Don't Starve Mafia [ENDGAME]

[Porscha]

rico town he's like a video game character he dont speak much he just sits there looks pretty. good enough for me. rico town. trust me

+1

Weren't you arguing with me about Ricos general towniness though?

not that i recall

I suppose I misunderstood our whole discussion about my read on him than

Huh

wasn't it about whether his restriction was mandatory or not? it wasn't about me questioning his alignment by arguing it wasn't necessarily mandatory - I was only arguing that I hadn't assumed it was mandatory, I sorta thought it was weird you had jumped to that conclusion, but at this point it probably doesnt matter and doesnt mean anything about my read on you and it seems like he definitely can't communicate any differently than what he has been doing

[MartinGG99]

lime coke - i wanna trust my townreads jay on martin on townreading him. im personally not townreading lime. then porscha had concerns with him too. so lime might be a bit sussy wussy. ive gotta decide which townread do i trust here

While I've been working on my post or whatever I've been shakier on Lime Coke. From my re-eval on him this post (link) it seems a bit overdramatic because its only been like 6 hours tops into the game and yet after Lime got their rand information. His d2 entry seemed to suggest having a poe of Martin/Vivax/Rico, and said that Vivax dying or whatever didn't change his process. Soon after he mentioned going full-steam on Rico because he had nowhere else to go. Didn't really feel like solving there, and the poe of me/vivax seemed suspect to me because it implies something like seeing one wolf between us before eod. It rubbed me the wrong way.

Zenon however in the midst of our server-hundred-post discussion of offense and feeling noted that Lime had a preety decent post where he backed off on a rico vote because of some other people's reads. I've not deep-dived into it because it was made after my re-eval of Lime Coke but at face-value it was towny to me imo.

So I'm like null, leaning ever so slightly scum. There's a mixed bag about him (yes I stole the term from one of JJJ's isos).

[Porscha]

vivax's girlfriend should be town. i hope i dont gotta say it. but we all townreading her? anyone doubting her being town?

who?

die_meatbaby

why is she town? (literally just didnt see any posts of hers)

[tutuu]

ara ara

belzy just ... uh. they just obv. like. they're just being real. u know what i mean? they pure. they real

porscha claimed god read town by sean and same as above

zenon same as above (the first one)

most people skill level: wet fart
sean skill level: solid

you can ask others they can back me up that sean is good

[Ricochet]

everyone else is just being towny. we know someone has to be scum

keep in mind we're looking at 3 to 4 wolves

[tutuu]

vivax's girlfriend should be town. i hope i dont gotta say it. but we all townreading her? anyone doubting her being town?

who?

die_meatbaby

why is she town? (literally just didnt see any posts of hers)

i voted her for no reason at the start of day 1 and she got annoyed and later came back and flamed the fuck out of me

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

motobot

Inspect

I don't think I can bring myself to vote moto moto until later in the game because I hate killing lhf early

[tutuu]

lime coke - i wanna trust my townreads jay on martin on townreading him. im personally not townreading lime. then porscha had concerns with him too. so lime might be a bit sussy wussy. ive gotta decide which townread do i trust here

While I've been working on my post or whatever I've been shakier on Lime Coke. From my re-eval on him this post (link) it seems a bit overdramatic because its only been like 6 hours tops into the game and yet after Lime got their rand information. His d2 entry seemed to suggest having a poe of Martin/Vivax/Rico, and said that Vivax dying or whatever didn't change his process. Soon after he mentioned going full-steam on Rico because he had nowhere else to go. Didn't really feel like solving there, and the poe of me/vivax seemed suspect to me because it implies something like seeing one wolf between us before eod. It rubbed me the wrong way.

Zenon however in the midst of our server-hundred-post discussion of offense and feeling noted that Lime had a preety decent post where he backed off on a rico vote because of some other people's reads. I've not deep-dived into it because it was made after my re-eval of Lime Coke but at face-value it was towny to me imo.

So I'm like null, leaning ever so slightly scum. There's a mixed bag about him (yes I stole the term from one of JJJ's isos).

thank u king

[MartinGG99]

lime coke - i wanna trust my townreads jay on martin on townreading him. im personally not townreading lime. then porscha had concerns with him too. so lime might be a bit sussy wussy. ive gotta decide which townread do i trust here

While I've been working on my post or whatever I've been shakier on Lime Coke. From my re-eval on him this post (link) it seems a bit overdramatic because its only been like 6 hours tops into the game and yet after Lime got their rand information. His d2 entry seemed to suggest having a poe of Martin/Vivax/Rico, and said that Vivax dying or whatever didn't change his process. Soon after he mentioned going full-steam on Rico because he had nowhere else to go. Didn't really feel like solving there, and the poe of me/vivax seemed suspect to me because it implies something like seeing one wolf between us before eod. It rubbed me the wrong way.

