Se7en Mafia [GAME OVER- MAFIA WIN]

[Thunal33]

Game is hard. Everyone talk to me about SVS. I'm doubting that read now.

Right now I don't really feel confident calling anyone town including her and it's frustrating me. I do believe Kate genuinely read her as town and when I checked her ISO against her wolf game that I spectated her solving felt better here. Like her thoughts on Kate feel like she had actually tried to solve Kate. I'd guess she's uninformed at least.

[Thunal33]

I feel similarly with Michelle. I think Michelle's solving is in her town meta too and I don't think she'd do something like ask Rondo if he cares town is going to lose if she knows Rondo isn't mafia so I think she's at least uninformed.

[Thunal33]

I've even tinfoiled that Falcon could be a sin targeted by mafia or a mafia targeted by a sin but I think it's unlikely enough that I'm not going to consider Falcon.

[DrWilgy]

Am I dumb or something? Why is Dubz incorrect to yeet rn?

[DrWilgy]

I keep thinking I understand, but then realize I don't.

[Thunal33]

Am I dumb or something? Why is Dubz incorrect to yeet rn?

Right now there's either 3 civ 2 sin 2 mafia or 3 civ 3 sin 1 mafia. If we eliminate Dubz, there's either 3 civ 1 sin 2 mafia or 3 civ 2 sin 1 mafia. If Falcon dies from being in critical condition and is civ, it's 2 civ 1 sin 2 mafia (loss) or 2 civ 2 sin 1 mafia. If mafia NKs a civ in addition then the 1 mafia situation is also a loss since it would be 1 civ 2 sin 1 mafia.

So if we did eliminate Dubz we'd basically be betting on some civ deaths not happening. It's possible town could win if say, there's 1 mafia and Falcon doesn't die or if there's 1 mafia and Falcon or the NK isn't civ. But I don't want to risk it.

[Thunal33]

I had to double check that in my head since I got confused and I'm a math nerd.

[DrWilgy]

Am I dumb or something? Why is Dubz incorrect to yeet rn?

Right now there's either 3 civ 2 sin 2 mafia or 3 civ 3 sin 1 mafia. If we eliminate Dubz, there's either 3 civ 1 sin 2 mafia or 3 civ 2 sin 1 mafia. If Falcon dies from being in critical condition and is civ, it's 2 civ 1 sin 2 mafia (loss) or 2 civ 2 sin 1 mafia. If mafia NKs a civ in addition then the 1 mafia situation is also a loss since it would be 1 civ 2 sin 1 mafia.

So if we did eliminate Dubz we'd basically be betting on some civ deaths not happening. It's possible town could win if say, there's 1 mafia and Falcon doesn't die or if there's 1 mafia and Falcon or the NK isn't civ. But I don't want to risk it.

Ok, See I get that, but how do we know Dubz is a sin and not just JD?

[Thunal33]

Am I dumb or something? Why is Dubz incorrect to yeet rn?

Right now there's either 3 civ 2 sin 2 mafia or 3 civ 3 sin 1 mafia. If we eliminate Dubz, there's either 3 civ 1 sin 2 mafia or 3 civ 2 sin 1 mafia. If Falcon dies from being in critical condition and is civ, it's 2 civ 1 sin 2 mafia (loss) or 2 civ 2 sin 1 mafia. If mafia NKs a civ in addition then the 1 mafia situation is also a loss since it would be 1 civ 2 sin 1 mafia.

So if we did eliminate Dubz we'd basically be betting on some civ deaths not happening. It's possible town could win if say, there's 1 mafia and Falcon doesn't die or if there's 1 mafia and Falcon or the NK isn't civ. But I don't want to risk it.

Ok, See I get that, but how do we know Dubz is a sin and not just JD?

We don't for sure. I think she is because it seems like the role in the setup is an every night thing just like Dubz claimed to have. Nobody else claimed the post restrictions or Nanook's block either.

[Dubz]

Sorry. Feeling pretty demotivated/kinda like my fate is entirely out of my hands at this point.

Gonna catch up on the last couple pages but I don't really have anything insightful to add.

