Se7en Mafia [GAME OVER- MAFIA WIN]

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Michelle
1
14%
Voters: NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME

Nanook voted me just in the poll.

I know he said yday he will vote me, but he doesn't have any explanation for his sudden urge to kill me.

[VOTE: Nook] aubergine

Come talk to me if you are town, if not do whatever you want @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME

We both know how I read you lol

We both know how that read is just fabricated

It's been accurate each time so far

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Give me your reads nook

@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME

You >rand mafia

Thunal town

Rondo town

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Post 60+ times today and I'll flip my read lol

[Michelle]

Post 60+ times today and I'll flip my read lol

Do i look like I care about your read on me?

Give me your reads nook

@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME

You >rand mafia

Thunal town

Rondo town

Explain how you have just 3 reads at this time of the game.

Also just explain the reads. Don't come at me with post count reads, I want your thoughts

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Post 60+ times today and I'll flip my read lol

Do i look like I care about your read on me?

Give me your reads nook

@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME

You >rand mafia

Thunal town

Rondo town

Explain how you have just 3 reads at this time of the game.

Also just explain the reads. Don't come at me with post count reads, I want your thoughts

Sometimes my thoughts are post counts lol

In order

Post count
I used to be good at reading her
He gives me townRondo vibes, it's not super confident cause it's rondo, but I think he's somewhat >rand town

[Michelle]

Post 60+ times today and I'll flip my read lol

Do i look like I care about your read on me?

Give me your reads nook

@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME

You >rand mafia

Thunal town

Rondo town

Explain how you have just 3 reads at this time of the game.

Also just explain the reads. Don't come at me with post count reads, I want your thoughts

Sometimes my thoughts are post counts lol

In order

Post count
I used to be good at reading her
He gives me townRondo vibes, it's not super confident cause it's rondo, but I think he's somewhat >rand town

In order
Fabricated
Not enough for this game, explain
General sentence you can say about almost anyone in any game

Like come on, nook, do you really think you can mischop me with post count alarm bells?





Unrelated and condensing posts because I have a post limit

i suppose my poe sans kate and dennis is

wilgy
rondo
nook
thunal
falcon

Tutuu's Poe

i suppose my poe sans kate and dennis is

wilgy
rondo
nook
thunal
falcon

Kate's reaction

What do you think about this reaction @ everyone?

[Michelle]

Oh, I should also say that there were times where I felt like Kate thought I was John Doe, and just not wanting to out that until she was actually recruited to my faction.

Kate implied the sins knew each other but Sean ssys here they didn't know who JD is

[Michelle]

After Mac and Sean revealed their results is interesting to read the day
Making wall posts to not reach post cap

Spoiler: show

btw I just won a game as 3rd party offsite and i posted a lot. Also I am sure I posted enough in the League game at MU when nook was host and I rand mafia with Pyxxy.
Post count read is so unnecessary, game 6 this year had an f3 of 2 low posters town and one high poster wolf.
SBPC and dry meta reads like pyxxy posted for nook don't imply deeper meta analysis and show lack of care for the game.
Nook did it as town a couple of times but also did it as wolf every single time when he rand wolf.
He knows is throwing me off because it's a way to look down on me and I can't stand to have anyone implying I can't post regardless alignaments.
He said he lifts the sus if i post 60 times, that's so lame because it's again desconsidering any game input I could have and relies only on number of posts. Like.. how come is this AI???
Rant over

Wow why didn't I ever thibk of just reading the thread. Silly me!

Sean outed her with an assist from Mac. Quickest way to find it is to ISO Sean, that's what i did when I walked into this last night.

Ill take your word for it, that sounds like too much reading for me today

*Nook's entire solve breaks the game wide open*

*Nook acts non-chalant*

I think this is scum-indicative for Nook. I could be wrong, but this feels more like Nook feigning indifference, rather than actual town!Nook indifference.

Sean and Jake both suspected nook

Why are there 9 on Kate?

