Turtles again

[Seanzie]

Imma say it, if Esooa can see Im town (not being mean, but shes wolf read me in 4½ games we played (I was only wolf in 1)) then you are having a serious skill issue delta (or are wolfing)

Did you consider the possibility that could Esooa have TMI?

Yes. Which TMI's me town anyway

But your argument makes no sense in that case. Your argument is that Esooa can read you, therefore Delta should be able to. This makes no sense if Esooa is reading you with TMI. I don't believe you actually considered that Esooa could have TMI here.

[tutuu]

Ngl im struggling to find the mafia

[Delta]

Imma say it, if Esooa can see Im town (not being mean, but shes wolf read me in 4½ games we played (I was only wolf in 1)) then you are having a serious skill issue delta (or are wolfing)

Why is your first thought that I'm struggling town? Havent you said you think I'm mafia here??

[Delta]

also fuck you its not a skill issue
youre not town
if you are
you are the skill issue here

[Xanjori]

Imma say it, if Esooa can see Im town (not being mean, but shes wolf read me in 4½ games we played (I was only wolf in 1)) then you are having a serious skill issue delta (or are wolfing)

Did you consider the possibility that could Esooa have TMI?

Yes. Which TMI's me town anyway

But your argument makes no sense in that case. Your argument is that Esooa can read you, therefore Delta should be able to. This makes no sense if Esooa is reading you with TMI. I don't believe you actually considered that Esooa could have TMI here.

How does it not make sense

Esooa is town: She reads me town despite having a history of not doing so, ergo its more likely Im town

Esooa is wolf: She literally just spewed me town

Result: Xanjori=town.

[Xanjori]

Imma say it, if Esooa can see Im town (not being mean, but shes wolf read me in 4½ games we played (I was only wolf in 1)) then you are having a serious skill issue delta (or are wolfing)

Why is your first thought that I'm struggling town? Havent you said you think I'm mafia here??

I mean Im offering you a life raft here and you're just continuing to dive deeper and deeper into that wolf pit.

[Seanzie]

Imma say it, if Esooa can see Im town (not being mean, but shes wolf read me in 4½ games we played (I was only wolf in 1)) then you are having a serious skill issue delta (or are wolfing)

Did you consider the possibility that could Esooa have TMI?

Yes. Which TMI's me town anyway

But your argument makes no sense in that case. Your argument is that Esooa can read you, therefore Delta should be able to. This makes no sense if Esooa is reading you with TMI. I don't believe you actually considered that Esooa could have TMI here.

How does it not make sense

Esooa is town: She reads me town despite having a history of not doing so, ergo its more likely Im town

Esooa is wolf: She literally just spewed me town

Result: Xanjori=town.

Your argument is that Esooa can read you, therefore Delta should be able to.

[Xanjori]

Imma say it, if Esooa can see Im town (not being mean, but shes wolf read me in 4½ games we played (I was only wolf in 1)) then you are having a serious skill issue delta (or are wolfing)

Did you consider the possibility that could Esooa have TMI?

Yes. Which TMI's me town anyway

But your argument makes no sense in that case. Your argument is that Esooa can read you, therefore Delta should be able to. This makes no sense if Esooa is reading you with TMI. I don't believe you actually considered that Esooa could have TMI here.

How does it not make sense

Esooa is town: She reads me town despite having a history of not doing so, ergo its more likely Im town

Esooa is wolf: She literally just spewed me town

Result: Xanjori=town.

Your argument is that Esooa can read you, therefore Delta should be able to.

Are you actually reading what I type or reading what you want to be true?

[Seanzie]

Imma say it, if Esooa can see Im town (not being mean, but shes wolf read me in 4½ games we played (I was only wolf in 1)) then you are having a serious skill issue delta (or are wolfing)

Did you consider the possibility that could Esooa have TMI?

Yes. Which TMI's me town anyway

But your argument makes no sense in that case. Your argument is that Esooa can read you, therefore Delta should be able to. This makes no sense if Esooa is reading you with TMI. I don't believe you actually considered that Esooa could have TMI here.