[Dubz]

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all other Deadly Sins die or change alignment before all Virtues are dead, you will become town-aligned
-If all Virtues die before all other Sins die, you will become mafia, gaining BTSC with all other members a full phase after becoming mafia

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Any other sin dying would be fine ig, except there's one more sin with the same ability to become town or one who only keep 3rd party rand and can't become mafia.

If we are at 2 baddies rn, there's still hope anyway.

@Falcon45ca i need you buddy

Hey ho, I'm here

hey ho, talk to me about everyone, how you see them, tinfoils and all

Mata doesn't seem towny at all.


Thunal has been pretty towny all game, yet hasn't been NKd.


SVS seems to be towny when they need to be


Dubs is certainly a Sin


Wilgy miiiiiiiight be town, but I'd also not be surprised in the least he's JD


I'd like to think you're town, but you're pinging me w/ pocket vibes a bit as well

I ping you with the request to play the game. I know you care more about the game than nook and working with the only player who seems mech town is just logical

Do you trust Dubz's claim?

About SVS if you are town and Wilgy is town, then she is not, but idk if that makes her JD. She wasn't content about her posting restriction but she burned her posts pretty fast without voting and I don't like it

I didn't mean pinging in that sense, I meant more that I'm wary that you are pocketing.



I don't think Dubz blocking Nook was towny at all, and I''' be surprised if they're not Maf aligned

I've been playing from an entirely town mindset so I'm surprised that's your impression. Especially given that multiple people voiced suspicion of him.

[Dubz]

I can't tell if mata and Wilgy are literally the team and are wilfully misunderstanding mechanics to keep me as an option for yeeting...or if it's actually Michelle and Thunal and I'm pocketed and they're pushing against voting me because they're looking for a real misyeet

I now reiterate that I hate endgame

[DrWilgy]

Am I dumb or something? Why is Dubz incorrect to yeet rn?

Right now there's either 3 civ 2 sin 2 mafia or 3 civ 3 sin 1 mafia. If we eliminate Dubz, there's either 3 civ 1 sin 2 mafia or 3 civ 2 sin 1 mafia. If Falcon dies from being in critical condition and is civ, it's 2 civ 1 sin 2 mafia (loss) or 2 civ 2 sin 1 mafia. If mafia NKs a civ in addition then the 1 mafia situation is also a loss since it would be 1 civ 2 sin 1 mafia.

So if we did eliminate Dubz we'd basically be betting on some civ deaths not happening. It's possible town could win if say, there's 1 mafia and Falcon doesn't die or if there's 1 mafia and Falcon or the NK isn't civ. But I don't want to risk it.

Ok, See I get that, but how do we know Dubz is a sin and not just JD?

We don't for sure. I think she is because it seems like the role in the setup is an every night thing just like Dubz claimed to have. Nobody else claimed the post restrictions or Nanook's block either.

Why would there be a need to cc that if you are Sloth and are expecting to swap teams?

[DrWilgy]

I can't tell if mata and Wilgy are literally the team and are wilfully misunderstanding mechanics to keep me as an option for yeeting...or if it's actually Michelle and Thunal and I'm pocketed and they're pushing against voting me because they're looking for a real misyeet

I now reiterate that I hate endgame

I mean, I just see the mech that makes you 3p as not nearly as sound as the mech that made me clear. It's very odd that there was so much questioning of the mechanics around me, but not the claim tomfoolery.

[Thunal33]

Am I dumb or something? Why is Dubz incorrect to yeet rn?

Right now there's either 3 civ 2 sin 2 mafia or 3 civ 3 sin 1 mafia. If we eliminate Dubz, there's either 3 civ 1 sin 2 mafia or 3 civ 2 sin 1 mafia. If Falcon dies from being in critical condition and is civ, it's 2 civ 1 sin 2 mafia (loss) or 2 civ 2 sin 1 mafia. If mafia NKs a civ in addition then the 1 mafia situation is also a loss since it would be 1 civ 2 sin 1 mafia.

