Sesame Street Mafia Game Over Town Wins

[Belzy]

Like you think they are just taking 2 town misexe options away from mafia? If I was mafia I'd throw a fit.

You think they are taking 2 mafia exe options away from town so we have to shoot for 1 wolf in a pile? If that's true as town I'm gonna throw a fit.

It's got to be balanced. Ergo 1 of each

Irrelevant.

I mean not really

I will actually be legit pissed if it's unbalanced in a way that fucks over one faction especially if it's town

It's only during d1 I figure. Bazooka down Roxy, Kate and MR, and move on.

[Belzy]

Is not being in the poll NAI... at random?

probably, tho i imagine someone is bound to be pissed if one of them turns out to be an obvwolf and we can’t lunch them

myself included

I'd bet a million dollars one is a wolf and the other is town

Why would it work that way?

Why wouldn't it?

Apparently itsa recruiting bonus, so itsa totally NAI thing.

That's...

I know...

Wanna mason with me, and lynch MR d2?

[tedxtr]

Damn, do I have to be the one to do Serious Game Stuff here? It's not really my thing.

Macro thing: Zenon feels like she's posting just for the sake of keeping a presence.

Micro thing 1:

I only join games with at least 3 people I like now it's my new rule.

Congrats I like at least 3 of you

Objective fact: this was the worst opening post of anyone. It was neither Sesame Street related, nor a generic 'hi' or 'yay' or whatever, nor a generic shit post like 'hmm'. It shows Zenon thinking about herself, and a self-centred perspective is a scummy trait.

ended up voting her yesterday because of this. just seemed thought out and in a way that doesn't achieve much other than getting your foot in the thread

tho im definitely not as strong on it as you seem to be

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

probably, tho i imagine someone is bound to be pissed if one of them turns out to be an obvwolf and we can’t lunch them

myself included

I'd bet a million dollars one is a wolf and the other is town

Why would it work that way?

Why wouldn't it?

Apparently itsa recruiting bonus, so itsa totally NAI thing.

That's...

I know...

Wanna mason with me, and lynch MR d2?

Yep

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Damn, do I have to be the one to do Serious Game Stuff here? It's not really my thing.

Macro thing: Zenon feels like she's posting just for the sake of keeping a presence.

Micro thing 1:

I only join games with at least 3 people I like now it's my new rule.

Congrats I like at least 3 of you

Objective fact: this was the worst opening post of anyone. It was neither Sesame Street related, nor a generic 'hi' or 'yay' or whatever, nor a generic shit post like 'hmm'. It shows Zenon thinking about herself, and a self-centred perspective is a scummy trait.

ended up voting her yesterday because of this. just seemed thought out and in a way that doesn't achieve much other than getting your foot in the thread

tho im definitely not as strong on it as you seem to be

You wolfed with me... for a day... before the game got reranded... how is this anything like that game lol

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

I'm booooored this thread is so slooooow

[Belzy]

I'd bet a million dollars one is a wolf and the other is town

Why would it work that way?

Why wouldn't it?

Apparently itsa recruiting bonus, so itsa totally NAI thing.

That's...

I know...

Wanna mason with me, and lynch MR d2?

Yep

[tedxtr]

Damn, do I have to be the one to do Serious Game Stuff here? It's not really my thing.

Macro thing: Zenon feels like she's posting just for the sake of keeping a presence.

Micro thing 1:

I only join games with at least 3 people I like now it's my new rule.

Congrats I like at least 3 of you

Objective fact: this was the worst opening post of anyone. It was neither Sesame Street related, nor a generic 'hi' or 'yay' or whatever, nor a generic shit post like 'hmm'. It shows Zenon thinking about herself, and a self-centred perspective is a scummy trait.

ended up voting her yesterday because of this. just seemed thought out and in a way that doesn't achieve much other than getting your foot in the thread

tho im definitely not as strong on it as you seem to be

You wolfed with me... for a day... before the game got reranded... how is this anything like that game lol

just said why i voted, i thought your opener was the worst out of all. i don't really pay attention to what my partners do

[tedxtr]

i kinda think it might be a minor bad point MR is doing this while he has a shield. part of me wants to believe he'd use it as a slank, but he's acknowledged having immunity a little too much for my liking

an additional thing is i don't know if he'd feel responsible to kickstart the game as a villa, but the worse part is that he's said nobody did anything when i thought brad went pretty hard in the paint before he posted

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Imagine thinking my opener was bad in any way Lmfao

[Master Radishes]

i kinda think it might be a minor bad point MR is doing this while he has a shield. part of me wants to believe he'd use it as a slank, but he's acknowledged having immunity a little too much for my liking

an additional thing is i don't know if he'd feel responsible to kickstart the game as a villa, but the worse part is that he's said nobody did anything when i thought brad went pretty hard in the paint before he posted

Too bad you can't vote me for it.