How does it not make sense

Esooa is town: She reads me town despite having a history of not doing so, ergo its more likely Im town

Esooa is wolf: She literally just spewed me town

Result: Xanjori=town.

Your argument is that Esooa can read you, therefore Delta should be able to.

Are you actually reading what I type or reading what you want to be true?

You're clearly trying to fake the talking-past-you thing from last game.

[Delta]

Imma say it, if Esooa can see Im town (not being mean, but shes wolf read me in 4½ games we played (I was only wolf in 1)) then you are having a serious skill issue delta (or are wolfing)

Why is your first thought that I'm struggling town? Havent you said you think I'm mafia here??

I mean Im offering you a life raft here and you're just continuing to dive deeper and deeper into that wolf pit.

?????

you're not offering shit, your post is just "haha skill issue delta" and then when I point out that the post doesnt hold up with how you've been reading me you try brush it off and saying I'm being wolfy for it

[Xanjori]

Maybe the team is actually just delta+Seanzie.

[Xanjori]

Did you consider the possibility that could Esooa have TMI?

Yes. Which TMI's me town anyway

But your argument makes no sense in that case. Your argument is that Esooa can read you, therefore Delta should be able to. This makes no sense if Esooa is reading you with TMI. I don't believe you actually considered that Esooa could have TMI here.

How does it not make sense

Esooa is town: She reads me town despite having a history of not doing so, ergo its more likely Im town

Esooa is wolf: She literally just spewed me town

Result: Xanjori=town.

Your argument is that Esooa can read you, therefore Delta should be able to.

Are you actually reading what I type or reading what you want to be true?

You're clearly trying to fake the talking-past-you thing from last game.

You asked a question, I answered it, you said "I dont believe you".

Why ask the question? Who is talking past whom here?

[Seanzie]

Yes. Which TMI's me town anyway

But your argument makes no sense in that case. Your argument is that Esooa can read you, therefore Delta should be able to. This makes no sense if Esooa is reading you with TMI. I don't believe you actually considered that Esooa could have TMI here.

How does it not make sense

Esooa is town: She reads me town despite having a history of not doing so, ergo its more likely Im town

Esooa is wolf: She literally just spewed me town

Result: Xanjori=town.

Your argument is that Esooa can read you, therefore Delta should be able to.

Are you actually reading what I type or reading what you want to be true?

You're clearly trying to fake the talking-past-you thing from last game.

You asked a question, I answered it, you said "I dont believe you".

Why ask the question? Who is talking past whom here?

You deliberately are avoiding answering my actual inquiry and then claiming I'm not reading.

Respond to "Your argument is that Esooa can read you, therefore Delta should be able to." or just stop. Because that IS what your post said. You said Delta is either having a skill issue or is a wolf in regards to their read on you.

[Xanjori]

But your argument makes no sense in that case. Your argument is that Esooa can read you, therefore Delta should be able to. This makes no sense if Esooa is reading you with TMI. I don't believe you actually considered that Esooa could have TMI here.

How does it not make sense

Esooa is town: She reads me town despite having a history of not doing so, ergo its more likely Im town

Esooa is wolf: She literally just spewed me town

Result: Xanjori=town.

Your argument is that Esooa can read you, therefore Delta should be able to.

Are you actually reading what I type or reading what you want to be true?

You're clearly trying to fake the talking-past-you thing from last game.

You asked a question, I answered it, you said "I dont believe you".

Why ask the question? Who is talking past whom here?

You deliberately are avoiding answering my actual inquiry and then claiming I'm not reading.

Respond to "Your argument is that Esooa can read you, therefore Delta should be able to." or just stop. Because that IS what your post said. You said Delta is either having a skill issue or is a wolf in regards to their read on you.

Which question did I not respond to?

[Seanzie]

How does it not make sense

Esooa is town: She reads me town despite having a history of not doing so, ergo its more likely Im town

Esooa is wolf: She literally just spewed me town

Result: Xanjori=town.

Your argument is that Esooa can read you, therefore Delta should be able to.