So if we did eliminate Dubz we'd basically be betting on some civ deaths not happening. It's possible town could win if say, there's 1 mafia and Falcon doesn't die or if there's 1 mafia and Falcon or the NK isn't civ. But I don't want to risk it.

Ok, See I get that, but how do we know Dubz is a sin and not just JD?

We don't for sure. I think she is because it seems like the role in the setup is an every night thing just like Dubz claimed to have. Nobody else claimed the post restrictions or Nanook's block either.

Why would there be a need to cc that if you are Sloth and are expecting to swap teams?

That's actually a good point on the post restrictions that were public. For the block, if Dubz didn't block Nanook someone else did and I don't think she would know if sloth would be that person.

[Thunal33]

I'm looking at Dubz's posts rn and I think on a social level she was acting like a 3p with a real claim instead of a fakeclaiming mafia. Like this reads honest to me.

I don't know how much I am legally allowed to say without breaking the rules about revealing so I will just say I have been trying really hard to hunt for Sins/JD and just been bad at it

[Matahari]

@Dubz why did you target a low poster with a curse that asks him to low post? And, did you steal his vote? Or did you block him? Or both? Just curious.

[DrWilgy]

I feel that Dubz is like, the correct choice only if Thunal is a teammate.

SVS not being here for the past 24 hours gives me the heejobeejos

[DrWilgy]

[VOTE: SVS] aubergine come play fam

[Thunal33]

@Dubz why did you target a low poster with a curse that asks him to low post? And, did you steal his vote? Or did you block him? Or both? Just curious.

Is there anything else you want to say?

[Thunal33]

I feel that Dubz is like, the correct choice only if Thunal is a teammate.

SVS not being here for the past 24 hours gives me the heejobeejos

I do wonder why she isn't breaking her postcap.

[Michelle]

Everyone choose to fake towny intent except Falcon and SVS.
Except nook, as well.
So I am not ready to go against SVS.
She may not act of she is not in danger because she met the not receive the RB condition and there is that

[Thunal33]

I think it makes the most sense to stay on Mata. I'm fairly confident she isn't town at this point and I don't have the same level of confidence with anyone else.

[Michelle]

[VOTE: SVS] aubergine come play fam

No

[Michelle]

I think it makes the most sense to stay on Mata. I'm fairly confident she isn't town at this point and I don't have the same level of confidence with anyone else.

I only hope she is mafia and not a sin, fingers crossed

[DrWilgy]

I feel that Dubz is like, the correct choice only if Thunal is a teammate.

SVS not being here for the past 24 hours gives me the heejobeejos

I do wonder why she isn't breaking her postcap.

Could JD afford to potentially be blocked?

[Thunal33]

I think it makes the most sense to stay on Mata. I'm fairly confident she isn't town at this point and I don't have the same level of confidence with anyone else.

I only hope she is mafia and not a sin, fingers crossed

Me too. I don't like waiting for flips.

[Michelle]

I slept too little time

[DrWilgy]

[VOTE: SVS] aubergine come play fam

No

I know I'm just paranoid. I'm seeing no resistance to Mata going over, not even from Mata. Freaks me the fuck out.

[Michelle]

I feel that Dubz is like, the correct choice only if Thunal is a teammate.

SVS not being here for the past 24 hours gives me the heejobeejos

I do wonder why she isn't breaking her postcap.

Could JD afford to potentially be blocked?

Could town in this position?

[Thunal33]

I feel that Dubz is like, the correct choice only if Thunal is a teammate.

SVS not being here for the past 24 hours gives me the heejobeejos

I do wonder why she isn't breaking her postcap.

Could JD afford to potentially be blocked?

Maybe not. But I think a town with a night action or a 3p sin wouldn't want to be blocked either.

[Thunal33]

I slept too little time

I mean, it's a lot of dedication to wake up for a 4 am EoD at all.

[Michelle]

[VOTE: SVS] aubergine come play fam

No

I know I'm just paranoid. I'm seeing no resistance to Mata going over, not even from Mata. Freaks me the fuck out.

Mata was defended all game by one or another. She would be chopped long ago if not for ideas like this is her game regardless alignament and she never can play more than D3 without being (mis)chopped.

