Don't Starve Mafia [ENDGAME]

[Ricochet]

@Zenon has been posting without having read her role pm just clarifying and remembering for myself too to not read into what shes said so far as ai

Hm? How do you figure she hasnt?

[tutuu]

@Zenon has been posting without having read her role pm just clarifying and remembering for myself too to not read into what shes said so far as ai

Hm? How do you figure she hasnt?

U get ur role pm by joining epi's discord server. Then u wait for him to assign u to ur channel. Zenon started posting itt 1 min after joining the server. She isnt assigned to her channel yet i see her name being white and not red, she doesnt have the role "Character" like others yet. Epi is asleep. This is similar to how Martin caught Lime posting without having read his role pm

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

@Zenon has been posting without having read her role pm just clarifying and remembering for myself too to not read into what shes said so far as ai

I'm like 97.8% sure that talking about this breaks some kind of OGI rule

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

[Ricochet]

Did you read it now? Who are your wolfmates?

[tutuu]

@Zenon has been posting without having read her role pm just clarifying and remembering for myself too to not read into what shes said so far as ai

I'm like 97.8% sure that talking about this breaks some kind of OGI rule

im 100% sure talking about it can't be any worse than you actually doing it

[tutuu]

I AM TOWN!





We can't stop here...this is bat country

falcon also posted this without having read his alignment

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Actually doing what? Playing the game lol?

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Wtf even

[motobot]

[VOTE: turkey leg] aubergine

[Ricochet]

Actually doing what? Playing the game lol?

How can we read you if you play without actual knowledge of your alignment?

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

I'm town. Glad we got that out of the way. Now play the fucking game and stop being weird about me for choosing to play it

[RondoDimBuckle]

Im trying to remember what i townread rondo for and i forgot

Lol

[RondoDimBuckle]

@Zenon has been posting without having read her role pm just clarifying and remembering for myself too to not read into what shes said so far as ai

Hm? How do you figure she hasnt?

U get ur role pm by joining epi's discord server. Then u wait for him to assign u to ur channel. Zenon started posting itt 1 min after joining the server. She isnt assigned to her channel yet i see her name being white and not red, she doesnt have the role "Character" like others yet. Epi is asleep. This is similar to how Martin caught Lime posting without having read his role pm

Not a defense of neon just an fyi if you have been paying attention I was posting without knowing my role pm at the start because I had no clue there was a discord till tutuu mentioned it

[RondoDimBuckle]

@Zenon has been posting without having read her role pm just clarifying and remembering for myself too to not read into what shes said so far as ai

I'm like 97.8% sure that talking about this breaks some kind of OGI rule

im 100% sure talking about it can't be any worse than you actually doing it

Tbf I think posting without knowing your role pm is equally against the spirit of the game

[Ricochet]

I'm town. Glad we got that out of the way. Now play the fucking game and stop being weird about me for choosing to play it

I need neither expletives nor accusations thrown at me for pointing that you played blindfolded mafia for half a day and it's void of any proper mafia reading, thanks.

[RondoDimBuckle]

I'm town. Glad we got that out of the way. Now play the fucking game and stop being weird about me for choosing to play it

I need neither expletives nor accusations thrown at me for pointing that you played blindfolded mafia for half a day and it's void of any proper mafia reading, thanks.

I agree with the non pointy parts of this statement and also want to say to save on postage

I had assumed I was vt because no role pm and now I have a role pm so any change in behaviour before and after feel free to read into at your own peril

[JaggedJimmyJay]

It's probably best if we just refrain from discussion relating to the discord hub in general.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Some impressions:

I think the dialogue surrounding tutuu is probably the game's most chewable to this point. Regarding tutuu herself: I place greater priority on her belief in her approach than the perceived logic of that approach. The mechanics of this game already offer complexity, and folks are bound to interpret them differently (i.e., how they work, and how they reflect on people). If tutuu is just trying to find a starting point from which to build a theory of the game, then that's a good thing -- and that has been my impression.

I also think S~V~S and Ricochet have been reasonable in expressing doubts about the same thing. I don't sense opportunism in their handling of tutuu, and for all I know they could be right. Regardless, once again it is the belief in one's own viewpoints that matters.

[DrWilgy]

gm.

