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tutuu
Martin
Zenon
Rondo
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Narrowly avoiding a bottom-page with a rainbow list is exquisite. We love those.
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Bringing back Seanzie's bottom-pageSeanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 5:34 pm It's worth noting that Lime is actually at 5 votes right now even though it doesn't look like it in the poll. Moto is a double-voter and Lime has 1 hunger vote from D1.
If things don't change before EoD, I'll probably move to Creature since that's a better flip than Lime IMO. I'd also support a Wilgy wagon.
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I'd vote Creature before either of the other two wagons. I'd prefer DrWilgy.
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I find it interesting that you mentioned the "commentary" thing, but didn't include the big late-D1 catchup post he did that was almost entirely commentary without real takes, which was followed up with scumreads that he didn't say anything about.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 5:18 pm Ricochet ISO
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This is some but not all of Rico's earliest content, and I have focused primarily on his initial reception of tutuu. Rico's critiques/suspicion carried some weight (orange), and this developed into a somewhat significant component of the Day 1 dialogue (and tutuu becoming a top wagon). This Rico material doesn't thrill me. tutuu made some assertions about mechanics and how they reflect on people that can obviously be debated, and I'd be more comfortable if that's what happened -- they were debated (instead of they were shaded as something agenda-driven). On that note, I think Rico did achieve that eventually in the green post by simply expressing his view of the mechanical miscellany. I tend to wish this was the focus.
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I highlight these posts in relative succession, because I think they're important in the broader discussion of Rico. He has been accused of commentary without stances more or less, and I haven't really seen him that way. I think can understand the perception for reasons I will highlight later in this review, but the above posts make a contrary argument. His read on Vivax is less a "stance" than a response to my own stance, but I think he provided meaningful nuance. Then he provides clear stances for both Scotty and tutuu. One may accuse Rico of "bad" stances perhaps, but not of "non"-stances, at least not in these moments.
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I think these are the posts that give an impression of "commentary". And that's an understandable impression; it's primarily what they are. On balance I don't tend to view that kind of thing as alignment-indicative (maybe it depends on the person). Also I think it should be noted that even in the large review post, each "comment" is followed by some kind of stance. So it's not as though Rico is just hanging around saying words without using those words.
It's in that sense that I think reducing his play to "commentary" isn't really a charitable take.
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Full-blown case on Scotty, and perhaps the most comprehensive single case in the game to this point. Clearly Scotty flipped town, so it didn't work out. Is the case itself "playing it genuine" as Rico described for Scotty? I think so? If I want to be pessimistic and find a mafia agenda here (beyond just "mischop Scotty", which, sure), I could see an effort to pocket S~V~S given her own suspicion of Scotty maybe. But then S~V~S was night killed, so it's difficult to make that theory coherent. At absolute level 1, it was a case against a civilian, so take that as far as you feel it should be taken.
I don't want to get deep into analyzing the content of Rico's Day 2 posts. I will instead just remark that I think he has made a decent effort to stay relevant and involved despite the limitation apparently imposed upon him. He could have taken a nap, but he didn't. So that's appreciated.
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I've tried to be as thorough as possible for this one and avoid confirmation bias. If I really want to squeeze, I can probably find a mafia case in here -- but I still don't feel it. At the very least, this provides a lot more clarity for the Rico-suspecters to engage with. I don't think he's the best vote today.
I do admit though that looking back at Rico's Scotty case, it does have a bit more depth to it than I thought.
