Se7en Mafia [GAME OVER- MAFIA WIN]
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Re: Se7en Mafia [Day 2]
Kate told Seanzie she tracked Greed but wouldn't tell him who it was.
Seanzie has mech knowledge Kate was Lust.
I track Kate to Dennis. It tells Seanzie who it is.
I'm top scumread? Why just give up? Why not just claim I'm lying or something? Why doesn't Dennis just claim Kate lied to Seanzie about him being Greed? Why do are they both ok with death?
How did Seanzie know Kate was Lust in the first place? N0 action? I need answers.
Seanzie has mech knowledge Kate was Lust.
I track Kate to Dennis. It tells Seanzie who it is.
I'm top scumread? Why just give up? Why not just claim I'm lying or something? Why doesn't Dennis just claim Kate lied to Seanzie about him being Greed? Why do are they both ok with death?
How did Seanzie know Kate was Lust in the first place? N0 action? I need answers.
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Re: Se7en Mafia [Day 2]
I am really looking forward to Kate flipping (xox BFF, but yeah). We'll learn so much from flipping a Sin. We'll learn if she's been recruited yet or not, and if that is how she could potentially change alignments, or it's some other mechanism.
Someone was questioning whether we needed them dead to win. We don't know their win cons, so we don't know. But Kates role *may* tell us. I have been operating on the belief that they were "baddie lites", not baddies yet, but they may become them. But that's just a guess.
If it's a direct recruiit, we need to consider Dennis could be Doe.
If it's not a direct recruit, maybe the sins choose whether to join the bad team. A lot of people would choose not to. Or it's something else. And I think learning what that something else is is super valuable to town.
And people tinfoiling the gift horse, just stop. Stop She was Lusty Lolcatting yesterday. She made that crack to mac yesterday because she was caught, and felt no need for a filter. She voted for herself lol
Someone was questioning whether we needed them dead to win. We don't know their win cons, so we don't know. But Kates role *may* tell us. I have been operating on the belief that they were "baddie lites", not baddies yet, but they may become them. But that's just a guess.
If it's a direct recruiit, we need to consider Dennis could be Doe.
If it's not a direct recruit, maybe the sins choose whether to join the bad team. A lot of people would choose not to. Or it's something else. And I think learning what that something else is is super valuable to town.
And people tinfoiling the gift horse, just stop. Stop She was Lusty Lolcatting yesterday. She made that crack to mac yesterday because she was caught, and felt no need for a filter. She voted for herself lol
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Lot's of things in this game are not based on the film.
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But my point is that using the film as a template for anything might not be accurate. For instance, none of the virtues were in the film (not spoilering that since it isn't anything that actually happens in the film). There are like 4 speaking characters other than the main 4 who do almost ALL of the talking. So my guess is the host needed more roles, so the virtues are here. It was more thematic than "Background Cop #6" lol
Also three of the sins actually were not dead,
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I thought we had a Pedantic smiley cause I'm being the pedantic one now. I've seen this like a zillion times, it was my husbands favorite film (except maybe the Departed), and one of my top 5.
@pyxxy I saw your posts this AM, you don't need the movie to understand the mechanics. Like I said up there, a big chunk of the roles aren't even in the movie. Don't Panic, lol. It's a classic, but you don't need it to solve. It's fun and adds to the atmosphere to know the source material, that's all.
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Re: Se7en Mafia [Day 2]
xD what even is this reaction lol
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Re: Se7en Mafia [Day 2]
I think it's more like... how would they fight against it they are just hard outed why not lolcatMacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 4:29 am like obviously it's preferable to killing town but
what if killing sins is like entirely not beneficial, or worse yet helps John Doe?
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Re: Se7en Mafia [Day 2]
[VOTE: 7] aubergine [VOTE: 7] aubergine [VOTE: 7] aubergineMacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 4:53 am Kate told Seanzie she tracked Greed but wouldn't tell him who it was.
Seanzie has mech knowledge Kate was Lust.
I track Kate to Dennis. It tells Seanzie who it is.
I'm top scumread? Why just give up? Why not just claim I'm lying or something? Why doesn't Dennis just claim Kate lied to Seanzie about him being Greed? Why do are they both ok with death?
How did Seanzie know Kate was Lust in the first place? N0 action? I need answers.
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Kate wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 9:52 am All work and no 7 makes Kate a lusty girl.