[VOTE: Food] aubergine

[VOTE: JJJ] aubergine

That is all. Good day.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Page two and the mech talk is fine, I suppose. Easy pocket material, tho, especially with the prevalent "ooh tutuu is town for mechtalking this much" sentiment.

Tutuu still bit wishwashy or just plain derpy now with the whole "town be swag and not pick food" but then "oh wait getting increasingly hungry will lose game for town" progression.

Ping on Rondo asking to be grouped with the mechtalkers. For what? Or what kind of cred?

I don't think the game will be faultily designed (especially with this being an Epig game) as to reach a mechanical loss i.e. fX town being starved or mafia hogging all the protections each time.

I'm not too fond of this post for its structure. Could be excessively designed to appear contributive. The suspicion on Rondo and the reaction OMGUS is interesting if it goes further, otherwise I could see them both doing some early distancing with this.

This seems a bit cooked to me. Orange just strikes me as an odd perspective given the Rico post being addressed, and red made my left eyeball do that thing it would normally do if I were sitting in a restaurant and heard some guy nearby on a date start talking about how women really are unprompted

[JaggedJimmyJay]

gm.

[VOTE: Food] aubergine

[VOTE: JJJ] aubergine

That is all. Good day.

Hi Wilgy! Why!

[DrWilgy]

gm.

[VOTE: Food] aubergine

[VOTE: JJJ] aubergine

That is all. Good day.

Hi Wilgy! Why!

Because you are food and I was told to vote food.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

tutuu
martinwp69
jay
scotty

svs
rico
rondo

My initial impressions are quite similar, albeit for different reasons. I don't quite have a clear impression of Rondo yet, and I don't think I'd "blue" Scotty, but otherwise right on.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

gm.

[VOTE: Food] aubergine

[VOTE: JJJ] aubergine

That is all. Good day.

Hi Wilgy! Why!

Because you are food and I was told to vote food.

Can I safely expect to be thoroughly licked?

[DrWilgy]

gm.

[VOTE: Food] aubergine

[VOTE: JJJ] aubergine

That is all. Good day.

Hi Wilgy! Why!

Because you are food and I was told to vote food.

Can I safely expect to be thoroughly licked?

Only if you are tasty food.

[falcon45ca]

I AM TOWN!





We can't stop here...this is bat country

falcon also posted this without having read his alignment

That is incorrect.




I'm always town

[falcon45ca]

JJJ is town

[JaggedJimmyJay]

[VOTE: vivax] aubergine

[JaggedJimmyJay]

If I were mafia here I'd rush the weapons and tools. There's no drawbacks and having to beat players into their own demise with a carrot or a turkey leg is a possible but unlikely future. Surely, they don't want villagers with light.

Ergo, why is this a post:

[VOTE: Pick] aubergine

enjoy the townread

Or this one.

[VOTE: rabbit] aubergine pls & thank yew

Porscha picking the only meat on the menu? HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM :think:

Is this a mafia whoopsie? Over-the-toppish and then not quite accurate. Different purpose.

Since I don't want to starve, I'll take this one.

[VOTE: Blue Mushroom] aubergine

This post pings me too. It seems to convert debatable mechanical viewpoints into gotchas.

[Scotty]

View and vote even

[Ricochet]

Vivax has three posts rn, all with certain reads (yay on paper).

Post #1 is a bit of a mix(ed bag) of mechtalk, AI claim and hopping on some pings.
The claim that he would steal the protections as wolf strikes as rushed in rationale, i.e. omitting the downside of gaining hunger votes in the process (he stated there would be no "drawbacks" in fact). Is Vivax the type of wolfplayer who would, indeed, steal town benefits and dare to play with vote weights on? Who knows. Anyway, this statement only leads to WIFOM, if judged seriously. "I would" / "I would never". Mkay.
The ping on tutuu is not much at all. (At worst it was probably a total skim of tutuu's other posts)
The ping on Rondo is without much (in-game) sense to what was already a Rondo statement without much (in-game) sense.

Post #2 was on me and I found it funny. I mean, as far as what I've said, I thought I was pretty reasoned and surveyed different aspects. But the funny side of his angle - probably hasn't played with me (at all? not much?) - is that I am indeed a monument of excess in verbiage and reasoning.

Post #3 was on Scotty and I kind of vibe of it. Scotty's sus is one thing, but his phrasing that SVS would be overly cautious in her mechtalk feels a bit ech. It doesn't feel unreasonable of Vivax to see it this way or point it out.

