Se7en Mafia [GAME OVER- MAFIA WIN]

[RondoDimBuckle]

Second, whomever blocked me last night, youre a salty bitch

who do you think it was?

[Thunal33]

Mata has had some points where they have said things and I just nod and say "yep that follows and it feels like they have thought that through and believe it"

Honestly I had thought similar about Mata at different points, especially when she talked about Mac being JD. If she knows or thinks Mac is town, that's a fight that's incredibly stacked in Mac's favor and imo not something evil Mata would try to instigate. It's quite possible Mata is evil that genuinely thought Mac was bad but I think it lowers the odds somewhat.

[Thunal33]

What did you do last night? @Thunal33

I tried to copy Nanook's night action or get the result of it, which both only work under specific conditions. I got a feedback of "no result".

[RondoDimBuckle]

Mata has had some points where they have said things and I just nod and say "yep that follows and it feels like they have thought that through and believe it"

Honestly I had thought similar about Mata at different points, especially when she talked about Mac being JD. If she knows or thinks Mac is town, that's a fight that's incredibly stacked in Mac's favor and imo not something evil Mata would try to instigate. It's quite possible Mata is evil that genuinely thought Mac was bad but I think it lowers the odds somewhat.

Mata is goodBut what if bad?

[Thunal33]

Mata has had some points where they have said things and I just nod and say "yep that follows and it feels like they have thought that through and believe it"

Honestly I had thought similar about Mata at different points, especially when she talked about Mac being JD. If she knows or thinks Mac is town, that's a fight that's incredibly stacked in Mac's favor and imo not something evil Mata would try to instigate. It's quite possible Mata is evil that genuinely thought Mac was bad but I think it lowers the odds somewhat.

Mata is goodBut what if bad?

If you're trying to say vocalizing different scenarios is wolfy, it's a game with so many different possibilities that of course I can and should think through them as town.

[RondoDimBuckle]

Mata has had some points where they have said things and I just nod and say "yep that follows and it feels like they have thought that through and believe it"

Honestly I had thought similar about Mata at different points, especially when she talked about Mac being JD. If she knows or thinks Mac is town, that's a fight that's incredibly stacked in Mac's favor and imo not something evil Mata would try to instigate. It's quite possible Mata is evil that genuinely thought Mac was bad but I think it lowers the odds somewhat.

Mata is goodBut what if bad?

If you're trying to say vocalizing different scenarios is wolfy, it's a game with so many different possibilities that of course I can and should think through them as town.

Its more who are you posting that for? I have already said I think Mata is good. Are you trying to make me doubt my read or are you trying to get it into thread for others to read that Mata could be a bad person and oh no lets not trust her this lylo? We are supposed to be narrowing the pool not extending it arent we?

[RondoDimBuckle]

Also someone targeted me last night. Anyone want to own up to it?

[RondoDimBuckle]

Not a good look for Thunal to just kinda bail after I start asking the hard questions

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Second, whomever blocked me last night, youre a salty bitch

who do you think it was?

Dunno, but it ruined something hilarious

[Michelle]

ok so SVS + Wilgy + Me + ? + ? fmpov

Mata? Thunal?

Why Svs?

[RondoDimBuckle]

ok so SVS + Wilgy + Me + ? + ? fmpov

Mata? Thunal?

Why Svs?

why not?

[Michelle]

DrWilgy - Town
Dubz - Sin(John Doe?)
falcon45ca - Sin
Matahari - Town
Michelle - Town(John Doe?)
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME - Sin
RondoDimBuckle - Town
S~V~S - Town
Thunal33 - Sin


What do people think about this?

I want details about SVS.
Why do you tinfoil me?

Second, whomever blocked me last night, youre a salty bitch

I didn't, but I appreciate the epithet so I wish I did it.
Why salty though?

[Michelle]

ok so SVS + Wilgy + Me + ? + ? fmpov

Mata? Thunal?