All work and no 7 makes Kate a lsty girl.
All work and no 7sev7n makes Kate a lusty girl.
All work and no 7 makes Kate a lusty gorl.
All Work and no 78 ma7es Kate a lusty girl.
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OHHH mama likeytutuu wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 9:55 amKate wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 9:52 am All work and no 7 makes Kate a lusty girl.
All work and no 7 makes Kate a lsty girl.
All work and no 7sev7n makes Kate a lusty girl.
All work and no 7 makes Kate a lusty gorl.
All Work and no 78 ma7es Kate a lusty girl.
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Curiosity killed the kat.MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 4:53 am Kate told Seanzie she tracked Greed but wouldn't tell him who it was.
Seanzie has mech knowledge Kate was Lust.
I track Kate to Dennis. It tells Seanzie who it is.
I'm top scumread? Why just give up? Why not just claim I'm lying or something? Why doesn't Dennis just claim Kate lied to Seanzie about him being Greed? Why do are they both ok with death?
How did Seanzie know Kate was Lust in the first place? N0 action? I need answers.
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Aw kitties. This thread definitely needs more cute fuzzy kitties. Especially kitties booping each other 

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Re: Se7en Mafia [Day 2]
Kate who are the 7 other sins and John Doe?
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Re: Se7en Mafia [Day 2]
Wow.
Full stop.
Thanks @Seanzie and @MacDougall you both did what I could not.
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Was just trying to catch up reading while Ariya is napping. I usually never vote this early but it is what it is.
Full stop.
Thanks @Seanzie and @MacDougall you both did what I could not.
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Was just trying to catch up reading while Ariya is napping. I usually never vote this early but it is what it is.
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Re: Se7en Mafia [Day 2]
I asked Kate how she won and she answered before I told her my fake wincon. I think sins can turn into mafia somehow and likely more than one sin can win with mafia.pyxxy wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 4:36 amany chance you've got a theme/setup/movie-plot-related reason to think thisMacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 4:29 am like obviously it's preferable to killing town but
what if killing sins is like entirely not beneficial, or worse yet helps John Doe?
I watched the first episode of Twin Peaks instead of Se7en without knowing that ep 1 was basically as long as a movie
back on the topic at hand
from what Seanzie said it didn't seem like Kate had a way to win with town
hmmmmmm okay so grain of salt like Seanzie said, but iirc Seanzie said he was posing as a sin? so (heavy fan theories here -->) maybe Seanzie did something like say that he could win alone or with scum, and then Kate went "oh yeah samesies Seanzies"Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 8:26 pm Things I learned from Kate that could be useful (take everything with a grain of salt since Kate was suspicious of my motives, but I do think there were times where she was trusting me enough that most of this is likely true).
1.) She can win as sole survivor or with mafia.
2.) SVS is 90% town (I think Kate said this in earnest)
3.) She said her and Greed exchanged roles. idk what to make of this.
4.) She has an ability but I think it is perhaps best for me not to share the details on it.
this might be worth asking Seanzie to speak further on, I don't think it would reveal much and it might help confirm how much to trust point #1
re: #2, after being in a game with Kate and SVS, can confirm they can accurate snipe each other, so if I believe #1 then I'm inclined to believe #2
idk about #3/dont wanna hear about #4 atm
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Re: Se7en Mafia [Day 2]
I thought it was obvious if the virtue is voted out by the vice they get to be Mafia or perhaps once the virtue is eliminated they can reach out to the Mafia to be recruitedSeanzie wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 10:33 amI asked Kate how she won and she answered before I told her my fake wincon. I think sins can turn into mafia somehow and likely more than one sin can win with mafia.pyxxy wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 4:36 amany chance you've got a theme/setup/movie-plot-related reason to think thisMacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 4:29 am like obviously it's preferable to killing town but
what if killing sins is like entirely not beneficial, or worse yet helps John Doe?
I watched the first episode of Twin Peaks instead of Se7en without knowing that ep 1 was basically as long as a movie
back on the topic at hand
from what Seanzie said it didn't seem like Kate had a way to win with town
hmmmmmm okay so grain of salt like Seanzie said, but iirc Seanzie said he was posing as a sin? so (heavy fan theories here -->) maybe Seanzie did something like say that he could win alone or with scum, and then Kate went "oh yeah samesies Seanzies"Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 8:26 pm Things I learned from Kate that could be useful (take everything with a grain of salt since Kate was suspicious of my motives, but I do think there were times where she was trusting me enough that most of this is likely true).