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Sorry I didn't default to some lame generic hi or some boring Sesame Street reference

[tedxtr]

i kinda think it might be a minor bad point MR is doing this while he has a shield. part of me wants to believe he'd use it as a slank, but he's acknowledged having immunity a little too much for my liking

an additional thing is i don't know if he'd feel responsible to kickstart the game as a villa, but the worse part is that he's said nobody did anything when i thought brad went pretty hard in the paint before he posted

Too bad you can't vote me for it.

[S~V~S]

Sorry I didn't default to some lame generic hi or some boring Sesame Street reference

Nothing wrong with not taking yourself too seriously in a game based on puppets from a TV show for toddlers. Being lame, generic and boring can be fun

Initially it got my attention that you decided a recruiting bonus had to be balanced, and picked one of the two who got one as the bad one. But you backed off that when it was pointed out to you that it was a recruiting bonus, so meh. All it means is that you didn't read the last few posts in the sign up thread.

But THEN, you didn't actually drop it, so ...

Like you think they are just taking 2 town misexe options away from mafia? If I was mafia I'd throw a fit.

You think they are taking 2 mafia exe options away from town so we have to shoot for 1 wolf in a pile? If that's true as town I'm gonna throw a fit.

It's got to be balanced. Ergo 1 of each

Irrelevant.

I mean not really

I will actually be legit pissed if it's unbalanced in a way that fucks over one faction especially if it's town

So not sure what to think. It's a prize; a prize promised before either knew their factions. Prizes don't have to be balanced. This whole line of discussion feels like a bit of "Look, I'm getting outraged on behalf of town!". Or it could be just me picking apart stuff in a thread full of fluff. Speaking of that;

i saw it in a dream

Lots of OT bullshit in this thread for you to pick apart, and you excel at it. Picking apart seemingly innocuous, banal posts and finding that kernel of truth. I envy your ability to do so, to see to the heart of a matter.

Is dreaming your usual method?

This explains some things, especially about Grover.

I'll be around most of the weekend. I'll be in and out of thread.

[Seanzie]

Is not being in the poll NAI... at random?

I would imagine it's NAI

I would imagine it is not NAI... but I have no idea how to interpret the AI-ness correctly at this time.

[Belzy]

Is not being in the poll NAI... at random?

I would imagine it's NAI

I would imagine it is not NAI... but I have no idea how to interpret the AI-ness correctly at this time.

It is NAI, Sean. Check the sign up thread. The last two signups received a bonus: Kate and MR. This happened before the rand then.

[Belzy]

This game is awfully slow. Only two posts during a football match I just watched.

Can we for once unite as town and win for a change?

1: Kate and MR poll thing is NAI, and move on.

2: decide on a lynch.

[Seanzie]

Is not being in the poll NAI... at random?

I would imagine it's NAI

I would imagine it is not NAI... but I have no idea how to interpret the AI-ness correctly at this time.

It is NAI, Sean. Check the sign up thread. The last two signups received a bonus: Kate and MR. This happened before the rand then.

Yes, I see that now, thanks.

[Seanzie]

This game is awfully slow. Only two posts during a football match I just watched.

Can we for once unite as town and win for a change?

1: Kate and MR poll thing is NAI, and move on.

2: decide on a lynch.

I feel like while the game started rather slow, it is clearly picking up. There is a lot of AI info from you, Zenon, MR, Ted, and SVS sitting in this last page. There also is probably enough AI info to get a good read on Lime.

I'mma summarize my thoughts in a minute, but I am a bit confused as to how you aren't seeing the game escalating, since you are one of the people that is in the thick of it.

[Belzy]

This game is awfully slow. Only two posts during a football match I just watched.

Can we for once unite as town and win for a change?

1: Kate and MR poll thing is NAI, and move on.

2: decide on a lynch.

I feel like while the game started rather slow, it is clearly picking up. There is a lot of AI info from you, Zenon, MR, Ted, and SVS sitting in this last page. There also is probably enough AI info to get a good read on Lime.