Are you actually reading what I type or reading what you want to be true?

You're clearly trying to fake the talking-past-you thing from last game.

You asked a question, I answered it, you said "I dont believe you".

Why ask the question? Who is talking past whom here?

You deliberately are avoiding answering my actual inquiry and then claiming I'm not reading.

Respond to "Your argument is that Esooa can read you, therefore Delta should be able to." or just stop. Because that IS what your post said. You said Delta is either having a skill issue or is a wolf in regards to their read on you.

Which question did I not respond to?

I guess it isn't a question, but a point against you, which you are making out to be something completely different.

[Seanzie]

For those of you who don't want a headache, the TLDR between Xan and me just now is that

Xan didn't even consider Esooa could have TMI, and tried to use Esooa's read on Xan to say that Delta has to be bad (or skill issue - which I absolutely hate it when people say this, it comes off as extremely rude IMO). I think this likely says that Xan is Mafia, and if Xan is mafia, I think Delta is not. I think Esooa is likely not mafia with Xan, but I wouldn't bet FX on that part.

[Xanjori]

Your argument is that Esooa can read you, therefore Delta should be able to.

Are you actually reading what I type or reading what you want to be true?

You're clearly trying to fake the talking-past-you thing from last game.

You asked a question, I answered it, you said "I dont believe you".

Why ask the question? Who is talking past whom here?

You deliberately are avoiding answering my actual inquiry and then claiming I'm not reading.

Respond to "Your argument is that Esooa can read you, therefore Delta should be able to." or just stop. Because that IS what your post said. You said Delta is either having a skill issue or is a wolf in regards to their read on you.

Which question did I not respond to?

I guess it isn't a question, but a point against you, which you are making out to be something completely different.

So your point is that Esooa could be a wolf TMIing me town and this makes me a wolf? Ok.

[Seanzie]

I've also decided that I'm not going to engage with Xan anymore until they prove that they can do so in a productive manner.

If someone else wants me to answer to something Xan says/asks, I am happy to engage with that 3rd person about it though.

[Xanjori]

So the actual TLDR:

I pointed out that someone that historically doesnt TR me is doing so. So people that are town should also be able to find me as town.

Implicit in this is that if Esooa is a wolf she has TMI'd me town, which I specifically address when asked to do so.

Seanzie "doesnt believe this" despite asking the question, and is now refusing to engage any more because he has been made to look worse and worse. Unless you actually believe the team is exactly me/Esooa then Seanzies logic does not hold up at all here.

[tutuu]

Ur all town prob

[Seanzie]

So the actual TLDR:

I pointed out that someone that historically doesnt TR me is doing so. So people that are town should also be able to find me as town.

Implicit in this is that if Esooa is a wolf she has TMI'd me town, which I specifically address when asked to do so.

Seanzie "doesnt believe this" despite asking the question, and is now refusing to engage any more because he has been made to look worse and worse. Unless you actually believe the team is exactly me/Esooa then Seanzies logic does not hold up at all here.

This conclusion does not follow from what you've "Implicitly assumed". I think your claim that you "implicitly assumed" this is BS.

[Xanjori]

I've also decided that I'm not going to engage with Xan anymore until they prove that they can do so in a productive manner.

Also this is rich coming from you. No matter what or how Ive posted this game you've simply responded "Xan=scum." If you're town this is a truly counter-productive way to play the game. If you're a wolf its merely a frustrating way to play the game. Whichever it is I think you should seriously reconsider what the word "game" means and how you engage other people in it.

As for the wolf reads on me.

Zenon has always read me wolf, but then Ive been a wolf in both games Ive played with her, so shes never seen me town. She has however offered up no reason for it and is playing in a way that contradicts how she believes the game should be played (based on things shes said before.)

Delta's reads are also in bad faith, especially after having just played a game with me where I did nothing but pocket people as a wolf. Which Ive not even gone near doing this game. Whats more he has literally just questioned the read of the person that absolutely buried me in F3 trying to use that previous game as an example. Anyone that wants to read that game can do so but you'll find there is no resemblance at all to this game.

