Summer Sh*t Day 5

[pyxxy]

busy this weekend I'll have time to play in ~12 hours ttyl

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Falcon is town

Sauce: me

[tedxtr]

can you give a few reasons?

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

I don't have good ones so uh vibes and meta

[tedxtr]

elaborating on meta is fine with me, since my recollection was that whenever he got shrug lunched in a game with me, he was wolf both the times

how do you view his meta now?

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Whenever he gets shrug limmed with me he's town lol

[tedxtr]

rofl

i guess he balanced it out xD

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Quiet barely active doesn't give a fuck falcon is usually town ime he just wolfed and actually tried I think falcon is very much the type of player who cares about not letting his pack down so he's more active when scum.

Also also he just pocketed me as wolf and I'm not sure he's try to do literally the exact same thing two games in a row. That's uh less likely to be true though.

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Is this true. Meh I dunno but it's how I've seen it.

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

He's always misexed in games with me and I always tell people not to do it lol

[pyxxy]

busy this weekend I'll have time to play in ~12 hours ttyl

schedule changed have a little time now!

[Kate]

Looking at this poll, lemon, neon, pyxxy and falcon all look the most sus to me

Why lemon and not me

My vote was like much worse, I don't exactly know when lemon voted but I was the last to join

Bc lemon said he was kidding.

[VOTE: Kate] aubergine

how did you get to your POE and explain your reasoning here
because fmpov you'd have to ignore a lot of things to get to a scumread on me

Geez. Chill. Have I been playing like I wouldn't be open to discussion?

I really hate a no u. I really hate it. Can we talk about falcon instead of unicorn tinfoil teams?

[Kate]

Whenever he gets shrug limmed with me he's town lol

I'm not sure this is a shrug lim though.

[pyxxy]

it's not really high, it's more that there are a lot of null posters who idk how to sort

dennis' early response to me was good imo and then when he started talking about you we just mindmelded hard. guess he could've pocketed me but i think his accusation was fine. the only concerning thing is his seanzie progression but idt it's too wolfy barring his explanation

pyxxy could arguably be lowered, if im being honest she's just there cuz she posted a big ass wall to camilla when she called her out and thought it was villagery lol, i know it's bad but just slapped it there lmfao. didn't even read it

i think the strength of how it comes across is not the reality. the only really strong leans are the top 5, dennis and pyxxy are heaps lower than those other reads

I mean, of course I have a different perspective, but I didn't like Dennis sussing me And I think him hopping on Seanzie with that super weak explanation was incredibly sus. I dislike.
Pyxxy on the other hand hasn't felt towny to me at all. He was unsorted for me but I went back and read his posts again and they just feel super lackluster to me. I also felt like his post to Camilla about her potentially being the NK feels forced/performative rather than genuine.

but was I wrong? I figured the thread would see what I saw about EOD and decide to clear her too, and it did, thus she died. not hard to predict

this post sounds mean but I'm writing it calm and neutrally I swear

wouldn't put it past scum me to call my shot like this but "it wasn't me" -shaggy

Thank you @Camilla you did great *high five*

Shrug

I'm still at Six/Falcon for the level 1 world, tbh.

Kind of more confident on falcon rn as his focus on Zenon kind of feels like a wolf due to the lack of worldbuilding and breadth to his reads, tbh.

is a solid last post and your solving makes sense

I'm influenced by your posts about Ted's lack of self-pres

I'm not convinced that both remaining wolves are slankers/low posters, but I think we can start our search there since we have a pretty big town core

[pyxxy]

Who is pops in this context?

Six is my husband, dennis's dad.

oh, lmao

[pyxxy]

I’m not dead. Was just ridiculously busy with work + army. I’ll be around somewhat tonight/tomorrow but at army so don’t expect much. I should be into normal swing by Monday so yay.

I did a quick skim to see who died. Good job team on mafia booo that a newbie was killed.

Quick fire thought?

1. Who has played with Camille before since I’m assuming this was first game for them here.

2. I’m cleaning Kate for the kill no other reaosns. Since not caught up. I don’t think she’d have signed off on a new player death N1

Funny that you say this. I was about to bring up who may or may not have killed her based on her status as a first time TS player but I wasn't sure if I could do that. I posed it to one of the hosts and have gotten the OK.

So, I ask the entire group, which of you have played with Camilla before and does anyone know if she goes by any other names?

never played with her afaik

[pyxxy]

Who is pops in this context?

