[WOLF WIN] Apathy Mafia

[Jackofhearts2005]

@Roxy halp

[Camilla]

Why can’t ya’ll just only vote for wolves like me?

You also voted for Falcon.

I just don't see the point here being that everyone except Alison/Wigly/Roxy here has not voted a flipped wolf by the EoD, and I have both Alison/Roxy as my strongest V-reads.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Why can’t ya’ll just only vote for wolves like me?

You also voted for Falcon.

I just don't see the point here being that everyone except Alison/Wigly/Roxy here has not voted a flipped wolf by the EoD, and I have both Alison/Roxy as my strongest V-reads.

That’s the joke, yes.

[Jackofhearts2005]

I’m not making a point. I’m reacting to stimuli.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Why are we still talking about something that is not game related and doesn't matter?

it obv matters as it keeps getting brought up so I respond accordingly.

No. It really doesn't. It needs to fucking die and get buried 6 feet under.

It is so unbelievably useless PJ doesn't care. It's not AI. It doesn't need to be a discussion here.

I’m actually very offended.

[Jackofhearts2005]

For the record, I think the only way tutuu or Zenon are bad is if they’re both bad. Which is quite entirely possible, but not an avenue im even going to walk down because it’s got 4 houses and it’s about to be upgraded to a hotel and I can’t afford that shit

This is good shit.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Yeah, I don't see Aliso/tutuu/neon not containing a wolf

[VOTE: tutuu] aubergine

If it does its Alison

[Jackofhearts2005]

Maybe if we all say Prince J three times while holding a candle and looking into a bathroom mirror in the dark, he’ll come out to play

Prince J

Prince J

Prince J

Unleash your secret killer move !

[Jackofhearts2005]

@~Prince J~ WAKE THE HELL UP AND COME POST YOU LITTLE FISH NUGGET OR ELSE I'LL DUNK ON YOU SO HARD THAT EVEN YOUR GREAT-GRANDCHILDREN WON'T BE ABLE TO PLAY BASKETBALL FROM THE PTSD I'LL GIVE YOU!

[Jackofhearts2005]

I'm tired and sick and distracted for IRL reasons so I won't post by post react but my general sentiment upon reading is that people are putting on tinfoil hats way too quickly after a d1 pelt

Porscha was caught early and went down without a fight. She complained about afks. The mafia team is prolly not in control and likely have at least one if not two passive players in it.

Everyone has different views on who to trust but thats fine. Just look at the people with no compelling reasons to trust them and play a straight poe game. Wagoning people like tutuu is trolling hard

Falcon and rondo have no reason to be trusted

Prince J has the "porscha would have pinged him to play in wolf chat" but maybe he was genuinely busy IRL and couldnt regardless

Just kill in one of these ig

I started off suspecting zenon but dont think shes the right kill d2, even if shes mafia shes townsiding right now and has a partner to be caught

roxy is bleeding town even if her reads/playstyle are questionable

It could be wilgy. Maybe he just didnt take credit for the bus because he was genuinely afk and didnt feel like playing

I still think pyxxy is townie

The list is almost entirely wrong but I still love this series of posts and it makes me want to kill Wilgy because the idea is right but the players except Wilgy are just town.

And I don’t think it’s Scotty, either. Based on this and Scotty’s posts wrt his turnaround on Roxy D2.

[Jackofhearts2005]

My current solve is Wilgy and Camilla. But that’s like a fancy pants threadstate+poe read. Pyxxy is still a possibility but I kinda think that if the wolf team is dead Porscha and non impactful Wilgy, like at what point does Pyxxy drop the gd gimmick? Probably earlier. I know this is easy to fake but still.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Gah, I love postcapless games.

[Jackofhearts2005]

The natural state of things. Jack talking to himself.

[Camilla]

My current solve is Wilgy and Camilla. But that’s like a fancy pants threadstate+poe read. Pyxxy is still a possibility but I kinda think that if the wolf team is dead Porscha and non impactful Wilgy, like at what point does Pyxxy drop the gd gimmick? Probably earlier. I know this is easy to fake but still.

...didn't your previous solve include Pyxxy?

What happened with it?

[Jackofhearts2005]

I have not reviewed the linked game in detail but if it is true that Porscha is no longer volume polarized then it she is actually kind of scummy... the noise to signal ratio is really bad

it isn't my fault that half the people who signed up aren't playing and the other half are actually roleplaying the title of the game.