If Belzy is a wolf theyre just sheeping on what looks like an easy train. I do find it odd that they stated they dont care about this game and will troll but then havent really trolled at all imo and significantly increased their post count from last game.

Ted seems to be approaching things in a way that indicates them to be town and Epi also looks townish from what Ive read. (Tied into this I wonder why Seanzie never even considered why w!Xanjori would point out he had missed some posts from Ted that look quite towny.)

I dont think Esooa is a wolf, because I actually dont think she'd be this relaxed and just sitting back while wolfing, but then Ive never seen her wolf its just not an expected play-style. I also dont think she'd gain anything from spewing me town as a wolf as Im generally considered a ML target rather than a NK target.

[Delta]

I've also decided that I'm not going to engage with Xan anymore until they prove that they can do so in a productive manner.

Also this is rich coming from you. No matter what or how Ive posted this game you've simply responded "Xan=scum." If you're town this is a truly counter-productive way to play the game. If you're a wolf its merely a frustrating way to play the game. Whichever it is I think you should seriously reconsider what the word "game" means and how you engage other people in it.

Delta's reads are also in bad faith, especially after having just played a game with me where I did nothing but pocket people as a wolf. Which Ive not even gone near doing this game. Whats more he has literally just questioned the read of the person that absolutely buried me in F3 trying to use that previous game as an example. Anyone that wants to read that game can do so but you'll find there is no resemblance at all to this game.

first bit is fucking rich coming from you yourself considering that is exactly how you've approached me this game and somewhat eod1 last game. but its fine because im meant to just sit there and take it? cheers man.

i doubt that you'd take the same approach twice as a wolf, so no shit you might not be as pockety, but i think on a base level how youve approached this game is the polar opposite to before the rerand. whether you want to argue if this is similar to the cats game or not. it is also not just me saying that your game now is different to pre-rerand.

i do genuinely implore people to read how xan played the 13er though because i think there are similarities, whether he wants to downplay them or not

[Delta]

i have tried to work with you here. tried to communicate why i think youre mafia here. time and time again your response has been 'haha delta woofin boxed in outed' and just ignored me further

yeah. it is frustrating. no shit.

[Delta]

Ur all town prob

thank you for your input into this conversation but if we're all town then who are the wolves T_T

[tutuu]

Ur all town prob

thank you for your input into this conversation but if we're all town then who are the wolves T_T

Belzy and ted

[Delta]

Ur all town prob

thank you for your input into this conversation but if we're all town then who are the wolves T_T

Belzy and ted

oh shit theres an answer to that
walk me through both?
because i kinda thought the increased posting was towny

[tutuu]

"If Belzy is a wolf theyre just sheeping on what looks like an easy train. I do find it odd that they stated they dont care about this game and will troll but then havent really trolled at all imo and significantly increased their post count from last game."

Quoted from xan

Yeah let's chop em imo

[tutuu]

Ur all town prob

thank you for your input into this conversation but if we're all town then who are the wolves T_T

Belzy and ted

oh shit theres an answer to that
walk me through both?
because i kinda thought the increased posting was towny

Belzy id just be repeating myself most of my posts r calling them mafia

Ted i think maf via process of elimination im finding everyone else town but him

[Delta]

Ur all town prob

thank you for your input into this conversation but if we're all town then who are the wolves T_T

Belzy and ted

oh shit theres an answer to that
walk me through both?
because i kinda thought the increased posting was towny

Belzy id just be repeating myself most of my posts r calling them mafia

Ted i think maf via process of elimination im finding everyone else town but him

OH youve explained belzy before tyty ill go iso

[tutuu]

Ted also got super quiet at start of the rerand

[Seanzie]

I've also decided that I'm not going to engage with Xan anymore until they prove that they can do so in a productive manner.

Also this is rich coming from you. No matter what or how Ive posted this game you've simply responded "Xan=scum." If you're town this is a truly counter-productive way to play the game. If you're a wolf its merely a frustrating way to play the game. Whichever it is I think you should seriously reconsider what the word "game" means and how you engage other people in it.