Asking in a non-partnered way.

lmao nook posted exactly like this when we were wolfing together and lily got mech outed

putting nook in the sin bin

Pixxy was already mafia or anyway a sin and couldn’t predict he would die, would he have pushed Nook here if Nook is bad?

Answer is probably yes. Pyxxy could do a reverse psychology play here anyway. Or a bus/distancing play because nook wasn't a beacon of towniness and received many SRs

Why are there 9 on Kate?

Asking in a non-partnered way.

Back to this. Why would nook say that if not for wifom?

Spoiler: show

like obviously it's preferable to killing town but

what if killing sins is like entirely not beneficial, or worse yet helps John Doe?

any chance you've got a theme/setup/movie-plot-related reason to think this

I watched the first episode of Twin Peaks instead of Se7en without knowing that ep 1 was basically as long as a movie

back on the topic at hand

from what Seanzie said it didn't seem like Kate had a way to win with town

Things I learned from Kate that could be useful (take everything with a grain of salt since Kate was suspicious of my motives, but I do think there were times where she was trusting me enough that most of this is likely true).

1.) She can win as sole survivor or with mafia.
2.) SVS is 90% town (I think Kate said this in earnest)
3.) She said her and Greed exchanged roles. idk what to make of this.
4.) She has an ability but I think it is perhaps best for me not to share the details on it.

hmmmmmm okay so grain of salt like Seanzie said, but iirc Seanzie said he was posing as a sin? so (heavy fan theories here -->) maybe Seanzie did something like say that he could win alone or with scum, and then Kate went "oh yeah samesies Seanzies"

this might be worth asking Seanzie to speak further on, I don't think it would reveal much and it might help confirm how much to trust point #1

re: #2, after being in a game with Kate and SVS, can confirm they can accurate snipe each other, so if I believe #1 then I'm inclined to believe #2

idk about #3/dont wanna hear about #4 atm

I asked Kate how she won and she answered before I told her my fake wincon. I think sins can turn into mafia somehow and likely more than one sin can win with mafia.

It's obviously by now that all sins can win with or turn mafia after a while, and the choice is theirs or they become mafia if some conditions are met without them doing anything or them doing the required actions..

I believe that if JD could recruit, Epi would have flipped red, so the conversion is not in his powers


Took me a while to do this because busy day and all, I will be back later in the day, maybe I can have someone to change ideas with, but now thread is too silent.
Laters!

[S~V~S]

Okay, I'm not sure what the post cap is for me, so I just won't make any correction posts, I'll try to proof read better. I am far from a high poster, not sure why I'd be post capped by anyone.

I KNEW Epignosis was a sin, with that "self imposed" condition he was trying to meet on Day One. In Felt, he had a choice of being town or being bad, and he chose wolf. Since Wrath in the film was actually a cop, I think he either might have had an option similar to Dennis to join either town or the wolves, or to straight up join town.

In retrospect, I especially enjoy the post he made thanking me for explaining a nuance about someone elses post that specifically alluded to Wrath. Well Done! @Epignosis

Spoiler: show

ok so SVS + Wilgy + Me + ? + ? fmpov

Mata? Thunal?

Why Svs?

why not?

My own impression is that she can be a sin. That's because she put me low in reads but I disliked the reason. Too much meta in it.

Um, all of my day one reads were meta, I switched from you for meta reasons; Tutuus game was zero like the one game I played with her while she was town where she made straight to the point comments and discussed her reads without qualifiers. 100% meta.

Day one was, imo, an uninformed town and a bunch of lost wolves.

This reads a tiny bit like OMGUS; you've been harboring a grudge against me this whole time over this, not just since I had you in my POE? And I did 100% suspect you Day One over meta; on day one, you looked exactly to me like you did in Anniversary. But that was kinda unfair since I believed that no one had BTS, and I was suspecting you by comparing you to a bad version of you that had had BTS. That was totally meta, and on Day One, you kinda gave me a pass for it. So I'm a bit confuzzled by the dichotomy here.