Who do you think is mafia?

I dont care if pyxxy dies the most but until wilgy / camilla / falcon make any real posts it's hard to sort the people who are posting

Does Porscha say this if I’m right?

Probably.

[Jackofhearts2005]

My current solve is Wilgy and Camilla. But that’s like a fancy pants threadstate+poe read. Pyxxy is still a possibility but I kinda think that if the wolf team is dead Porscha and non impactful Wilgy, like at what point does Pyxxy drop the gd gimmick? Probably earlier. I know this is easy to fake but still.

...didn't your previous solve include Pyxxy?

What happened with it?

You’re quoting it.

[Camilla]

My current solve is Wilgy and Camilla. But that’s like a fancy pants threadstate+poe read. Pyxxy is still a possibility but I kinda think that if the wolf team is dead Porscha and non impactful Wilgy, like at what point does Pyxxy drop the gd gimmick? Probably earlier. I know this is easy to fake but still.

...didn't your previous solve include Pyxxy?

What happened with it?

You’re quoting it.

Who's more likely?

Which team fits better? Me/Pyxxy, Me/Wilgy, or Wilgy/Pyxxy?

[pyxxy]

.......fuck it............................[VOTE: wilgy] aubergine.......

.......wanted.......to see..............how much.......whim..............would be.......expended.......

..............that's.......a passing.......grade.......

[pyxxy]

.......I killed the vibes .......I mean..............oh well.......haha.......

[Camilla]

Jack/Scotty fits in better as teammates with Wilgy than Pyxxy. I don't think Pyxxy/Wilgy would spend the entire game trying to hellbus each other like this, tbh.

Most likely Jack as I liked Scotty's paranoia on me while Jack's push on me kind of just feels like he's piggy-backing on Roxy's paranoia than actually doing anything to move the game-state forward.

[Jackofhearts2005]

My current solve is Wilgy and Camilla. But that’s like a fancy pants threadstate+poe read. Pyxxy is still a possibility but I kinda think that if the wolf team is dead Porscha and non impactful Wilgy, like at what point does Pyxxy drop the gd gimmick? Probably earlier. I know this is easy to fake but still.

...didn't your previous solve include Pyxxy?

What happened with it?

You’re quoting it.

Who's more likely?

Which team fits better? Me/Pyxxy, Me/Wilgy, or Wilgy/Pyxxy?

Dunno.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Jack/Scotty fits in better as teammates with Wilgy than Pyxxy. I don't think Pyxxy/Wilgy would spend the entire game trying to hellbus each other like this, tbh.

Most likely Jack as I liked Scotty's paranoia on me while Jack's push on me kind of just feels like he's piggy-backing on Roxy's paranoia than actually doing anything to move the game-state forward.

Lul

Classic wolf Jack tactic. Sheep paranoia of low end poster from two days ago.

Moving to a three player poe is moving the gamestate forward. You just don’t like where I’m moving it.

[Camilla]

Jack/Scotty fits in better as teammates with Wilgy than Pyxxy. I don't think Pyxxy/Wilgy would spend the entire game trying to hellbus each other like this, tbh.

Most likely Jack as I liked Scotty's paranoia on me while Jack's push on me kind of just feels like he's piggy-backing on Roxy's paranoia than actually doing anything to move the game-state forward.

Lul

Classic wolf Jack tactic. Sheep paranoia of low end poster from two days ago.

Moving to a three player poe is moving the gamestate forward. You just don’t like where I’m moving it.

What about Alison/Scotty/Roxy?

There's been very little suspicion on me and you only started turning on me the moment the latter two started to do so.

[Camilla]

Jack/Scotty fits in better as teammates with Wilgy than Pyxxy. I don't think Pyxxy/Wilgy would spend the entire game trying to hellbus each other like this, tbh.

Most likely Jack as I liked Scotty's paranoia on me while Jack's push on me kind of just feels like he's piggy-backing on Roxy's paranoia than actually doing anything to move the game-state forward.

Lul

Classic wolf Jack tactic. Sheep paranoia of low end poster from two days ago.

Moving to a three player poe is moving the gamestate forward. You just don’t like where I’m moving it.

What about Alison/Scotty/Roxy?