1.) She can win as sole survivor or with mafia.
2.) SVS is 90% town (I think Kate said this in earnest)
3.) She said her and Greed exchanged roles. idk what to make of this.
4.) She has an ability but I think it is perhaps best for me not to share the details on it.
this might be worth asking Seanzie to speak further on, I don't think it would reveal much and it might help confirm how much to trust point #1
re: #2, after being in a game with Kate and SVS, can confirm they can accurate snipe each other, so if I believe #1 then I'm inclined to believe #2
idk about #3/dont wanna hear about #4 atm
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Re: Se7en Mafia [Day 2]
I see what you're saying, but honestly, Kate kinda early resigned herself to "I'm screwed if you're town", and I think her and Dennis were talking for a while, so it is possible the "belly up" is sudden-looking for us, but that both of them have been kind of expecting it since Kate has been very back-and-forth in trusting me most of the day, and after I revealed she even said that she had kinda thought I was town leading her on, but again was screwed already so had no choice but to trust me somewhat.MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 4:43 am Well tutuu said that the sins are victims of John Doe in the film I've not watched it but I'm just like... why the hell did Dennis go belly up? he didn't have to go belly up. They both just want to be the next two chops, why?
What if the mafia wincon is to kill all the sins or something?
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I don't think I've ever seen outed Kate before. This is incredibly entertaining 
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Re: Se7en Mafia [Day 2]
Dennis concerns me more since he could have possibly tried to wiggle out, but Kate literally sent me her rolecard, and you know I am not an easy person to thunderdome (and even if she did thunderdome me, I thnk she is still independent at this point, so would still lose via yeet/night vig).MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 4:46 am I dunno I'm just mad sus about why they both went belly up and Kate immediately started just complimenting Seanzie. Neither give a single shit about being caught. Why?
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Lmao, I know it's why I did it

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Re: Se7en Mafia [Day 2]
I want sure what to expect but this is quite entertaining
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@S~V~S while I agree that the game can’t be completely based on the movie, I firmly believe that John Doe knew who the two detectives were, just like in the movie, and just like in the game’s opening story. Of course he can’t nk them, otherwise, what would be the point? But he can try to get them lynched.
So how is this for solving? Look at the votes for Portia all throughout day one, and the conversation around Portia, and bob’s your uncle. Bam, big man is gone.
Obviously, my thoughts return to either Mac or Zenon. If Mac is John Doe, and has an odd night tracking ability, then I have to wonder what his even night ability is. Well, he did mention that now he had outed himself, he will probably die. And yet he fearlessly continues being the self appointed game leader. How brave! And why not? He knows Doe will not want to be tracked, so we’re grateful for your sacrifice Mac.
I came here last night to catch up and try to float this idea about John Doe, but I was so busy picking my jaw up off the floor that I never got around to it. Anyway, I hear that Stockholm syndrome is going around and I sure don’t want to catch it, so Im outta here.
So how is this for solving? Look at the votes for Portia all throughout day one, and the conversation around Portia, and bob’s your uncle. Bam, big man is gone.
Obviously, my thoughts return to either Mac or Zenon. If Mac is John Doe, and has an odd night tracking ability, then I have to wonder what his even night ability is. Well, he did mention that now he had outed himself, he will probably die. And yet he fearlessly continues being the self appointed game leader. How brave! And why not? He knows Doe will not want to be tracked, so we’re grateful for your sacrifice Mac.
I came here last night to catch up and try to float this idea about John Doe, but I was so busy picking my jaw up off the floor that I never got around to it. Anyway, I hear that Stockholm syndrome is going around and I sure don’t want to catch it, so Im outta here.
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Re: Se7en Mafia [Day 2]
And this is why we need more @Matahari in games <3Matahari wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 10:41 am @S~V~S while I agree that the game can’t be completely based on the movie, I firmly believe that John Doe knew who the two detectives were, just like in the movie, and just like in the game’s opening story. Of course he can’t nk them, otherwise, what would be the point? But he can try to get them lynched.
So how is this for solving? Look at the votes for Portia all throughout day one, and the conversation around Portia, and bob’s your uncle. Bam, big man is gone.