I am a heavily meta reliant player, and am open about that. Do you find all of my suspicions questionable for that, or only my suspicions of you?

And I know you post vote counts; but that's ALL I remember you doing in Anniversary; that's why I pointed it out. "I'm a helpful civvie". You would pop in after being afk for 12 hours, post a VC and leave. You looked a bit like that to me here at the time I said that, but reading back, you have had more topical content than I recalled.

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As for Kate, we had agreed after Hot Dog fingers to never cold read each other again. It kinda ruined our game there, it was no fun explaining over and over again how this was a thing, and being suspected for it. And while winning is good, fun is better. We don't want it to be a thing anymore. But I did include her as town in my Day One reads list. She fooled me, but in my defense, if you played or spectated Scooby Doo, she was an excellent Lost Wolf there becasue she could pretend to be town.

I would have been annoyed had she cold read me in thread, and I don't recall her making a reads list.

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@RondoDimBuckle

Before I launch into this, I'm gonna say I am 99.9% positive you are town, and have thought so since Day One. The post where you asked me if you still scared me. I am a notoriously pocketable person. Bad Rondo would have been more concerned with looking like he was pocketing, imo. I don't think "Waiting to Join the Baddies" Rondo would have made that post, either.

I need to know, why do you think it's your job to set the POE? I looked at your posts, and you made one post where Mata was your second tier of town before today. I came into today set on looking at Mata, and seeing what she said now that Mac is revealed to be town. That's been her entire thing. I think we need to reexamine everyone, including me, including you. Including Mata.

I am curious to see Thunals answers to your questions, but don't understand your reaction to a suspish of Mata. Unless you have mech, which I am going to assume is the case, becasue I'm not sure what is informing your read otherwise.

Roxy, who has known Mata longer than anyone, had her firmly in the POE and for solid reasons. Like here:

Spoiler: show

Roxy i don't care about self meta, i explained my suspicion on Nanook in that post

Also if you don't solve the low posters and you kill them all at one moment you don't have enough mischops if you're wrong about them.

I prefer to give time to people who warm up later in a game.
Wilgy is one of them. Matahari seems focused on solving. Do you think i am pocketed by them?

What do you think about my tinfoils?
@Roxy

I like your tinfoil inre: Nook. I need to read Seanzie tbh.

Tinfoil inre: Mac. I disagree what does it serve him to do this? If he is wrong on a town then maybe but right now he helped hand us two sins. He was the first to bring up Kate/Dennis *then* Seanzie confirmed it all. I get you believe he gets to end game that way if he is JD but coming out as a Town Tracker with the info on sins would only hurt JD -not- help him. Besides someone could have said hey wait a minute that's my ability and no one has counter claimed.

Tinfoil inre: Thunal - yeah I have it too which I am sure you have read. I am trying to look past and see what she will come up with but so far it is just little things I continue to question for my own ease of mind. Like her saying that she had read pyx and didn't see anything there yet I found the Nook stuff. Or saying we are doing well - we aren't.

Your read of low posters: well I am a champion of low posters as I am usually one myself but this game is so intriguing I cannot stay away like other games.

So for Wigly I see he claimed to get the last btsc with Seanzie before he died no one counter claimed but I still have misgivings where he is concerned.

Mata - I need way more from her she is dragging her feet this game I am getting anxious where she is concerned. She has zero reads? Really having a hard time holding onto a town read for her.

falcon: I have no idea why you think he is normal this game - he isn't. I can read falcon fairly well and I really think he is a sin if not JD.

dubz: well I do not know what to say I keep waiting but so far I have seen nothing that makes me go "oh right that is town". I have not played with them though I did host them (I think) fingersplints has made me cohost way too many Mountainous games lately.

I am not sure I understand your vote for Michelle. I feel better about her than I did, you feel worse?

I will be around tonight, and I will be around all day tomorrow, it's supposed to rain.

One quick thing, I know it's not proof of anything, it's just a thought exercise I've been having with myself. Plus none of these people might have had that decision if they even were a sin. I just think it's a helpful way to read peoples intentions in posts.

