I'm interested in why @Seanzie is on SAR, she doesn't feel overtly scummy to me
I'm currently torn on where to put my vote and I don't have much time left before I need to leave for Taylor Swift!
Voting me to 'beetlejuice' > Sheeping Zenge on falcon without caring much about individual read on Falcon its pretty bad
I struggle with seeing her as anything but town because of my bias
- santygrass
- Loan Shark
- Posts in topic: 473
- Posts: 2429
- Joined: Sat Aug 27, 2022 12:51 pm
- Location: Argentina
- Gender: Masculine
- Preferred Pronouns: Any
- Aka: Santy
Re: [DAY 1] Literal WWerecreatures Invade Syndicate Zoo: An SDN Crossover Game
Didn't find the readlist but found this and I am ultrapocketed pls
Spoiler: show
- santygrass
- Loan Shark
- Posts in topic: 473
- Posts: 2429
- Joined: Sat Aug 27, 2022 12:51 pm
- Location: Argentina
- Gender: Masculine
- Preferred Pronouns: Any
- Aka: Santy
Re: [DAY 2] Literal WWerecreatures Invade Syndicate Zoo: An SDN Crossover Game
To be fair its not like SAR is howling, but on a base level. Could see this being SAR scum game, but keeping in mind its still pretty similar to SAR playstyle of flying pants or something like that.miranda920 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 2:19 pmokay, I see your perspectivesantygrass wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 2:17 pmGth I think she does because the progression ofmiranda920 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 2:10 pm I'm interested in why @Seanzie is on SAR, she doesn't feel overtly scummy to me
I'm currently torn on where to put my vote and I don't have much time left before I need to leave for Taylor Swift!
Voting me to 'beetlejuice' > Sheeping Zenge on falcon without caring much about individual read on Falcon its pretty bad
I struggle with seeing her as anything but town because of my bias
Usually its far easier to rely on Dubz soulread, sadge
Spoiler: show
- Zenge
- Stool Pigeon
- Posts in topic: 213
- Posts: 217
- Joined: Sat Apr 01, 2023 8:58 pm
- Gender: Male
- Preferred Pronouns: He/him/his/himself
Re: [DAY 2] Literal WWerecreatures Invade Syndicate Zoo: An SDN Crossover Game
There’s some irony here of scum reading SAR for sheeping me, while admitting you usually sheep Dubz for reading SAR.santygrass wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 2:23 pmTo be fair its not like SAR is howling, but on a base level. Could see this being SAR scum game, but keeping in mind its still pretty similar to SAR playstyle of flying pants or something like that.miranda920 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 2:19 pmokay, I see your perspectivesantygrass wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 2:17 pmGth I think she does because the progression ofmiranda920 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 2:10 pm I'm interested in why @Seanzie is on SAR, she doesn't feel overtly scummy to me
I'm currently torn on where to put my vote and I don't have much time left before I need to leave for Taylor Swift!
Voting me to 'beetlejuice' > Sheeping Zenge on falcon without caring much about individual read on Falcon its pretty bad
I struggle with seeing her as anything but town because of my bias
Usually its far easier to rely on Dubz soulread, sadge
I think is defense of SARs sheep, she’s played with me a fair amount. I think SAR knows I never make pushes like this as a wolf, and even as a villager I almost NEVER make pushes on anyone as strongly as I’ve been pushing Falcon here.
In conclusion, Carthage Falcon45ca must be destroyed.
- Sloonei
- Cap'n Sloonbeard
- Posts in topic: 307
- Posts: 26594
- Joined: Fri May 15, 2015 11:05 pm
- Location: Buffalo
- Gender: Male
- Preferred Pronouns: he/his/him
Re: [DAY 1] Literal WWerecreatures Invade Syndicate Zoo: An SDN Crossover Game
Commencing Operation Appease Zenge. Here is a Falcon ISO.
Falcon is a pot stirrer. He says provocative things to put direct pressure on people. Here we see him getting a head start by doing that to Dennis.
Here he does the same thing, targeting Wilgy.
After wilgy responds jokingly to Falcon's initial pressure, Falcon comments on Zenge commenting on the Miranda wagon. This is actually a more reasonable post than the previous two, and is not purely provocative.
This one is more provocative. This is the same thing Falcon did to Dennis and Wilgy earlier. He is casting a wide net, if nothing else.
This one is followed up by a vote. Noted.
The first escalation of The Conflict. This is not out of bounds for Falcon's shtick. He is squeezing Zenge to see what comes out. Maybe a bit more tightly than Dennis or Wilgy before. But that is likely more to do with the way Zenge reacted than him being singled out or anything.