Why Svs?

why not?

My own impression is that she can be a sin. That's because she put me low in reads but I disliked the reason. Too much meta in it.

[RondoDimBuckle]

Seanzie had a chat with Kate, Kate was sold that Seanzie was sin, kate said SVS is likely not sin, Kate is inscentivised to tell other sins who other sins are and are not. Seanzie flipped green. why would he lie? Kate is the best SVS reader that I know

[Michelle]

Seanzie had a chat with Kate, Kate was sold that Seanzie was sin, kate said SVS is likely not sin, Kate is inscentivised to tell other sins who other sins are and are not. Seanzie flipped green. why would he lie? Kate is the best SVS reader that I know

Kate was a sin, would she tell the truth about SVS?

[RondoDimBuckle]

Seanzie had a chat with Kate, Kate was sold that Seanzie was sin, kate said SVS is likely not sin, Kate is inscentivised to tell other sins who other sins are and are not. Seanzie flipped green. why would he lie? Kate is the best SVS reader that I know

Kate was a sin, would she tell the truth about SVS?

You're asking the wrong question.

Why would she lie to another Sin? She throught Seanzie was a sin.

[Michelle]

Michelle
1
14%
Voters: NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME

Nanook voted me just in the poll.

I know he said yday he will vote me, but he doesn't have any explanation for his sudden urge to kill me.

[VOTE: Nook] aubergine

Come talk to me if you are town, if not do whatever you want @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME

[Michelle]

Seanzie had a chat with Kate, Kate was sold that Seanzie was sin, kate said SVS is likely not sin, Kate is inscentivised to tell other sins who other sins are and are not. Seanzie flipped green. why would he lie? Kate is the best SVS reader that I know

Kate was a sin, would she tell the truth about SVS?

You're asking the wrong question.

Why would she lie to another Sin? She throught Seanzie was a sin.

Conclusion is, sins don't know each other.
I can accept that Kate gave a honest read for SVS. But it's just a read. I don't remember if Svs suspected Kate, because I presume also Svs can read Kate well

[RondoDimBuckle]

Seanzie had a chat with Kate, Kate was sold that Seanzie was sin, kate said SVS is likely not sin, Kate is inscentivised to tell other sins who other sins are and are not. Seanzie flipped green. why would he lie? Kate is the best SVS reader that I know

Kate was a sin, would she tell the truth about SVS?

You're asking the wrong question.

Why would she lie to another Sin? She throught Seanzie was a sin.

Conclusion is, sins don't know each other.
I can accept that Kate gave a honest read for SVS. But it's just a read. I don't remember if Svs suspected Kate, because I presume also Svs can read Kate well

I guess if kate was open and early on her suspicion of kate / dennis (Like I was) vs keeping quiet we can re-read day 1 and find out

[RondoDimBuckle]

Nook is easily a sin, but because of all the talk about him being a sin d3 it is unlikely he is JD today IF mac was right about the switching of JD

[RondoDimBuckle]

So in the Nook vs Michelle fight I am likely picking Michelle

[Michelle]

So in the Nook vs Michelle fight I am likely picking Michelle

If you wanna pick town, i agree you should pick me

Your RTs were boring and NAI, where this suspicion comes from?

[RondoDimBuckle]

boing? NAI? ME? From you doing nothing all game and just coasting in the mid range. I know michelle can obv town themselves. You have chosen not to

[RondoDimBuckle]

But also we are in lylo and everyone is fair game fmpov except wilgy 100% and svs 90%

[Michelle]

Also if JD can switch between sins, and the former shell dies, doesn't this mean it was Epi JD yday?
I don't know if Epi was in such dangee to make the jump.

Also he is one of the top tier players, he could endgame as JD, I think this theory doesn't hold water.