I'mma summarize my thoughts in a minute, but I am a bit confused as to how you aren't seeing the game escalating, since you are one of the people that is in the thick of it.

The unite part is based on all recent games as well how many posts are required for everyone to realize the Kate MR thing is NAI as well as the lack of posts so far. More posts mean more stuff to read players, which includes finding town and hopefully cornering scum in the end.

Imo the game is too slow so far.

[Belzy]

Is not being in the poll NAI... at random?

I would imagine it's NAI

I would imagine it is not NAI... but I have no idea how to interpret the AI-ness correctly at this time.

It is NAI, Sean. Check the sign up thread. The last two signups received a bonus: Kate and MR. This happened before the rand then.

Yes, I see that now, thanks.

You're welcome.

[Kate]

Not being able to sleep suuuucks.

Maybe it's all the caffeine.

[Seanzie]

Spoiler: show

Damn, do I have to be the one to do Serious Game Stuff here? It's not really my thing.

Macro thing: Zenon feels like she's posting just for the sake of keeping a presence.

Micro thing 1:

I only join games with at least 3 people I like now it's my new rule.

Congrats I like at least 3 of you

Objective fact: this was the worst opening post of anyone. It was neither Sesame Street related, nor a generic 'hi' or 'yay' or whatever, nor a generic shit post like 'hmm'. It shows Zenon thinking about herself, and a self-centred perspective is a scummy trait.


Micro thing 2 (will put this sequence in spoilers):

Spoiler: show

brad is lock mafia

I'm bored so sure

Vote: bread

[VOTE: Zenon] aubergine

Vote: Tu madre

The mild 'I'm bored so sure' justification feels unnecessary, and the silly comeback to Wilgy feels like a deflection.


Zenon is LOCK SCUM.

Discuss.

Okay, I am going to put a townlean MR for the above post. It is level 1 townie, whereas you gotta get to level 2 to think it is scummy, so this early I'mma just run with townie. This post did IMO acomplish accelerating the pace of the game (even though there were some other things prior that started us moving in that direction). MR didn't have to do anything today, but they did something to get discussion going. Not unfakable, but I think it makes more sense coming from town than scum-who-need-not-even-be-in-the-thread-today. I don't think the case itself is so damning for Zenon, but I do think the post is pro-town (even if MR is scum, the post will do the game more good than bad IMO), so yeah.

Spoiler: show

Damn, do I have to be the one to do Serious Game Stuff here? It's not really my thing.

Macro thing: Zenon feels like she's posting just for the sake of keeping a presence.

Micro thing 1:

I only join games with at least 3 people I like now it's my new rule.

Congrats I like at least 3 of you

Objective fact: this was the worst opening post of anyone. It was neither Sesame Street related, nor a generic 'hi' or 'yay' or whatever, nor a generic shit post like 'hmm'. It shows Zenon thinking about herself, and a self-centred perspective is a scummy trait.


Micro thing 2 (will put this sequence in spoilers):

Spoiler: show

brad is lock mafia

I'm bored so sure

Vote: bread

[VOTE: Zenon] aubergine

Vote: Tu madre

The mild 'I'm bored so sure' justification feels unnecessary, and the silly comeback to Wilgy feels like a deflection.


Zenon is LOCK SCUM.

Discuss.

This is such a bad analysis of how I play mafia I laugh in your general direction

How may times have you played with MR @Zenon?
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I think out of everyone around the MR/Zenon thing, I am most worried about Belzy (and one other name that will come later). They look like they very well could be scum pushing an early t/t feud. They don't get their hands as dirty as others have been, voting MR and only making one post saying they disagree with them. Also, some of their posts have come off as more like trying to be helpful without really doing much (CWAC) and a little pockety, see e.g. below. Town definitely can CWAC early game (and even late game), but coupled with how i see MR/Zenon, it worries me.

Spoiler: show

probably, tho i imagine someone is bound to be pissed if one of them turns out to be an obvwolf and we can’t lunch them

myself included

I'd bet a million dollars one is a wolf and the other is town

Why would it work that way?

Why wouldn't it?

Apparently itsa recruiting bonus, so itsa totally NAI thing.

That's...

I know...

Wanna mason with me, and lynch MR d2?