There's been very little suspicion on me and you only started turning on me the moment the latter two started to do so.

Suspicion on them, as I meant the three ones. Why me over Scotty/Alison since we've basically been roughly in the same tier until Roxy/Scotty began tinfoiling me.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Jack/Scotty fits in better as teammates with Wilgy than Pyxxy. I don't think Pyxxy/Wilgy would spend the entire game trying to hellbus each other like this, tbh.

Most likely Jack as I liked Scotty's paranoia on me while Jack's push on me kind of just feels like he's piggy-backing on Roxy's paranoia than actually doing anything to move the game-state forward.

Lul

Classic wolf Jack tactic. Sheep paranoia of low end poster from two days ago.

Moving to a three player poe is moving the gamestate forward. You just don’t like where I’m moving it.

What about Alison/Scotty/Roxy?

There's been very little suspicion on me and you only started turning on me the moment the latter two started to do so.

Town/ProbablyTown/Town

I just like fifty posted in a row and you’re accusing me of sheeping the reads others? There’s no others around…

[Camilla]

Jack/Scotty fits in better as teammates with Wilgy than Pyxxy. I don't think Pyxxy/Wilgy would spend the entire game trying to hellbus each other like this, tbh.

Most likely Jack as I liked Scotty's paranoia on me while Jack's push on me kind of just feels like he's piggy-backing on Roxy's paranoia than actually doing anything to move the game-state forward.

Lul

Classic wolf Jack tactic. Sheep paranoia of low end poster from two days ago.

Moving to a three player poe is moving the gamestate forward. You just don’t like where I’m moving it.

What about Alison/Scotty/Roxy?

There's been very little suspicion on me and you only started turning on me the moment the latter two started to do so.

Town/ProbablyTown/Town

I just like fifty posted in a row and you’re accusing me of sheeping the reads others? There’s no others around…

I meant that you only became suspicious of me after the threadstate put me in the PoE such as with Scotty and Roxy being paranoid of me.

Not something that exclusively comes from wolves but yeah.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Jack/Scotty fits in better as teammates with Wilgy than Pyxxy. I don't think Pyxxy/Wilgy would spend the entire game trying to hellbus each other like this, tbh.

Most likely Jack as I liked Scotty's paranoia on me while Jack's push on me kind of just feels like he's piggy-backing on Roxy's paranoia than actually doing anything to move the game-state forward.

Lul

Classic wolf Jack tactic. Sheep paranoia of low end poster from two days ago.

Moving to a three player poe is moving the gamestate forward. You just don’t like where I’m moving it.

What about Alison/Scotty/Roxy?

There's been very little suspicion on me and you only started turning on me the moment the latter two started to do so.

Suspicion on them, as I meant the three ones. Why me over Scotty/Alison since we've basically been roughly in the same tier until Roxy/Scotty began tinfoiling me.

It’s not about tiers. It’s about Scotty and Alison doing things I expect Scotty and Alison to do as townies and of the three of you, you’ve got the wolfiest reactions, specifically towards Roxy when contrasted with Alison and Scotty and towards me when contrasted with Alison.

[Camilla]

Jack/Scotty fits in better as teammates with Wilgy than Pyxxy. I don't think Pyxxy/Wilgy would spend the entire game trying to hellbus each other like this, tbh.

Most likely Jack as I liked Scotty's paranoia on me while Jack's push on me kind of just feels like he's piggy-backing on Roxy's paranoia than actually doing anything to move the game-state forward.

Lul

Classic wolf Jack tactic. Sheep paranoia of low end poster from two days ago.

Moving to a three player poe is moving the gamestate forward. You just don’t like where I’m moving it.

What about Alison/Scotty/Roxy?

There's been very little suspicion on me and you only started turning on me the moment the latter two started to do so.

Suspicion on them, as I meant the three ones. Why me over Scotty/Alison since we've basically been roughly in the same tier until Roxy/Scotty began tinfoiling me.

It’s not about tiers. It’s about Scotty and Alison doing things I expect Scotty and Alison to do as townies and of the three of you, you’ve got the wolfiest reactions, specifically towards Roxy when contrasted with Alison and Scotty and towards me when contrasted with Alison.

I want you to go deeper here.

If Scotty/Alison were wolves then how would you really expect them to act?