As for the wolf reads on me.

Zenon has always read me wolf, but then Ive been a wolf in both games Ive played with her, so shes never seen me town. She has however offered up no reason for it and is playing in a way that contradicts how she believes the game should be played (based on things shes said before.)

Delta's reads are also in bad faith, especially after having just played a game with me where I did nothing but pocket people as a wolf. Which Ive not even gone near doing this game. Whats more he has literally just questioned the read of the person that absolutely buried me in F3 trying to use that previous game as an example. Anyone that wants to read that game can do so but you'll find there is no resemblance at all to this game.

If Belzy is a wolf theyre just sheeping on what looks like an easy train. I do find it odd that they stated they dont care about this game and will troll but then havent really trolled at all imo and significantly increased their post count from last game.

Ted seems to be approaching things in a way that indicates them to be town and Epi also looks townish from what Ive read. (Tied into this I wonder why Seanzie never even considered why w!Xanjori would point out he had missed some posts from Ted that look quite towny.)

I dont think Esooa is a wolf, because I actually dont think she'd be this relaxed and just sitting back while wolfing, but then Ive never seen her wolf its just not an expected play-style. I also dont think she'd gain anything from spewing me town as a wolf as Im generally considered a ML target rather than a NK target.

Thanks for the input. I hope you consider it too before you call people dumb, tell people they have skill issues, etc.

I don't like engaging with you because I feel like you are always either putting up straw-man after straw-man or just straight-up claiming I'm not reading when clearly I am, which does not help to move us to a place of common ground, and makes the engagement go nowhere.

Xan earlier was complaining that people were wolfreading him for being "nice", which easily could be pockety. Only changing it up after he was called out on it.

Do you expect to be lock!town because you gave one reasonable read?

How exactly does wolf!Esooa spew you town here? Because she said "Xan town" with no other explanation in a post with 3 other town reads? Also, it's a pretty common strategy for wolves to protect some townies who are easy miselims - it can pocket them and/or can save an easy miselim for late game.

[Seanzie]

Ur all town prob

thank you for your input into this conversation but if we're all town then who are the wolves T_T

Belzy and ted

Ted had some very meaty posts in their ISO, which are pretty starkly constrasted with how they were playing last game. Did you see those, and how does this affect your view of TeD?

[tutuu]

Ur all town prob

thank you for your input into this conversation but if we're all town then who are the wolves T_T

Belzy and ted

Ted had some very meaty posts in their ISO, which are pretty starkly constrasted with how they were playing last game. Did you see those, and how does this affect your view of TeD?

I disagree

[Seanzie]

Ur all town prob

thank you for your input into this conversation but if we're all town then who are the wolves T_T

Belzy and ted

Ted had some very meaty posts in their ISO, which are pretty starkly constrasted with how they were playing last game. Did you see those, and how does this affect your view of TeD?

I disagree

Can you go through, for example, what you think of his case on Delta?

[Seanzie]

Ted also got super quiet at start of the rerand

Can you explain how you're interpreting this as AI?

[tutuu]

Ur all town prob

thank you for your input into this conversation but if we're all town then who are the wolves T_T

Belzy and ted

Ted had some very meaty posts in their ISO, which are pretty starkly constrasted with how they were playing last game. Did you see those, and how does this affect your view of TeD?

I disagree

Can you go through, for example, what you think of his case on Delta?

Didnt read

[tutuu]

Ted also got super quiet at start of the rerand

Can you explain how you're interpreting this as AI?

He got scared not knowing how to switch it up coz how often do u wolf in this position - never

[Belzy]

"If Belzy is a wolf theyre just sheeping on what looks like an easy train. I do find it odd that they stated they dont care about this game and will troll but then havent really trolled at all imo and significantly increased their post count from last game."

Quoted from xan

Yeah let's chop em imo

You and Xan are much better chops.

And I was mad at the rerand and stuff when I said not caring and trolling. Don't you have emotions?

