[END] Literal WWerecreatures Invade Syndicate Zoo: An SDN Crossover Game

[MacDougall]

Like , I kinda think Mac is townreading me but isn't admitting it. Either because they are tilted by me or because they had to tonally switch between being pro-town yesterday and now being more anti-town.

Why would I have to tonally shift?

[santygrass]

Like , I kinda think Mac is townreading me but isn't admitting it. Either because they are tilted by me or because they had to tonally switch between being pro-town yesterday and now being more anti-town.

Why would I have to tonally shift?

Because it seems that werecreatures are close to losing and its in the interest of another scum faction to not fight against the town alone

[MacDougall]

Like , I kinda think Mac is townreading me but isn't admitting it. Either because they are tilted by me or because they had to tonally switch between being pro-town yesterday and now being more anti-town.

Why would I have to tonally shift?

Because it seems that werecreatures are close to losing and its in the interest of another scum faction to not fight against the town alone

So your theory is that ... I'm non Werecreature faction mafia who townreads you and I'm tonally shifting to being anti-town because I need to start killing town?

[santygrass]

Yes

[MacDougall]

And said necessary tonal shift has been demonstrated by my fake re-evaluation on you?

So my plan to secure my factions win revolves around re-evaluating you from towncore (a read I didn't even have at the start of the day) and pocketing every other player in the game.

Because you are the ultra threat of all town and of all the town that exist I must catch the ultra threat of Santy the Destroyer.

Muahahaha. And you marvellous town GOD have foiled me. Seen straight through my devilish master plan. @Dennis he has figured out our devious Vampiric schemes we must now pivot to super anti-town and not townread him even harder!

[MacDougall]

[VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine

Unpredictable move designed to confuse and distract Santy while I wolfy up the place.

[MacDougall]

Surely if I push Seanzie he will go on omgus tilt and start raging at me and call me outed. This will lead to the town cohesion breaking but be pinned on him not me because I have masterfully pocketed everyone. Santy will back him up and it will further erode his town cred for siding with Seanzie and make me EVEN DEEPA.

#deepwolflife

[MacDougall]

@Seanzie hey Seanzie I WOLFREAD you. What you gonna do about it?

[MacDougall]

Vampire faction is Tutuu/Santy/Seanzie gg.

[S~V~S]

Nah, Silly Santy, Mac is for townies!

[MacDougall]

@Neon you gotta belee me.

[MacDougall]

Nah, Silly Santy, Mac is for townies!

Muahaha so POCKETED.

[MacDougall]

*curls moustache evilly*

[NateTheLesser]

I feel like there's a post restriction here.

There's not a post restrictor, unless it's something an inventor cooked up.

This actually feels like a genuine slip. I believe he didn't know Creature had the role. But I also want to know why you dismissed the idea completely @NateTheLesser?

this is interesting...

How did you come across this post? It's a few pages into the day. Just curious.

I was reading through the pages? I can read lol
Just because I don’t quote a lot doesn’t mean I don’t read what is being said

Yes I know you can read

It was like 5 minutes after your "okay I'm gonna try to catch up" post, which sounded like you were starting from the start of the day or possibly before.

[Seanzie]

@Seanzie hey Seanzie I WOLFREAD you. What you gonna do about it?

I'mma go throw an axe at the wall.

[S~V~S]

I feel like there's a post restriction here.

There's not a post restrictor, unless it's something an inventor cooked up.

This actually feels like a genuine slip. I believe he didn't know Creature had the role. But I also want to know why you dismissed the idea completely @NateTheLesser?

this is interesting...

How did you come across this post? It's a few pages into the day. Just curious.

I was reading through the pages? I can read lol
Just because I don’t quote a lot doesn’t mean I don’t read what is being said

Yes I know you can read

It was like 5 minutes after your "okay I'm gonna try to catch up" post, which sounded like you were starting from the start of the day or possibly before.