Six is my husband, dennis's dad.

oh, lmao

great username choice on his part just passing along some claps

[pyxxy]

I'm not terribly opposed to a pyxxy vote

I think that post with the "hey pls leave a legacy" is kind of pockety and trying to be like "heeeey pal so tr me before u die k thanks bye bye"

@ this post + PSV's post above it

chopping me is reasonable and I won't stand in the way, I'll just solve in the mean time 🂮 (while also seeing what unicode this site can support)

Kate could be hard defending Six but like, that would require scum Kate and I don't believe in that world so I'm inclined to believe the tr on Six and tr Six myself for having newbie posting paralysis

falcon being mafia _again_ would be kinda wild though

[pyxxy]

@sig you've got one job and one job only

Wow dead thread is dead

I’d like @pyxxy to explain their reads

And until then I’m comfortable on Dennis.

I think he’s trying to create reasons to mafia read someone hence the Neon read.

This read is especially illogical since we all just finished a post cap game where Neon was civ and did the same excat thing so it makes zero sense for why it would be suspicious now.

I think he’s also having difficulty maneuvering around Wilgy since he has TMI

I'm not gonna argue with this but I will post the question, do you really think I would try the same thing 2 games in a row, knowing my previous mafia partners are in this game

Classic wifom I think

I don’t think you’re skilled enough at mafia yet to think about it ahead of time nor do I think you’ve got the ability to shift your meta that much yet game to game.

So yea I do think a mafia Dennis would use that as a reason to throw out a ping

(ed note: This quote is from a different previous game of Mafia, it is NOT from this current game)

^Does your reasoning for scumreading Dennis in Tongue-Tied mafia carry over to this Dennis quote below?

I'm not terribly opposed to a pyxxy vote

I think that post with the "hey pls leave a legacy" is kind of pockety and trying to be like "heeeey pal so tr me before u die k thanks bye bye"

[VOTE: Dennis] aubergine

[pyxxy]

Dennis - I went and read his ISO in Tongue-Tied Mafia (https://mafiathesyndicate.com/search.ph ... 114&t=2498)
I haven't found scum Dennis yet and he's correct to be afraid of scum pyxxy. But something about the way he brought it up this game feels off.
falcon - I'm sheeping Neon's tr on falcon
Kate - towncore from VCA
Lemonfairy - same as Dennis I went and read Lemon's ISO and what pinged me in that game got resolved later by Lemon kicking the solving into high gear which I see here, townread
Neon - townread, I don't get the feeling that she's trying to push someone, if this is a bad reason I'll townlean but I'm inclined to trust her
potentialsheltervet - I townlean but I don't have a good justification for it, but I feel relatively confidnet in it, need to revisit for sure
sig - I have faith that sig will come solve when the time arises thus my tag prompt post
SixStrings - willing to townlean for now based on Kate's read
staypositivefriend - clear from VCA
tedxtr - agreed with camilla(?) that ted's solving feels honest but I can't go past a townlean here bc I think I fake solving in a similar manner when I'm scum

I'm wrong about at least 1 person if not two but I'm out of time see y'all around

[falcon45ca]

Oh sweet, Neon is still town.






Let the summer sheep continue

have your reads changed at all w/the seanzie flip?

I have 1 read, it is unchanged

[falcon45ca]

[VOTE: PSV] aubergine

[Kate]

Falcon, it's very hard to get an idea of your alignment if this is all you do. I don't want to mislynch you. Can you give us anything to go on?

[Kate]

Falcon, it's very hard to get an idea of your alignment if this is all you do. I don't want to mislynch you. Can you give us anything to go on?

@falcon45ca

[potentialsheltervet]

@Neon You said you weren't going to pursue a PSV vote when other people weren't super interested, and now you're voting me. What changed?

[potentialsheltervet]

Quiet barely active doesn't give a fuck falcon is usually town ime he just wolfed and actually tried I think falcon is very much the type of player who cares about not letting his pack down so he's more active when scum.

Also also he just pocketed me as wolf and I'm not sure he's try to do literally the exact same thing two games in a row. That's uh less likely to be true though.

I'm TRing Falcon this game tbh but I think it's important to note there was an extensive discussion of his meta last game (at least, my last game? The crossover game.) so it's not unreasonable to think he might be aware and switch it up.

[Kate]

Quiet barely active doesn't give a fuck falcon is usually town ime he just wolfed and actually tried I think falcon is very much the type of player who cares about not letting his pack down so he's more active when scum.

Also also he just pocketed me as wolf and I'm not sure he's try to do literally the exact same thing two games in a row. That's uh less likely to be true though.