Zenon however in the midst of our server-hundred-post discussion of offense and feeling noted that Lime had a preety decent post where he backed off on a rico vote because of some other people's reads. I've not deep-dived into it because it was made after my re-eval of Lime Coke but at face-value it was towny to me imo.

So I'm like null, leaning ever so slightly scum. There's a mixed bag about him (yes I stole the term from one of JJJ's isos).

I probably should've just posted my actual re-eval. Its worded better but similar length and has more links. So here it is.

Lime Coke
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This post (link) seems a bit overdramatic as its really only like, what, six hours into day 1? I sorta understand it since it is a fair amount of posts since then but also, like, its not uncommon fmpov for reads to not be all that great early-game simply because it is early-game. This is also after the time where Lime Coke got their role.

After that I'm not really seeing any new thoughts pop up than what I've had before. Good tone at times, such as this post (link), which is less dramatic and seems more up-front and admitting. Later on, this (link) is a bad look. Why would JJJ be expecting a non-read? The question sorta obviously implies asking for a read on it and Lime Coke goes "oh I understand what he said, I guess". And in the post after he continues talking about it for almost a complete sentence but then completely deflects to asking a question of JJJ.

His entrance on d2 doesn't make a whole lot of sense now that I've ISO'ed it. Don't these two posts (link and link) contradict each other a bit? Like in one post he seems to say nothing has really changed for him except a PoE member died and in the other post he says go full-steam-ahead on Rico as he has no other place to go. Only way I don't see this as semi-contradictory is if his POE was exactly the size of Vivax/Martin/Rico. Which is kinda suspect fmpov since some level of collective suspicion or mis-choppability landed on all three of those slots, and saying me/vivax are in a PoE kinda implies believing a wolf between the two before Vivax turned up dead. Which is just silly.

Overall I find Lime Coke to be a fair bit more suspicious than I originally thought.

Edit: Annnnd as I was making this post I think I have to agree with Zenon that this (link) was a good post by Lime Coke. I have to deep-dive into that later. Lime Coke feels more like a mixed bag again. But still a bit suspect.

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[Porscha]

lime coke - i wanna trust my townreads jay on martin on townreading him. im personally not townreading lime. then porscha had concerns with him too. so lime might be a bit sussy wussy. ive gotta decide which townread do i trust here

While I've been working on my post or whatever I've been shakier on Lime Coke. From my re-eval on him this post (link) it seems a bit overdramatic because its only been like 6 hours tops into the game and yet after Lime got their rand information. His d2 entry seemed to suggest having a poe of Martin/Vivax/Rico, and said that Vivax dying or whatever didn't change his process. Soon after he mentioned going full-steam on Rico because he had nowhere else to go. Didn't really feel like solving there, and the poe of me/vivax seemed suspect to me because it implies something like seeing one wolf between us before eod. It rubbed me the wrong way.

Zenon however in the midst of our server-hundred-post discussion of offense and feeling noted that Lime had a preety decent post where he backed off on a rico vote because of some other people's reads. I've not deep-dived into it because it was made after my re-eval of Lime Coke but at face-value it was towny to me imo.

So I'm like null, leaning ever so slightly scum. There's a mixed bag about him (yes I stole the term from one of JJJ's isos).

yeah him backing off was probably the towniest thing i've seen him do all game tbh, but he was also trying to use the defense that he doesnt bus as a reason to argue against me saying I think he is wolf and rico is town, and what if rico flipped wolf, it shuts down my attempt at solving him since he doesnt bus, lol etc. like yeah if rico flipped wolf then maybe lime coke isnt wolf, but he's already overly conscious about whether I would re-evaluate him or not, but of course I would. so I'm really still not sold on lime coke being town

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

rico town he's like a video game character he dont speak much he just sits there looks pretty. good enough for me. rico town. trust me

+1

Weren't you arguing with me about Ricos general towniness though?

not that i recall

I suppose I misunderstood our whole discussion about my read on him than

Huh

wasn't it about whether his restriction was mandatory or not? it wasn't about me questioning his alignment by arguing it wasn't necessarily mandatory - I was only arguing that I hadn't assumed it was mandatory, I sorta thought it was weird you had jumped to that conclusion, but at this point it probably doesnt matter and doesnt mean anything about my read on you and it seems like he definitely can't communicate any differently than what he has been doing

Yeah I misunderstood because I thought it was a mixture of that and that you disagreed in general

[Belzy]

[VOTE: creature] aubergine

[tutuu]

[VOTE: creature] aubergine

[Porscha]

[VOTE: creature] aubergine

for ?