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So, Ted is >rand!villa. I think the sus on Zenon, but then considering MR with a nuanced read looks good. Wolves could easily just pick a side to support, or stay out of it, but Ted looks like they're actually evaluating everyone involved.

Spoiler: show

Damn, do I have to be the one to do Serious Game Stuff here? It's not really my thing.

Macro thing: Zenon feels like she's posting just for the sake of keeping a presence.

Micro thing 1:

I only join games with at least 3 people I like now it's my new rule.

Congrats I like at least 3 of you

Objective fact: this was the worst opening post of anyone. It was neither Sesame Street related, nor a generic 'hi' or 'yay' or whatever, nor a generic shit post like 'hmm'. It shows Zenon thinking about herself, and a self-centred perspective is a scummy trait.

ended up voting her yesterday because of this. just seemed thought out and in a way that doesn't achieve much other than getting your foot in the thread

tho im definitely not as strong on it as you seem to be

i kinda think it might be a minor bad point MR is doing this while he has a shield. part of me wants to believe he'd use it as a slank, but he's acknowledged having immunity a little too much for my liking

an additional thing is i don't know if he'd feel responsible to kickstart the game as a villa, but the worse part is that he's said nobody did anything when i thought brad went pretty hard in the paint before he posted

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I'm not a big fan of Zenon trying to appeal to a single day of a single game to deflect a read on her. It is probably NAI for Zenon herself, but I don't think it is a valid argument. Also, I don't see why you think your opener was somehow so townie to be beyond reproach?

Spoiler: show

Damn, do I have to be the one to do Serious Game Stuff here? It's not really my thing.

Macro thing: Zenon feels like she's posting just for the sake of keeping a presence.

Micro thing 1:

I only join games with at least 3 people I like now it's my new rule.

Congrats I like at least 3 of you

Objective fact: this was the worst opening post of anyone. It was neither Sesame Street related, nor a generic 'hi' or 'yay' or whatever, nor a generic shit post like 'hmm'. It shows Zenon thinking about herself, and a self-centred perspective is a scummy trait.

ended up voting her yesterday because of this. just seemed thought out and in a way that doesn't achieve much other than getting your foot in the thread

tho im definitely not as strong on it as you seem to be

You wolfed with me... for a day... before the game got reranded... how is this anything like that game lol

Imagine thinking my opener was bad in any way Lmfao

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Below is a post by SVS that I don't like.

They picked what IMO is the most NAI parts of Zenon's game (the discussion about the prizes), and subtly shade Zenon without really ever taking a stance. I Can see the "Look, I'm getting outraged on behalf of town" thing, but they soften it so much that SVS has plausible deniability for whatever happens with a future Zenon push.

Post towards Robyn, again seems to focus on something largely NAI, question comes of as shading, but not so hard to still leave plausible deniability.

Big post with a whole lot of not a lot. This isn't fluff (except the last part), so it being like this is worrisome.

Spoiler: show

Sorry I didn't default to some lame generic hi or some boring Sesame Street reference

Nothing wrong with not taking yourself too seriously in a game based on puppets from a TV show for toddlers. Being lame, generic and boring can be fun

Initially it got my attention that you decided a recruiting bonus had to be balanced, and picked one of the two who got one as the bad one. But you backed off that when it was pointed out to you that it was a recruiting bonus, so meh. All it means is that you didn't read the last few posts in the sign up thread.

But THEN, you didn't actually drop it, so ...

Like you think they are just taking 2 town misexe options away from mafia? If I was mafia I'd throw a fit.

You think they are taking 2 mafia exe options away from town so we have to shoot for 1 wolf in a pile? If that's true as town I'm gonna throw a fit.

It's got to be balanced. Ergo 1 of each

Irrelevant.

I mean not really

I will actually be legit pissed if it's unbalanced in a way that fucks over one faction especially if it's town

So not sure what to think. It's a prize; a prize promised before either knew their factions. Prizes don't have to be balanced. This whole line of discussion feels like a bit of "Look, I'm getting outraged on behalf of town!". Or it could be just me picking apart stuff in a thread full of fluff. Speaking of that;

i saw it in a dream

Lots of OT bullshit in this thread for you to pick apart, and you excel at it. Picking apart seemingly innocuous, banal posts and finding that kernel of truth. I envy your ability to do so, to see to the heart of a matter.

Is dreaming your usual method?

This explains some things, especially about Grover.

I'll be around most of the weekend. I'll be in and out of thread.