Obviously, my thoughts return to either Mac or Zenon. If Mac is John Doe, and has an odd night tracking ability, then I have to wonder what his even night ability is. Well, he did mention that now he had outed himself, he will probably die. And yet he fearlessly continues being the self appointed game leader. How brave! And why not? He knows Doe will not want to be tracked, so we’re grateful for your sacrifice Mac.
I came here last night to catch up and try to float this idea about John Doe, but I was so busy picking my jaw up off the floor that I never got around to it. Anyway, I hear that Stockholm syndrome is going around and I sure don’t want to catch it, so Im outta here.
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Re: Se7en Mafia [Day 2]
About your John Doe post:
I think it would be more likely Zenon bc Mac has been way more solve-y and Zenon has just been rolling over. Not her norm imo.
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The idea to yeet Porscha really did kinda come out of left field. She was one of many low participation Day One players. I have a bit more time online now, then i gotta do Fathers Day festivities. The older he gets, the earlier it's over ;( so I will most def be back before EOD. But I plan to reread this in the night, I was AFK during the EOD, and after the flip, I only skimmed the thread leading up to the elim.Matahari wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 10:41 am @S~V~S while I agree that the game can’t be completely based on the movie, I firmly believe that John Doe knew who the two detectives were, just like in the movie, and just like in the game’s opening story. Of course he can’t nk them, otherwise, what would be the point? But he can try to get them lynched.
So how is this for solving? Look at the votes for Portia all throughout day one, and the conversation around Portia, and bob’s your uncle. Bam, big man is gone.
Obviously, my thoughts return to either Mac or Zenon. If Mac is John Doe, and has an odd night tracking ability, then I have to wonder what his even night ability is. Well, he did mention that now he had outed himself, he will probably die. And yet he fearlessly continues being the self appointed game leader. How brave! And why not? He knows Doe will not want to be tracked, so we’re grateful for your sacrifice Mac.
I came here last night to catch up and try to float this idea about John Doe, but I was so busy picking my jaw up off the floor that I never got around to it. Anyway, I hear that Stockholm syndrome is going around and I sure don’t want to catch it, so Im outta here.
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Re: Se7en Mafia [Day 2]
Kate didn't track Greed, she had some sort of BTSC with them, and said she targeted them to create it since she was confident they were bad (which made me think greed had to be in {Roxy, Matahari, SVS, Dennis}, and I was delaying outing about Kate for a while because I was trying to get her to give me more info so I could narrow it down, and was strongly thinking it was Dennis before you revealed, but your reveal, plus Kate kinda tensing up in the chat made it so the ruse had diminishing returns)MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 4:53 am Kate told Seanzie she tracked Greed but wouldn't tell him who it was.
Seanzie has mech knowledge Kate was Lust.
I track Kate to Dennis. It tells Seanzie who it is.
I'm top scumread? Why just give up? Why not just claim I'm lying or something? Why doesn't Dennis just claim Kate lied to Seanzie about him being Greed? Why do are they both ok with death?
How did Seanzie know Kate was Lust in the first place? N0 action? I need answers.
I did not know Kate was lust, but I ISO'ed her N1 and she didn't look like town!Kate, so I targeted her. I got BTSC with her, and I came in out the gate saying that I was a sin and I would have died if I targeted a non-sin, so I knew she was a sin. Gambit paid off, and she slipped up kinda quick, then doubled back because I think she realized I could be lying, and then we went back and forth for a while with her not trusting me, then I found out that we can say anything we want in BTSC (and promptly shit my pants because all the sudden I needed a fakeclaim). She was asking if I was Pride, which made me think it was a trap, so I claimed to be lust and that I was starting an orgy/cult and needed to recruit other sins to win. She didn't believe me, and sent me a screenshot of her rolecard (she is lust). I found a way to backpedal, and said I was gluttony and that my own sins are not enough to satisfy me, so I think I convinced her that my cult was real, and that I just needed to find 3 other sins. She told me she knew who Greed was, and I spent the rest of the time trying to figure out who Greed was, but I could tell she didn't fully trust me (she asked me to share my role card and I didn't, so yeah...) I think I did a good job of being like "well, at EoD you'll have the option to join my cult. After you're the same alignment as me, I will full-share. Until then, there is not really any incentive to share anything since you could possibly screw me over." and I told her that telling me who greed was could wait until night when she was recruited, which I think allowed me to fish for hints for a bit longer, since I could ask her about her reads to get clues.