In relation to JJJ's take, I don't (or didn't) feel as pinged by these posts. #1 is probably the worst. The other two give the vibe of invested play and reading into undertext.

[Scotty]

Define ”again”.

You and scotty have tried to soft scum me this game. I see some team work

makes the dreamworld

Don’t get too hungry, mr spear. K?

[Scotty]

Good morning everybody
I think for now on I have to stay up till middle of the night, because all I can choose is Food and Food.
[VOTE: green mushroom]

Welcome to the game!

Pretty suspicious choosing food.

[Scotty]

If I were mafia here I'd rush the weapons and tools. There's no drawbacks and having to beat players into their own demise with a carrot or a turkey leg is a possible but unlikely future. Surely, they don't want villagers with light.

Ergo, why is this a post:

[VOTE: Pick] aubergine

enjoy the townread

Or this one.

[VOTE: rabbit] aubergine pls & thank yew

Porscha picking the only meat on the menu? HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM :think:

Is this a mafia whoopsie? Over-the-toppish and then not quite accurate. Different purpose.

Since I don't want to starve, I'll take this one.

[VOTE: Blue Mushroom] aubergine

Meh. I don’t find it Wilgy, just advantageous in any alignment. More that I’d find wolves standbackish to appear like they’re considering all angles. Which is why I’m reading rondo as town. Because he just went for that shiny weapon

[Scotty]

Page two and the mech talk is fine, I suppose. Easy pocket material, tho, especially with the prevalent "ooh tutuu is town for mechtalking this much" sentiment.

Tutuu still bit wishwashy or just plain derpy now with the whole "town be swag and not pick food" but then "oh wait getting increasingly hungry will lose game for town" progression.

Ping on Rondo asking to be grouped with the mechtalkers. For what? Or what kind of cred?

I don't think the game will be faultily designed (especially with this being an Epig game) as to reach a mechanical loss i.e. fX town being starved or mafia hogging all the protections each time.

I'm not too fond of this post for its structure. Could be excessively designed to appear contributive. The suspicion on Rondo and the reaction OMGUS is interesting if it goes further, otherwise I could see them both doing some early distancing with this.

already don’t think Vivax/Rico are w/w. I don’t think this post comes from a partner engaging their partner

[Scotty]

Scotty's vote on SVS is

U N D E R W H E L M I N G

in my opinion

Were you expecting something

O V E R W H E L M I N G?

[VOTE: BETTER INGREDIENTS BETTER PIZZA PAPA JOHNS] aubergine

[Scotty]

I think of the people that have posted thus far, SVS looks the least towny to me. Feels like she’s being careful and can’t quite get her feet wet

I’ve spent my time in thread poking the high poster and questioning their pet theory and motivations.

You know those wrinkles you get on your feet when you’ve been in the water too long?

My feet have them. Pretty wet dude.

Shame.

Should’ve gotten yourself the umbrella in time

[Scotty]

I think of the people that have posted thus far, SVS looks the least towny to me. Feels like she’s being careful and can’t quite get her feet wet

I’ve spent my time in thread poking the high poster and questioning their pet theory and motivations.

You know those wrinkles you get on your feet when you’ve been in the water too long?

My feet have them. Pretty wet dude.

[Scotty]

@@tutuu
Why did you vote on me? I literally made 2 posts what supect you about that. Didn't really start here and already got a vote??

I’m surprised you chose mushroom over the meat tbh

What’s your background with mafia, meatbaby?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

@Scotty what's your view of Vivax in isolation?

[Scotty]

Scotty's vote on SVS is

U N D E R W H E L M I N G

in my opinion

Join the club.

At this point imma [VOTE: Tutuu] aubergine

She is giving me overwhelming steering vibes, and the fact that she’s doing it in a way that draws clear lines based on an arbitrary criteria, I don’t see the town in that ad of right now.

Well-reasoned and I can’t fault you for this vote.

Well-reasoned SVS can be so tricksy.

SVS, what is your read of me? Do you think I am being disingenuous?

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

I'm town. Glad we got that out of the way. Now play the fucking game and stop being weird about me for choosing to play it

I need neither expletives nor accusations thrown at me for pointing that you played blindfolded mafia for half a day and it's void of any proper mafia reading, thanks.