[Seanzie]

Ur all town prob

thank you for your input into this conversation but if we're all town then who are the wolves T_T

Belzy and ted

Ted had some very meaty posts in their ISO, which are pretty starkly constrasted with how they were playing last game. Did you see those, and how does this affect your view of TeD?

I disagree

Can you go through, for example, what you think of his case on Delta?

Didnt read

Here, I'll make it easy for you:

guess it's time to type some things out as we are sitting ducks

oh my fucking god i just deleted my thoughts on belzy/seanzie
fuck my life

belzy's intro was weird & i put a lot of stock into how people enter the game. something something chat player stuff. the following posts they had responding to me were also overly defensive of this idea that someone's intro doesnt matter & doesnt have to be good like yeh... it kinda does lol?

but then seanzie's wall to them later on when belzy had just gone 'teehee lets kill seanzie he survives d1 too much' was way over the top for a joke ab last game. and i heavily doubt they can be w/w off of it because who sees their partner say that and pulls up a fuckin list of games they were in together.

i should probably learn from xan/sam being v/v last game but think theres a wolf in belzy/seanzie wheee

i thought this line was very strange, because i don't see how that correlates to the example in this game. it almost feels credit reaching like he's making us think "hey look, im assessing things and thinking beyond surface level". if you read it, he has 2 independent wolf reads of belzy / sean, which is fine.

he thinks belzy / sean aren't w/w because of the quoting games thing, which is fine.

but then laying out the possibility of them being v/v because xan / sam happened to be in the last game (when the circumstances are completely different?) is a step that i don't think villas would reach

kinda dont really see the point in doing any of that?

what do you gain from it

xan & belzy both came into this game in a way that makes me feel kinda bleh

xan because he feels more fluffy than last game which is a wolftell for him & he seems kinda hesitant about his approach to me this time around
belzy because they go to call zenon town despite literally just admitting they wouldve struggled to find w!zenon & her intro isnt any diff. kinda feels like tmiing zenon town since tmi perspective or wtv.

can you tell im pulling shit out of my ass someone do something please

I am always bleh early game. You don't know what I am doing.

yes I dont know what you're doing thats why I dont like your intro.

these quotes show a pattern of him pushing people based on "not knowing what they are doing", which shows a lack of curiosity and surface level pushes. he's not really assessing "he did this, it's weird, what could be the wolf motivation?", he's rather pushing on things that seem wolfy than actually being wolf motivated.

[Belzy]

Ngl im struggling to find the mafia

Look outside my spot. You may have better luck.

[Esooa]

Yes. Which TMI's me town anyway

But your argument makes no sense in that case. Your argument is that Esooa can read you, therefore Delta should be able to. This makes no sense if Esooa is reading you with TMI. I don't believe you actually considered that Esooa could have TMI here.

How does it not make sense

Esooa is town: She reads me town despite having a history of not doing so, ergo its more likely Im town

Esooa is wolf: She literally just spewed me town

Result: Xanjori=town.

Your argument is that Esooa can read you, therefore Delta should be able to.

Are you actually reading what I type or reading what you want to be true?

You're clearly trying to fake the talking-past-you thing from last game.

You asked a question, I answered it, you said "I dont believe you".

Why ask the question? Who is talking past whom here?

Seanzie is being reasonable and based here

I'll explain in an hour if needed

[tutuu]

"If Belzy is a wolf theyre just sheeping on what looks like an easy train. I do find it odd that they stated they dont care about this game and will troll but then havent really trolled at all imo and significantly increased their post count from last game."

Quoted from xan

Yeah let's chop em imo

You and Xan are much better chops.

And I was mad at the rerand and stuff when I said not caring and trolling. Don't you have emotions?

U got mad that the doomed game we were prolly gonna lose without chopping a single maf got reranded?

[tutuu]

thank you for your input into this conversation but if we're all town then who are the wolves T_T

Belzy and ted

Ted had some very meaty posts in their ISO, which are pretty starkly constrasted with how they were playing last game. Did you see those, and how does this affect your view of TeD?

I disagree

Can you go through, for example, what you think of his case on Delta?

