Se7en Mafia [GAME OVER- MAFIA WIN]

[MacDougall]

tl;dr

Be mac
Be my absolutely regular mac self for the entire game
Hard claim my role unprovoked day 2 and help kill a deepwolf
Be literally confirmed tracker by Seanzie's own perspective
Amp up the wim to help town
Get voted by Rondo and Seanzie

Seanzie, is apparently a town cop, and apparently wishes to clear me instead of one of the 6 players in my POE. When I am the most mechanically clear person in the game.

And somehow Rondo thinks that participating in this nonsense is sane.

Yes, I buried Porscha day 1. Yes I was wrong. There has never been a game in which wolf Mac has been caught because he was the main person responsible for a town dying day 1. Not one.

[MacDougall]

I dont appreciate the ATE tho. Other than that. Just try to relax and know that I care about your mental wellbeing and hope you can get past the frustration and just accept I am encouraging Seanzie to solve the game his way as its working so far.

If you care about my mental wellbeing spare me the "I don't appreciate the ATE" as that's just manipulative crap.

You're encouraging drunk Seanzie who wants to waste his alignment check on someone HE ALREADY HAS MECHANICAL EVIDENCE IS TOWN.

Why would I lie about my tracker claim? I literally am verified tracker because Kate and Dennis went belly up and Seanzie knew Kate was targeting Dennis in the first place.

I am clearly not lying.

What the fuck kind of mafia role is odd night tracker?

You hiding behind "I'm sheeping Seanzie" is the biggest pile of crap I've ever seen.

You say I need to plea with Seanzie, homie is fucken passed out in his chair with a gut full of red wine right now. Ain't pleading with shit.

[RondoDimBuckle]

goose fraba, its just a game we are all having fun. I hope you continue to. I had to accept you turboing me yesterday and I let you with no complaints. I am glad you did. Let seanzie have his turn

[RondoDimBuckle]

Seanzie will be awake tomorrow. Anything you say between then and now will be read by him and he will weigh it up. Its ok Mac

[MacDougall]

I am not sorry at all for calling this nonsense out for what it is.

At best it's terrible town play from the both of you. Hiding behind bogus "I'm sheeping Seanzie" crap doesn't track for fuck because I've been townier than Seanzie on day 3 by about 50. I don't even give a shit about him outing Kate. I outed Kate as well. You have no reason to take this line with me. I am blatantly obvious town and I'm not just gonna cop it. It's my job as a townie to call out bullshit like this.

If Seanzie actually alignment checks me, he needs to find a new hobby for real. It's an absolutely woeful decision. Almost as bad as the decision you and him have both apparently found yourselves to in tilting me off the map while I was actually hyper solving the fucking game. That's actually just super wolfy honestly. Here I am actually getting my hands dirty and solving and now of all times you decide tilting me off the reservation is optimal?

[MacDougall]

goose fraba, its just a game we are all having fun. I hope you continue to. I had to accept you turboing me yesterday and I let you with no complaints. I am glad you did. Let seanzie have his turn

I don't spend hours a day on a mafia game to be locked in the same fucking box over and over again anything remotely fun Rondo.

You didn't have to accept me "turboing" you yesterday at all. I am not you. You didn't have the threat of having "the town cop" waste his alignment check on you hovering over your head. You in fact had no risk whatsoever to run in just letting my flaccid suspicion float through, and you were nowhere NEAR as clear as me.

Comparing me suspecting you, with what I am going through, is bad faith as fuck.

[RondoDimBuckle]

I appreciate all the effort you do for town in every game you are town.

I also appreciate how crafty you are as wolf or 3p Mac. You are one of my favourite people to play with as any and all alignments. I am glad you are such a good influence in this community. Its nice to see how you hande everything from a Mac point of view. You have some good passion that you leverage into the game.

[MacDougall]

I suspected you. I, vocalised my suspicion of you. That is what happened yesterday that you, master of emotional self control had to navigate.

I am being voted by you and Seanzie despite BEING MECHANICALLY TOWN.

Despite, BEING THE PERSON TRYING HARDEST TO SOLVE THE GAME.