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Ted

MR

Zenon

SVS
Belzy

[Kate]

Is not being in the poll NAI... at random?

Kate and I are the Mafia.

I'm Mr. Rogers and radishes is Cap'n kangaroo. Game solved.

[Kate]

Is not being in the poll NAI... at random?

Kate and I are the Mafia.

And we cannot vote for you ... all game long! I knew it! this is the real world. Scum cannot be touched.

Oh I can be touched, but that was an ent7rely different game!

[S~V~S]

I think the Robyn thing IS AI.

And I don't know what to think of Zenon. That's why i brought it up.

This really feels like trying too hard to look towny. The mistake about whether or not being on the poll it is NAI, meh. I was more intrigued to her reaction to Belzy telling her is was NAI. She kinda wouldn't let it go, as opposed to your reaction of , Oh, OK.

Not the same.

But not sure if this is bad Zenon trying to look townier, or embarrassed Zenon trying to save face for making an easy mistake. So you know, you poke a bit to see how they react.

I also dislike a big RVS vote train on Zenon.

[Kate]

Is not being in the poll NAI... at random?

probably, tho i imagine someone is bound to be pissed if one of them turns out to be an obvwolf and we can’t lunch them

myself included

I'd bet a million dollars one is a wolf and the other is town

Why would it work that way?

I'd bet it's completely random. We won it for recruiting.

[S~V~S]

This was @Seanzie I didn't notice posts between until after I posted. I know all you mega posters loathe linki review, but I really do miss it.

I think the Robyn thing IS AI.

And I don't know what to think of Zenon. That's why i brought it up.

This really feels like trying too hard to look towny. The mistake about whether or not being on the poll it is NAI, meh. I was more intrigued to her reaction to Belzy telling her is was NAI. She kinda wouldn't let it go, as opposed to your reaction of , Oh, OK.

Not the same.

But not sure if this is bad Zenon trying to look townier, or embarrassed Zenon trying to save face for making an easy mistake. So you know, you poke a bit to see how they react.

I also dislike a big RVS vote train on Zenon.

[Kate]

Damn, do I have to be the one to do Serious Game Stuff here? It's not really my thing.

Macro thing: Zenon feels like she's posting just for the sake of keeping a presence.

Micro thing 1:

I only join games with at least 3 people I like now it's my new rule.

Congrats I like at least 3 of you

Objective fact: this was the worst opening post of anyone. It was neither Sesame Street related, nor a generic 'hi' or 'yay' or whatever, nor a generic shit post like 'hmm'. It shows Zenon thinking about herself, and a self-centred perspective is a scummy trait.


Micro thing 2 (will put this sequence in spoilers):

Spoiler: show

brad is lock mafia

I'm bored so sure

Vote: bread

[VOTE: Zenon] aubergine

Vote: Tu madre

The mild 'I'm bored so sure' justification feels unnecessary, and the silly comeback to Wilgy feels like a deflection.


Zenon is LOCK SCUM.

Discuss.

Well, to be fair, she's thinking of three of us, as well. Might just not be you

[Belzy]

Spoiler: show

Damn, do I have to be the one to do Serious Game Stuff here? It's not really my thing.

Macro thing: Zenon feels like she's posting just for the sake of keeping a presence.

Micro thing 1:

I only join games with at least 3 people I like now it's my new rule.

Congrats I like at least 3 of you

Objective fact: this was the worst opening post of anyone. It was neither Sesame Street related, nor a generic 'hi' or 'yay' or whatever, nor a generic shit post like 'hmm'. It shows Zenon thinking about herself, and a self-centred perspective is a scummy trait.


Micro thing 2 (will put this sequence in spoilers):

Spoiler: show

brad is lock mafia

I'm bored so sure

Vote: bread

[VOTE: Zenon] aubergine

Vote: Tu madre

The mild 'I'm bored so sure' justification feels unnecessary, and the silly comeback to Wilgy feels like a deflection.


Zenon is LOCK SCUM.

Discuss.

Okay, I am going to put a townlean MR for the above post. It is level 1 townie, whereas you gotta get to level 2 to think it is scummy, so this early I'mma just run with townie. This post did IMO acomplish accelerating the pace of the game (even though there were some other things prior that started us moving in that direction). MR didn't have to do anything today, but they did something to get discussion going. Not unfakable, but I think it makes more sense coming from town than scum-who-need-not-even-be-in-the-thread-today. I don't think the case itself is so damning for Zenon, but I do think the post is pro-town (even if MR is scum, the post will do the game more good than bad IMO), so yeah.