Looking at who is left, given a choice to join a side as was part of Dennis role, there are a few people I would clearly think would choose one rather than the other.

Town: Wilgy and Michelle; I think given a choice, these two are town centric. Doesn't mean they would be given a choice if they were sins. If these two changed thought processes or worldviews suddenly I would expect them, in this set up, to have gone dark. I haven't seen that.

OMG gonna be late for work bbl.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Post 60+ times today and I'll flip my read lol

Do i look like I care about your read on me?

Give me your reads nook

@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME

You >rand mafia

Thunal town

Rondo town

Explain how you have just 3 reads at this time of the game.

Also just explain the reads. Don't come at me with post count reads, I want your thoughts

Sometimes my thoughts are post counts lol

In order

Post count
I used to be good at reading her
He gives me townRondo vibes, it's not super confident cause it's rondo, but I think he's somewhat >rand town

In order
Fabricated
Not enough for this game, explain
General sentence you can say about almost anyone in any game

Like come on, nook, do you really think you can mischop me with post count alarm bells?





Unrelated and condensing posts because I have a post limit

i suppose my poe sans kate and dennis is

wilgy
rondo
nook
thunal
falcon

Tutuu's Poe

i suppose my poe sans kate and dennis is

wilgy
rondo
nook
thunal
falcon

Kate's reaction

What do you think about this reaction @ everyone?

You asked for my thoughts, that's what they are. Do what you will with them

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

After Mac and Sean revealed their results is interesting to read the day
Making wall posts to not reach post cap

Spoiler: show

btw I just won a game as 3rd party offsite and i posted a lot. Also I am sure I posted enough in the League game at MU when nook was host and I rand mafia with Pyxxy.
Post count read is so unnecessary, game 6 this year had an f3 of 2 low posters town and one high poster wolf.
SBPC and dry meta reads like pyxxy posted for nook don't imply deeper meta analysis and show lack of care for the game.
Nook did it as town a couple of times but also did it as wolf every single time when he rand wolf.
He knows is throwing me off because it's a way to look down on me and I can't stand to have anyone implying I can't post regardless alignaments.
He said he lifts the sus if i post 60 times, that's so lame because it's again desconsidering any game input I could have and relies only on number of posts. Like.. how come is this AI???
Rant over

Wow why didn't I ever thibk of just reading the thread. Silly me!

Sean outed her with an assist from Mac. Quickest way to find it is to ISO Sean, that's what i did when I walked into this last night.

Ill take your word for it, that sounds like too much reading for me today

*Nook's entire solve breaks the game wide open*

*Nook acts non-chalant*

I think this is scum-indicative for Nook. I could be wrong, but this feels more like Nook feigning indifference, rather than actual town!Nook indifference.

Sean and Jake both suspected nook

Why are there 9 on Kate?

Asking in a non-partnered way.

lmao nook posted exactly like this when we were wolfing together and lily got mech outed

putting nook in the sin bin

Pixxy was already mafia or anyway a sin and couldn’t predict he would die, would he have pushed Nook here if Nook is bad?

Answer is probably yes. Pyxxy could do a reverse psychology play here anyway. Or a bus/distancing play because nook wasn't a beacon of towniness and received many SRs

Why are there 9 on Kate?

Asking in a non-partnered way.

Back to this. Why would nook say that if not for wifom?

Spoiler: show

like obviously it's preferable to killing town but

what if killing sins is like entirely not beneficial, or worse yet helps John Doe?

any chance you've got a theme/setup/movie-plot-related reason to think this

I watched the first episode of Twin Peaks instead of Se7en without knowing that ep 1 was basically as long as a movie

back on the topic at hand

from what Seanzie said it didn't seem like Kate had a way to win with town

Things I learned from Kate that could be useful (take everything with a grain of salt since Kate was suspicious of my motives, but I do think there were times where she was trusting me enough that most of this is likely true).