Despite, PROBABLY OTHERWISE SELF RESOLVING TONIGHT DUE TO BEING A FUCKING TRACKER.

Kindly shove it.

[MacDougall]

I appreciate all the effort you do for town in every game you are town.

I also appreciate how crafty you are as wolf or 3p Mac. You are one of my favourite people to play with as any and all alignments. I am glad you are such a good influence in this community. Its nice to see how you hande everything from a Mac point of view. You have some good passion that you leverage into the game.

How dare you!

How god damn dare you.

[MacDougall]

If you both just stfu I would have just got night killed tonight but noooo now I have to spend the rest of the day dealing with this crap.

[RondoDimBuckle]

I think Seanzie will die before you and I think I will die before you. I think you will have two more tracks which is great

[MacDougall]

I think Seanzie will die before you and I think I will die before you. I think you will have two more tracks which is great

Whatever man. Your trolling is doing my head in. Go troll someone else.

[RondoDimBuckle]

Im not trolling Mac. I genuinely want you to have a good game and hope that this isnt something you fixate on to the point of hurting your own wim. It would be a good time for you to take a break and come back refreshed and full of vigor

[Michelle]

Morning!
Tutuu died because she break the post limit?
That means the post limit on her was from scum and I was wrong

Wilgy
Epi
Seanzie
Jack
Porscha
Pyxxy

The above are all the people who should be wagons and have votes. Not Tutuu. Not me. Not Doom. Not Falcon. Not Michelle who has now decided to out herself with her omgus lol.

Outside of Porscha, I ain't doing too bad. We can stop picking on Mac for being wrong on Porscha now.

Maybe

We are in World 1

In world 1 everything is just easy and fun

In world 1 the following players are town

Rondo for setup solving
Thunal for wim and hard solving
Nanook for being super towny and probably never killing Zenon
Seanzie for teabagging 2 sins
Jack because he "self confirms" and wolves never claim to do that (do they? lol)

Who else is level 1 AN TOWNIE?

Me, so your world is incomplete

Dennis is outed baddie

DrWilgy is ...

Dubz ... was towny day 1, did they even post day 2? Where's Dubz? Someone was saying he was outed yesterday and I was assuming it was some sort of joke? Dubz got given a Zenon gift on n1 with three votes and then didn't even show up?

Epi is ...

falcon is ... alive ... which is weird

jack "self resolves" so is town

Mac is me, I am Mac

Matahari is ... kind of like ... rand but ... wolfy side of rand ... kinda want SVS to solve Matahari @S~V~S what say you?

Michelle is ... I thought towny for the omgus day 1 but that's too generous. @Thunal33 why u clearin'?

Nanook ... probably wouldn't have killed Zenon and Zenon looks like a fairly clear John Doe kill to me? And he's all level 1 and whatever which is fine. Like whatever townread the guy.

Rondo is all setup solving and stuff and I just think he's town now cuz like why not (HE KNOWS TOO MUCH DONT TRUST HIM).

Roxy is ... kind of like ... rand but ... wolfy side of rand ... kinda want SVS to solve Matahari @S~V~S what say you?

Seanzie teabags evil

S~V~S is a derpcleared IC

I looked at Thunal's ISO to see the thing I'm supposed to see to townread them and I couldn't find it but I'm townreading them now anyway


Sooooo

Thunal wants me to townread Michelle so fine.

Towncore

Thunal
Rondo
Nanook
SVS
Jack
Seanzie

Sussy baka list

Wilgy
Dubz
Falcon
Epi
Matahari
Roxy

We have John Doe and 5 sins left.

There are 6 names there.

If your name is there and you can self clear with mech. Do it.

I liked Roxy, I don't think she deserves the bottom Poe, or Poe at all.
The rest, i agree

Ok I am about to drive to work BUT since I have Mac and Seanzie here AND Thunal and Jack had posted today. I doubt I am going to trap them in anything. Since Kate is now dead I am basically vanilla town. I have no more charges and I have targeted Thunal night one, she could not have performed the night kill. Jack could not have performed the night kill night two

Good to know!

Any volunteers?

Wilgy
Dubz
Falcon
Epi
Matahari
Roxy

Target Epi with immediacy. He is the highest value solve in this list imo.

This is a good PoE tbh. I'm increasingly suspicious of Falcon since his solving seems different than I'm used to seeing from him. More appealing to the thread than, say, him throwing out that Splints/Zenon were w/w in Solar System without a care about what everyone else thought.

Falcon did such thing as town in other games
Just saying.
He knows he becomes Poe when he's doing it

So far of my POE I think Wilgy and Matahari are scummiest. Dubz is a bit more of a shrug. Roxy is kinda towny.

I'd go Wilgy first

tutuu
3
38%
Voters: Zenon, falcon45ca, RondoDimBuckle


Spicy!!!

Interesting VC Michelle quoted for posterity here. I like that Michelle bothered to do this. It's pretty unlikely that Falcon/Rondo are t/t here.

Why?

Matahari, Wilgy, Dubz, SVS, Michelle

@Michelle how the hell did you end up voting Tutuu when you were tracking their wagon and sussing it throughout day 1?

@DrWilgy you really should have known better than to vote out Tutuu day 1. How am I take that as anything other than you just trying to remove a threat? Tutuu is a goat tier townie and you just lazily threw your voice behind getting rid of Tutuu day 1? What gives?

The two villagers voting there at least had reasons. Self pres, and Doom was adamant Porscha was town. The rest if you need to explain why you were voting Tutuu over Porscha?

It's easy. Paranoia.
Sorry @tutuu

Reading me town for saying hi and for omgus it's also not very good, tutuu, and you have some dunno I could find a read for so why don't you have a read for them? Nook for eg, posted enough to deserve a read

I can see that you were thinking that Tutuu was sus because the consensus indicated it therefore there must have been something to it.

I can believe this perspective from you. It's kind of organic.

But now that we know it was bullshit, and I was pretty adamant I was seeing normal town Tutuu, I still want to torch every Tutuu voter who didn't have a reasonable perspective to be doing it. So off I go to find some victims. You aren't it.

Ok daddy Mac, but don't tunnel me, I am too busy to handle it today

Wolfy 4th vote on Tutuu.

Have a nice day.

This was Wilgy's vote.

He left it there. All day.

He's not town.

So it's Dennis and after is Wilgy?
We can go Wilgy first, just saying

[Michelle]

Spoiler: show

Who is guilty?
Poll runs till Thu Jun 22, 2023 5:00 am
Please note that if you vote, your vote will be visible.

You may select 1 option


Dennis
4
40%
Voters: S~V~S, Jackofhearts2005, NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, Thunal33
DrWilgy
0
No votes
Voters: None
Dubz
0
No votes
Voters: None
Epignosis
0
No votes
Voters: None
falcon45ca
0
No votes
Voters: None
jackofhearts2005
0
No votes
Voters: None
Macdougall
2
20%
Voters: RondoDimBuckle, Seanzie
Matahari
0
No votes
Voters: None
Michelle
0
No votes
Voters: None
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
0
No votes
Voters: None
RondoDimBuckle
0
No votes
Voters: None
Roxy
0
No votes
Voters: None
Seanzie
0
No votes
Voters: None
S~V~S
0
No votes
Voters: None
Thunal33
0
No votes
Voters: None
tutuu
0
No votes
Voters: None
Unvote
0
No votes
Voters: None
Other (Mod/dead/spec)
4
40%
Voters: Zenon, JaggedJimmyJay, Kate, Scotty
Total votes: 10

vc

[Michelle]

I know we have to chop Dennis today, but I need a cw so I will
[VOTE: drWilgy] aubergine
and no, Mac is not the cw I want @RondoDimBuckle, @Seanzie

[S~V~S]

"The purple guys can change alignments" does read like surface TMI but not sure I believe a purple guy would just announce it on thread. Like it's the kind of thing I'd think they would be hyperaware of not talking about.

Unless tutuu has a meta history of not reading the rules and it's fully unbelievable town!tutuu would even have known about it

@MacDougall i was referencing this post, it seemed to imply sue of Tutuu whereas Dubz had also said she was sheeping Kate in general. I was trying to figure out if she had a reason to vote Tutuu or was just sheeping.

[S~V~S]

*sue not sue

[MacDougall]

cheers

what do you think of roxy and matahari?

[S~V~S]

Earlier, I was made to post in ways that alluded to the seven deadly sins.

If you will notice, my first post was lust, my second (to S~V~S) was envy, etc.

Hope I didn't offend anyone. I am free to post normally.

Do we really believe Epi had a curse? What if he was just trying to encourage the sins to signal to him?

I'm voting MacDougall out of basic, angry revenge.

[VOTE: MacDougall] aubergine

The most annoying shit ever for me is when I put faith in myself I'm wrong and when I doubt myself I'm right and it literally makes playing mafia so frustrating.

Anyways I was right on Doom that's cool. Why the fuck did they kill Doom.

Fear kill.

I don't agree. My thinking is a redirection is in play.

Most of Epi's ISO is like, okay in a "this is standard Epi" way but these two posts on day 2 kind of stand out as being awkward for him. @Jackofhearts2005 @DrWilgy @S~V~S you probably have the most experience with him. These posts lack the curmudgeonliness I associate with town Epi. Like he seems a bit more proactive, in a not very good way?

I’ll reread him, I have found him fairly unguarded which reads more town to me than not. I am curious about that random vote he made for me. I didn’t get why he did it, like he did it.

As for these two posts, if you think him saying he’s voting you out of angry revenge isn’t curmudgeony, I admire your sang froid.

As for the other, just seems basic. Being a certain way every post would lean more bad Epi than good imo.

[S~V~S]

K gonna catch up, bbl

[S~V~S]

cheers

what do you think of roxy and matahari?

I think Roxy is town. The tinfoil she put on over Kates apparent easy rollover reads town to me. Before that I leaned town, but her skepticism there was supa Roxtown imo.

MAGAs last post (or the last I recall) made me feel townier about her, but not to the level I feel towny about Rox.

[S~V~S]

Ha ha phone post ftw “Mata” not MAGA lololol

[S~V~S]

Spoiler: show

Okay I see. But I don't understand how you feel that way at all. They are disconnected thoughts only in the way I also don't connect my thoughts. But am I a wolf?

I say things and move on without elaborating constantly is that wolfy?

It's not the same thing. With you I feel like there's an interest or sequence to your thought process even if it's sometimes random and disconnected. I don't feel the same way with Wilgy. It's disconnected in that it feels like he doesn't care about knowing the answers to his questions.

I don't think Kate and Dennis being outed means he's clear, but I also think my time rn is best spent looking for difficult wolves. We don't have huge likely t/t wagons pushed by very skilled players if the game is easy, I don't get randomly suspected if the game is easy, and I don't think Kate is the first to get outed if the game is easy.

As far as who could be the difficult baddies, I don't think it's Mac or Tutuu. I have an idea that it might me SVS and I also want to look into Falcon and Jack. As far as SVS, I find it weird that Kate didn't make a read on her at all. SVS being fooled by Kate makes sense, but similarly to how Kate ignored Dennis Kate also ignored SVS but even more and I'd expect Kate to have some read on her. Dennis may have signaled SVS because he thought Seanzie was SVS, but what if Dennis signaled SVS because he thought she was bad for other reasons?

@MacDougall I really believe you can find me as town if you read my ISO.

I meant to address this earlier, but Fathers Day and anything most people said would have become lost in yesterdays lusty thread. I also know it's moot at this point, but i didn't want to leave it to hang.

After Hot Dog Fingers, Kate and I decided never to do that again. That game was really stressful because of that, that we were taking alot of flak for being two old friends who *met* playing Mafia being confident on our reads of each other. If I suspect her, I'll make a case, and if I don't I'll put her in a reads list if I make one. And she agreed.

Had she done so, it would have been a huge red flag to me. I was even kind of thinking that was why she didn't make a reads list, she was trying to avoid it. But obvs it was becasue she was bad lol

I already voted Dennis, we need to resolve him. I have tinfoil that he's actually Doe, hence his Mom devoting so much time to thread spamming, to keep his name out of peoples mouths one more day. And while she seemed to inexplicably (Kate is pretty paranoid, I look forward to reading that chat post game to see just WHY she trusted him at all) trust Sean, I am not sure she would have given up Doe to him or anyone else if Doe was her actual son. Giving him another day to gather a team. It didn't say in Kates role that she needed Doe alive to become bad, but having played a similar role, it's a strong possibility imo that that might be the case.