[Jackofhearts2005]

Jack/Scotty fits in better as teammates with Wilgy than Pyxxy. I don't think Pyxxy/Wilgy would spend the entire game trying to hellbus each other like this, tbh.

Most likely Jack as I liked Scotty's paranoia on me while Jack's push on me kind of just feels like he's piggy-backing on Roxy's paranoia than actually doing anything to move the game-state forward.

Lul

Classic wolf Jack tactic. Sheep paranoia of low end poster from two days ago.

Moving to a three player poe is moving the gamestate forward. You just don’t like where I’m moving it.

What about Alison/Scotty/Roxy?

There's been very little suspicion on me and you only started turning on me the moment the latter two started to do so.

Town/ProbablyTown/Town

I just like fifty posted in a row and you’re accusing me of sheeping the reads others? There’s no others around…

I meant that you only became suspicious of me after the threadstate put me in the PoE such as with Scotty and Roxy being paranoid of me.

Not something that exclusively comes from wolves but yeah.

Fiddle faddle and rot. Roxy has only posted once today and she was like “I need to sort Jack.” The idea that I waited until Roxy pushed you into the poe is absurd.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Jack/Scotty fits in better as teammates with Wilgy than Pyxxy. I don't think Pyxxy/Wilgy would spend the entire game trying to hellbus each other like this, tbh.

Most likely Jack as I liked Scotty's paranoia on me while Jack's push on me kind of just feels like he's piggy-backing on Roxy's paranoia than actually doing anything to move the game-state forward.

Lul

Classic wolf Jack tactic. Sheep paranoia of low end poster from two days ago.

Moving to a three player poe is moving the gamestate forward. You just don’t like where I’m moving it.

What about Alison/Scotty/Roxy?

There's been very little suspicion on me and you only started turning on me the moment the latter two started to do so.

Suspicion on them, as I meant the three ones. Why me over Scotty/Alison since we've basically been roughly in the same tier until Roxy/Scotty began tinfoiling me.

It’s not about tiers. It’s about Scotty and Alison doing things I expect Scotty and Alison to do as townies and of the three of you, you’ve got the wolfiest reactions, specifically towards Roxy when contrasted with Alison and Scotty and towards me when contrasted with Alison.

I want you to go deeper here.

If Scotty/Alison were wolves then how would you really expect them to act?

[Jackofhearts2005]

Alternative joke: that’s what she….said?

[Scotty]

My favorite part about reading back the last few pages is how in depth jack has been and bringing a bunch of original thoughts to the table

And still not voting

[Scotty]

So consensus seems to be Wilgy as bad? It’s a surprise but I can dig it.

[Scotty]

[VOTE: Jack] aubergine

[Jackofhearts2005]

My favorite part about reading back the last few pages is how in depth jack has been and bringing a bunch of original thoughts to the table

And still not voting

[VOTE: Jack] aubergine

Are these posts related? Go back and read any of my town games and you'll see that I average like 1 or 2 votes a phase and don't vote until I either am sure of who I want dead or until it's getting near EOD.

[Scotty]

I know Camilla said mafia doesn’t vote for their RB and bounce, but I just painstakingly read through D1 again…this is what I see.

I first voted for pyxxy early.
Porscha ‘parks’ her vote on pyxxy at the 24 hour mark:

i'm parking vote on pyxxy until he play game

google says I have to vote her in a mafia game as punishment so if pyxxy ever comes back today then you all know what I am doing next

so here, I think she is referring to tutuu, her pet clown.

Here’s the rub- pyxxy DOES show up and makes posts and reads, and Porscha NEVER mentions pyxxy again, or even interacts with pyxxy. That’s bonkers to me.

Porscha made her last post at 1:20p, almost 4 hours before eod.
At this time, Wilgy had just voted for her a few hours before, in an apparent 3-3 porscha/Wilgy tie, to make it 4-3. Tutuu tied it up again an hour before EoD.

It wasn’t until then that pyxxy showed up to make a flurry of desperate posts, where he ultimately (almost begrudgingly) self preserved onto Porscha.

So in terms of optics:
-Porscha seemingly forgot about her pyxxy vote, or else made a conscious decision not to come back to it, but at the same time, Porscha was in the lead 4-3 when she bounced. If pyxxy is her partner, what difference would voting elsewhere accomplish?
-Wilgy, as his 3rd post and with no reasoning, votes for Porscha. If pyxxy is bad, Wilgy voting for Porscha almost takes away all cred I was giving him for that vote.