1.) She can win as sole survivor or with mafia.
2.) SVS is 90% town (I think Kate said this in earnest)
3.) She said her and Greed exchanged roles. idk what to make of this.
4.) She has an ability but I think it is perhaps best for me not to share the details on it.

hmmmmmm okay so grain of salt like Seanzie said, but iirc Seanzie said he was posing as a sin? so (heavy fan theories here -->) maybe Seanzie did something like say that he could win alone or with scum, and then Kate went "oh yeah samesies Seanzies"

this might be worth asking Seanzie to speak further on, I don't think it would reveal much and it might help confirm how much to trust point #1

re: #2, after being in a game with Kate and SVS, can confirm they can accurate snipe each other, so if I believe #1 then I'm inclined to believe #2

idk about #3/dont wanna hear about #4 atm

I asked Kate how she won and she answered before I told her my fake wincon. I think sins can turn into mafia somehow and likely more than one sin can win with mafia.

It's obviously by now that all sins can win with or turn mafia after a while, and the choice is theirs or they become mafia if some conditions are met without them doing anything or them doing the required actions..

I believe that if JD could recruit, Epi would have flipped red, so the conversion is not in his powers


Took me a while to do this because busy day and all, I will be back later in the day, maybe I can have someone to change ideas with, but now thread is too silent.
Laters!

Ill give you credit tbf, you did get to 67 posts on d3 in the mafia league game. The other days you posted 23, 19, 11, and 27 times. So. Break the meta and I'll stop using it, im not trying to look down on you, you're a very capable scum player with a lot of success. It's just...what your meta has been, historically, and I've tried to bring jt up as little as possible because I know you're sensitive about it, but like...youre not reciprocating at all and just deciding to be nasty now. It's part of the game and a valid read until you convincingly break the meta, when you do that I'll tip my cap and ditch the read, until then I'm gonna keep using it

[falcon45ca]

[VOTE: wilgy] aubergine

[Thunal33]

Mata has had some points where they have said things and I just nod and say "yep that follows and it feels like they have thought that through and believe it"

Honestly I had thought similar about Mata at different points, especially when she talked about Mac being JD. If she knows or thinks Mac is town, that's a fight that's incredibly stacked in Mac's favor and imo not something evil Mata would try to instigate. It's quite possible Mata is evil that genuinely thought Mac was bad but I think it lowers the odds somewhat.

Mata is goodBut what if bad?

If you're trying to say vocalizing different scenarios is wolfy, it's a game with so many different possibilities that of course I can and should think through them as town.

Its more who are you posting that for? I have already said I think Mata is good. Are you trying to make me doubt my read or are you trying to get it into thread for others to read that Mata could be a bad person and oh no lets not trust her this lylo? We are supposed to be narrowing the pool not extending it arent we?

No, I was saying my own read was that I tentatively townlean Mata and gave why.

[Thunal33]

Seanzie had a chat with Kate, Kate was sold that Seanzie was sin, kate said SVS is likely not sin, Kate is inscentivised to tell other sins who other sins are and are not. Seanzie flipped green. why would he lie? Kate is the best SVS reader that I know

Kate was a sin, would she tell the truth about SVS?

You're asking the wrong question.

Why would she lie to another Sin? She throught Seanzie was a sin.

I also believe Kate's SVS read was real. Seanzie thought it was and Kate's other info about her and Dennis was real so I don't see her lying about specifically SVS.

[Thunal33]

Seanzie had a chat with Kate, Kate was sold that Seanzie was sin, kate said SVS is likely not sin, Kate is inscentivised to tell other sins who other sins are and are not. Seanzie flipped green. why would he lie? Kate is the best SVS reader that I know

Kate was a sin, would she tell the truth about SVS?

You're asking the wrong question.

Why would she lie to another Sin? She throught Seanzie was a sin.

Conclusion is, sins don't know each other.
I can accept that Kate gave a honest read for SVS. But it's just a read. I don't remember if Svs suspected Kate, because I presume also Svs can read Kate well

SVS townread Kate and said she was impressed that Kate totally fooled her. Kate just didn't talk about her read on SVS at all itt and I think she was hiding her SVS townread similarly to how she was hiding her Dennis baddie read.

