Michelle wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 9:03 am
I was looking at early game posts. Kate defended flipped sins Epi and Dennis, and also Falcon, Matahari and pushed tutuu and Wilgy. I have on phone a wall with quotes from Kate but I doubt anyone will read it, so I put here only the conclusion.
I have mixed feelings about her treatment of Dubz. Kate defended Falcon who was suspected by tutuu after he voted Dubz. Very early game interactions, but still.
I am going to Iso Dubz, Falcon and Matahari
linki: SVS let's talk about how Kate would play as mafia, is she pocketing town, alongside her buddying her mates?
Also if Matahari is town we have to think at whom we clear in town reads and we shouldn't.
I don't know that I think Mata is town. But I don't know that I think she is Doe. Her low level of play has stayed consistent, so I don't know that I think she is a recruited sin. I thought her theory against the self appointed thread leader was very, very ballsy coming from someone with such a low activity level. I don't know that I see anyone whose win con is "survive to the end" making that play, lol.
So there is a lot more "I don't know" there than "I know" or even "I think". Mata can bring alot to the table and I would like her to bring it. I didn't agree with her theory, but I loved that she made it.
As for Kate, I have to reread her with this in mind. 99.9% of my read on Kate is tone. She feels more confident and less tentative when she is town. BTS has a weird effect on her; when mason or town BTS, it empowers her (as I'm sure you know, after Champs). She loves talking suspicions with like minded people who seek to SOLVE a mystery. When bad, having to hide that mystery makes her tense. She momma bears a bit and hides a lot. I also judge her based on her reactions with me, and your questions led me to look at her apart from that. She feels a bit jumpier to me, a bit more flirting with the thread for a longer time.
But her lone wolf game is a civ game.
She knows better than to pocket me. Probably the same for Dennis, and early on I recall her poking Dennis a bit about avoiding the thread. Matas only interaction with her was an off topic congrats about Dennis' brother graduating. Kate made a few vague town reads about Mata.
When I look back over her interactions with Roxy, most of it seems OT, bantering. Roxy kept trying to push her to make reads and answer questions, and got replies like this:
Kate wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 3:16 pm
Roxy wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 1:45 pm
how's that catch up coming Kate?
Well ots 315 and this is where I am. Unlike my spawn I do read the long posts.
I think if Kate hadn't been outed, Roxy would have tried to raise suspish on her. I also kinda know now how she fooled me, reading over her interactions with Roxy. But to be fair to Kate, she and i were kinda purposely avoiding each other a bit, since Hot Dog Fingers was stressy for us both with the cold reading thing. I was teeth clenched alot of the time waiting for someone to ask me why I (or she) hadn't put a read on each other yet.
Kate is also friends with Tutuu, and that was interesting and at the time was part of why I thought she was civ. After the push to save tutuu started, Kate moved her vote to Porscha.
The post she made explaining why felt like a 1,000,000% civ kate thing to do. More importantly, i think it prolly felt like that to Tutuu too, who had a lot of thread pull, and who also had influence on Mac, who also had a lot of thread pull.
This wound up not working, of course, when macs info was part of outing Kate. So that post there ^^ was probably very true, but probably could also be perceived as being very helpful to her.
When I went back and checked her interactions with Dubz, there were quite a few. I had forgotten about Dubz coming into the game and sheeping kate. They had a flurry or interactions, and the balance of mentions of Dubz in Kates iso were her quoting other peoples reads lists which contained Dubz.
I was especially watching this early on as Kate had called out Dubz whole bad team in the game before this, and their interaction felt t/t to me at the time.
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