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If you're referring to this post, I mentioned it with a link instead of a full quote. I think there were real takes in there, generally provided after the bullet point comments per player.Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 5:38 pm I find it interesting that you mentioned the "commentary" thing, but didn't include the big late-D1 catchup post he did that was almost entirely commentary without real takes, which was followed up with scumreads that he didn't say anything about.
I do admit though that looking back at Rico's Scotty case, it does have a bit more depth to it than I thought.
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Also tutuu becoming unsettled about me during my time away after our night chat and previous vibing is an extremely town progression. If she outlives me, I suggest y'all listen to her.
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Dope thanksSeanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 4:41 pmIt does take some time and research to find a exercise routine that works for you, but there are tons of youtube videos you can just turn on and follow pretty easily to get started. Depending on what you want, you can try searching for yoga, or HIIT videos or general cardio videos or more specific things like ab videos or bodyweight exercise videos. Many of them will be labeled as needing no equipment.Zenon wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 4:31 pmI have no clue how to do anything xDScotty wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 4:21 pmhi. Ghost here.Zenon wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 4:17 pmI'm sure I'd lose weight faster if I worked out but I can't afford a gym or anythingSeanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 3:12 pmI believe in you! Just keep up the work, and make sure you eat healthy and exercise rather than just trying to not eat.Zenon wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 3:00 pmYeah I do 16 or try to sometimes it's closer to 15 I'm down to 263 from 280
My goal weight for surgery is 240 but my personal goal is 180 I haven't been below 260 in a year I haven't been at 240 in like 4/5 years I haven't been below 200 in 7 years when I moved here 10 years ago I was 190
Bleh.
I was at 250 during the worst of covid and I've worked my way down to about 225. I've been stuck there for about a year now though. I'd like to get back to 200. I haven't lost any weight recently, but I did start working out a lot more a few months ago, and while my weight has stayed the same, I have done some body recomposition, which feels pretty good.
There are lots of body weight exercises and routines you can get into even if you don’t have a gym. Making sure you do some moving after each meal and working up a sweat when you can goes a lot way in supplement to good nutrition!
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He gives up when he experiences pressure as wolf. We all know he does, and he self-admitted this very game on day 1
Creature's posting D1 has been good, but he did nothing D2
3 of my towncored townreads are voting Creature with me rn. No wolves are voting Creature atm fmpov
Creature voting Wilgy makes me not want to vote wilgy. Motobot voting lime coke makes not want to vote lime coke
If Creature if town he's the easiest mischop to be pushing rn. Not Ricochet who's fighting back. Lime Coke is fighting back too. Creature isn't fighting back. But wolves aren't pushing him fmpov
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I don't think that is an accurate judgement of the post. Here, let's take a look:JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 5:41 pmIf you're referring to this post, I mentioned it with a link instead of a full quote. I think there were real takes in there, generally provided after the bullet point comments per player.Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 5:38 pm I find it interesting that you mentioned the "commentary" thing, but didn't include the big late-D1 catchup post he did that was almost entirely commentary without real takes, which was followed up with scumreads that he didn't say anything about.
I do admit though that looking back at Rico's Scotty case, it does have a bit more depth to it than I thought.
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@JaggedJimmyJay why didnt you pick wood or flint today?
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also rico just listing everything that happened isnt scummy for him. i havent played with him before, but i skimmed one game where he was town and he did the exact same. this isnt scummy for him, thats how he plays
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I think it's important to ensure town gets plenty of the food resources so that mafia cannot stockpile them for a huge endgame advantage, even if I don't survive that long. I even declined to tell falcon I already had the lasagna on purpose since he's POE.