[Thunal33]

So in the Nook vs Michelle fight I am likely picking Michelle

Do you actually think Michelle is bad or is it mostly avoiding voting Nanook? If it's the latter, I'd rather kill someone that has a higher chance to be bad over someone who has a lower chance of being bad but a higher chance of JD. I don't want to lose by voting a town. I also don't know if the JD switching thing is even true.

[Thunal33]

Also if JD can switch between sins, and the former shell dies, doesn't this mean it was Epi JD yday?
I don't know if Epi was in such dangee to make the jump.

Also he is one of the top tier players, he could endgame as JD, I think this theory doesn't hold water.

And it doesn't add up if you put together all the roles. JD is a distinctive player

That's a pretty good point. Epi JD wouldn't be in immediate danger and if he didn't die, there would be 5 baddies still alive. I don't think switching JD would be worth Epi dying.

[DrWilgy]

Someone talk to me about Matahari

[DrWilgy]

DaughterOfOmega 1
Voters: Epignosis
falcon45ca 1
Voters: Seanzie
Jackofhearts2005 1
Voters: Pyxxy
Porscha 10
Voters: Tutuu, Macdougall, RondoDimBuckle, Roxy, Zenon, Jackofhearts2005, Thunal33, Dennis, Kate, falcon45ca
Seanzie 1
Voters: NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Tutuu 7
Voters: Matahari, Porscha, DrWilgy, DaughterOfOmega, Dubz, S~V~S, Michelle

Dennis 2
Voters: Zenon, RondoDimBuckle
Kate 9
Voters: Macdougall, Pyxxy, Jackofhearts2005, Michelle, Thunal33, Seanzie, S~V~S, Tutuu, DrWilgy
Macdougall 1
Voters: NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Matahari 1
Voters: falcon45ca
Seanzie 1
Voters: Dennis
S~V~S 1
Voters: Epignosis
Tutuu 1
Voters: Kate
Zenon 1
Voters: Matahari
Unvote 1
Voters: Roxy

Dennis 9
Voters: DrWilgy, S~V~S, Jackofhearts2005, NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, Thunal33, Epignosis, Matahari, Roxy, RondoDimBuckle
Macdougall 1
Voters: Seanzie
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME 2
Voters: Dubz, Michelle
RondoDimBuckle 1
Voters: falcon45ca
S~V~S 1
Voters: Macdougall

[DrWilgy]

With how many lost wolves are in this game, are vote weight mechanics even calculable?

[DrWilgy]

Falcon skim done. Don't think Falcon has a team, but I don't know if this is snormal stownrange Sfalcon.

[Thunal33]

You are ready to lose the game for a vanity read.

You think you played a solid town game? You have infos and shared them but your play was weak all game
Why Jack died and you are alive?
Jack said he can prove himself, but if you are town you live because you have a wrong perception and you push in the wrong direction, like when you voted Mac after Sean died

Oh, Role targets,

how do you know they were boring and NAI? Do you know my role? This seems like a perspective slip to me

Assuming things before knowing what I meant and I talked yday about it as well
Do you even care?

I think this is towny for Michelle. I looked at the f3 of her mafia league game and there was none of this awareness about not wanting to lose the game.

[Thunal33]

Post 60+ times today and I'll flip my read lol

This seems like a really narrow focus and an easy thing for Michelle to fake since you outed it. Do you think scum!Michelle is incapable of posting over a certain amount?

[Thunal33]

Post 60+ times today and I'll flip my read lol

Do i look like I care about your read on me?

Give me your reads nook

@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME

You >rand mafia

Thunal town

Rondo town

Explain how you have just 3 reads at this time of the game.

Also just explain the reads. Don't come at me with post count reads, I want your thoughts

Sometimes my thoughts are post counts lol

In order

Post count
I used to be good at reading her
He gives me townRondo vibes, it's not super confident cause it's rondo, but I think he's somewhat >rand town

In order
Fabricated
Not enough for this game, explain
General sentence you can say about almost anyone in any game

Like come on, nook, do you really think you can mischop me with post count alarm bells?