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Re: Se7en Mafia [Day 2]
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Re: Se7en Mafia [Day 2]
Don't beat around the b7sh. We spent the night together.7Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 10:55 amKate didn't track Greed, she had some sort of BTSC with them, and said she targeted them to create it since she was confident they were bad (which made me think greed had to be in {Roxy, Matahari, SVS, Dennis}, and I was delaying outing about Kate for a while because I was trying to get her to give me more info so I could narrow it down, and was strongly thinking it was Dennis before you revealed, but your reveal, plus Kate kinda tensing up in the chat made it so the ruse had diminishing returns)MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 4:53 am Kate told Seanzie she tracked Greed but wouldn't tell him who it was.
Seanzie has mech knowledge Kate was Lust.
I track Kate to Dennis. It tells Seanzie who it is.
I'm top scumread? Why just give up? Why not just claim I'm lying or something? Why doesn't Dennis just claim Kate lied to Seanzie about him being Greed? Why do are they both ok with death?
How did Seanzie know Kate was Lust in the first place? N0 action? I need answers.
I did not know Kate was lust, but I ISO'ed her N1 and she didn't look like town!Kate, so I targeted her. I got BTSC with her, and I came in out the gate saying that I was a sin and I would have died if I targeted a non-sin, so I knew she was a sin. Gambit paid off, and she slipped up kinda quick, then doubled back because I think she realized I could be lying, and then we went back and forth for a while with her not trusting me, then I found out that we can say anything we want in BTSC (and promptly shit my pants because all the sudden I needed a fakeclaim). She was asking if I was Pride, which made me think it was a trap, so I claimed to be lust and that I was starting an orgy/cult and needed to recruit other sins to win. She didn't believe me, and sent me a screenshot of her rolecard (she is lust). I found a way to backpedal, and said I was gluttony and that my own sins are not enough to satisfy me, so I think I convinced her that my cult was real, and that I just needed to find 3 other sins. She told me she knew who Greed was, and I spent the rest of the time trying to figure out who Greed was, but I could tell she didn't fully trust me (she asked me to share my role card and I didn't, so yeah...) I think I did a good job of being like "well, at EoD you'll have the option to join my cult. After you're the same alignment as me, I will full-share. Until then, there is not really any incentive to share anything since you could possibly screw me over." and I told her that telling me who greed was could wait until night when she was recruited, which I think allowed me to fish for hints for a bit longer, since I could ask her about her reads to get clues.
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Re: Se7en Mafia [Day 2]
WHATS IN THE BOX?? WHATS IN THE BOX?????
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Re: Se7en Mafia [Day 2]
Yeah, the ole' sexy reporter trick - sleep with someone and they'll share all their secrets in their relaxed state.Kate wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 10:57 amDon't beat around the b7sh. We spent the night together.7Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 10:55 amKate didn't track Greed, she had some sort of BTSC with them, and said she targeted them to create it since she was confident they were bad (which made me think greed had to be in {Roxy, Matahari, SVS, Dennis}, and I was delaying outing about Kate for a while because I was trying to get her to give me more info so I could narrow it down, and was strongly thinking it was Dennis before you revealed, but your reveal, plus Kate kinda tensing up in the chat made it so the ruse had diminishing returns)MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 4:53 am Kate told Seanzie she tracked Greed but wouldn't tell him who it was.
Seanzie has mech knowledge Kate was Lust.
I track Kate to Dennis. It tells Seanzie who it is.
I'm top scumread? Why just give up? Why not just claim I'm lying or something? Why doesn't Dennis just claim Kate lied to Seanzie about him being Greed? Why do are they both ok with death?
How did Seanzie know Kate was Lust in the first place? N0 action? I need answers.
I did not know Kate was lust, but I ISO'ed her N1 and she didn't look like town!Kate, so I targeted her. I got BTSC with her, and I came in out the gate saying that I was a sin and I would have died if I targeted a non-sin, so I knew she was a sin. Gambit paid off, and she slipped up kinda quick, then doubled back because I think she realized I could be lying, and then we went back and forth for a while with her not trusting me, then I found out that we can say anything we want in BTSC (and promptly shit my pants because all the sudden I needed a fakeclaim). She was asking if I was Pride, which made me think it was a trap, so I claimed to be lust and that I was starting an orgy/cult and needed to recruit other sins to win. She didn't believe me, and sent me a screenshot of her rolecard (she is lust). I found a way to backpedal, and said I was gluttony and that my own sins are not enough to satisfy me, so I think I convinced her that my cult was real, and that I just needed to find 3 other sins. She told me she knew who Greed was, and I spent the rest of the time trying to figure out who Greed was, but I could tell she didn't fully trust me (she asked me to share my role card and I didn't, so yeah...) I think I did a good job of being like "well, at EoD you'll have the option to join my cult. After you're the same alignment as me, I will full-share. Until then, there is not really any incentive to share anything since you could possibly screw me over." and I told her that telling me who greed was could wait until night when she was recruited, which I think allowed me to fish for hints for a bit longer, since I could ask her about her reads to get clues.
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Re: Se7en Mafia [Day 2]
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 11:04 amYeah, the ole' sexy reporter trick - sleep with someone and they'll share all their secrets in their relaxed state.Kate wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 10:57 amDon't beat around the b7sh. We spent the night together.7Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 10:55 amKate didn't track Greed, she had some sort of BTSC with them, and said she targeted them to create it since she was confident they were bad (which made me think greed had to be in {Roxy, Matahari, SVS, Dennis}, and I was delaying outing about Kate for a while because I was trying to get her to give me more info so I could narrow it down, and was strongly thinking it was Dennis before you revealed, but your reveal, plus Kate kinda tensing up in the chat made it so the ruse had diminishing returns)MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 4:53 am Kate told Seanzie she tracked Greed but wouldn't tell him who it was.
Seanzie has mech knowledge Kate was Lust.
I track Kate to Dennis. It tells Seanzie who it is.
I'm top scumread? Why just give up? Why not just claim I'm lying or something? Why doesn't Dennis just claim Kate lied to Seanzie about him being Greed? Why do are they both ok with death?
How did Seanzie know Kate was Lust in the first place? N0 action? I need answers.
I did not know Kate was lust, but I ISO'ed her N1 and she didn't look like town!Kate, so I targeted her. I got BTSC with her, and I came in out the gate saying that I was a sin and I would have died if I targeted a non-sin, so I knew she was a sin. Gambit paid off, and she slipped up kinda quick, then doubled back because I think she realized I could be lying, and then we went back and forth for a while with her not trusting me, then I found out that we can say anything we want in BTSC (and promptly shit my pants because all the sudden I needed a fakeclaim). She was asking if I was Pride, which made me think it was a trap, so I claimed to be lust and that I was starting an orgy/cult and needed to recruit other sins to win. She didn't believe me, and sent me a screenshot of her rolecard (she is lust). I found a way to backpedal, and said I was gluttony and that my own sins are not enough to satisfy me, so I think I convinced her that my cult was real, and that I just needed to find 3 other sins. She told me she knew who Greed was, and I spent the rest of the time trying to figure out who Greed was, but I could tell she didn't fully trust me (she asked me to share my role card and I didn't, so yeah...) I think I did a good job of being like "well, at EoD you'll have the option to join my cult. After you're the same alignment as me, I will full-share. Until then, there is not really any incentive to share anything since you could possibly screw me over." and I told her that telling me who greed was could wait until night when she was recruited, which I think allowed me to fish for hints for a bit longer, since I could ask her about her reads to get clues.
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Re: Se7en Mafia [Day 2]
We were caught in a net.
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Re: Se7en Mafia [Day 2]
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 4:29 am like obviously it's preferable to killing town but
what if killing sins is like entirely not beneficial, or worse yet helps John Doe?
I thought it was too easy too especially with Dennis. Afaik Kate and Dennis didn't know for sure Seanzie wasn't a sin.MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 4:46 am I dunno I'm just mad sus about why they both went belly up and Kate immediately started just complimenting Seanzie. Neither give a single shit about being caught. Why?
Not only that, but it felt too easy that Seanzie caught Kate and Dennis in the first place. Sean said Kate basically admitted to being lust and told him who greed was. That seems like careless BTSC even if you do think Sean is a sin. Even if you out yourself, why out someone else?
I still think we get a lot of info from flipping a sin and hopefully we get to see into what their win condition and abilities are. I also don't think the game would punish us for killing a sin. That sounds really harsh and it sounds like too unusual game design to punish us for getting it right.
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