And it doesn't add up if you put together all the roles. JD is a distinctive player

[RondoDimBuckle]

[VOTE: Michelle ] aubergine

[Michelle]

boing? NAI? ME? From you doing nothing all game and just coasting in the mid range. I know michelle can obv town themselves. You have chosen not to

I have a life and I am busy.
I wasn't coasting. I played as much as I could.

Your never explained what was with the RTz and what's the conclusion and thinking process

[RondoDimBuckle]

RTz?

[Michelle]

[VOTE: Michelle ] aubergine

You didn't deserve my attention, I will go read some Isos

[Michelle]

RTz?

Reaction test, like when you asked what Ender would read me

That was totally meaningless

[RondoDimBuckle]

Oh, Role targets,

how do you know they were boring and NAI? Do you know my role? This seems like a perspective slip to me

[RondoDimBuckle]

RTz?

Reaction test, like when you asked what Ender would read me

That was totally meaningless

oh lol, you think that was a reaction test? cute

[Michelle]

You are ready to lose the game for a vanity read.

You think you played a solid town game? You have infos and shared them but your play was weak all game
Why Jack died and you are alive?
Jack said he can prove himself, but if you are town you live because you have a wrong perception and you push in the wrong direction, like when you voted Mac after Sean died

[RondoDimBuckle]

Vanity read? Arent all reads vanity reads?

[Michelle]

Oh, Role targets,

how do you know they were boring and NAI? Do you know my role? This seems like a perspective slip to me

Assuming things before knowing what I meant and I talked yday about it as well
Do you even care?

[Michelle]

Vanity read? Arent all reads vanity reads?

No. I have a solid reason to suspect Nook.

You just throw mud at the wall

[RondoDimBuckle]

You are ready to lose the game for a vanity read.

You think you played a solid town game? You have infos and shared them but your play was weak all game
Why Jack died and you are alive?
Jack said he can prove himself, but if you are town you live because you have a wrong perception and you push in the wrong direction, like when you voted Mac after Sean died

lol this is bad. Ive already said this. There was no world where I was actually voting Mac out. There was only the chance people think I actually think he was bad and keep him around for me to push later.

[RondoDimBuckle]

Vanity read? Arent all reads vanity reads?

No. I have a solid reason to suspect Nook.

You just throw mud at the wall

You going to share it?

[RondoDimBuckle]

Oh, Role targets,

how do you know they were boring and NAI? Do you know my role? This seems like a perspective slip to me

Assuming things before knowing what I meant and I talked yday about it as well
Do you even care?

In the grand scheme of things? No its just a game.
In the scale of this game? Sure. But Its still a game and I am going to have fun. Plus you are reacting which I am enjoying

[Michelle]

You are ready to lose the game for a vanity read.

You think you played a solid town game? You have infos and shared them but your play was weak all game
Why Jack died and you are alive?
Jack said he can prove himself, but if you are town you live because you have a wrong perception and you push in the wrong direction, like when you voted Mac after Sean died

lol this is bad. Ive already said this. There was no world where I was actually voting Mac out. There was only the chance people think I actually think he was bad and keep him around for me to push later.

The moment you did it was the worst possible

Giving mixed signals to town is not helpful. Mac couldn't be kept alive, he became a deadly force against scum already

[RondoDimBuckle]

You are ready to lose the game for a vanity read.

You think you played a solid town game? You have infos and shared them but your play was weak all game
Why Jack died and you are alive?
Jack said he can prove himself, but if you are town you live because you have a wrong perception and you push in the wrong direction, like when you voted Mac after Sean died

lol this is bad. Ive already said this. There was no world where I was actually voting Mac out. There was only the chance people think I actually think he was bad and keep him around for me to push later.

The moment you did it was the worst possible

Giving mixed signals to town is not helpful. Mac couldn't be kept alive, he became a deadly force against scum already

I disagree, it was already in the air if his tracking was at all valuable for Seanzie (It was) he was getting a lot of pushback on him calling himself town leader and just generally being town clear.