Unrelated and condensing posts because I have a post limit

i suppose my poe sans kate and dennis is

wilgy
rondo
nook
thunal
falcon

Tutuu's Poe

i suppose my poe sans kate and dennis is

wilgy
rondo
nook
thunal
falcon

Kate's reaction

What do you think about this reaction @ everyone?

It was after Kate was outed so I feel like it's WIFOM to read into it.

I think Wilgy is town independently of this because of the Sean BTSC stuff, so Kate may have wanted to draw attention to Wilgy and make people tinfoil him.

[S~V~S]

Post 60+ times today and I'll flip my read lol

Do i look like I care about your read on me?

Give me your reads nook

@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME

You >rand mafia

Thunal town

Rondo town

Explain how you have just 3 reads at this time of the game.

Also just explain the reads. Don't come at me with post count reads, I want your thoughts

Sometimes my thoughts are post counts lol

In order

Post count
I used to be good at reading her
He gives me townRondo vibes, it's not super confident cause it's rondo, but I think he's somewhat >rand town

In order
Fabricated
Not enough for this game, explain
General sentence you can say about almost anyone in any game

Like come on, nook, do you really think you can mischop me with post count alarm bells?





Unrelated and condensing posts because I have a post limit

i suppose my poe sans kate and dennis is

wilgy
rondo
nook
thunal
falcon

Tutuu's Poe

i suppose my poe sans kate and dennis is

wilgy
rondo
nook
thunal
falcon

Kate's reaction

What do you think about this reaction @ everyone?

It was after Kate was outed so I feel like it's WIFOM to read into it.

I think Wilgy is town independently of this because of the Sean BTSC stuff, so Kate may have wanted to draw attention to Wilgy and make people tinfoil him.

Kate tends to wolfread Wilgy. Last game they were t/t she went for him pretty aggressively. I didn’t see his as bad there, and *here* I tried to get her to see that what I saw in HDF I was seeing here. But she kept coming back to Wilgy. She backed off and as soon as someone else mentioned him, she went right back to him.

At the time I thought it was SOP for her, but in retrospect, this makes sense.

*post#3*

[Thunal33]

Ill give you credit tbf, you did get to 67 posts on d3 in the mafia league game. The other days you posted 23, 19, 11, and 27 times. So. Break the meta and I'll stop using it, im not trying to look down on you, you're a very capable scum player with a lot of success. It's just...what your meta has been, historically, and I've tried to bring jt up as little as possible because I know you're sensitive about it, but like...youre not reciprocating at all and just deciding to be nasty now. It's part of the game and a valid read until you convincingly break the meta, when you do that I'll tip my cap and ditch the read, until then I'm gonna keep using it

What about Michelle's content? That should be a lot more AI than her post count imo. And these post count reads when they do work are a lot better at clearing a high-posting town than they are at catching a low-posting scum.

[RondoDimBuckle]

Ok so @DrWilgy @S~V~S do you agree with @Thunal33 s take on @Michelles reaction to my nonsense today?

If so then I am happy with my town core and kill the rest

[Thunal33]

[VOTE: wilgy] aubergine

@falcon45ca come back and explain this vote. Are you aware Wilgy claimed to have BTSC with Sean?

[RondoDimBuckle]

You are ready to lose the game for a vanity read.

You think you played a solid town game? You have infos and shared them but your play was weak all game
Why Jack died and you are alive?
Jack said he can prove himself, but if you are town you live because you have a wrong perception and you push in the wrong direction, like when you voted Mac after Sean died

Oh, Role targets,

how do you know they were boring and NAI? Do you know my role? This seems like a perspective slip to me

Assuming things before knowing what I meant and I talked yday about it as well
Do you even care?

I think this is towny for Michelle. I looked at the f3 of her mafia league game and there was none of this awareness about not wanting to lose the game.

This is the same thought I had at the time

[RondoDimBuckle]

Well not the other game stuff but that her response to me felt genuine

[RondoDimBuckle]

[VOTE: wilgy] aubergine

@falcon45ca come back and explain this vote. Are you aware Wilgy claimed to have BTSC with Sean?

Don't bother he is outed baddy at this point

[falcon45ca]

[VOTE: wilgy] aubergine

@falcon45ca come back and explain this vote. Are you aware Wilgy claimed to have BTSC with Sean?

No.




Do you believe him?

[falcon45ca]

[VOTE: wilgy] aubergine

@falcon45ca come back and explain this vote. Are you aware Wilgy claimed to have BTSC with Sean?

Don't bother he is outed baddy at this point

Not even close

[DrWilgy]

Falcon skim done. Don't think Falcon has a team, but I don't know if this is snormal stownrange Sfalcon.

Actually thought about this more. Falcon didn't seemed teamed D1 and then dropped off the face of the planet day 2 and beyond. Was Falcon recruited during this time?

[RondoDimBuckle]

Town Falcon would have come down on me like a ton of bricks for how I have been playing this game. I have felt nothing. He is bad.

[falcon45ca]

Falcon skim done. Don't think Falcon has a team, but I don't know if this is snormal stownrange Sfalcon.

Actually thought about this more. Falcon didn't seemed teamed D1 and then dropped off the face of the planet day 2 and beyond. Was Falcon recruited during this time?

Not that I've been told

[falcon45ca]

Town Falcon would have come down on me like a ton of bricks for how I have been playing this game. I have felt nothing. He is bad.

Town falcon think you're scum, and leading town off a cliff ATM.

[falcon45ca]

In this game state, I find it hard to believe that we don't have wolves leading the "towncore"

[RondoDimBuckle]

Ah yes but where was this witty repartee d1 and 2 when I was doing the same thing?

[DrWilgy]

Skimmed Nook's ISO.

Not sure on this one either. Feel that Nook is not really concerned with the game, BUT isn't adding anything to it. T Nook even if being slanky often contributes in a way that at least adds data. I'm not seeing it this time.

This whole setup makes it hard to do reads methinks.

[falcon45ca]

I'm an outted baddie, but Rondo is ignoring me til I get ITT.





Riiiiiight

[falcon45ca]

Ah yes but where was this witty repartee d1 and 2 when I was doing the same thing?

I'm not being witty, I'm being sullen

[RondoDimBuckle]

Falcon trying to jump into the conversation now that all the goodies that can read him are dead?

[Thunal33]

[VOTE: wilgy] aubergine

@falcon45ca come back and explain this vote. Are you aware Wilgy claimed to have BTSC with Sean?

No.




Do you believe him?

I do since nobody seriously CCed him and I think he's the most likely Sean clear rn.

[falcon45ca]

Falcon trying to jump into the conversation now that all the goodies that can read him are dead?

Riiiiiight

[RondoDimBuckle]

I'm an outted baddie, but Rondo is ignoring me til I get ITT.





Riiiiiight

Nope d1 and 2 I was pointing out your lack of towniness

[DrWilgy]

I just realized, we've effectively had just 1 misyeet.

If this is a 2 misyeet game that'd be fuggin brutal lmao, but who knows. People are dropping left and right.

[VOTE: Falcon] aubergine

[falcon45ca]

[VOTE: rondo] aubergine

[Thunal33]

[VOTE: wilgy] aubergine

@falcon45ca come back and explain this vote. Are you aware Wilgy claimed to have BTSC with Sean?

Don't bother he is outed baddy at this point

Nah, I'm not treating anyone as outed.

[RondoDimBuckle]

[VOTE: wilgy] aubergine

@falcon45ca come back and explain this vote. Are you aware Wilgy claimed to have BTSC with Sean?

No.




Do you believe him?

I do since nobody seriously CCed him and I think he's the most likely Sean clear rn.

I mean I did but no one wanted to play my game