Spoiler: show

Damn, do I have to be the one to do Serious Game Stuff here? It's not really my thing.

Macro thing: Zenon feels like she's posting just for the sake of keeping a presence.

Micro thing 1:

I only join games with at least 3 people I like now it's my new rule.

Congrats I like at least 3 of you

Objective fact: this was the worst opening post of anyone. It was neither Sesame Street related, nor a generic 'hi' or 'yay' or whatever, nor a generic shit post like 'hmm'. It shows Zenon thinking about herself, and a self-centred perspective is a scummy trait.


Micro thing 2 (will put this sequence in spoilers):

Spoiler: show

brad is lock mafia

I'm bored so sure

Vote: bread

[VOTE: Zenon] aubergine

Vote: Tu madre

The mild 'I'm bored so sure' justification feels unnecessary, and the silly comeback to Wilgy feels like a deflection.


Zenon is LOCK SCUM.

Discuss.

This is such a bad analysis of how I play mafia I laugh in your general direction

How may times have you played with MR @Zenon?
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I think out of everyone around the MR/Zenon thing, I am most worried about Belzy (and one other name that will come later). They look like they very well could be scum pushing an early t/t feud. They don't get their hands as dirty as others have been, voting MR and only making one post saying they disagree with them. Also, some of their posts have come off as more like trying to be helpful without really doing much (CWAC) and a little pockety, see e.g. below. Town definitely can CWAC early game (and even late game), but coupled with how i see MR/Zenon, it worries me.

Spoiler: show

I'd bet a million dollars one is a wolf and the other is town

Why would it work that way?

Why wouldn't it?

Apparently itsa recruiting bonus, so itsa totally NAI thing.

That's...

I know...

Wanna mason with me, and lynch MR d2?

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So, Ted is >rand!villa. I think the sus on Zenon, but then considering MR with a nuanced read looks good. Wolves could easily just pick a side to support, or stay out of it, but Ted looks like they're actually evaluating everyone involved.

Spoiler: show

Damn, do I have to be the one to do Serious Game Stuff here? It's not really my thing.

Macro thing: Zenon feels like she's posting just for the sake of keeping a presence.

Micro thing 1:

I only join games with at least 3 people I like now it's my new rule.

Congrats I like at least 3 of you

Objective fact: this was the worst opening post of anyone. It was neither Sesame Street related, nor a generic 'hi' or 'yay' or whatever, nor a generic shit post like 'hmm'. It shows Zenon thinking about herself, and a self-centred perspective is a scummy trait.

ended up voting her yesterday because of this. just seemed thought out and in a way that doesn't achieve much other than getting your foot in the thread

tho im definitely not as strong on it as you seem to be

i kinda think it might be a minor bad point MR is doing this while he has a shield. part of me wants to believe he'd use it as a slank, but he's acknowledged having immunity a little too much for my liking

an additional thing is i don't know if he'd feel responsible to kickstart the game as a villa, but the worse part is that he's said nobody did anything when i thought brad went pretty hard in the paint before he posted

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I'm not a big fan of Zenon trying to appeal to a single day of a single game to deflect a read on her. It is probably NAI for Zenon herself, but I don't think it is a valid argument. Also, I don't see why you think your opener was somehow so townie to be beyond reproach?

Spoiler: show

Damn, do I have to be the one to do Serious Game Stuff here? It's not really my thing.

Macro thing: Zenon feels like she's posting just for the sake of keeping a presence.

Micro thing 1:

I only join games with at least 3 people I like now it's my new rule.

Congrats I like at least 3 of you

Objective fact: this was the worst opening post of anyone. It was neither Sesame Street related, nor a generic 'hi' or 'yay' or whatever, nor a generic shit post like 'hmm'. It shows Zenon thinking about herself, and a self-centred perspective is a scummy trait.

ended up voting her yesterday because of this. just seemed thought out and in a way that doesn't achieve much other than getting your foot in the thread

tho im definitely not as strong on it as you seem to be

You wolfed with me... for a day... before the game got reranded... how is this anything like that game lol

Imagine thinking my opener was bad in any way Lmfao

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Below is a post by SVS that I don't like.