This all just further reaffirms that I think pyxxy is bad. And if pyxxy is bad, Wilgy totally fits.

Oof I need to get out of my tunnel. I’m definitely in a tunnel right now and am having trouble not just confbiasing myself

[Scotty]

Now what if pyxxy is good? And let’s go with wilgy as bad.

Why does a bad Wilgy vote for his partner in D1? He had no reads before voting; so he could have easily gone for pyxxy to break the tie.

Two thoughts:
1) he assumed that pyxxy would self preserve and Porscha was going over anyway, so he went for cred
2) Porscha had gotten her pink slip at that point and was in full anti spew, so she told her partner to do his thing for cred

Both could be possible.

The placement of his vote is not as steadfast towny as previously believed

[Scotty]

If pyxxy is partners with Wilgy, I scratch my head at how Wilgy firmly was in the camp of falcon good, pyxxy bad. I mean, it could just be that falcon was going over regardless so it was just firm-sounding words.

But then he comes into today basically with ‘we need to resolve pyxxy/Scotty, and I think Scotty is good’

Like, what kind of strategy is that from your partner? It’s a bit less believable to me

Yeah, yikes, I think I’m coming around on an angle where I can easily see Wilgy having an agenda, and I’m not as sure with his partner being pyxxy.

[VOTE: drwilgy] aubergine

[Camilla]

Now what if pyxxy is good? And let’s go with wilgy as bad.

Why does a bad Wilgy vote for his partner in D1? He had no reads before voting; so he could have easily gone for pyxxy to break the tie.

Two thoughts:
1) he assumed that pyxxy would self preserve and Porscha was going over anyway, so he went for cred
2) Porscha had gotten her pink slip at that point and was in full anti spew, so she told her partner to do his thing for cred

Both could be possible.

The placement of his vote is not as steadfast towny as previously believed

Wasn't the main wagons Pyxxy/Porscha when Wilgy voted? If Pyxxy is a wolf then it kind of doesn't really matter who voted then aside from interactions as in those wagons a wolf would always go over.

[Camilla]

If pyxxy is partners with Wilgy, I scratch my head at how Wilgy firmly was in the camp of falcon good, pyxxy bad. I mean, it could just be that falcon was going over regardless so it was just firm-sounding words.

But then he comes into today basically with ‘we need to resolve pyxxy/Scotty, and I think Scotty is good’

Like, what kind of strategy is that from your partner? It’s a bit less believable to me

Yeah, yikes, I think I’m coming around on an angle where I can easily see Wilgy having an agenda, and I’m not as sure with his partner being pyxxy.

[VOTE: drwilgy] aubergine

I kind of don't think that D3's vote actually means much in the long run since on D3 it was pretty much guaranteed that falcon would've gone over.

Wilgy's posts today have been odd but he also hasn't really tried to push Pyxxy at all as I don't remember him casing or putting a vote on them.

[Scotty]

If pyxxy is partners with Wilgy, I scratch my head at how Wilgy firmly was in the camp of falcon good, pyxxy bad. I mean, it could just be that falcon was going over regardless so it was just firm-sounding words.

But then he comes into today basically with ‘we need to resolve pyxxy/Scotty, and I think Scotty is good’

Like, what kind of strategy is that from your partner? It’s a bit less believable to me

Yeah, yikes, I think I’m coming around on an angle where I can easily see Wilgy having an agenda, and I’m not as sure with his partner being pyxxy.

[VOTE: drwilgy] aubergine

I kind of don't think that D3's vote actually means much in the long run since on D3 it was pretty much guaranteed that falcon would've gone over.

Wilgy's posts today have been odd but he also hasn't really tried to push Pyxxy at all as I don't remember him casing or putting a vote on them.

Actually, Wilgy voted for pyxxy in thread about 12 hours ago, but didn’t vote in the poll.

And gunning for pyxxy is basically all Wilgy has done today

[Scotty]

I currently see a world of jack/wilgy

[Jackofhearts2005]

I currently see a world of jack/wilgy

Him first.

[Jackofhearts2005]

I know Camilla said mafia doesn’t vote for their RB and bounce, but I just painstakingly read through D1 again…this is what I see.