I'm TRing Falcon this game tbh but I think it's important to note there was an extensive discussion of his meta last game (at least, my last game? The crossover game.) so it's not unreasonable to think he might be aware and switch it up.

The more I think about it, town falcon would not come in see votes on him and just jet. I'm leaving my vote where it is.

I'd like to hear from @Neon and @Dennis re: falcon.

[Dennis]

@sig you've got one job and one job only

Wow dead thread is dead

I’d like @pyxxy to explain their reads

And until then I’m comfortable on Dennis.

I think he’s trying to create reasons to mafia read someone hence the Neon read.

This read is especially illogical since we all just finished a post cap game where Neon was civ and did the same excat thing so it makes zero sense for why it would be suspicious now.

I think he’s also having difficulty maneuvering around Wilgy since he has TMI

I'm not gonna argue with this but I will post the question, do you really think I would try the same thing 2 games in a row, knowing my previous mafia partners are in this game

Classic wifom I think

I don’t think you’re skilled enough at mafia yet to think about it ahead of time nor do I think you’ve got the ability to shift your meta that much yet game to game.

So yea I do think a mafia Dennis would use that as a reason to throw out a ping

(ed note: This quote is from a different previous game of Mafia, it is NOT from this current game)

^Does your reasoning for scumreading Dennis in Tongue-Tied mafia carry over to this Dennis quote below?

I'm not terribly opposed to a pyxxy vote

I think that post with the "hey pls leave a legacy" is kind of pockety and trying to be like "heeeey pal so tr me before u die k thanks bye bye"

[VOTE: Dennis] aubergine

How does his suspicion in that game carry over to this one

[Dennis]

Quiet barely active doesn't give a fuck falcon is usually town ime he just wolfed and actually tried I think falcon is very much the type of player who cares about not letting his pack down so he's more active when scum.

Also also he just pocketed me as wolf and I'm not sure he's try to do literally the exact same thing two games in a row. That's uh less likely to be true though.

I'm TRing Falcon this game tbh but I think it's important to note there was an extensive discussion of his meta last game (at least, my last game? The crossover game.) so it's not unreasonable to think he might be aware and switch it up.

The more I think about it, town falcon would not come in see votes on him and just jet. I'm leaving my vote where it is.

I'd like to hear from @Neon and @Dennis re: falcon.

He's giving such little of a shit that I'm not opposed to a kill on him, but I don't outright scumread him

Like as 4 people brought up already he tries harder as scum, and he's straight up absent here. Which I don't have too hard of a time seeing as him trying to overexaggerate, but that sounds like a tinfoil that would easily lead to a miselim

Hedgy nonsense TLDR, we COULD kill him and he'd have an OK chance at being mafia but like, it's kind of a shrug. Why do you want to kill him

[Kate]

Quiet barely active doesn't give a fuck falcon is usually town ime he just wolfed and actually tried I think falcon is very much the type of player who cares about not letting his pack down so he's more active when scum.

Also also he just pocketed me as wolf and I'm not sure he's try to do literally the exact same thing two games in a row. That's uh less likely to be true though.

I'm TRing Falcon this game tbh but I think it's important to note there was an extensive discussion of his meta last game (at least, my last game? The crossover game.) so it's not unreasonable to think he might be aware and switch it up.

The more I think about it, town falcon would not come in see votes on him and just jet. I'm leaving my vote where it is.

I'd like to hear from @Neon and @Dennis re: falcon.

He's giving such little of a shit that I'm not opposed to a kill on him, but I don't outright scumread him

Like as 4 people brought up already he tries harder as scum, and he's straight up absent here. Which I don't have too hard of a time seeing as him trying to overexaggerate, but that sounds like a tinfoil that would easily lead to a miselim

Hedgy nonsense TLDR, we COULD kill him and he'd have an OK chance at being mafia but like, it's kind of a shrug. Why do you want to kill him

Because I think he's wolfy. Have you read my posts? Where's the falcon town fire? It's absent. Where's his defense at being voted? It's absent.

Y9ur post was waffly, kid.

[Lemonfairy]

Looking at this poll, lemon, neon, pyxxy and falcon all look the most sus to me

Why lemon and not me

My vote was like much worse, I don't exactly know when lemon voted but I was the last to join

Bc lemon said he was kidding.

[VOTE: Kate] aubergine

how did you get to your POE and explain your reasoning here
because fmpov you'd have to ignore a lot of things to get to a scumread on me

Geez. Chill. Have I been playing like I wouldn't be open to discussion?

I really hate a no u. I really hate it. Can we talk about falcon instead of unicorn tinfoil teams?

I am chill and this isn't just a "no u"
I'm happy to talk about falcon but can you answer how you got to that POE first?

[Lemonfairy]

and if it wasn't clear from my phrasing, I'm definitely not locked in on the team or anything

[Kate]

[VOTE: psv ] aubergine

nothing personal

Whoa




Kinda sounds personal

Hi. Why are you sheeping neon?

Neon is supremely town Neon.





There are a few signs I've learned to look for...like, she might be fakin' it? But nah

Do you think her being towny means she is automatically correct?

No, but if she's town, then her heart is in the right place.






Why are you being SR? Immma check yer ISO, hold up

Oh I see, it's full of fluff

2 minutes do make such a firm read on psv.

Pockets neon.

[Kate]

Looking at this poll, lemon, neon, pyxxy and falcon all look the most sus to me

Why lemon and not me

My vote was like much worse, I don't exactly know when lemon voted but I was the last to join

Bc lemon said he was kidding.

[VOTE: Kate] aubergine

how did you get to your POE and explain your reasoning here
because fmpov you'd have to ignore a lot of things to get to a scumread on me

Geez. Chill. Have I been playing like I wouldn't be open to discussion?

I really hate a no u. I really hate it. Can we talk about falcon instead of unicorn tinfoil teams?

I am chill and this isn't just a "no u"
I'm happy to talk about falcon but can you answer how you got to that POE first?

Yes, I looked at the list (poll names) and put down the names I didn't have a town read on. Your response to my including you has seemed more towny than not though, and I'm glad to hear you're chill frustration usually reads as townie to me.

[staypositivefriend]

[VOTE: PSV] aubergine

why?

[staypositivefriend]

I'm not terribly opposed to a pyxxy vote

I think that post with the "hey pls leave a legacy" is kind of pockety and trying to be like "heeeey pal so tr me before u die k thanks bye bye"

@ this post + PSV's post above it

chopping me is reasonable and I won't stand in the way, I'll just solve in the mean time 🂮 (while also seeing what unicode this site can support)

Kate could be hard defending Six but like, that would require scum Kate and I don't believe in that world so I'm inclined to believe the tr on Six and tr Six myself for having newbie posting paralysis

falcon being mafia _again_ would be kinda wild though

ftr this post makes me not want to kill pyxxy today

[staypositivefriend]

@Kate -

also fwiw im pretty confident that lemonfairy is town based on how she reacted to seanzie being wagoned at the end of yesterday, i really struggle to see a wolf reacting like that to their partner being wagoned

[Kate]

Quiet barely active doesn't give a fuck falcon is usually town ime he just wolfed and actually tried I think falcon is very much the type of player who cares about not letting his pack down so he's more active when scum.

Also also he just pocketed me as wolf and I'm not sure he's try to do literally the exact same thing two games in a row. That's uh less likely to be true though.

I'd ask you to reconsider your thoughts here.
Town falcon is more aggressive and solvy. Wolf falcon become aggressive later game and starts making fake arguments. Read his iso, it won't take long. There is absolutely nothing about psv that would make him have such a firm read. He's doing the same thing seanzie did day 1 with me as the target.

And he's definitely pocketing you.

[Kate]

@Kate -

also fwiw im pretty confident that lemonfairy is town based on how she reacted to seanzie being wagoned at the end of yesterday, i really struggle to see a wolf reacting like that to their partner being wagoned

I will officially remove lemonfairy from my POE.

[Kate]

I'm not terribly opposed to a pyxxy vote

I think that post with the "hey pls leave a legacy" is kind of pockety and trying to be like "heeeey pal so tr me before u die k thanks bye bye"

@ this post + PSV's post above it

chopping me is reasonable and I won't stand in the way, I'll just solve in the mean time 🂮 (while also seeing what unicode this site can support)

Kate could be hard defending Six but like, that would require scum Kate and I don't believe in that world so I'm inclined to believe the tr on Six and tr Six myself for having newbie posting paralysis

falcon being mafia _again_ would be kinda wild though

ftr this post makes me not want to kill pyxxy today

Same.