The way she voiced suspicion on D1 only on top wagons is a big question mark for me.

[S~V~S]

[VOTE: SVS] aubergine come play fam

I was planning on it but I got post capped 2 day phases in a row. 7 per day. Today by Dubz, not sure who by yesterday. That kinda sucked the life out of me, tbh.

The fact that Dubz still hasn’t voted makes me nervous that I wouldn’t have liked what she did with my vote so I’m ok being blocked rather than losing my vote.

I’m breaking it now, but I have no choice since Scotty said I have to post, I can’t just vote in the poll, but not post.

Sorry Mata. I don’t think you’re Doe, but I don’t think you’re town either.

[VOTE: matahari] aubergine

[DrWilgy]

Oh God. The more I think on it the more I think SVS dodging the RB is maf indicative.

*Panicking*

[DrWilgy]

oh lmao, safe

[Michelle]

I slept too little time

I mean, it's a lot of dedication to wake up for a 4 am EoD at all.

I got used to it, that's one reason I should stop playing here and at MU.
I came here on this game to play with the players I like so much, I couldn’t resist

[Michelle]

Oh God. The more I think on it the more I think SVS dodging the RB is maf indicative.

*Panicking*

[Thunal33]

I slept too little time

I mean, it's a lot of dedication to wake up for a 4 am EoD at all.

I got used to it, that's one reason I should stop playing here and at MU.
I came here on this game to play with the players I like so much, I couldn’t resist

Aw, that's really nice.

[Thunal33]

I really hope town can win this.

[Michelle]

[VOTE: Matahari] aubergine

Sorry if wrong, honestly...

[DrWilgy]

Oh God. The more I think on it the more I think SVS dodging the RB is maf indicative.

*Panicking*

You act like it's unwarranted

[S~V~S]

Oh God. The more I think on it the more I think SVS dodging the RB is maf indicative.

*Panicking*

[Michelle]

I really hope town can win this.

I still play because I don't give up until it's game over, but town played without the benefit of the doubt for Porscha, I played without the benefit of the doubt for tutuu, nook played like the game doesn't count, etc.

[Scotty]

Locked. Mods don’t post

[Scotty]

End of Day 5

The man heaved the refrigerator close to two feet out of its nook, and found the plastic coating on the floor splintering beneath the movement. As if he had done it before, he maneuvered the errant leg as an improvised writing utensil. This part took a while, but he knew that the overall picture was only as complete as the sun of its details. Moaning erupted from the dining room. He sighed inwardly as he completed his ministrations and gathered a sizable handful of plastic shavings from the floor. Whistling, he opened a can of tomato sauce and brushed the contents of his fist into the sauce. The water from the spaghetti he was cooking had started to boil over, so he moved to turn off the burner. Then, not to splash the sauce, he poured it into the freshly made bowl of spaghetti. With a chef’s kiss, he picked up the dish to deliver to its intended patron.

As the man entered the dining room, Bob Harmon moaned louder behind his gag. Bound by his ankles and wrists, he dreaded being force-fed spaghetti, even if it was his childhood favorite. That “favorite” was quickly losing its luster after the 7th bowl, however.
The man was smiling as he lowered the plate in front of Bob.
“Make sure you eat it all, piggy,” he mocked.
The man removed the duct tape over Bob’s mouth and pulled the stuffed rag out of his mouth.
“Look, I can’t eat any more. I swear!” sputtered Bob.
The man tsk’d. “You can. You always can.”
He pointed to the plate. “We’ll revisit once you’re properly satiated.”
Bob shook his head. “I can’t! I…I’m too full!”
The man growled reproachfully. “You. Can.” Emphasizing the ‘can’, he shoved Bob’s face into the plate. “Piggy found his trough. Piggy loves his trough. You’ll be here as long as it takes you to finish it all.”
Bob was crying now, his sobs coming in waves, spittle and tomato sauce cascading down his multiple chins in between choking on the suffocating meal; as he slurped up pint after pint of sauce and noodles, he tried his damnedest to hold down that awful feeling in his gut.