Didnt read

Here, I'll make it easy for you:

guess it's time to type some things out as we are sitting ducks

oh my fucking god i just deleted my thoughts on belzy/seanzie
fuck my life

belzy's intro was weird & i put a lot of stock into how people enter the game. something something chat player stuff. the following posts they had responding to me were also overly defensive of this idea that someone's intro doesnt matter & doesnt have to be good like yeh... it kinda does lol?

but then seanzie's wall to them later on when belzy had just gone 'teehee lets kill seanzie he survives d1 too much' was way over the top for a joke ab last game. and i heavily doubt they can be w/w off of it because who sees their partner say that and pulls up a fuckin list of games they were in together.

i should probably learn from xan/sam being v/v last game but think theres a wolf in belzy/seanzie wheee

i thought this line was very strange, because i don't see how that correlates to the example in this game. it almost feels credit reaching like he's making us think "hey look, im assessing things and thinking beyond surface level". if you read it, he has 2 independent wolf reads of belzy / sean, which is fine.

he thinks belzy / sean aren't w/w because of the quoting games thing, which is fine.

but then laying out the possibility of them being v/v because xan / sam happened to be in the last game (when the circumstances are completely different?) is a step that i don't think villas would reach

kinda dont really see the point in doing any of that?

what do you gain from it

xan & belzy both came into this game in a way that makes me feel kinda bleh

xan because he feels more fluffy than last game which is a wolftell for him & he seems kinda hesitant about his approach to me this time around
belzy because they go to call zenon town despite literally just admitting they wouldve struggled to find w!zenon & her intro isnt any diff. kinda feels like tmiing zenon town since tmi perspective or wtv.

can you tell im pulling shit out of my ass someone do something please

I am always bleh early game. You don't know what I am doing.

yes I dont know what you're doing thats why I dont like your intro.

these quotes show a pattern of him pushing people based on "not knowing what they are doing", which shows a lack of curiosity and surface level pushes. he's not really assessing "he did this, it's weird, what could be the wolf motivation?", he's rather pushing on things that seem wolfy than actually being wolf motivated.

Doesnt sound different to me from his push on me last game

[Belzy]

"If Belzy is a wolf theyre just sheeping on what looks like an easy train. I do find it odd that they stated they dont care about this game and will troll but then havent really trolled at all imo and significantly increased their post count from last game."

Quoted from xan

Yeah let's chop em imo

You and Xan are much better chops.

And I was mad at the rerand and stuff when I said not caring and trolling. Don't you have emotions?

U got mad that the doomed game we were prolly gonna lose without chopping a single maf got reranded?

That's not the only thing that went wrong. Okay?

[tedxtr]

Doesnt sound different to me from his push on me last game

respecting your elders, being cautious

i rate that

[tedxtr]

Ted also got super quiet at start of the rerand

Can you explain how you're interpreting this as AI?

He got scared not knowing how to switch it up coz how often do u wolf in this position - never

[tutuu]

If xan flips wolf here i prolly eat the chop tmrw but 1 for 1 id be turbo happy id take it any day

If he flips town i get to feel smart

These wagons sound like win win to me. Dope af

[tedxtr]

what wagons, it's literally just him

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

[VOTE: Zenon ] aubergine

my gut feeling without re-reading, just voting based on the feelings i remember back when i was skimming

As someone who is considering a Zenon is wolf the sequel as well, can you elobarate on the gut feeling to me? Cuz last night I felt similar to that

im not sure how much i believe it anymore, but i was thinking her read on you is similar to a read she had on someone else from last game when we were pushing on them, think it was tutuu

and despite having a contrarian PoV, her vote doesn't really go with that view imo.

but on tone she sounds a bit better i guess

Last game also for me plays a part in my feels of distrust to Zenon, but I am also not sure how to read her.

So basically I'm a fear kill

You are under investigation. I never voted for you. Never called you my top wolf read. Nor top 2.

Fear kill? I fear plenty names, cuz it's not like it's obvious who the two wolves are.

I guess? I don't fear anyone tbh