I checked the First Post, and it was not updated to show any baddies other than Doe, I guess we are not being informed of this, so I'm assuming with Pyxxys flip that we're in a regular Mafia game now and there could be more. I plan to do some rereading today with that in mind.

[S~V~S]

Also speaking of the lusty thread I have one more, I realllly wanted to post it before EOD yesterday but the thread was Locked.

@Kate this ones is for you

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

John doe as a hat doesn't work mac, there are 20 town+sins roles and 21 players.

@MacDougall making sure you see this.

I think you only read the first third of my meandering nonsense lol.

By the end I was looking at it less as a hat and more of a swap. John Doe can turn a sin into John Doe and become that sin. My thinking is Pyxxy was John Doe, but isn't anymore. And I am thinking that might be why Pyxxy died. Pyxxy might have thought a different sin was better off as John Doe given he was hard POE.

Yeah, that's possible though I think less likely personally

I just wanted to make sure we stay in the realm of possible lol

[RondoDimBuckle]

such a pointless day

[Seanzie]

Consider that it's day 3 and you are both still in the game as the most clearing thing about me because I actively would seek to remove you both from any game I was wolfing in as priority.

I'm untouchable. Got so many protekz on me. Rondo is... Rondo.

[Seanzie]

I think Seanzie will die before you and I think I will die before you. I think you will have two more tracks which is great

In terms of NKs, I agree with the first part, not the second. In terms of TKs, I agree with the second part, not the first.

[Seanzie]

I know we have to chop Dennis today, but I need a cw so I will
[VOTE: drWilgy] aubergine
and no, Mac is not the cw I want @RondoDimBuckle, @Seanzie

What about Nanook? Unhappy his name isn't being thrown around.

[Seanzie]

cheers

what do you think of roxy and matahari?

Vague bad feeling and vague good feeling, in that order.

[RondoDimBuckle]

Seanzie I am going to bed nowish, is there anywhere we are going before I do?

[Seanzie]

Seanzie I am going to bed nowish, is there anywhere we are going before I do?

To Nook plz.

[RondoDimBuckle]

[VOTE: Nook ] aubergine DIE

[RondoDimBuckle]

This is of course only inside the game. I hope you are having a great week Nook

[Michelle]

I know we have to chop Dennis today, but I need a cw so I will
[VOTE: drWilgy] aubergine
and no, Mac is not the cw I want @RondoDimBuckle, @Seanzie

What about Nanook? Unhappy his name isn't being thrown around.

Idk honestly, he can go either way.

He ignored me, that's sus fmpov

[Dubz]

Still no internet at the new place but things are less crazy now so I'm back sort of. Sorry guys.

[falcon45ca]

Rub A535 is very important after hockey games.





Semi - pro tip folks

[falcon45ca]

I dont appreciate the ATE tho. Other than that. Just try to relax and know that I care about your mental wellbeing and hope you can get past the frustration and just accept I am encouraging Seanzie to solve the game his way as its working so far.

If you care about my mental wellbeing spare me the "I don't appreciate the ATE" as that's just manipulative crap.

You're encouraging drunk Seanzie who wants to waste his alignment check on someone HE ALREADY HAS MECHANICAL EVIDENCE IS TOWN.

Why would I lie about my tracker claim? I literally am verified tracker because Kate and Dennis went belly up and Seanzie knew Kate was targeting Dennis in the first place.

I am clearly not lying.

What the fuck kind of mafia role is odd night tracker?

You hiding behind "I'm sheeping Seanzie" is the biggest pile of crap I've ever seen.

You say I need to plea with Seanzie, homie is fucken passed out in his chair with a gut full of red wine right now. Ain't pleading with shit.

[VOTE: rondo] aubergine

[Dubz]

Is there a sort of...thread consensus POE so I can prioritize ISOs? I've only really looked at flips and where I was mentioned (will get to that shortly), and I skimmed end of D2 last night.