Only you can protect your town reads

[Michelle]

Oh, Role targets,

how do you know they were boring and NAI? Do you know my role? This seems like a perspective slip to me

Assuming things before knowing what I meant and I talked yday about it as well
Do you even care?

In the grand scheme of things? No its just a game.
In the scale of this game? Sure. But Its still a game and I am going to have fun. Plus you are reacting which I am enjoying

So sweet of you

Enjoy silence, I go back read.

Nook is scum because he avoided me until I voiced a suspicion on him and then he jumped with Omgus, he has zero impact on the game and town Nook regardless post count is a force, and that's only the logical part, for a solid case based on posts you have to wait

[RondoDimBuckle]

Oh, Role targets,

how do you know they were boring and NAI? Do you know my role? This seems like a perspective slip to me

Assuming things before knowing what I meant and I talked yday about it as well
Do you even care?

In the grand scheme of things? No its just a game.
In the scale of this game? Sure. But Its still a game and I am going to have fun. Plus you are reacting which I am enjoying

So sweet of you

Enjoy silence, I go back read.

Nook is scum because he avoided me until I voiced a suspicion on him and then he jumped with Omgus, he has zero impact on the game and town Nook regardless post count is a force, and that's only the logical part, for a solid case based on posts you have to wait

I dont disagree with anything here. I reckon Nook is waiting for the right moment to spread his wings and show he is town. BUT even more likely he is just bad. BUT we arent looking for a Sin we are looking for John Doe. Nook is HIGHLY unlikely to be JD

[Michelle]

Oh, Role targets,

how do you know they were boring and NAI? Do you know my role? This seems like a perspective slip to me

Assuming things before knowing what I meant and I talked yday about it as well
Do you even care?

In the grand scheme of things? No its just a game.
In the scale of this game? Sure. But Its still a game and I am going to have fun. Plus you are reacting which I am enjoying

So sweet of you

Enjoy silence, I go back read.

Nook is scum because he avoided me until I voiced a suspicion on him and then he jumped with Omgus, he has zero impact on the game and town Nook regardless post count is a force, and that's only the logical part, for a solid case based on posts you have to wait

I dont disagree with anything here. I reckon Nook is waiting for the right moment to spread his wings and show he is town. BUT even more likely he is just bad. BUT we arent looking for a Sin we are looking for John Doe. Nook is HIGHLY unlikely to be JD

He has JD equity.
Lying low all game to not upset anyone it's a strategy he would embrace as single mafia imo

[Michelle]

Talk to me about Thunal.

Have you read my tinfoil about her? What do you think about it?

[Michelle]

this is @S~V~S

Spoiler: show

Spoiler: show

Tbh I am feeling no town wim. Completely forgot about this game too lol.

Tbf, we essentially outted two wolfs in the same day but the wolves don’t have tmi. It’s hard to wim at forgone conclusions.

Yeah, I felt good with a mafia flip since I love interaction analysis and looking at spew but it's not as straightforward as I wanted it to be. I'm less confident pyxxy actually knew John Doe and if he did there's nothing I found that points to a specific John Doe. I feel a bit burnt out now.

tbf: The last day they did make a point of throwing Nook in their poe at 3:37 and then taking right out of the poe at 3:50.

They were very chummy with Kate in the thread.

then there was this:

Most, if not all, of a role’s descriptions may be revealed with lynches. However, only role names are usually revealed with any other types of kills.

I think doom could probably do things that we'll never know about*.

*Unless we chop a virtue**/a virtue info dumps which would be inadvisable at this point. Not sure if that might even count as role claiming.
**oh actually also if we chop Sloth, since it's the opposite of Diligence, maybe that role explanation would at least be a clue towards what Doom could do. really not sure it super matters though

Yay, new game! I've been excited for this one since it was posted.

I ll be reading back (only 5 pages today) and jump in later.

Oh good you're here
I will be sheeping you, at least for d1. No pressure.