This also stood out to me. This was the only post from her catch up. She has said this before; just be3casue she isn't posting doesn't mean she's not reading. I get it, I'm not a prolific poster myself. But the whole point of this is to read AND to post your opinions. Reading without posting doesn't seem a winning strategy.

Is this the norm for her at SDN? I feel like I'm shouting in the wilderness here, becasue I really do think she is woofy.

[NateTheLesser]

How do I make votes appear here?

I didn't play the tutorial level.

@Mayo the Mayo do you remember about when you actually voted Lawpy in the poll? Couldn't find a vote post. Not really important, I'm just a nerd.

8:16ish Wednesday

I posted this question after voting in the poll.

But also this is interesting actually because that would make you the first Creature voter on d1 by a significant margin (instead of falcon being the one to start the wagon).

Or did you vote for someone else and then move to Creature later? This is suddenly important to me. Kind of hate that the poll doesn't have vote history.

Creature was my only vote either day

Do you recall if Creature already had a vote when you voted? If you were the first vote and it was actually at that earlier time then it's a pretty different gamestate for assessing the later votes.

[NateTheLesser]

There's not a post restrictor, unless it's something an inventor cooked up.

This actually feels like a genuine slip. I believe he didn't know Creature had the role. But I also want to know why you dismissed the idea completely @NateTheLesser?

this is interesting...

How did you come across this post? It's a few pages into the day. Just curious.

I was reading through the pages? I can read lol
Just because I don’t quote a lot doesn’t mean I don’t read what is being said

Yes I know you can read

It was like 5 minutes after your "okay I'm gonna try to catch up" post, which sounded like you were starting from the start of the day or possibly before.

This also stood out to me. This was the only post from her catch up. She has said this before; just be3casue she isn't posting doesn't mean she's not reading. I get it, I'm not a prolific poster myself. But the whole point of this is to read AND to post your opinions. Reading without posting doesn't seem a winning strategy.

Is this the norm for her at SDN? I feel like I'm shouting in the wilderness here, becasue I really do think she is woofy.

I agree with Neon that I don't think miranda is with Creature. But it does ping me for being in the other faction, since that's the sort of suspicion post that's easy to bump by quoting it. (And I also replied to it later, which if she's continuing to catch up she would see)

[NateTheLesser]

Hard claim vampire self poisoner

What made you think vampires for the poison rather than a poisoner being in the game? Is there syndicate history with vampires as a faction?

[SARdoghandler]

I would caution against using claims as clearing at most levels as on SDN we often have designs to combat this - mods providing fakeclaims for wolves, giving traditional town roles to wolves and vice versa, and otherwise messing with "expected" mechanics. Not saying it may not be useful, but should be interpreted with caution.

I'm also still tinfoiling that we have two separate scum factions. Since sdn plays werewolf and syndicats play mafia, I was thinking we might have wolves (were animals) and mafia in this game rather than 3p/sk as the other faction

I like your tinfoil. It would explain some of the extra night kills.

Do you have an updated reads list?

Your first one was based off of only a partial read of the game.

Any evolution in your thoughts since then?

I mean, everything is going to be based off of a partial read because I'm not going back to D1 outside of ISOs and I've read ~75% of D2. We're doing well today, I think I've read nearly everything.

Reads right now look like

Mac
Tutuu
Mayo

Miranda
MR7

SVS*
Neon*
Nate
Sloonei*
Dennis*

Seanzie*
genny
Santy

Lawpy

Stars denote players I want to take time to do iso's of because I'm ranking them more on gut feel - hence why they're mostly mid-pack so I need to sort those out more concretely. Basically slotted where it felt right on tone since I have no meta but didn't have as many obvious village points that gave me my Tutuu/Mac reads

[SARdoghandler]

[VOTE: Lawpy] aubergine

[SARdoghandler]

I am feeling nervous we haven't flipped any other faction members. At least insofar as we have no way to know when we've eliminated a faction (I assume) and that we may waste time looking for additional "partners" while the other faction gets more kill time

[SARdoghandler]

I wish genny would come back because her absence is NAI but I wish she'd say some things so I could form a better read



We're just going to pretend that says genny because it's the closest I could get

[MacDougall]

I am feeling nervous we haven't flipped any other faction members. At least insofar as we have no way to know when we've eliminated a faction (I assume) and that we may waste time looking for additional "partners" while the other faction gets more kill time

Factions generally get announced as defeated.

[MacDougall]

Hard claim vampire self poisoner

What made you think vampires for the poison rather than a poisoner being in the game? Is there syndicate history with vampires as a faction?

The message I got overnight felt kinda vampirey and Vampires and Werewolves go together like peas and carrots.

Given that I didn't realise there was a poisoner in the game at the time it now reads basically just like a poison so there's not really any reason to assume vampires. But let's call them that anyway until we know different lol.

[tutuu]

I am feeling nervous we haven't flipped any other faction members. At least insofar as we have no way to know when we've eliminated a faction (I assume) and that we may waste time looking for additional "partners" while the other faction gets more kill time

Factions generally get announced as defeated.

*Vietnam war flashbacks to goc 2020*

[SARdoghandler]

I am feeling nervous we haven't flipped any other faction members. At least insofar as we have no way to know when we've eliminated a faction (I assume) and that we may waste time looking for additional "partners" while the other faction gets more kill time

Factions generally get announced as defeated.

Oh well that's nice. We don't usually do that on SDN haha. Sometimes there will be hints but most times it's just like "well the game isn't over... we looking for another wolf or something else?"

[NateTheLesser]

I am feeling nervous we haven't flipped any other faction members. At least insofar as we have no way to know when we've eliminated a faction (I assume) and that we may waste time looking for additional "partners" while the other faction gets more kill time

Factions generally get announced as defeated.

Oh well that's nice. We don't usually do that on SDN haha. Sometimes there will be hints but most times it's just like "well the game isn't over... we looking for another wolf or something else?"

Sometimes there aren't any wolves at all, just a cult that's slowly adding members

[miranda920]

@miranda920 can you tell me about your current view? Like, who are your confident reads / try to sort people into town/scum ?

Dont think you trying to shiel/explain yourself on why you did for being pressed on time or whatever will make me feel better about you, so I think taking a different stance and try to solve/put your thought on the game will help me more

Lawpy - lean wolf
Genny - neutral, Genny is always a challenging read for me
Mayo - neutral, leaning more town
MR7 - town
Nate - neutral, unsure there are some iffy things
Santy - surprisingly you seem town to me, but you could easily good me
SAR - leans town
Dennis - neutral
Tutuu - seems townie
Mac - also seems town
Neon - feels town
SVS - neutral (also I promised I will get you those quotes when I have access to my laptop)
Seanzie - unsure, nothing has stood out to me about them
Sloonei - I’ve generally felt fine about them

Seems like everyone is town or neutral except 1. Why have you been holding back your vote?

Because I’m trying to be a polite and enthusiastic extern. Also cell signal is very limited through rural Indiana

[miranda920]

I feel like there's a post restriction here.

There's not a post restrictor, unless it's something an inventor cooked up.

This actually feels like a genuine slip. I believe he didn't know Creature had the role. But I also want to know why you dismissed the idea completely @NateTheLesser?

this is interesting...

How did you come across this post? It's a few pages into the day. Just curious.

I was reading through the pages? I can read lol
Just because I don’t quote a lot doesn’t mean I don’t read what is being said

Yes I know you can read

It was like 5 minutes after your "okay I'm gonna try to catch up" post, which sounded like you were starting from the start of the day or possibly before.

Nate, I don’t even know where I’m at anymore lol

I just was reading something

[NateTheLesser]

[VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine

[NateTheLesser]

There's not a post restrictor, unless it's something an inventor cooked up.