[Scotty]

A SHOT RINGS OUT

A knock wrapped on the heavy wooden door. Martin looked up from his notepad to see the friendly profile of the clerk, “I need to lock up soon, Martin. You almost finished in here?”

Martin batted sleep out of his eyes several times and checked his watch. “Oh crap, sorry Steiner, I’ll be a couple more minutes.”

“Okie dokie, if you wouldn’t mind heading out the back and lock the door behind you. Oh, and remember to turn off the overhead light this time,” the clerk chided playfully, and upon Martin agreeing, closed the door behind him.

Martin Talbot rubbed his eyes drearily. He’s been getting into a nasty habit recently after particularly short trials to hole himself away in a side office to get work done on the more complex cases. This John Doe case was particularly messy, and was a no-go until the detectives could pinpoint a suspect, which in and of itself seemed fruitless after so many days. So he kept himself busy with the smaller cases. If he kept himself busy, he wouldn’t have to play the losing battle of sleeping soundly at night- he would just pass out from exhaustion.

He was just turning his murky attention to a statute that applied to the case on the docket in the morning when he heard the latch of the door. Hyper-focused on transcribing the statute in his notepad, he didn’t think to look back, and just asked, “Steiner? You still around?”

With no response, Martin Talbot turned to a flash of a knife that connected with his jugular. He staggered back, blood all over his books, trying to get a hold of his assailant, but the assailant was already gone- out the back door.

The overhead lights weren’t turned off that night.

@Seanzie has died. He was

Spoiler: show

Martin Talbot, the DA



You are town. Eliminate all threats to town in order to win.

Do not vote for Seanzie in the poll

Spoiler: show

@Dennis
@DrWilgy
@Dubz
@Epignosis
@falcon45ca
@jackofhearts2005
@Macdougall
@Matahari
@Michelle
@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
@RondoDimBuckle
@Roxy
@S~V~S
@Thunal33

[Seanzie]

Is there a sort of...thread consensus POE so I can prioritize ISOs? I've only really looked at flips and where I was mentioned (will get to that shortly), and I skimmed end of D2 last night.

Dennis is outed. We are looking for more baddies. My eyes are on Nook. I am wary of Falcon and Roxy. People like Jack and Epi deserve more scrutiny IMO, but idk if this is consensus, but I am town KING, so what I say, goes.

[Michelle]

Brutal

[Michelle]

Is there a sort of...thread consensus POE so I can prioritize ISOs? I've only really looked at flips and where I was mentioned (will get to that shortly), and I skimmed end of D2 last night.

Dennis is outed. We are looking for more baddies. My eyes are on Nook. I am wary of Falcon and Roxy. People like Jack and Epi deserve more scrutiny IMO, but idk if this is consensus, but I am town KING, so what I say, goes.

Ok King!

[Michelle]

[VOTE: Nanook] aubergine

[Dubz]

I'll be pleased if my skimming was a success, I landed on Nook sus last night

Also I was typing a reply to @MacDougall when the thread locked so RIP, but the tl;dr was that I knew about the triple vote but didn't feel like I was in a good position to have that kind of impact on a vote when I barely knew what was going on in the game. The fact that I couldn't be here is NAI, I am happy to relay my moving woes if anyone wants but it's really neither here nor there.

[Dubz]

[VOTE: nanook ] aubergine

[RondoDimBuckle]

Mother fuckers I knew that something was off. I check thread and one of you asses have killed Seanzie. If it was a hero shot you had better claim soon or I'm just going to murder you regardless of when you claim for such a bad shot. Otherwise if you're a sin you done fucked up

[RondoDimBuckle]

[VOTE: Falcon ] aubergine

[Jackofhearts2005]

We are in World 1

In world 1 everything is just easy and fun

In world 1 the following players are town

Rondo for setup solving
Thunal for wim and hard solving
Nanook for being super towny and probably never killing Zenon
Seanzie for teabagging 2 sins
Jack because he "self confirms" and wolves never claim to do that (do they? lol)

Who else is level 1 AN TOWNIE?

Ftr, what happened to your townread on me from yesterday?