Another provocative statement, this time directed toward Santy.
Some more back-and-forth with Santy. Falcon's tone is notably less antagonistic than with Zenge. But I can easily attribute that to Falcon matching the energy of those around him. He is still putting pressure on Santy here, his tone is just more reserved. I would also describe Santy's tone as more reserved than Zenge's.
Falcon and Zenge continue to butt heads. I do not agree with Zenge's interpretation of Falcon's actions. It is very reasonable for Falcon to assume that Zenge's initial objection to the Miranda wagon was the timing of it. In fact, I struggle to identify a different interpretation.
But Falcon's response is similarly nitpicky. "Is it strange or is it scummy?" is a reach. But that's still within Falcon's shtick here. This does not need to mean that Falcon is town. It just means that I am reading his words here as being intentionally provocative so as to get a strong reaction out of Zenge. Boy did he succeed at that.
I do not like this post, especially in light of Scotty's flip. This is not antagonistic or provocative Falcon. This is just Falcon shading a player and undermining SVS' town read on Scotty.
I take this as an accusation that Zenge is suspicious for objecting too much to Falcon's initial pokes. I can see why Falcon might feel that way. Zenge is moving the goal posts a bit here. As I've said, it's not unreasonable for Falcon to have assumed that the entirety of Zenge's initial objection was the speed of the Miranda wagon. Zenge is only now (as far as their exchange goes) introducing new wrinkles to it. I do not think that needs to reflect poorly on Zenge. But I do think it undermines his argument against Falcon.
We are now going in circles. Day 1 noise.
I do not understand this objection to Zenge's posts.
Oh. I see. When it's phrased that way, I get it. I don't agree with that interpretation of Zenge's posts though.
Falcon announces his intention to move on from the Zenge argument. I am unclear on exactly how he feels about Zenge at this point.
Falcon then directs a couple posts at/about Dennis and Mayo. Following through on his intention to move on.
I understand Falcon's perspective here. Zenge frames his actions in a very favorable light/ Falcon does not. I don't think either of them are reading each other properly here. Falcon's objection is that Zenge didn't follow through on his objection to the Miranda wagon quickly enough. I don't care about that. But I get why it's a thing that Day 1 Falcon seized upon. Zenge's objection stems from his own perspective about his actions, and does not seem to take into account what Falcon is actually objecting to.
But now I'm running into a problem as I delve further into Falcon's ISO. Once we get beyond these early Day 1 spats, things drop off significantly. His feistiness gives way to generic prods and questions, and some surface level reads. To what extent flu medication is responsible for that is TBD.
This prod of PSV has a little more life to it. But it's still not much.
It appears that Falcon came out of his scrape with Zenge with a town read. But I do have a concern here. Why did it take Falcon so long to announce that he had dropped his suspicion on Zenge? This post only came when he was directly pressed by Zenge to name a suspect. He also votes for Nate. I was initially uncertain about that, but Falcon's very next post has the answer:
This is fair.
This is getting a bit more feisty. I like that at face value. But I'm not exactly following Falcon's point here.
I guess I kind of follow Falcon's reasoning here. PSV is using Neon's perspective to inform their own read on Falcon, but PSV is claiming to not have a town read on Neon. I don't think that necessarily needs to be a bad look for PSV. But I can see why Falcon would object.
idk what specifically falcon and fry object to in this Creature post.
Falcon seeks a direct answer to his PSV question. Cool.
Falcon does not seem interested in talking about the people who are talking about him. I don't love that.
I don't love this either. These are not names that Falcon has talked about much. He has pushed other things that are not receiving much attention in the thread at this point. He voted for Nate because of his handling of Dennis, for instance. He has been trying to raise a point about PSV's Neon read (though maybe he feels that one has received enough attention). "santy and Kate aren't here" isn't as substantive a take as I was hoping for when I prodded falcon here.
Delayed follow up to ask me about Marmot. I don't remember Falcon responding to me when I answered him.
Oh he did respond. I guess I just didn't see it. But it's a nothing response where he downplays my vote and doesn't offer anything of his own.
Falcon condones Creature suspicion. He has already voted for Creature, so this isn't news. But he supports the meta read I presented.
Falcon also asks Dennis about his Falcon suspicion. Falcon then prods Marmot and votes him. I'm not a big fan of the way this question is framed. It is deliberately playful and soft.
Falcon sees my Scotty suspicion and piles on. I do not love it in light of Scotty's flip. But I don't think this is an unfair objection for Falcon to raise in the moment.
In spite of those Scotty objections, Falcon pivots back to Creature. Okay.
Then why aren't you voting for Scotty, Falcon?