I quoted this post because I wondered if (conjectures follow -->) Dubz is the lone scum but scum gets to know who the sins are and maybe can recruit them or something idk

but then Dubz didn't really interact with Dennis is a substantive/pockety way so, eh

Throwing shit out about Dubz which were probs about themselves.

Trying to pocket the shit out of Zenon and it never worked, they ended up saying she was probs a sin bc of the way she treated them.

Note SVS made a reads list with several left off, Pyx was one the ones left off of it. With Thunal and dubz saying she should have a read on them but did not.

I went back into D 1 as well with a couple but with this look I see maybe Nook? I have zero read here and he is not helpful to the town at all. SVS? (I hope not tbh) I do not feel she is bad but I cannot read her like ever.

I did leave Pyxxy off, the other two I said I had no impression of them. Pyxxy was the one who pointed out to me that I left him off my list,

[ed note: v big post that does not have my name in it]

@S~V~S boo

And I replied to him here.

Spoiler: show

Good morning everyone! I'll read and post after work but I wanted to say hi!!!

ily hi

sup
woke up

Morning!!!

I have jack and epi as town

Mac as purple guy

Zenon and falcon as purple or red guy and girl

I will keep this in mind.

Tutuu probably town as well, just vibe but good enough from one post

[VOTE: michello] aubergine

[VOTE: MacDougallo] aubergine
It's Omgus time

me and the boys on our way to kill the seven deadly sins ... @nutella

I am pocketed

Mustang killed Lust, the counterpart to Lust in this game is Chastity

so that's what Tutu is claiming

ezpz

Flavour hunting?

You know what. Fuck it. I am pocketed by tutuu

Mindmeld tbh

Tell me if it's worthy to rush and read the Sod pls Rondo

no need to rush, its a bunch of SOD as you expect, but I have my own conclusions. Worth reading tho

Ty! Noted

I love bees. I cant stop watching apiary and other bee related stuff on youtube

me too!!!!

I cant tell if you are trying to pocket me with the mindmeld stuff and now this. But also I have decided I want to be friends with everyone this game and I will just relax and let everyone else be whatever they want to be.

Here i am

A trick here, I'd never be hunting flavor in the thread if I was evil.

Derp clears don't exist.

They do exist, but I don't recommend going for them. There's other possibilities to clear someone.

I am really not in the camp of them counting as wolves yet but I am happy to work under that assumption with you Neenooneenooneenoo

Counting them as scum is a good start ig

Epi civ, Thunal sin, Mac virtue, tutuu massive sinner, DOOM virtue, zenon leaning sin, Kate the one scum, Dubz leaning sin, Scotty leaning host

ttyl

Kate mafia? How come? @pyxxy

i dont believe u

u sound evil

this sounds like a lie

ur maf

die

That's a joke, right?

Looking back I townlean this subverting expectations. Like the expected reaction would be "yeah let's catch the mafia" and it takes some level of risk of being scumread to not go with that expectation.

Interesting Pov, I like it

im on PC I CAN DO COLORS

I FORGOT MY READS LOL LET ME ISO MYSELF

Jack porscha epi thunal doom michelle

Mac Zenon falcon Dubz

What have I done to deserve that green place?

It is unfortunate that claiming is illegal in this game or I would have claimed like 5 different things by now. Its also 'unfortunate' that thunal doesnt know that about me which makes their push even funnier to me. I cant tell what angle it is yet

Illegal?
My fav thingy, I hate to claim

tutuu
3
38%
Voters: Zenon, falcon45ca, RondoDimBuckle


Spicy!!!

so you 'claim'

I claimed in that gif, I am the fluffy doggo hanging on the stairs
You get nothing more

MICHELLE CHAN ITS HARD TO RESPOND TO UR WALL I DONT WANNA QUOTE ALL OF IT

it wasnt a joke DUBZ IS EVIL

u deserved green coz I BELIEVE UR POST where you say HI to A LOT OF PEOPLE

Ook, keep me updated pls

Your enthusiasm is uncommon, or I forgot how you play... but no, you post in caps so much, what's going on?