I first voted for pyxxy early.
Porscha ‘parks’ her vote on pyxxy at the 24 hour mark:

i'm parking vote on pyxxy until he play game

google says I have to vote her in a mafia game as punishment so if pyxxy ever comes back today then you all know what I am doing next

so here, I think she is referring to tutuu, her pet clown.

Here’s the rub- pyxxy DOES show up and makes posts and reads, and Porscha NEVER mentions pyxxy again, or even interacts with pyxxy. That’s bonkers to me.

Porscha made her last post at 1:20p, almost 4 hours before eod.
At this time, Wilgy had just voted for her a few hours before, in an apparent 3-3 porscha/Wilgy tie, to make it 4-3. Tutuu tied it up again an hour before EoD.

It wasn’t until then that pyxxy showed up to make a flurry of desperate posts, where he ultimately (almost begrudgingly) self preserved onto Porscha.

So in terms of optics:
-Porscha seemingly forgot about her pyxxy vote, or else made a conscious decision not to come back to it, but at the same time, Porscha was in the lead 4-3 when she bounced. If pyxxy is her partner, what difference would voting elsewhere accomplish?
-Wilgy, as his 3rd post and with no reasoning, votes for Porscha. If pyxxy is bad, Wilgy voting for Porscha almost takes away all cred I was giving him for that vote.

This all just further reaffirms that I think pyxxy is bad. And if pyxxy is bad, Wilgy totally fits.

Oof I need to get out of my tunnel. I’m definitely in a tunnel right now and am having trouble not just confbiasing myself

This is what I was wanting Camella to give me.

Wilgy/Pyxxy/Camilla is a winning poe.

[Jackofhearts2005]

If pyxxy is partners with Wilgy, I scratch my head at how Wilgy firmly was in the camp of falcon good, pyxxy bad. I mean, it could just be that falcon was going over regardless so it was just firm-sounding words.

But then he comes into today basically with ‘we need to resolve pyxxy/Scotty, and I think Scotty is good’

Like, what kind of strategy is that from your partner? It’s a bit less believable to me

Yeah, yikes, I think I’m coming around on an angle where I can easily see Wilgy having an agenda, and I’m not as sure with his partner being pyxxy.

[VOTE: drwilgy] aubergine

Mmm. Yeah okay.

Then the question fmpov is if Camilla works better with Wilgy or Pyxxy. It would be convenient if the answer is “Wilgy” cause that’s just easier but that’s probably a tomorrow question.

[Jackofhearts2005]

If pyxxy is partners with Wilgy, I scratch my head at how Wilgy firmly was in the camp of falcon good, pyxxy bad. I mean, it could just be that falcon was going over regardless so it was just firm-sounding words.

But then he comes into today basically with ‘we need to resolve pyxxy/Scotty, and I think Scotty is good’

Like, what kind of strategy is that from your partner? It’s a bit less believable to me

Yeah, yikes, I think I’m coming around on an angle where I can easily see Wilgy having an agenda, and I’m not as sure with his partner being pyxxy.

[VOTE: drwilgy] aubergine

I kind of don't think that D3's vote actually means much in the long run since on D3 it was pretty much guaranteed that falcon would've gone over.

Wilgy's posts today have been odd but he also hasn't really tried to push Pyxxy at all as I don't remember him casing or putting a vote on them.

If pyxxy is partners with Wilgy, I scratch my head at how Wilgy firmly was in the camp of falcon good, pyxxy bad. I mean, it could just be that falcon was going over regardless so it was just firm-sounding words.

But then he comes into today basically with ‘we need to resolve pyxxy/Scotty, and I think Scotty is good’

Like, what kind of strategy is that from your partner? It’s a bit less believable to me

Yeah, yikes, I think I’m coming around on an angle where I can easily see Wilgy having an agenda, and I’m not as sure with his partner being pyxxy.

[VOTE: drwilgy] aubergine

I kind of don't think that D3's vote actually means much in the long run since on D3 it was pretty much guaranteed that falcon would've gone over.

Wilgy's posts today have been odd but he also hasn't really tried to push Pyxxy at all as I don't remember him casing or putting a vote on them.

Actually, Wilgy voted for pyxxy in thread about 12 hours ago, but didn’t vote in the poll.