Oh what a joke. I was 4 pages behind I'm not gonna sit with my hands tied because I didn't get a ping or notification until 4 pages into this game.

A wolf will fake towniness. A town will be towny. I didn't play against the spirit of the fucking game by playing the fucking game. This is such a dumb take and honestly insulting.

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

My WiM is significantly dead... so that's cool.

[Scotty]

I'm surprised nobody has pushed me for only 11 posting

Actually, I’m more scum leaning you now because you haven’t posted any gifs in your first page of posts or shown that solving snark I come to expect from town Zenon

Meta is fluid tho, so it’s a base level read

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

I'm surprised nobody has pushed me for only 11 posting

Actually, I’m more scum leaning you now because you haven’t posted any gifs in your first page of posts or shown that solving snark I come to expect from town Zenon

Meta is fluid tho, so it’s a base level read

Amusingly... not gif posting is one of my scum tells

[Scotty]

Page two and the mech talk is fine, I suppose. Easy pocket material, tho, especially with the prevalent "ooh tutuu is town for mechtalking this much" sentiment.

Tutuu still bit wishwashy or just plain derpy now with the whole "town be swag and not pick food" but then "oh wait getting increasingly hungry will lose game for town" progression.

Ping on Rondo asking to be grouped with the mechtalkers. For what? Or what kind of cred?

I don't think the game will be faultily designed (especially with this being an Epig game) as to reach a mechanical loss i.e. fX town being starved or mafia hogging all the protections each time.

I don't think Tutuu was towny for the mech talk alone. Normally I'm one of the many people who hates mech talk. But I felt like the way Tutuu went with it was at least done in a positive way to use to at least try to clear people using it.

Yeah, but it could be used both ways, and when I pointed it out to her, she was like, "I didn't think of that" and kept doing it. Waaah. I don't like it.

@@tutuu
Why did you vote on me? I literally made 2 posts what supect you about that. Didn't really start here and already got a vote??

This ^^

Also, allowing someone new to us to get their feet wet (to use Scottys metaphor) before yeeting them is an old school courtesy I would like to see more of, although I won't fault others for not following it.

actually svs seems more scummy to me here if looked thru a "traditional" lens whereas usually she has always seemed townie to me looked thru the same lens when shes mafia. so sure she can be town. why not

i disagree with her on a lot of the mech analysis but her insistence on arguing seems townie

why not what the hell. take the townread

I’m arguing because I don’t like how you set your idea up as THE idea, if you get my drift. Like insisting on saving something you’re positioning as a civ item for Sean before he even posted. I’m only on page three so not sure if he posted yet as of now.

How do you know he’s even town? Just because he gets NK early a lot doesn't mean he randed town here.

And townreading people based on a pretty flawed theory bugs me to bits.

I didnt insist on people listening to me. Im just playing dude. Im just sharing my reads.

As i said if sean was mafia i wanted to weaken him by making him pick the bad non-food items. Theyre all worse than food for everyone.

You are entitled to your own wrong opinion that my evaluation/reads is flawed.

I would disagree in that I feel that you are trying (rather hard, imo) to steer the thread and have your opinion be the prevailing one.

So for now my vote stays where it is. It could also go to Scotty, he fell right onto it without any critical thinking whatsoever, but I am not a "No U' fan; if I sus two people for the same thing, I'll go with the one who isn't the OMGUS vote.

Linki and a second "No Reason Whatsoever" vote for Meatbaby (I just can't with the whole name lol, sorry Meatbaby). So so sus.

Off to work, bbl.

Ah ok you addressed all of what I just previously said RE omgusing and your suspicion of me.

I’ll think about it. Don’t town read you, but I don’t think you’re a slam dunk by any means

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

But also amusingly I wouldn't have even known if I was scum at that point since that's public knowledge that people were just allowed to bring up and talk about in thread which frankly shouldn't have happened and is disgusting I will now use it.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

But also amusingly I wouldn't have even known if I was scum at that point since that's public knowledge that people were just allowed to bring up and talk about in thread which frankly shouldn't have happened and is disgusting I will now use it.

I can understand your frustration. It's an unfortunate thing in an unusual situation. Remember we have mods though! I believe in Zenon to be a force for Good Vibes.

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

I will behave now. Sorry for lashing out.

I do not like being accused of playing against the spirit of the game that genuinely hurts me because of some old mafia wounds.