[Porscha]

lol yeah good gif tutuu

[Belzy]

[VOTE: creature] aubergine

for ?

Glory?

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

lime coke - i wanna trust my townreads jay on martin on townreading him. im personally not townreading lime. then porscha had concerns with him too. so lime might be a bit sussy wussy. ive gotta decide which townread do i trust here

While I've been working on my post or whatever I've been shakier on Lime Coke. From my re-eval on him this post (link) it seems a bit overdramatic because its only been like 6 hours tops into the game and yet after Lime got their rand information. His d2 entry seemed to suggest having a poe of Martin/Vivax/Rico, and said that Vivax dying or whatever didn't change his process. Soon after he mentioned going full-steam on Rico because he had nowhere else to go. Didn't really feel like solving there, and the poe of me/vivax seemed suspect to me because it implies something like seeing one wolf between us before eod. It rubbed me the wrong way.

Zenon however in the midst of our server-hundred-post discussion of offense and feeling noted that Lime had a preety decent post where he backed off on a rico vote because of some other people's reads. I've not deep-dived into it because it was made after my re-eval of Lime Coke but at face-value it was towny to me imo.

So I'm like null, leaning ever so slightly scum. There's a mixed bag about him (yes I stole the term from one of JJJ's isos).

yeah him backing off was probably the towniest thing i've seen him do all game tbh, but he was also trying to use the defense that he doesnt bus as a reason to argue against me saying I think he is wolf and rico is town, and what if rico flipped wolf, it shuts down my attempt at solving him since he doesnt bus, lol etc. like yeah if rico flipped wolf then maybe lime coke isnt wolf, but he's already overly conscious about whether I would re-evaluate him or not, but of course I would. so I'm really still not sold on lime coke being town

I'm not gonna lawyer his rationale on not bussing I read it differently than how you are reading it but he should explain not me

I think the towniness for me on the back off was uh exemplified? (I dunno if that's the right word yay brain but we will go with it) by him using me as a springboard to reeval both Rico and Belzy since I'm his top town read.

[tutuu]

can anyone offer a team of 3-4 names?

its not my style too, i prefer towncoring, but i think porscha is right that applying pressure should be good. which means scumreads

motobot, wilgy, falcon is my immediate poe
and i have limecoke and jayjayjay as potentially spicy wolves, depending on how the games goes
LC could move down to immediate, i dunno. i need to read more

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

[VOTE: creature] aubergine

for ?

Glory?

I'll sheep I don't think Creature has been towny at all

Vote: Creature


Why did you pull off me?

[tutuu]

[VOTE: creature] aubergine

for ?

Glory?

HOLY SHIT THERE IS NO BIGGER CHAD THAN BELZY

[VOTE: Creature] aubergine

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

can anyone offer a team of 3-4 names?

its not my style too, i prefer towncoring, but i think porscha is right that applying pressure should be good. which means scumreads

motobot, wilgy, falcon is my immediate poe
and i have limecoke and jayjayjay as potentially spicy wolves, depending on how the games goes
LC could move down to immediate, i dunno. i need to read more

I can not because I refuse to do pairings it's too easy to make yourself look unaligned and thus ignore wolfy behavior in favor of this concept that they are not aligned with anyone

[Belzy]

I kinda have reasons for half the thread not to vote for. Creature is not on that list. I could vote for Wilg and moto too, I guess. Die meatball maybe too iirc.

[tutuu]

can anyone offer a team of 3-4 names?

its not my style too, i prefer towncoring, but i think porscha is right that applying pressure should be good. which means scumreads

motobot, wilgy, falcon is my immediate poe
and i have limecoke and jayjayjay as potentially spicy wolves, depending on how the games goes
LC could move down to immediate, i dunno. i need to read more

I can not because I refuse to do pairings it's too easy to make yourself look unaligned and thus ignore wolfy behavior in favor of this concept that they are not aligned with anyone

ok ignore the pairings part. im also not thinking of pairings. maybe i should have worded differently. can i get a list of 3 or 4 suspects. dont matter if they can make a team or not. independently sussy wussy

[Belzy]

[VOTE: creature] aubergine

for ?

