Turtles again

[Delta]

I'm stood in KFC, you want anything?

Zinger meal with an extra side of common sense?

Bucket of WIM all around maybe?

And anyone that knows me knows I'm not polarised. You think delta wouldn't 100% have voted me by now if it really was this night and day between my town and wolf games? That's why he was so confused by my aggression last game, he's never seen me town like that before

would love some kfc rn actually cheers, mail it over to me

im kinda just lost by what youre doing because your game last game threw me off. im trying to get a better understanding of your reads but you give me so little to work with.
dont just use me as a meatshield though xan. smh

[Xanjori]

Why not? You're so squishy you just absorb the impacts. And I'll reread and post reads when I'm at home but off the top of my head there's so much slanking going on it makes it difficult. You could easily make a case for Belzy +1, especially if there's a wolf on my wagon

[Delta]

Why not? You're so squishy you just absorb the impacts. And I'll reread and post reads when I'm at home but off the top of my head there's so much slanking going on it makes it difficult. You could easily make a case for Belzy +1, especially if there's a wolf on my wagon

youre so mean to me

[Delta]

alrighty
things are quiet so while i wait around
fun little exercise for whoever checks in
give me your top townread and wolfread
not necessarily after explanations right away
\o/

[Xanjori]

Better question, fuck delta's exercise.

People tell me why you're low posting. What has changed between the first rand and this.

[Delta]

Better question, fuck delta's exercise.

People tell me why you're low posting. What has changed between the first rand and this.

why are you dodging my question ):

im not low posting
why are YOU low posting

[Delta]

fuck YOUR exercise go back to my question >:(

[Delta]

how is this page just us two
how many wolves are here jesus

[Xanjori]

Better question, fuck delta's exercise.

People tell me why you're low posting. What has changed between the first rand and this.

why are you dodging my question ):

im not low posting
why are YOU low posting

Im within 10 posts of you almost and Ive literally just got my first free time at my PC in the past 20 hours. So who is really low posting here huh?

[Delta]

Better question, fuck delta's exercise.

People tell me why you're low posting. What has changed between the first rand and this.

why are you dodging my question ):

im not low posting
why are YOU low posting

Im within 10 posts of you almost and Ive literally just got my first free time at my PC in the past 20 hours. So who is really low posting here huh?

not me because im still ahead of you

[Seanzie]

alrighty
things are quiet so while i wait around
fun little exercise for whoever checks in
give me your top townread and wolfread
not necessarily after explanations right away
\o/

I'mma say Falcon looks fine, but this is not a strong read.

Xan seems like an okay chop. This is also not a strong read.

[Seanzie]

Better question, fuck delta's exercise.

People tell me why you're low posting. What has changed between the first rand and this.

Who do you believe is low-posting now compared to before?

[Delta]

alrighty
things are quiet so while i wait around
fun little exercise for whoever checks in
give me your top townread and wolfread
not necessarily after explanations right away
\o/

I'mma say Falcon looks fine, but this is not a strong read.

Xan seems like an okay chop. This is also not a strong read.

makes sense
can you explain a little more about falcon though?

[Seanzie]

alrighty
things are quiet so while i wait around
fun little exercise for whoever checks in
give me your top townread and wolfread
not necessarily after explanations right away
\o/

I'mma say Falcon looks fine, but this is not a strong read.

Xan seems like an okay chop. This is also not a strong read.

makes sense
can you explain a little more about falcon though?

When Falcon is scum, he often doesn't do many pushes, and when he does push, it often lacks conviction and depth. His early aggression against Xan, and the point about Xan's contrasting feeling this game vs last I think is more indicative of town!Falcon than scum!Falcon. This is not a huge body of evidence though, which is why I don't want to strongly state this.

[Delta]

alrighty
things are quiet so while i wait around
fun little exercise for whoever checks in
give me your top townread and wolfread
not necessarily after explanations right away
\o/

I'mma say Falcon looks fine, but this is not a strong read.

Xan seems like an okay chop. This is also not a strong read.

makes sense
can you explain a little more about falcon though?

When Falcon is scum, he often doesn't do many pushes, and when he does push, it often lacks conviction and depth. His early aggression against Xan, and the point about Xan's contrasting feeling this game vs last I think is more indicative of town!Falcon than scum!Falcon. This is not a huge body of evidence though, which is why I don't want to strongly state this.

\o/ thank you!

[Seanzie]

alrighty
things are quiet so while i wait around
fun little exercise for whoever checks in
give me your top townread and wolfread
not necessarily after explanations right away
\o/

I'mma say Falcon looks fine, but this is not a strong read.

Xan seems like an okay chop. This is also not a strong read.

makes sense
can you explain a little more about falcon though?

When Falcon is scum, he often doesn't do many pushes, and when he does push, it often lacks conviction and depth. His early aggression against Xan, and the point about Xan's contrasting feeling this game vs last I think is more indicative of town!Falcon than scum!Falcon. This is not a huge body of evidence though, which is why I don't want to strongly state this.

\o/ thank you!

Do you have any thoughts?

[Delta]

alrighty
things are quiet so while i wait around
fun little exercise for whoever checks in
give me your top townread and wolfread
not necessarily after explanations right away
\o/

I'mma say Falcon looks fine, but this is not a strong read.

Xan seems like an okay chop. This is also not a strong read.

makes sense
can you explain a little more about falcon though?

When Falcon is scum, he often doesn't do many pushes, and when he does push, it often lacks conviction and depth. His early aggression against Xan, and the point about Xan's contrasting feeling this game vs last I think is more indicative of town!Falcon than scum!Falcon. This is not a huge body of evidence though, which is why I don't want to strongly state this.

\o/ thank you!

Do you have any thoughts?

i gave my own worldview a few posts back, i can quote it if you like?
particularly after your thoughts & xans rn since both of you are like. my top scumreads lmfao
the issue is i misread both you last game so im kinda wary that im in the same position again

[Delta]

self indulgent sorting post woooo

► Show Spoiler

townies?:
tutuu - early mindmeld which i like & posting feels kinda genuine now i have some idea of how they play based off of last game. no clue about their range but im fine calling them v until theres anything that indicates otherwise
drwilgy - posting more is probably a good thing since it means that theres more he could be read for & i feel like if he was a wolf he mightve played this game identical to last one to try push that 'oh well i was town while posting like this so im town this time too' but kinda similar to last game thats making a lot of assumptions about how he plays wolf. youre not taking my buddy from me this time though >:c
esooa - weak townlean but intro was kinda. too odd to come from mafia. very much skimming null but weh, would move based on how esooa posts going forward but gut instinct says v
zenon - ngl half of it is zenon reading me as mafia because i've never seen her correctly townread me while also town :wowee: she was right on me last game and that was due to tmi. also because she feels diff to last game in terms of how she's posting & i want to buy into the fact that insom/zenon havent both randed wolf again so weh

null:
falcon - weh. intro identical to last game so probably NAI for them? & had some weird theater-y moments. cant get a semblance of their thoughts rn so holding off leaning either way
ted - feels near identical to last game, especially how they interact w/ tutuu but part of me is like 'lol they just know each other dont be silly' so its kinda - would need to see something else from them to push them either way. vote on me kinda odd though. kinda more scumlean but not enough has happened to fully bump them that way

wolves?:
xan - dont get why he's being townread. really dont get it. intro weird as shit & his further posts kinda indicate his plan is to just latch onto me & avoid talking about others unless necessary. which he does as a wolf. microtells innit :^). weh. wanna hear more from him but shrug. i also just dont want a repeat of last games d1 where he proclaimed this godread on me then spent the day flipflopping on my alignment & id like to think he'd probably learn from it if town so. this might just be a hopeful read lmfao
seanzie/belzy - shared thing because i think both of them have had rough starts to the game for different reasons but cant be w/w with one another. have explained this in a diff post & even since then both of their posting has been kinda weird. lean seanzie over belzy though

ordered properly, looks smthn like:

tutuu
drwilgy
zenon

esooa

falcon
ted

xan

belzy
seanzie

bam
could probably bump falcon a little higher for the push on xan since i get the angle hes taking
prob bump xan lower for being so fluffy & dodging my question
uhh
aside from that im fine with my placements still

[Xanjori]

Better question, fuck delta's exercise.

People tell me why you're low posting. What has changed between the first rand and this.

Who do you believe is low-posting now compared to before?

Most players tbh

[Xanjori]

Except Belzy, who was already low posting

[Delta]

Better question, fuck delta's exercise.

People tell me why you're low posting. What has changed between the first rand and this.

Who do you believe is low-posting now compared to before?

Most players tbh

why are you being so vague
like every response you give
come on
smh

[Xanjori]

Better question, fuck delta's exercise.

People tell me why you're low posting. What has changed between the first rand and this.

Who do you believe is low-posting now compared to before?

Most players tbh

why are you being so vague
like every response you give
come on
smh

What is vague about it? Do you or do you not agree that nearly every single player is low posting right now?

[Seanzie]

alrighty
things are quiet so while i wait around
fun little exercise for whoever checks in
give me your top townread and wolfread
not necessarily after explanations right away
\o/

I'mma say Falcon looks fine, but this is not a strong read.

Xan seems like an okay chop. This is also not a strong read.

makes sense
can you explain a little more about falcon though?

When Falcon is scum, he often doesn't do many pushes, and when he does push, it often lacks conviction and depth. His early aggression against Xan, and the point about Xan's contrasting feeling this game vs last I think is more indicative of town!Falcon than scum!Falcon. This is not a huge body of evidence though, which is why I don't want to strongly state this.

\o/ thank you!

Do you have any thoughts?

i gave my own worldview a few posts back, i can quote it if you like?
particularly after your thoughts & xans rn since both of you are like. my top scumreads lmfao
the issue is i misread both you last game so im kinda wary that im in the same position again

Tell me about me.

[Delta]

Better question, fuck delta's exercise.

People tell me why you're low posting. What has changed between the first rand and this.

Who do you believe is low-posting now compared to before?

Most players tbh

why are you being so vague
like every response you give
come on
smh

What is vague about it? Do you or do you not agree that nearly every single player is low posting right now?

i mean its more than just this but yeah kinda
its been low energy n wtv but theres still a few people posting a normal amount imo
my main issue is you dodging my question about your reads
and you know i have an issue with that

[Delta]

I'mma say Falcon looks fine, but this is not a strong read.

Xan seems like an okay chop. This is also not a strong read.

makes sense
can you explain a little more about falcon though?

When Falcon is scum, he often doesn't do many pushes, and when he does push, it often lacks conviction and depth. His early aggression against Xan, and the point about Xan's contrasting feeling this game vs last I think is more indicative of town!Falcon than scum!Falcon. This is not a huge body of evidence though, which is why I don't want to strongly state this.

\o/ thank you!

Do you have any thoughts?

i gave my own worldview a few posts back, i can quote it if you like?
particularly after your thoughts & xans rn since both of you are like. my top scumreads lmfao
the issue is i misread both you last game so im kinda wary that im in the same position again

Tell me about me.

I think your intro to the game was weird & overly defensive - hence why i have you/belzy having one mafia. particularly struck me as weird that you then went to paint being overly defensive as towny because it really didnt come across like that. your more recent posting is a little better, hence why id bump you higher than i have xan right now. im just slightly worried that im falling into the same trap i did last game where i have the same few people in poe that i did last game where they were town, which is kinda why i wanna hear more of your thought process. im leaning towards you being mafia but i dont know how much weight my read holds when my instinct towards your town play is to think its wolfy.

[tedxtr]

guess it's time to type some things out as we are sitting ducks

oh my fucking god i just deleted my thoughts on belzy/seanzie
fuck my life

belzy's intro was weird & i put a lot of stock into how people enter the game. something something chat player stuff. the following posts they had responding to me were also overly defensive of this idea that someone's intro doesnt matter & doesnt have to be good like yeh... it kinda does lol?

but then seanzie's wall to them later on when belzy had just gone 'teehee lets kill seanzie he survives d1 too much' was way over the top for a joke ab last game. and i heavily doubt they can be w/w off of it because who sees their partner say that and pulls up a fuckin list of games they were in together.

i should probably learn from xan/sam being v/v last game but think theres a wolf in belzy/seanzie wheee

i thought this line was very strange, because i don't see how that correlates to the example in this game. it almost feels credit reaching like he's making us think "hey look, im assessing things and thinking beyond surface level". if you read it, he has 2 independent wolf reads of belzy / sean, which is fine.

he thinks belzy / sean aren't w/w because of the quoting games thing, which is fine.

but then laying out the possibility of them being v/v because xan / sam happened to be in the last game (when the circumstances are completely different?) is a step that i don't think villas would reach

kinda dont really see the point in doing any of that?

what do you gain from it

xan & belzy both came into this game in a way that makes me feel kinda bleh

xan because he feels more fluffy than last game which is a wolftell for him & he seems kinda hesitant about his approach to me this time around
belzy because they go to call zenon town despite literally just admitting they wouldve struggled to find w!zenon & her intro isnt any diff. kinda feels like tmiing zenon town since tmi perspective or wtv.

can you tell im pulling shit out of my ass someone do something please

I am always bleh early game. You don't know what I am doing.

yes I dont know what you're doing thats why I dont like your intro.

these quotes show a pattern of him pushing people based on "not knowing what they are doing", which shows a lack of curiosity and surface level pushes. he's not really assessing "he did this, it's weird, what could be the wolf motivation?", he's rather pushing on things that seem wolfy than actually being wolf motivated.

[Delta]

guess it's time to type some things out as we are sitting ducks

oh my fucking god i just deleted my thoughts on belzy/seanzie
fuck my life

belzy's intro was weird & i put a lot of stock into how people enter the game. something something chat player stuff. the following posts they had responding to me were also overly defensive of this idea that someone's intro doesnt matter & doesnt have to be good like yeh... it kinda does lol?

but then seanzie's wall to them later on when belzy had just gone 'teehee lets kill seanzie he survives d1 too much' was way over the top for a joke ab last game. and i heavily doubt they can be w/w off of it because who sees their partner say that and pulls up a fuckin list of games they were in together.

i should probably learn from xan/sam being v/v last game but think theres a wolf in belzy/seanzie wheee

i thought this line was very strange, because i don't see how that correlates to the example in this game. it almost feels credit reaching like he's making us think "hey look, im assessing things and thinking beyond surface level". if you read it, he has 2 independent wolf reads of belzy / sean, which is fine.

the last line stems from me being paranoid about last game where i had xan/sam as opposites due to sam's interactions with xan - similar to how i have belzy/seanzie as opposites due to seanzie's interactions with belzy. thats why im like 'ehh' because the last game i had that kind of read and they were both town

he thinks belzy / sean aren't w/w because of the quoting games thing, which is fine.

but then laying out the possibility of them being v/v because xan / sam happened to be in the last game (when the circumstances are completely different?) is a step that i don't think villas would reach

kinda dont really see the point in doing any of that?

what do you gain from it

xan & belzy both came into this game in a way that makes me feel kinda bleh

xan because he feels more fluffy than last game which is a wolftell for him & he seems kinda hesitant about his approach to me this time around
belzy because they go to call zenon town despite literally just admitting they wouldve struggled to find w!zenon & her intro isnt any diff. kinda feels like tmiing zenon town since tmi perspective or wtv.

can you tell im pulling shit out of my ass someone do something please

I am always bleh early game. You don't know what I am doing.

yes I dont know what you're doing thats why I dont like your intro.

these quotes show a pattern of him pushing people based on "not knowing what they are doing", which shows a lack of curiosity and surface level pushes. he's not really assessing "he did this, it's weird, what could be the wolf motivation?", he's rather pushing on things that seem wolfy than actually being wolf motivated.

because yeah i kinda dont know what people are doing. the low energy in this game means im working with absolutely nothing, similar to last game where a lot of my early game was pleading with people to get involved so i could try solve alignments. once again, i do want people to engage with me here because its been so quiet and it doesnt give much to solve off of except 'x y z arent posting as much as last game' which is kinda. not great to solve off of when every low poster last game was town

[tedxtr]

i thought belzy's explanation was fine, being here at opening is different than coming back and having a lot of info to build on.

idrk if i have any village leans, gonna have to re-read

[tedxtr]

i thought this line was very strange, because i don't see how that correlates to the example in this game. it almost feels credit reaching like he's making us think "hey look, im assessing things and thinking beyond surface level". if you read it, he has 2 independent wolf reads of belzy / sean, which is fine.

the last line stems from me being paranoid about last game where i had xan/sam as opposites due to sam's interactions with xan - similar to how i have belzy/seanzie as opposites due to seanzie's interactions with belzy. thats why im like 'ehh' because the last game i had that kind of read and they were both town

i get that, but it feels like fake paranoia. either that or you're very unsure of yourself at every step, which isn't great for a multitude of reasons.

[Delta]

i thought this line was very strange, because i don't see how that correlates to the example in this game. it almost feels credit reaching like he's making us think "hey look, im assessing things and thinking beyond surface level". if you read it, he has 2 independent wolf reads of belzy / sean, which is fine.

the last line stems from me being paranoid about last game where i had xan/sam as opposites due to sam's interactions with xan - similar to how i have belzy/seanzie as opposites due to seanzie's interactions with belzy. thats why im like 'ehh' because the last game i had that kind of read and they were both town

i get that, but it feels like fake paranoia. either that or you're very unsure of yourself at every step, which isn't great for a multitude of reasons.

bolded makes me laugh um
yeah i am insanely unsure of myself i dont
like being wrong about my pushes x_x
spare me the anxiety talk please

[Delta]

i hinged a lot of my worldview last game around sam/xan having mafia
built worlds off of it & pushed that they were the optimal vote
and that was dead wrong
i really dont want to fall into the same trap this game, especially when people feel less engaged than the last so im kinda working with whatevers in front of me

[tedxtr]

@Esooa

last game it was going rough for villas, you get a second chance here. why are you demotivated?

[Xanjori]

xan & belzy both came into this game in a way that makes me feel kinda bleh

xan because he feels more fluffy than last game which is a wolftell for him & he seems kinda hesitant about his approach to me this time around
belzy because they go to call zenon town despite literally just admitting they wouldve struggled to find w!zenon & her intro isnt any diff. kinda feels like tmiing zenon town since tmi perspective or wtv.

can you tell im pulling shit out of my ass someone do something please

Screw it. You're just a wolf for this read. Its so bad I dont know how to look at it and find v!delta in there at all.

Gimme 5 minutes to find your partner.

[Xanjori]

esooas intro is weird but its probtown because idk if a wolf would just openly announce 'yes im going to be less confident this time around' because its such an odd look

and tutuu/zenon are just tutuu/zenon. perpetual rvs goes hard.

Like this is so forced too. Why are you forcing these reads out of people saying hello?

[Delta]

xan & belzy both came into this game in a way that makes me feel kinda bleh

xan because he feels more fluffy than last game which is a wolftell for him & he seems kinda hesitant about his approach to me this time around
belzy because they go to call zenon town despite literally just admitting they wouldve struggled to find w!zenon & her intro isnt any diff. kinda feels like tmiing zenon town since tmi perspective or wtv.

can you tell im pulling shit out of my ass someone do something please

Screw it. You're just a wolf for this read. Its so bad I dont know how to look at it and find v!delta in there at all.

Gimme 5 minutes to find your partner.

nice wolf claim xan

[Delta]

esooas intro is weird but its probtown because idk if a wolf would just openly announce 'yes im going to be less confident this time around' because its such an odd look

and tutuu/zenon are just tutuu/zenon. perpetual rvs goes hard.

Like this is so forced too. Why are you forcing these reads out of people saying hello?

because i value how people come into games?
and youve seen me put value into this before??

[Delta]

please try argue that you havent seen me put stock into peoples introductions

[tedxtr]

there is a very possible world where tutuu and belzy are wolves together

[Xanjori]

Belzy/delta seems a good POE

Seanzie entrance is fine and while he is being lazy with the vote on me thats just a skill issue.

Teds post on delta is pretty decent so he goes into TR's too.

Zenon is in null but trending downwards, time to sell sell sell!

[Xanjori]

[flash=][/flash]

there is a very possible world where tutuu and belzy are wolves together

I mean yes thats definitely a possibility, what makes you see it here?

[Xanjori]

belzy wrote like 5-6 posts faking confidence

drastically changing from last game

wolf

Not sure if w/w but I can easily see v/w. Either tutuu is right or tutuu is a dirty lying wolf!

[tedxtr]

[flash=][/flash]

there is a very possible world where tutuu and belzy are wolves together

I mean yes thats definitely a possibility, what makes you see it here?

i think her callout on belzy makes no sense and belzy is too focused on responding to her that it feels like trying to give her cred in the case they go over

plus wolves need lesser mislunches rite

belzy seemed to me to be awkward but with confidence last game, and they seemed confident this time too, yet she's saying they aren't. feels more like a shift that a wolf would notice about their partner after they were v/v.

[tedxtr]

[VOTE: belzy ] aubergine

test

[Delta]

xan's ISO so far is him being insanely fluffy about things, not wanting to commit to any reads despite being prompted to
he gets called out on it and his reaction is to call me outed
because he cant case anyone so he falls back on me as he has in the past

[VOTE: Xanjori] aubergine

EN GARDE, WOLF!

[Belzy]

My first impression based last game and Zenon's town games, I think she is town this time. Don't ask me why.

[VOTE: Belzy] aubergine

You already told us why.

Who the hell are you?

[Belzy]

I finally know whom I am. The fluff stage is over. If anyone thinks my reads on tutuu and Zenon were real, they don't get early stage posting.

[Belzy]

[VOTE: belzy ] aubergine

test

It's broken.

[Belzy]

This game meanz shit to me BTW. I am totally unsatisfied and I will just troll the heck out of it.

[tedxtr]

sounds like a solid plan

[Belzy]

sounds like a solid plan

Caused by stuff which aint my fault, I just choose how to deal with it.