When i say updated, i mean give me a real read when you have it.

Wolfy 4th vote on Tutuu.

Have a nice day.

Michelle is pretty far outside her scum range. Town til she ain't

Shushhhh don't tell everyone

ah okay here, let me help you make this kind of post NAI for you

[VOTE: Wilgy] aubergine

bad vote pyxxy

Ily Thunal

Kate why Pyxxy said you're mafia?

Kate why Pyxxy said you're mafia?

@Kate
@pyxxy pls answer as well

I don't know. But I'm not.

I believe you

So.eone, pls.

Tooooties? @tutuu ?

I never watched the movie but the gif is from Fullmetal Alchemist where the 7 sins are villain characters

What exactly was the slip? Can you quote?

Idk what to make of tutuu at all, is this how they always play?

Every game is different. There's a good vibe, but I played last time with tutuu long ago

tutuu
4
40%
Voters: Zenon, falcon45ca, DrWilgy, RondoDimBuckle

Wagon getting even spicyer

What's so spicy about it?




Which vote is the spicy-est?

Idk.
There's a theory that the wolves would help in making an early wagon to show activity, or a wolf pissed enough townies to get a wagon.
But in this game things are weird.
Tutuu is weird, game mechanics are weird, so the theory remains just a theory.

Tutuu with a wagon is spicy anyway, I don't remember a wagon on town!tutuu so early

Is a tutuu wagon in particular spicy or is it just the existence of any 4-person wagon?

The first one fmpov

So these are my posts who Roxy found "off" and Svs has a meta read who I have zero intent to fight with because is a personal view, Epi is sheeping that and I will let you do whatever your bloodlust wants and I will go to sleep.

Legacy is Mac is bad.
Tutuu most probably the same.

My vote stays on Mac

I revisited my own post from this AM, and realized that comparing you to a game where you had BTS isn’t really fair. My main concern was that post where you asked Kate about Pyxxy, it really felt to me like you were trying to get her to react. And when you answered me n that you said you WERE doing that.

Fair enough. I’m unvoting you. I’ll revote when I get home from work in a bit (I’m in a shoprite parking lot now lol).

@pyxxy i didn’t intentionally leave you out I was running late and meant to add you to the list with Dubz and Thunal, people I have no read on that I should have a read on.

This would be a pretty poor example of me intentionally avoiding a potential teammate in the thread (this is what you're getting at here, right?) and it happened Day 1, before anyone had BTS, based on Scottys rules, in any case. I am also surprised to see you say you can't read me. I don't think that is the case.

Do not be surprised. You are a hell of a player while I *do* believe you are town I cannot be 100% bc you are not fingersplints the only one I am ever sure of but even she can fool me like she did in a recent game when she was bad.

So no you are not in my POE nor in my tinfoils. That's bc I *think* you are indeed town. Sorry I was reading ISO's and tend to touch on stuff as I do it. I do agree that it was odd that Thunal nor dubz said nothing about it.

This is a second opinion for Svs town here

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Michelle
1
14%
Voters: NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME

Nanook voted me just in the poll.

I know he said yday he will vote me, but he doesn't have any explanation for his sudden urge to kill me.

[VOTE: Nook] aubergine

Come talk to me if you are town, if not do whatever you want @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME

We both know how I read you lol

[Michelle]

Michelle
1
14%
Voters: NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME

Nanook voted me just in the poll.

I know he said yday he will vote me, but he doesn't have any explanation for his sudden urge to kill me.

[VOTE: Nook] aubergine

Come talk to me if you are town, if not do whatever you want @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME

We both know how I read you lol

We both know how that read is just fabricated

[Michelle]

Give ne your reads nook

[Michelle]

Give me your reads nook

@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME