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like
you do have a good read on me xan i dont deny it
so where is that read
i promise ive only 72% shitposted in my iso theres actually stuff there too
you do have a good read on me xan i dont deny it
so where is that read
i promise ive only 72% shitposted in my iso theres actually stuff there too

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I've 100% shit posted.
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I just said you're probably town. I think you're losing sight of anything actually AI in this thread and you arent being suspicious of people at all, nor re-examining when I point things out so that counts against you, but I wouldnt say its wolf indicative yet.
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Rather be boring than rude.Xanjori wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 12:43 pmSeanzie wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 12:42 pmSorry, but no. Your posts reek of trying to push Delta. Saying they'd want you out D1, questioning my townread of them, the way you're questioning their reads, your penumbra reeks of "I want Delta out" but you aren't doing anything about it, and instead you're just trying to push them off you, and now OMGUSing me because of the situation.Spoiler: show
Holy fuck you're boring. Either re-read properly or just go away. Like its such a shit narrative you're trying to push its wasting my time.
If you're going to claim I'm misinterpreting, at least do me the service of saying what I'm misunderstanding. Saying "re-read" over and over again doesn't actually help anything one way or the other. If I'm wrong on you, help me find you. Otherwise, keep up whatever this is.
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I HAVE THOUGH?Xanjori wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 12:45 pmI just said you're probably town. I think you're losing sight of anything actually AI in this thread and you arent being suspicious of people at all, nor re-examining when I point things out so that counts against you, but I wouldnt say its wolf indicative yet.
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you asked me about my scumread on psv and ive given it to you
literally all 3 of the people i talked with you about, i said i could probably move them with more interactions with them




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No thats the point of mafia. I say "You misunderstood." If you're town you re-read and then if you still dont get it you ask "Im looking at it and what am I missing?" If you arent town you continue to push your narrative with no re-eval at all.Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 12:46 pmRather be boring than rude.Xanjori wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 12:43 pmSeanzie wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 12:42 pmSorry, but no. Your posts reek of trying to push Delta. Saying they'd want you out D1, questioning my townread of them, the way you're questioning their reads, your penumbra reeks of "I want Delta out" but you aren't doing anything about it, and instead you're just trying to push them off you, and now OMGUSing me because of the situation.Spoiler: show
Holy fuck you're boring. Either re-read properly or just go away. Like its such a shit narrative you're trying to push its wasting my time.
If you're going to claim I'm misinterpreting, at least do me the service of saying what I'm misunderstanding. Saying "re-read" over and over again doesn't actually help anything one way or the other. If I'm wrong on you, help me find you. Otherwise, keep up whatever this is.
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Re: Turtle Mafia
samac wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 10:14 amReally? You don’t think it’s the easiest laziest way to catch scum?falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 10:10 amsamac wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 10:05 amOkay.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 9:59 am
So Neon is pushing NAI for an easy D1 mislynch, eh?
And you're doing nothing about it
[VOTE: samac] aubergine
What was your thought of her vote?
I think pressuring players who pop in w/ fluff posts is exactly what I'd like to see from town
I’m not even saying it as a Zenon or you wolf - just that putting pressure on a slot that isn’t in thread doesn’t seem to move things much in my experience.
Do you often find wolves through convoluted means?
we can't stop here...this is bat country!
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Your explanations do come across as super hedgey for all 3 of those reads though, which isnt particularly a good look for you
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No, I feel like you're more likely town because you're allowing people to pocket you and thats giving you issues with fully examining, especially when you're too worried about my alignment and because Ive made no attempt at pocketing you.
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Seanzie: *literally asks what I am missing*Xanjori wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 12:47 pmNo thats the point of mafia. I say "You misunderstood." If you're town you re-read and then if you still dont get it you ask "Im looking at it and what am I missing?" If you arent town you continue to push your narrative with no re-eval at all.Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 12:46 pmRather be boring than rude.Xanjori wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 12:43 pmSeanzie wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 12:42 pmSorry, but no. Your posts reek of trying to push Delta. Saying they'd want you out D1, questioning my townread of them, the way you're questioning their reads, your penumbra reeks of "I want Delta out" but you aren't doing anything about it, and instead you're just trying to push them off you, and now OMGUSing me because of the situation.Spoiler: show
Holy fuck you're boring. Either re-read properly or just go away. Like its such a shit narrative you're trying to push its wasting my time.
If you're going to claim I'm misinterpreting, at least do me the service of saying what I'm misunderstanding. Saying "re-read" over and over again doesn't actually help anything one way or the other. If I'm wrong on you, help me find you. Otherwise, keep up whatever this is.
Xanjori: "ask what you're missing!" without elaborating on what I am missing.
smh
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and suddenly xan is going back into the 'rabid' tier while i try to work out what his goal is

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Xanjori wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 10:17 amThis is terrible reasoning, I was clearly around until I wasn't. No vote is going to wake me up so there is no pressure being applied is there. Trying to back it up is just an attempt at pocketing someone you can see has already started with an incorrect votefalcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 10:10 amsamac wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 10:05 amOkay.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 9:59 am
So Neon is pushing NAI for an easy D1 mislynch, eh?
And you're doing nothing about it
[VOTE: samac] aubergine
What was your thought of her vote?
I think pressuring players who pop in w/ fluff posts is exactly what I'd like to see from town
Oh, so you ARE responding to pressure.
Noted.
And if you're gonna accuse me of pocketing and that I'm aware they have an incorrect vote, then you'd best vote me out, eh?
Since there's no towny motivation to do so
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Like... I am literally asking you to tell me what I am misinterpreting. Come on, man, work with me here.Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 12:49 pmSeanzie: *literally asks what I am missing*Xanjori wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 12:47 pmNo thats the point of mafia. I say "You misunderstood." If you're town you re-read and then if you still dont get it you ask "Im looking at it and what am I missing?" If you arent town you continue to push your narrative with no re-eval at all.Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 12:46 pmRather be boring than rude.Xanjori wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 12:43 pmSeanzie wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 12:42 pmSorry, but no. Your posts reek of trying to push Delta. Saying they'd want you out D1, questioning my townread of them, the way you're questioning their reads, your penumbra reeks of "I want Delta out" but you aren't doing anything about it, and instead you're just trying to push them off you, and now OMGUSing me because of the situation.Spoiler: show
Holy fuck you're boring. Either re-read properly or just go away. Like its such a shit narrative you're trying to push its wasting my time.
If you're going to claim I'm misinterpreting, at least do me the service of saying what I'm misunderstanding. Saying "re-read" over and over again doesn't actually help anything one way or the other. If I'm wrong on you, help me find you. Otherwise, keep up whatever this is.
Xanjori: "ask what you're missing!" without elaborating on what I am missing.
smh
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do not try to just play off like im just paranoid
no
go away

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What makes you think Im responding to pressure? Especially when Samac looked at your post and came to the same conclusion I did? Is Samac also responding to the pressure on me from not you by responding to just specifically you?falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 12:50 pmSpoiler: show
Oh, so you ARE responding to pressure.
Noted.
And if you're gonna accuse me of pocketing and that I'm aware they have an incorrect vote, then you'd best vote me out, eh?
Since there's no towny motivation to do so
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You are paranoid. Which is usually a extremely clear sign that you're town. In fact Id say its your biggest town tell.Delta wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 12:50 pmdo not try to just play off like im just paranoid
no
go away
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wilgy so far has felt really
huh
for a lack of better words
like i get not being up to date with the thread and all thats fine
but his posting so far feels
weird
someone tell me im not crazy on that
i dont want to say wilgys a wolf until i can get an idea of what his reads are
but hes being odd
huh
for a lack of better words
like i get not being up to date with the thread and all thats fine
but his posting so far feels
weird
someone tell me im not crazy on that
i dont want to say wilgys a wolf until i can get an idea of what his reads are
but hes being odd

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like what he has posted thus far has been 'am turtle. please let me sheep you' and joining the xan vote

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Wilgy's kinda weird. I haven't figured out how to read him yet, and I've played a good few handfuls of games with him.Delta wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 12:54 pm wilgy so far has felt really
huh
for a lack of better words
like i get not being up to date with the thread and all thats fine
but his posting so far feels
weird
someone tell me im not crazy on that
i dont want to say wilgys a wolf until i can get an idea of what his reads are
but hes being odd
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Waitin' to hear from you.
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I think I'm reasonably paranoid of you hereXanjori wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 12:53 pmYou are paranoid. Which is usually a extremely clear sign that you're town. In fact Id say its your biggest town tell.Delta wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 12:50 pmdo not try to just play off like im just paranoid
no
go away
Because how you've approached solving me so far feels like such bad faith
Like you shade posts of mine but ignore anything I've said that would be genuinely alignment indicative
Proclaim your god read on me but go nowhere with it
When held at fuckin gunpoint to go read something from me, the answers I give you you just dismiss as hedgey
But you still tell me I'm town and I'm being too paranoid about you
I dont get what your goal is here if you're town because you feel really inconsistent with your approach to me

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Read what I was responding to. Ofc there is no attempt at a got'cha. Im pointing out why for w!delta getting rid of me day 1 would be a good thing. I have no idea how you can come to any other conclusion to be frank.Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 12:12 pmIf this is true, you should know whether or not Delta is mafia, but this post isn't a "gotcha", it's a "get off my back or else". Why is that?
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sorry if you wanted me to just be paranoid for however long this phase is
I'm aware its a towntell of mine but it's also the biggest weakness in my town play because I get too worried about my own reads
I'm trying to work on it and find a happy medium
Soz about your free read on me if you're town, you're gonna have to work for it here
I'm aware its a towntell of mine but it's also the biggest weakness in my town play because I get too worried about my own reads
I'm trying to work on it and find a happy medium
Soz about your free read on me if you're town, you're gonna have to work for it here

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Sure you can feel like Im being inconsistent. But right now Ive got you locked in as town and I didnt even have to rely on a half-baked reads list to do that. So whos method is working here?Delta wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 12:56 pmI think I'm reasonably paranoid of you hereSpoiler: show
Because how you've approached solving me so far feels like such bad faith
Like you shade posts of mine but ignore anything I've said that would be genuinely alignment indicative
Proclaim your god read on me but go nowhere with it
When held at fuckin gunpoint to go read something from me, the answers I give you you just dismiss as hedgey
But you still tell me I'm town and I'm being too paranoid about you
I dont get what your goal is here if you're town because you feel really inconsistent with your approach to me
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see the thing is you made a specific point of going 'I read you perfectly when you're a wolf with absolutely nothing to go off of' when your point wouldve held up just as fine with just 'me dying benefits you because i can read you well' and that's what's weird about it. because that specific point comes across as if you have that read nowXanjori wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 12:58 pmRead what I was responding to. Ofc there is no attempt at a got'cha. Im pointing out why for w!delta getting rid of me day 1 would be a good thing. I have no idea how you can come to any other conclusion to be frank.Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 12:12 pmIf this is true, you should know whether or not Delta is mafia, but this post isn't a "gotcha", it's a "get off my back or else". Why is that?

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What are we, 12 players? I now only have ten to worry about and more than that once youve got your head in the game Ill be able to trust your reads lists, because Ive told you you tend to produce good reads. Think of it as this is now a hydra game, without your consent.Delta wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 12:58 pm sorry if you wanted me to just be paranoid for however long this phase is
I'm aware its a towntell of mine but it's also the biggest weakness in my town play because I get too worried about my own reads
I'm trying to work on it and find a happy medium
Soz about your free read on me if you're town, you're gonna have to work for it here
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you didnt lock shit in that timeframe what the fuckXanjori wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 12:59 pmSure you can feel like Im being inconsistent. But right now Ive got you locked in as town and I didnt even have to rely on a half-baked reads list to do that. So whos method is working here?Delta wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 12:56 pmI think I'm reasonably paranoid of you hereSpoiler: show
Because how you've approached solving me so far feels like such bad faith
Like you shade posts of mine but ignore anything I've said that would be genuinely alignment indicative
Proclaim your god read on me but go nowhere with it
When held at fuckin gunpoint to go read something from me, the answers I give you you just dismiss as hedgey
But you still tell me I'm town and I'm being too paranoid about you
I dont get what your goal is here if you're town because you feel really inconsistent with your approach to me
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you dont have me as locked town for that
you wouldve locked me as town earlier on or not at all

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If you dont bait the hook the fish dont bite.Delta wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 1:00 pmsee the thing is you made a specific point of going 'I read you perfectly when you're a wolf with absolutely nothing to go off of' when your point wouldve held up just as fine with just 'me dying benefits you because i can read you well' and that's what's weird about it. because that specific point comes across as if you have that read nowXanjori wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 12:58 pmRead what I was responding to. Ofc there is no attempt at a got'cha. Im pointing out why for w!delta getting rid of me day 1 would be a good thing. I have no idea how you can come to any other conclusion to be frank.Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 12:12 pmIf this is true, you should know whether or not Delta is mafia, but this post isn't a "gotcha", it's a "get off my back or else". Why is that?
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If what you said was true, you should have had a read on Delta by then. If you read them as town at that point, your post makes no sense. If you read them as wolf at that point, your post makes no sense. That is the conclusion I came to.Xanjori wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 12:58 pmRead what I was responding to. Ofc there is no attempt at a got'cha. Im pointing out why for w!delta getting rid of me day 1 would be a good thing. I have no idea how you can come to any other conclusion to be frank.Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 12:12 pmIf this is true, you should know whether or not Delta is mafia, but this post isn't a "gotcha", it's a "get off my back or else". Why is that?
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we are not doing masons go away get out of my headXanjori wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 1:00 pmWhat are we, 12 players? I now only have ten to worry about and more than that once youve got your head in the game Ill be able to trust your reads lists, because Ive told you you tend to produce good reads. Think of it as this is now a hydra game, without your consent.Delta wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 12:58 pm sorry if you wanted me to just be paranoid for however long this phase is
I'm aware its a towntell of mine but it's also the biggest weakness in my town play because I get too worried about my own reads
I'm trying to work on it and find a happy medium
Soz about your free read on me if you're town, you're gonna have to work for it here