This actually feels like a genuine slip. I believe he didn't know Creature had the role. But I also want to know why you dismissed the idea completely @NateTheLesser?

this is interesting...

How did you come across this post? It's a few pages into the day. Just curious.

I was reading through the pages? I can read lol
Just because I don’t quote a lot doesn’t mean I don’t read what is being said

Yes I know you can read

It was like 5 minutes after your "okay I'm gonna try to catch up" post, which sounded like you were starting from the start of the day or possibly before.

Nate, I don’t even know where I’m at anymore lol

I just was reading something

Ok, keep reading. Game's slowed down a lot, so there's not a ton from today.

[NateTheLesser]

Thought about doing a mini walrus and using my next broadcast for the reveal, but idk.

[NateTheLesser]

I would caution against using claims as clearing at most levels as on SDN we often have designs to combat this - mods providing fakeclaims for wolves, giving traditional town roles to wolves and vice versa, and otherwise messing with "expected" mechanics. Not saying it may not be useful, but should be interpreted with caution.

I'm also still tinfoiling that we have two separate scum factions. Since sdn plays werewolf and syndicats play mafia, I was thinking we might have wolves (were animals) and mafia in this game rather than 3p/sk as the other faction

I like your tinfoil. It would explain some of the extra night kills.

Do you have an updated reads list?

Your first one was based off of only a partial read of the game.

Any evolution in your thoughts since then?

I mean, everything is going to be based off of a partial read because I'm not going back to D1 outside of ISOs and I've read ~75% of D2. We're doing well today, I think I've read nearly everything.

Reads right now look like

Mac
Tutuu
Mayo

Miranda
MR7

SVS*
Neon*
Nate
Sloonei*
Dennis*

Seanzie*
genny
Santy

Lawpy

Stars denote players I want to take time to do iso's of because I'm ranking them more on gut feel - hence why they're mostly mid-pack so I need to sort those out more concretely. Basically slotted where it felt right on tone since I have no meta but didn't have as many obvious village points that gave me my Tutuu/Mac reads

I vibe with this list overall. I'd probably keep Miranda in the yellows for now.

[Mayo the Mayo]

Thought about doing a mini walrus and using my next broadcast for the reveal, but idk.

I’m confusion

[NateTheLesser]

I think Neon and Santy are two that I've gotten a weird vibe from, that it's like they have an artificially narrow POE..? Not sure exactly how to explain. Like this is the part of the game where a non-wolf scum faction would need to steer away from certain parts of the POE.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I have received a question that I will answer publicly.

If a faction is ever eliminated and the game does not end, I will announce that in the thread.

[S~V~S]

I just was reading something

Was it those posts you were going to pull for me? I was hoping to see them before EOD, while I’m here

[tutuu]

Thought about doing a mini walrus and using my next broadcast for the reveal, but idk.

Do it fast so we can submit lol

Coz we need to submit the songs publicly, we shouldnt PM u

Or maybe too late, could do tomorrow

But id play :P

[NateTheLesser]

Thought about doing a mini walrus and using my next broadcast for the reveal, but idk.

I’m confusion

A music game where I would pick a theme and ppl send me a song that fits the theme and then I rank them against each other and it has no bearing on anything.

[NateTheLesser]

Thought about doing a mini walrus and using my next broadcast for the reveal, but idk.

Do it fast so we can submit lol

Coz we need to submit the songs publicly, we shouldnt PM u

Or maybe too late, could do tomorrow

But id play :P

Hehe hmm, we've still got a few hours

[MacDougall]

I think Neon and Santy are two that I've gotten a weird vibe from, that it's like they have an artificially narrow POE..? Not sure exactly how to explain. Like this is the part of the game where a non-wolf scum faction would need to steer away from certain parts of the POE.

Sexy read bruh.

[tutuu]

@MacDougall @DrWilgy



workout music for next time u lift

[genny]

I am feeling nervous we haven't flipped any other faction members. At least insofar as we have no way to know when we've eliminated a faction (I assume) and that we may waste time looking for additional "partners" while the other faction gets more kill time

Factions generally get announced as defeated.