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oh LOLJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 5:57 pmI think it's important to ensure town gets plenty of the food resources so that mafia cannot stockpile them for a huge endgame advantage, even if I don't survive that long. I even declined to tell falcon I already had the lasagna on purpose since he's POE.![]()
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If anyone cares about mech, this is probably the mafia role that covered Rico in web and gave him this posting restriction
https://dontstarve.fandom.com/wiki/Webber
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Before I reviewed Lime Coke I thought he seemed kinda floaty and existy, but he ended up looking fine when I got into the details.
Is there something else about him that is bugging folks?
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At a certain point we're splitting hairs, but I probably give more credit to those takes on Porscha and Zenon. Not everything has to clearly state "this is a town read" or "this is a mafia read" as long as it is a part of a larger progression.
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Lime Coke wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 7:28 pmI...guess I get the reasoning.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 7:23 pm @Lime Coke what do you think of Rico's case against Scotty?


Lime Coke wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 3:20 pmThree town flips.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 3:18 pm Why should I not be town reading Rico, and/or what is the process of events that suggests my read should change?

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 3:28 pm
My reasoning for voting Ricochet when it got later on Day 1, was because of this post.
Felt like it was scummy just because it was basically like what Seanzie said. Too much commentary on random things, not really applying reads on most of the slots in the game after the "analysis"?

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Thanks Rico. At the least the “you’re still town reading Rico” and “three dead town” moments are goofy.
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JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 6:19 pm Thanks Rico. At the least the “you’re still town reading Rico” and “three dead town” moments are goofy.

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Rico is probably something we can discuss further on the next day. I was writing and articulating more but it seems like finishing that would take awhile and it is EoD.
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You know what I'll go on Wilgy. Creature is apparently voting there and if Wilgy is a mafia flip I wanna know that instead of flipping Creature first.
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ok im out good luck friends
>>>>> if jay is alive on day 4 and there was no mech intervention, please heavily consider policy chopping him for the reason of him being alive. but obviously consider flips and daytalk and everything. but keep it in the back of your minds that him surviving night 3, if he does, is highly questionable. put him under scrutiny. make him squirm. be skeptical of him <<<<<
>>>>> if jay is alive on day 4 and there was no mech intervention, please heavily consider policy chopping him for the reason of him being alive. but obviously consider flips and daytalk and everything. but keep it in the back of your minds that him surviving night 3, if he does, is highly questionable. put him under scrutiny. make him squirm. be skeptical of him <<<<<
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Meh, Rico wagon doesn't feel like it's gonna happen.
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If you're all planning to mislynch me anyway make sure to do that in an even day.
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In the off-chance that I die tonight, I do wanna share that on n1 it seems I was hit by some sort of negative utility.
Or my role had a chance to fail that was hidden from me. The fail had a flavorful description to it.
Or my role had a chance to fail that was hidden from me. The fail had a flavorful description to it.
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DrWilgy and Ricochet are prob my top suspects aorn
but I am mostly sheeping you all rn
but I am mostly sheeping you all rn
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Rondo might be a wolf maybe?
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Maybe DrWilgy then
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Like, unless it's time to sus tutuu rn
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I hate when people say this because your just giving the wolf team a free killtutuu wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 6:23 pm ok im out good luck friends
>>>>> if jay is alive on day 4 and there was no mech intervention, please heavily consider policy chopping him for the reason of him being alive. but obviously consider flips and daytalk and everything. but keep it in the back of your minds that him surviving night 3, if he does, is highly questionable. put him under scrutiny. make him squirm. be skeptical of him <<<<<
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Usually it's "If X is still alive and not catching any wolves theu're almost certainly a wolf".Zenon wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 6:38 pmI hate when people say this because your just giving the wolf team a free killtutuu wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 6:23 pm ok im out good luck friends
>>>>> if jay is alive on day 4 and there was no mech intervention, please heavily consider policy chopping him for the reason of him being alive. but obviously consider flips and daytalk and everything. but keep it in the back of your minds that him surviving night 3, if he does, is highly questionable. put him under scrutiny. make him squirm. be skeptical of him <<<<<
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Don't mind yeeting either because I don't townread either.
Hopefully I'm home before deadline but will try to keep tabs.
Don't mind yeeting either because I don't townread either.
Hopefully I'm home before deadline but will try to keep tabs.
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Does nobody see a wagon with Martin, JJJ and Tutuu or is this just me?
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I'm not sure what you mean. Could you restate?die_meatbaby wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 6:48 pm Does nobody see a wagon with Martin, JJJ and Tutuu or is this just me?
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martin and rondo aren't on the poll. removed by some ability. me and jjj are theredie_meatbaby wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 6:48 pm Does nobody see a wagon with Martin, JJJ and Tutuu or is this just me?
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Rondodimbuckle and I are missing from the poll, where we vote people, if that's what you're referring to.die_meatbaby wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 6:48 pm Does nobody see a wagon with Martin, JJJ and Tutuu or is this just me?
Everyone else appears to be on there though.
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