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No because nearly everything he had said (to my memory) was NAI. And his reads list could have been from a wolf or a pocketed town. I now know he is simply pocketed town.Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 1:01 pmIf what you said was true, you should have had a read on Delta by then. If you read them as town at that point, your post makes no sense. If you read them as wolf at that point, your post makes no sense. That is the conclusion I came to.Xanjori wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 12:58 pmRead what I was responding to. Ofc there is no attempt at a got'cha. Im pointing out why for w!delta getting rid of me day 1 would be a good thing. I have no idea how you can come to any other conclusion to be frank.Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 12:12 pmIf this is true, you should know whether or not Delta is mafia, but this post isn't a "gotcha", it's a "get off my back or else". Why is that?
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idk if there's an actual way to unvote but just take this as a post of me unvoting
im so confused by what xan's doing though
this is targeted bullying he's trying to get into my head
im so confused by what xan's doing though
this is targeted bullying he's trying to get into my head

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Yeah, no. Delta's 125 posts are not all NAI. You've been paying enough attention to them to know that. This is fake.Xanjori wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 1:02 pmNo because nearly everything he had said (to my memory) was NAI. And his reads list could have been from a wolf or a pocketed town. I now know he is simply pocketed town.Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 1:01 pmIf what you said was true, you should have had a read on Delta by then. If you read them as town at that point, your post makes no sense. If you read them as wolf at that point, your post makes no sense. That is the conclusion I came to.Xanjori wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 12:58 pmRead what I was responding to. Ofc there is no attempt at a got'cha. Im pointing out why for w!delta getting rid of me day 1 would be a good thing. I have no idea how you can come to any other conclusion to be frank.Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 12:12 pmIf this is true, you should know whether or not Delta is mafia, but this post isn't a "gotcha", it's a "get off my back or else". Why is that?
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I assume you have to swap your vote to the bottom thing. But I also dont get why you're so confused. Is there anything in what Ive said to you recently that seems off to you, or like Ive jumped to an incomplete conclusion? Dr Xanjori has just psycho-analyzed you and knows you're one of the good guys. Anyway ignore me for a bit and talk to me about the others.
What did you think of mine and Samacs mindmeld on Falcon? Especially with how theyve re-entered the thread at a later date.
What do you think of Seanzie's whole take on everything?
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Hey delta. Remember how in champs I made a push on someone and then gave a terrible reason for voting them?
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everything you've said to me feels off. your pivot from shading me to locking me as town feels off.Xanjori wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 1:06 pmI assume you have to swap your vote to the bottom thing. But I also dont get why you're so confused. Is there anything in what Ive said to you recently that seems off to you, or like Ive jumped to an incomplete conclusion? Dr Xanjori has just psycho-analyzed you and knows you're one of the good guys. Anyway ignore me for a bit and talk to me about the others.
What did you think of mine and Samacs mindmeld on Falcon? Especially with how theyve re-entered the thread at a later date.
What do you think of Seanzie's whole take on everything?
you feel off.
but sure I'll entertain this
I think the mindmeld is fine considering I think sam is town and heavily doubt you/sam are w/w - probably something I should look into but I'm wary of you so I dont really. want to rn. with due respect. <3
I think seanzie's reaction to you is just mine but a little stronger. does that mean I'm being pocketed? POSSIBLY. but I think it also could indicate that there's something up with you and I'm not being entirely paranoid about you for no reason.

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Boy, I wonder who I will believe here.
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I remember you setting up to push ghug for something and then dropping it
almost like how you dropped you setting up your godread stuff on me just to drop it because i posted a few question marks


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I remember you setting up to push ghug for something and then dropping it
almost like how you dropped you setting up your godread stuff on me just to drop it because i posted a few question marks

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I did just godread you lol, as town.
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I hate fucking up quotes.
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I joke but there genuinely is a fair bit of stuff in my ISO that I would consider indicative of how I play town
there's a reason I'm being townread here you know T_T

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I did just godread you lol, as town.
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its not a godread if there's tmi involved, wolf

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Tell me how many games you just won in a row as a wolf?
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tell me how many of them I was townread in?Xanjori wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 1:13 pmTell me how many games you just won in a row as a wolf?
half of my wolf game is being scumread and surviving anyway
you know that. you read the games. where do you think you got that godread from? >:I

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Re: Turtle Mafia
Nah, he dropped it because I pointed out he was telegraphing an eventual scumread on you, which made him have to pivot.Delta wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 1:11 pmI remember you setting up to push ghug for something and then dropping it
almost like how you dropped you setting up your godread stuff on me just to drop it because i posted a few question marks
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