Oh well that's nice. We don't usually do that on SDN haha. Sometimes there will be hints but most times it's just like "well the game isn't over... we looking for another wolf or something else?"

Sometimes there aren't any wolves at all, just a cult that's slowly adding members

why would you say such a cursed thing?

[NateTheLesser]

SDN Crossover Mini WWereWWalrus

Theme: Creatures! Can be werecreatures, fantastical creatures, or just everyday creatures. Something that has a creature or creatures in the song title, artist name, or lyrics of the song. (No Werewolves of London please)

I'll rate them based on creature-ness and personal taste, and put the results in tonight's broadcast.

To play, reply to this or ping me with a single youtube link. Put [ url ][ /url ] tags around the link (without the spaces) so it doesn't embed, or put it in a spoiler. Honor system, but try not to look at others' submissions.

Spoiler: show

@JaggedJimmyJay
@Dubz
@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
@supershorty
@dyachei
@Lawpy
@genny
@Mayo the Mayo
@mightyrunner7
@miranda920
@santygrass
@SARdoghandler
@Dennis
@DrWilgy
@tutuu
@Kate
@MacDougall
@Neon
@S~V~S
@Seanzie
@Sloonei
@Scotty
@Animal Midwife
@pyxxy
@SportPonies
@Creature
@Zenge
@falcon45ca
@Marmot
@potentialsheltervet

[mightyrunner7]

@genny , not sure if you are caught up on anything, but how do you feel about Lawpy?

[NateTheLesser]

I am feeling nervous we haven't flipped any other faction members. At least insofar as we have no way to know when we've eliminated a faction (I assume) and that we may waste time looking for additional "partners" while the other faction gets more kill time

Factions generally get announced as defeated.

Oh well that's nice. We don't usually do that on SDN haha. Sometimes there will be hints but most times it's just like "well the game isn't over... we looking for another wolf or something else?"

Sometimes there aren't any wolves at all, just a cult that's slowly adding members

why would you say such a cursed thing?

PTSD. But there's no conversion in this game, so

[genny]

@genny , not sure if you are caught up on anything, but how do you feel about Lawpy?

mayo says he's a wolf, and it sounds like lawpy knows why but isn't telling.

[NateTheLesser]

I think Neon and Santy are two that I've gotten a weird vibe from, that it's like they have an artificially narrow POE..? Not sure exactly how to explain. Like this is the part of the game where a non-wolf scum faction would need to steer away from certain parts of the POE.

Sexy read bruh.

I don't know how real that is, but Santy focusing on Miranda (and you), and Neon focusing on Dennis. Idk. Not sure they'd really need to steer things today since it's pretty settled on Lawpy, but. Just feels like there are conflicting POE objectives somewhere.

[tutuu]

SDN Crossover Mini WWereWWalrus

Theme: Creatures! Can be werecreatures, fantastical creatures, or just everyday creatures. Something that has a creature or creatures in the song title, artist name, or lyrics of the song. (No Werewolves of London please)

I'll rate them based on creature-ness and personal taste, and put the results in tonight's broadcast.

To play, reply to this or ping me with a single youtube link. Put [ url ][ /url ] tags around the link (without the spaces) so it doesn't embed, or put it in a spoiler. Honor system, but try not to look at others' submissions.

Spoiler: show

@JaggedJimmyJay
@Dubz
@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
@supershorty
@dyachei
@Lawpy
@genny
@Mayo the Mayo
@mightyrunner7
@miranda920
@santygrass
@SARdoghandler
@Dennis
@DrWilgy
@tutuu
@Kate
@MacDougall
@Neon
@S~V~S
@Seanzie
@Sloonei
@Scotty
@Animal Midwife
@pyxxy
@SportPonies
@Creature
@Zenge
@falcon45ca
@Marmot
@potentialsheltervet

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