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The first thing they noticed was the smell. Like a dumpster of used baby diapers and vomit in the sun. Mills especially liked that description when the attending officer allowed him to offer it as the group was brought into the flat of Bob Harmon. Autumn couldn’t help but notice the stockpiling of cheap, off-brand tomato sauce, spam and soups. She followed a small battalion of cockroaches with her flashlight into the next room, and there was the source of the smell: Bob Harmon. He had to have been 400 pounds, and must have been sitting on 3 days of excrement, at least.
Mills decided against covering his nose, in what Autumn would consider ‘acting tough’, but she wasn’t abashed from acknowledging something foul when she saw it.
“Detectives?” inquired an officer in the kitchen.
Autumn followed the voice as Mills picked up the dead man’s head by the hair, then released him with a resounding plop in the plate of spaghetti.

The officer motioned to the floor behind the refrigerator. Moving it aside, Mills could read scratched markings resembling “GLUTTONY” and a scribbled note reading “Long is the way and hard, that out of hell leads to light”.
“This John Doe thought himself a poet,” Autumn said.
“I got a poem for the sick bastard,” Mills said, slightly retching, “You’re getting back everything you’ve dished out, ten times over, mark my words.” He paused, waiting for a response.
Autumn shook her head with mock disbelief.
Mills shrugged, as if offended. “What? It was a haiku or something.”

He noticed a shape shift in the window, out on the fire escape. Without thinking, he drew his gun and yelled, “Hey! Hey!”
The figure disappeared and Mills started firing in that direction. The glass shattered and without further consternation, launched himself through the small window onto the fire escape.

Autumn watched as David Mills did what she assumed he did best- or worst in this moment: pursuing a suspect with wild abandon.
When she peered out onto the fire escape, she heard Mills fire more shots beneath them, with a suspect already near the ground below them. Was Mills looking to jump? Mills was no gymnast, but that didn’t mean Mills didn’t know that. So Autumn took it upon herself to remind him.

“You’re not a gymnast,” she snarked.
Mills, who had climbed onto the outside of the fire escape, paid her no mind. In a brief and seemingly meticulous calculation, Mills readied and jumped out to catch the bottom of awning to the left of the fire escape, miraculously catching the fringe of the awning, hanging about 3 stories above the ground now.

Still grasping the awning, Mills smiled, “You were saying?”
Autumn scrunched her mouth. “I stand by it. You’re still not a gymnast.”

Mills flashed a white smile and began monkey climbing up the awning a la King Kong. Once at the top, he even beat his chest in an act of triumph.
Autumn checked her watch. “And it has now been 1 minute and 17 seconds wasted when we could be scoping it out from a distance or calling this in.”

Mills dropped his act and chided, “I’m a man of action, partner. You gotta get used to that!” And that’s when the awning Mills had climbed ripped.

She saw the man falling, falling, and landing with a mortifying crack and thud.

She stood in shock, watching her partner on the street, convulse and seize, his neck most likely broken. But he was flashing his teeth in some form of smile as if to say everything was okay.
Autumn cursed loudly, and radioed in that her partner was down.

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With her partner still in critical condition and en route to the hospital from his fall, Autumn knew the case wasn’t going to solve itself, and time was not on her side. It felt like every person involved with this case was meeting their demise, and she although wasn’t the superstitious type, she didn’t want to wait around until it was her town.
When Autumn arrived back at the police station, she had to squeeze through a crowd of press and officers, all of them stunned onlookers. Startled, Autumn moved faster into the station to get a closer glimpse of the object of fascination. The interim police chief, only a few days into his new position, met the detective outside the interrogation room. He was pale as a sheet. “He refused to talk to anyone but you.”

Autumn felt a chill. “Who?” Autumn inquired, even though she knew the answer. Her captain shoved open the door, revealing a smallish, nondescript man in the chair. He looked up and without expression, drolled “Detective! Come in,” as inviting someone into his very house. Autumn glanced back at the gathering police officers, who were all solemn and expectant. She steeled herself, then entered and closed the door.