And gunning for pyxxy is basically all Wilgy has done today

I should stop replying to single posts while Scotty goes through and finds new evidence. So now Wilgy and Pyxxy without Camilla is a possibility. Yeah, I’m going over all of this myself tomorrow.

But the most important bit of all of this is that it’s reinforcing my town Scotty feeling. I don’t think wolf Scotty puts in this effort and finds contradicting evidence. It’s the opposite of agenda. Frustrating he has me as a wolf but taking him out of the poe entirely is very good for the gamestate.

[Scotty]

I know Camilla said mafia doesn’t vote for their RB and bounce, but I just painstakingly read through D1 again…this is what I see.

I first voted for pyxxy early.
Porscha ‘parks’ her vote on pyxxy at the 24 hour mark:

i'm parking vote on pyxxy until he play game

google says I have to vote her in a mafia game as punishment so if pyxxy ever comes back today then you all know what I am doing next

so here, I think she is referring to tutuu, her pet clown.

Here’s the rub- pyxxy DOES show up and makes posts and reads, and Porscha NEVER mentions pyxxy again, or even interacts with pyxxy. That’s bonkers to me.

Porscha made her last post at 1:20p, almost 4 hours before eod.
At this time, Wilgy had just voted for her a few hours before, in an apparent 3-3 porscha/Wilgy tie, to make it 4-3. Tutuu tied it up again an hour before EoD.

It wasn’t until then that pyxxy showed up to make a flurry of desperate posts, where he ultimately (almost begrudgingly) self preserved onto Porscha.

So in terms of optics:
-Porscha seemingly forgot about her pyxxy vote, or else made a conscious decision not to come back to it, but at the same time, Porscha was in the lead 4-3 when she bounced. If pyxxy is her partner, what difference would voting elsewhere accomplish?
-Wilgy, as his 3rd post and with no reasoning, votes for Porscha. If pyxxy is bad, Wilgy voting for Porscha almost takes away all cred I was giving him for that vote.

This all just further reaffirms that I think pyxxy is bad. And if pyxxy is bad, Wilgy totally fits.

Oof I need to get out of my tunnel. I’m definitely in a tunnel right now and am having trouble not just confbiasing myself

This is what I was wanting Camella to give me.

Wilgy/Pyxxy/Camilla is a winning poe.

You can’t be out of POE strictly on the basis that your predecessor is fully compatible. Your contributions since are more helpful, but not enough to give me warm fuzzies in my buzzies

[Scotty]

I see you still haven’t voted, Jack

[Jackofhearts2005]

I’m out of my own poe and replacement or not, recent history or not, I can still outdance the others. If the game has a correct consensus 4 player poe with me in it and it needs a winning 3 player poe, that’s good enough. I’ll carry.

I see you still haven’t voted, Jack

And I won’t be voting until I take another look at all three of them individually. If you think that makes me more likely wolves with one of them, I can live with that too.

[Alison]

@Alison

If he's a wolf then who do you think is his most likely partner?

So far pretty much everyone has been TRing him or giving him a pass which basically mean that if he's W then pretty much none of the PoE is cleared.

probs not scotty/pyxxy given his eagerness to force there today

Probably just roxy or jack

Hmm. But if I believe my townreads, the solve is Wilgy and one of Scotty/Pyxxy.

And indeed, Alison and Camilla voting Wilgy so (granted, it’s easy for Camilla to switch and winnable for her to bus Wilgy) surely not Alison/Wilgy and less likely to be Camilla/Wilgy.

So is Alison right about w!Wilgy but wrong about Wilgy being antialigned w/Scotty/Pyxxy (requires Wilgy to endgame alone, kinda unlikely, or to assume his partner wins the thunderdome…probably exactly Scotty)?

Or is Alison wrong on Wilgy? And if she’s wrong on Wilgy, what other team even makes sense? A reevaluation on Alison/Camilla necessary if Wilgy is town because I’m town, Roxy is town and Scotty and Pyxxy has max 1 wolf. Literally nowhere else for a wolf to exist. (Also, this line of thinking really leans into Wilgy+Jack world from t!Alison’s pov but it can’t be helped.)

why does wolf wilgy flip the coin on his partner winning the dome instead of going "maybe it's not pyx/scotty" to widen the poe like everyone else was?