------
This brings us to the end of Day 1, so I'm gonna hit submit here.
The tl;dr of all this is that I do not object to any of Falcon's early plays, but found that he dropped off as the phase went on. Not just in volume, but in conviction and direction. Early on he was making things happen. Later in the day, it felt like he was trying to grasp at things around him. I am not in love with the way he handled the Scotty and Creatre wagons. Falcon ended up on Creature, but spent multiple posts trying to talk me out of my doubts about my own Scotty case. @falcon45ca why that?
Spoiler: show
Spoiler: show
Spoiler: show
Spoiler: show
Spoiler: show
Spoiler: show
Spoiler: show
Spoiler: show
Spoiler: show
But Falcon's response is similarly nitpicky. "Is it strange or is it scummy?" is a reach. But that's still within Falcon's shtick here. This does not need to mean that Falcon is town. It just means that I am reading his words here as being intentionally provocative so as to get a strong reaction out of Zenge. Boy did he succeed at that.
Spoiler: show
Spoiler: show
Spoiler: show
Spoiler: show
Spoiler: show
Spoiler: show
Spoiler: show
Spoiler: show
But now I'm running into a problem as I delve further into Falcon's ISO. Once we get beyond these early Day 1 spats, things drop off significantly. His feistiness gives way to generic prods and questions, and some surface level reads. To what extent flu medication is responsible for that is TBD.
Spoiler: show
Spoiler: show
Spoiler: show
Spoiler: show
Spoiler: show
Spoiler: show
Spoiler: show
Spoiler: show
Spoiler: show
Spoiler: show
Spoiler: show
Spoiler: show
Spoiler: show
Spoiler: show
Spoiler: show
Spoiler: show
------
This brings us to the end of Day 1, so I'm gonna hit submit here.
The tl;dr of all this is that I do not object to any of Falcon's early plays, but found that he dropped off as the phase went on. Not just in volume, but in conviction and direction. Early on he was making things happen. Later in the day, it felt like he was trying to grasp at things around him. I am not in love with the way he handled the Scotty and Creatre wagons. Falcon ended up on Creature, but spent multiple posts trying to talk me out of my doubts about my own Scotty case. @falcon45ca why that?
My banners:
Spoiler: show
- Sloonei
- Cap'n Sloonbeard
- Posts in topic: 307
- Posts: 26594
- Joined: Fri May 15, 2015 11:05 pm
- Location: Buffalo
- Gender: Male
- Preferred Pronouns: he/his/him
Re: [DAY 2] Literal WWerecreatures Invade Syndicate Zoo: An SDN Crossover Game
Let me rephrase: You are responding to commentary around your Falcon read more defensively than is necessary. I do not believe there has been resistance to your push. I feel more like you have resisted people who talk to you about it (i.e. myself and santy.)
My banners:
Spoiler: show
-
- Stool Pigeon
- Posts in topic: 103
- Posts: 112
- Joined: Mon Mar 27, 2023 10:32 am
- Preferred Pronouns: He/him
Re: [DAY 2] Literal WWerecreatures Invade Syndicate Zoo: An SDN Crossover Game
No there is a lot of resistance, with arguments essentially down to: “this is just falcons being falcons”. I don’t even understand why falcons is even being townread by some Syndicate players
- potentialsheltervet
- Drug Dealer
- Posts in topic: 299
- Posts: 1051
- Joined: Thu Mar 30, 2023 3:34 pm
- Gender: Female
- Preferred Pronouns: She/hers
Re: [DAY 2] Literal WWerecreatures Invade Syndicate Zoo: An SDN Crossover Game
@Sloonei Gth, what is your read on falcon?
- Sloonei
- Cap'n Sloonbeard
- Posts in topic: 307
- Posts: 26594
- Joined: Fri May 15, 2015 11:05 pm
- Location: Buffalo
- Gender: Male
- Preferred Pronouns: he/his/him
Re: [DAY 2] Literal WWerecreatures Invade Syndicate Zoo: An SDN Crossover Game
Mafia
My banners:
Spoiler: show
-
- Stool Pigeon
- Posts in topic: 103
- Posts: 112
- Joined: Mon Mar 27, 2023 10:32 am
- Preferred Pronouns: He/him
Re: [DAY 1] Literal WWerecreatures Invade Syndicate Zoo: An SDN Crossover Game
I understand Falcon's perspective here. Zenge frames his actions in a very favorable light/ Falcon does not. I don't think either of them are reading each other properly here. Falcon's objection is that Zenge didn't follow through on his objection to the Miranda wagon quickly enough. I don't care about that. But I get why it's a thing that Day 1 Falcon seized upon. Zenge's objection stems from his own perspective about his actions, and does not seem to take into account what Falcon is actually objecting to.Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 3:05 pm Commencing Operation Appease Zenge. Here is a Falcon ISO.