[staypositivefriend]

I disagree with Neon's read on me, obviously, but I think the tunnel at least feels sincere. Ted clinging to my wagon feels much more ho-hum. Like they're just doing it to seem productive.

how is placing naked votes on you being productive?

also, i probably posted thoughts on at least 5-6 other different people. how can you believe this xD


anyway, the day is shaping up to be exactly what i expected it to. just wanted to say i disagree with the villa reads on psv, spf's point doesn't hold much water to me when most of the "heat" psv has gotten was from n0 and from two people, one of which was sheeping and the other didn't hard push them afaict and most of their posts could easily be faked by a wolf. idk where the villagery posts are. i wanna see some thoughts from them on players

i'll probably end up voting someone like kate / sixstring if it becomes a thing just because i have a tough time finding someone actively wolfy. i think seanzie fell off a very big cliff in terms of aggressiveness / solving after n0 fwiw

or if i have the time to re-read again, i might do a spicy vote who knows

whatever

between camilla / spf for lategame when they'll get tinfoiled, i think camilla is villagerier than spf

seanzie fell off a cliff but idt it looks too bad if sig / six / psv have 2 wolves. if the wolves are more active, his change in play is a bit suspicious cuz he went from being aggressive to being cordial and diplomatic in how he reached reads at a point in the game where we were focused on the low posting people and he could've skated on his aggression

kate / dennis / pyxxy's postings are fine, dennis prob my top villa (funny how life goes)

lemonfairy had a few villagery posts but the bar is low to be confident on it

the rest i have no clue about

i'd be shooting psv if i had a means to, prob my most "confident" read

pretty concerned that ted could be a wolf after looking through this progression on seanzie tbh

he talked around seanzie a lot and talked a lot about how he was playing in a scummy/demotivated way, but always prioritized resolving within sig/six/psv first. not difficult to see as a wolf trying to get distance from their partner without actually getting seanzie eliminated

[staypositivefriend]

[VOTE: tedxtr] aubergine

dumb read but it's proly not an easy world like sixstrings/ted solely for the reason that six parked his vote on ted here, and i kind of doubt that he does that to his partner, especially if he is new to the game like kate/dennis have been saying

[staypositivefriend]

@sig - wya?

[Kate]

@sig - wya?

I'd looooovvvvve to get some @sig insight here!

[Kate]

[VOTE: tedxtr] aubergine

dumb read but it's proly not an easy world like sixstrings/ted solely for the reason that six parked his vote on ted here, and i kind of doubt that he does that to his partner, especially if he is new to the game like kate/dennis have been saying

I really doubt he's got any guidance here.

I also think we have enough solid suspects that it's not worth wasting a lynch on newbie low posters.

[staypositivefriend]

for transparency my current POE is falcon, sixstrings, sig, and ted

i think if we live in an easy world, the remaining wolves are in that pool

in a harder world, there's proly one wolf in that pool and one wolf outside of it, but i'm struggling to see who that would be. i think kate and lemonfairy are both hard town. i've gotten quite a few townpings from both PSV and pxy to the extent that i'm not comfortable having them in my POE

i've gotten townpings from both neon/dennis as well but i suppose i feel the less strongly about them than my other townreads, so if i'm misclearing somewhere then my gut tells me it's proly in those two names

[staypositivefriend]

[VOTE: tedxtr] aubergine

dumb read but it's proly not an easy world like sixstrings/ted solely for the reason that six parked his vote on ted here, and i kind of doubt that he does that to his partner, especially if he is new to the game like kate/dennis have been saying

I really doubt he's got any guidance here.

I also think we have enough solid suspects that it's not worth wasting a lynch on newbie low posters.

i agree that it seems like sixstrings doesnt have any guidance but given that several players have consistently been AWOL/afk, i'm not sure if i would take that to be indicative of his alignment

[staypositivefriend]

that said i don't think sixstrings needs to be the first in my POE to be resolved, especially if you think he'll contribute or post more later

[Kate]

I also don't think sig should be in there. Hang on I want to pull a quote.

[Kate]

I’m not dead. Was just ridiculously busy with work + army. I’ll be around somewhat tonight/tomorrow but at army so don’t expect much. I should be into normal swing by Monday so yay.

I did a quick skim to see who died. Good job team on mafia booo that a newbie was killed.

Quick fire thought?

1. Who has played with Camille before since I’m assuming this was first game for them here.

2. I’m cleaning Kate for the kill no other reaosns. Since not caught up. I don’t think she’d have signed off on a new player death N1

He's absolutely right that I would never nk a new site player on n1. I actually assumed it would be me simply bc Camilla is new.

With that in mind, I really doubt sig would say this about me bc he's mentioning a point of etiquette or sportsmanship, which he'd essentially be saying he doesn't have If he's wolf himself. Lol. Make sense? Why would he mention it at all if he's a wolf? I don't think he would.

Plus I don't think Sig would kill Camilla n1 either, but he definitely would kill me