Glory?

I'll sheep I don't think Creature has been towny at all

Vote: Creature


Why did you pull off me?

Giving my read on you a pause.

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

can anyone offer a team of 3-4 names?

its not my style too, i prefer towncoring, but i think porscha is right that applying pressure should be good. which means scumreads

motobot, wilgy, falcon is my immediate poe
and i have limecoke and jayjayjay as potentially spicy wolves, depending on how the games goes
LC could move down to immediate, i dunno. i need to read more

I can not because I refuse to do pairings it's too easy to make yourself look unaligned and thus ignore wolfy behavior in favor of this concept that they are not aligned with anyone

ok ignore the pairings part. im also not thinking of pairings. maybe i should have worded differently. can i get a list of 3 or 4 suspects. dont matter if they can make a team or not. independently sussy wussy

My suspect list is way too big...

I guess uh

Creature
JJJ

Who the hell is even in this game

Uh.

Uh.

Omgus.

Falcon

[tutuu]

rico is town

so creature voting him is a bad look imo

if creature is town and he was gunning for a town, and we're all town and we all gunned down town creature then ... we all suck and we deserve to lose. so might as well try and hope creature's wolf

[Belzy]

My last 5+ town games my reads have been terrible, so don't expect me to easily lock my reads. I need to find a way how to read this game again.

[tutuu]

i confbiased myself into sheeping belzy and thinking they're right and creature was scum all long. kill creature. kil lcreature

[Belzy]

Creature is relatively underwhelming, not a townlock, and if someone is right Creature does not like being a wolf this all could make nuff sense to me

[Belzy]

Usually my reads are better in FX when it is already too late. I am dead or scum pocketed the game.

[Belzy]

If and when I have the time and energy for it, I should ISO JJJ's ISOs to find out if it are townly ISOs or wolfy ISOs.

[Porscha]

I dont want to sr creature just for activity but he has not posted enough for me to read him otherwise so like

[Porscha]

If and when I have the time and energy for it, I should ISO JJJ's ISOs to find out if it are townly ISOs or wolfy ISOs.

How do you determine the difference

[Belzy]

I am starving. I have not eaten for 11 hours.

[tutuu]

@JaggedJimmyJay @Belzy @motobot @falcon45ca @DrWilgy @Creature dont forget to pick food or an item of your choice (the op may not be updated idk which ones of u still havent) - u can see the items to pick for d2 in the OP :P

[Porscha]

I feel like the only way to determine if an iso is wolfy or not is how charitable or agenda'd it feels but even then I've been bamboozled and it turned out the person who made the ISO was town and I just sr'd them cuz I didnt agree with their analysis

[Belzy]

If and when I have the time and energy for it, I should ISO JJJ's ISOs to find out if it are townly ISOs or wolfy ISOs.

How do you determine the difference

Intention: is wolf making a case on a town that looks good based on ISO but goes against gut and sense.

[Porscha]

Oh shit I didnt claim anything LMAO

[Ricochet]

can anyone offer a team of 3-4 names?

[Belzy]

@JaggedJimmyJay @Belzy @motobot @falcon45ca @DrWilgy @Creature dont forget to pick food or an item of your choice (the op may not be updated idk which ones of u still havent) - u can see the items to pick for d2 in the OP :P

I already voted bday cake.

[tutuu]

Oh shit I didnt claim anything LMAO

oh sorry i missed your name. kind of easy to miss you when you're so smol smol tiny squishie

[tutuu]

honestly i wonder if the people who forgot to pick an item are town

is this a dangerous read to make

basing it off of - wolves have discussed it more, they strategized, they have a team. townies are alone. 1 smol head smaller than 3-4. easier to be forgor

[Porscha]

[VOTE: flint] aubergine

[Porscha]

I am smol forgor

[tutuu]

falcon, motobot, porscha, creature - forgot to pick items

what if they're all town?

does scum creature forget about the items?

damn. im a bit lost here

[tutuu]

I am smol forgor

[tutuu]

[VOTE: lime coke] aubergine

this feels like the safest vote for me rn

its going along with most (or all) of my townreads. plus he didnt forget to pick an item. idk if this townread on those 4 ppl has merit

[tutuu]

@JaggedJimmyJay pls vote for a wolf

[tutuu]

actually how come u aint voted jay?

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

I am starving. I have not eaten for 11 hours.

Wtf eat