Falcon is a pot stirrer. He says provocative things to put direct pressure on people. Here we see him getting a head start by doing that to Dennis.Spoiler: show
Here he does the same thing, targeting Wilgy.Spoiler: show
After wilgy responds jokingly to Falcon's initial pressure, Falcon comments on Zenge commenting on the Miranda wagon. This is actually a more reasonable post than the previous two, and is not purely provocative.Spoiler: show
This one is more provocative. This is the same thing Falcon did to Dennis and Wilgy earlier. He is casting a wide net, if nothing else.Spoiler: showThis one is followed up by a vote. Noted.Spoiler: show
The first escalation of The Conflict. This is not out of bounds for Falcon's shtick. He is squeezing Zenge to see what comes out. Maybe a bit more tightly than Dennis or Wilgy before. But that is likely more to do with the way Zenge reacted than him being singled out or anything.Spoiler: show
Another provocative statement, this time directed toward Santy.Spoiler: show
Some more back-and-forth with Santy. Falcon's tone is notably less antagonistic than with Zenge. But I can easily attribute that to Falcon matching the energy of those around him. He is still putting pressure on Santy here, his tone is just more reserved. I would also describe Santy's tone as more reserved than Zenge's.Spoiler: show
Falcon and Zenge continue to butt heads. I do not agree with Zenge's interpretation of Falcon's actions. It is very reasonable for Falcon to assume that Zenge's initial objection to the Miranda wagon was the timing of it. In fact, I struggle to identify a different interpretation.Spoiler: show
But Falcon's response is similarly nitpicky. "Is it strange or is it scummy?" is a reach. But that's still within Falcon's shtick here. This does not need to mean that Falcon is town. It just means that I am reading his words here as being intentionally provocative so as to get a strong reaction out of Zenge. Boy did he succeed at that.
I do not like this post, especially in light of Scotty's flip. This is not antagonistic or provocative Falcon. This is just Falcon shading a player and undermining SVS' town read on Scotty.Spoiler: show
I take this as an accusation that Zenge is suspicious for objecting too much to Falcon's initial pokes. I can see why Falcon might feel that way. Zenge is moving the goal posts a bit here. As I've said, it's not unreasonable for Falcon to have assumed that the entirety of Zenge's initial objection was the speed of the Miranda wagon. Zenge is only now (as far as their exchange goes) introducing new wrinkles to it. I do not think that needs to reflect poorly on Zenge. But I do think it undermines his argument against Falcon.Spoiler: show
We are now going in circles. Day 1 noise.Spoiler: show
I do not understand this objection to Zenge's posts.Spoiler: show
Oh. I see. When it's phrased that way, I get it. I don't agree with that interpretation of Zenge's posts though.Spoiler: show
Falcon announces his intention to move on from the Zenge argument. I am unclear on exactly how he feels about Zenge at this point.Spoiler: show
Falcon then directs a couple posts at/about Dennis and Mayo. Following through on his intention to move on.Spoiler: show
Spoiler: show
But now I'm running into a problem as I delve further into Falcon's ISO. Once we get beyond these early Day 1 spats, things drop off significantly. His feistiness gives way to generic prods and questions, and some surface level reads. To what extent flu medication is responsible for that is TBD.
Spoiler: show
Spoiler: show
Spoiler: show
Spoiler: show
Spoiler: show
Spoiler: show
Spoiler: show
Spoiler: show
Spoiler: show
Spoiler: show
Spoiler: show
Spoiler: show
Spoiler: show
Spoiler: show
Spoiler: show
Spoiler: show
------
This brings us to the end of Day 1, so I'm gonna hit submit here.
The tl;dr of all this is that I do not object to any of Falcon's early plays, but found that he dropped off as the phase went on. Not just in volume, but in conviction and direction. Early on he was making things happen. Later in the day, it felt like he was trying to grasp at things around him. I am not in love with the way he handled the Scotty and Creatre wagons. Falcon ended up on Creature, but spent multiple posts trying to talk me out of my doubts about my own Scotty case. @falcon45ca why that?
[/quote]
Now i am even more confused by your reaction to zenges push on falcons
-
- Stool Pigeon
- Posts in topic: 103
- Posts: 112
- Joined: Mon Mar 27, 2023 10:32 am
- Preferred Pronouns: He/him
Re: [DAY 2] Literal WWerecreatures Invade Syndicate Zoo: An SDN Crossover Game
Yikes massive quote fail