Walking to the chair opposite the man, she began, “You turned yourself in?”
As if not hearing the question, the man continued. “Your partner almost made me wish I wasn’t so nosy. Though I do wish I weren’t so nosy. Human nature is the true bastion of transparency to see this world for the hell it truly is. How is…Detective Mills, was it?”

Attempting to gain control of the interrogation again, Autumn pressed, “Why did you want to talk to me?”

For the first time, the man smirked slightly, then coughed as if breathing in water. After he was settled, he still had trouble talking. “Unfortunate side effect. All the rest were attempting to stop the wheel from turning. But the wheel has turned, detective. For example, there is a man- or what used to be a man- decaying in a room at this very moment. Farnsworth Condomeniums, unit 7. It is nearly done, presumably.” Autumn looked out at the two way mirror as if to give direction, then leaned in.
“But why did you do it?”

“I only showed the world human nature. Those people embodied the extreme nature of all seven sins, and they weren’t hard to find. They’re everywhere. Which one…” he stopped, and keeled over, sputtering. After a minute of coughing, he picked himself back up gingerly to sit in the chair upright. “Which…which one are you?” Then he collapsed onto the ground, his hands chained to the table by the wrist, so he was splayed awkwardly with his hands raised above his head.

Autumn rushed around as the door opened and more officers came barreling in.

She noticed the blood growing larger through the man’s shirt in his chest. How did no one see this before?
But Autumn knew the puzzle wasn’t over. Logic said that John Doe had another murder to be discovered: Envy.

The man’s eyes were closed, but he was still conscious. Autumn spoke assertively, “where is the 7th murder? Where is Envy?”

John Doe’s eyes shot open, and he garbled slowly. “Detective Mills helped me along back there with his gun. I’ve always been envious of you people living in blissful ignorance. I’ve…always been…”

The rest was nonsensical babbling whilst choking on blood. It never was as peaceful as shown on television, death by internal bleeding. But Autumn knew that she had bared witness to a series of murders that she- and the world- would not soon forget.

@Matahari has been eliminated. She was

Spoiler: show

You are Gluttony, one of the Seven Deadly Sins.



You are self aligned. Your current win condition is to be the last man standing. Alternatively, if your personal vote is worth at least 4, your alignment will change:
-If your Dummies have never been killed, you will become town-aligned.
-If any of your Dummies have ever been killed, you will become mafia-aligned, gaining BTSC with all other members a full phase after becoming mafia.

You represent over-indulgence and over-consumption of food, drink or wealth items

If you vote for Temperance, your vote will be worth +1.

Your vote is normally worth 0.
As a night action, target a player. They will be told that “it would be wise to post a lot” the next day phase. 
-If your target posts at least 70 times or else in top 3 of posters that phase, you will gain control of a dummy account the following day that steals the vote of the player the dummy votes for.
-If your target doesn’t follow the instructions, you will steal their vote that day, making your vote worth as much as theirs was.

When a Dummy votes for another player, ???

If any of your dummies are ever lynched, ???

Your active Dummies must post at least once a day, or you lose them.
???

With Matahari dead, Dubz changes alignment to Town. In the night, falcon45ca would die from his wounds, and Thunal carried out the kill. This cannot be blocked.

Therefore, so as not to drag this out unnecessarily another phase, Mafia reach parity with town and WIN!

Congratulations to the mafia team of @S~V~S, @Thunal33, @pyxxy and @Dennis

Spoiler: show

@DaughterOfOmega
@DrWilgy
@Dubz
@Epignosis
@falcon45ca
@jackofhearts2005
@Kate
@Macdougall
@Matahari
@Michelle
@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
@Porscha
@RondoDimBuckle
@Roxy
@Seanzie
@S~V~S
@Thunal33
@tutuu
@Zenon

[Dennis]

I totally worked hard for this win and deserve it

[DrWilgy]

AAAAAGH I GOT THERE BUT TOO LATE

[Kate]

CONGRATULATIONS! THAT WAS SO EXCITING TO WATCH!!!

[Tangrowth]

holy shit