They picked what IMO is the most NAI parts of Zenon's game (the discussion about the prizes), and subtly shade Zenon without really ever taking a stance. I Can see the "Look, I'm getting outraged on behalf of town" thing, but they soften it so much that SVS has plausible deniability for whatever happens with a future Zenon push.

Post towards Robyn, again seems to focus on something largely NAI, question comes of as shading, but not so hard to still leave plausible deniability.

Big post with a whole lot of not a lot. This isn't fluff (except the last part), so it being like this is worrisome.

Spoiler: show

Sorry I didn't default to some lame generic hi or some boring Sesame Street reference

Nothing wrong with not taking yourself too seriously in a game based on puppets from a TV show for toddlers. Being lame, generic and boring can be fun

Initially it got my attention that you decided a recruiting bonus had to be balanced, and picked one of the two who got one as the bad one. But you backed off that when it was pointed out to you that it was a recruiting bonus, so meh. All it means is that you didn't read the last few posts in the sign up thread.

But THEN, you didn't actually drop it, so ...

Like you think they are just taking 2 town misexe options away from mafia? If I was mafia I'd throw a fit.

You think they are taking 2 mafia exe options away from town so we have to shoot for 1 wolf in a pile? If that's true as town I'm gonna throw a fit.

It's got to be balanced. Ergo 1 of each

Irrelevant.

I mean not really

I will actually be legit pissed if it's unbalanced in a way that fucks over one faction especially if it's town

So not sure what to think. It's a prize; a prize promised before either knew their factions. Prizes don't have to be balanced. This whole line of discussion feels like a bit of "Look, I'm getting outraged on behalf of town!". Or it could be just me picking apart stuff in a thread full of fluff. Speaking of that;

i saw it in a dream

Lots of OT bullshit in this thread for you to pick apart, and you excel at it. Picking apart seemingly innocuous, banal posts and finding that kernel of truth. I envy your ability to do so, to see to the heart of a matter.

Is dreaming your usual method?

This explains some things, especially about Grover.

I'll be around most of the weekend. I'll be in and out of thread.

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Ted

MR

Zenon

SVS
Belzy

This all is still based on very little. Your very early with such detailed read list this time. This does not make you necessirily town. Mostly thin air imo.

[Belzy]

Zenon and I mason'd before, and I support her protest.

Gimme more posts, so we can make a good case on someone.

[Kate]

This was @Seanzie I didn't notice posts between until after I posted. I know all you mega posters loathe linki review, but I really do miss it.

I think the Robyn thing IS AI.

And I don't know what to think of Zenon. That's why i brought it up.

This really feels like trying too hard to look towny. The mistake about whether or not being on the poll it is NAI, meh. I was more intrigued to her reaction to Belzy telling her is was NAI. She kinda wouldn't let it go, as opposed to your reaction of , Oh, OK.

Not the same.

But not sure if this is bad Zenon trying to look townier, or embarrassed Zenon trying to save face for making an easy mistake. So you know, you poke a bit to see how they react.

I also dislike a big RVS vote train on Zenon.

I'm sorta a mega poster and I'd give anything for the return of linki.

[Thunal33]

Hi everyone!

Hi Thunal! How you been?

Hi Belzy, nice to play with you again! I've been doing pretty well, I returned to mafia a couple months ago. How about you?

[Kate]

Spoiler: show

Damn, do I have to be the one to do Serious Game Stuff here? It's not really my thing.

Macro thing: Zenon feels like she's posting just for the sake of keeping a presence.

Micro thing 1:

I only join games with at least 3 people I like now it's my new rule.

Congrats I like at least 3 of you

Objective fact: this was the worst opening post of anyone. It was neither Sesame Street related, nor a generic 'hi' or 'yay' or whatever, nor a generic shit post like 'hmm'. It shows Zenon thinking about herself, and a self-centred perspective is a scummy trait.


Micro thing 2 (will put this sequence in spoilers):

Spoiler: show

brad is lock mafia

I'm bored so sure

Vote: bread

[VOTE: Zenon] aubergine

Vote: Tu madre

The mild 'I'm bored so sure' justification feels unnecessary, and the silly comeback to Wilgy feels like a deflection.


Zenon is LOCK SCUM.

Discuss.

Okay, I am going to put a townlean MR for the above post. It is level 1 townie, whereas you gotta get to level 2 to think it is scummy, so this early I'mma just run with townie. This post did IMO acomplish accelerating the pace of the game (even though there were some other things prior that started us moving in that direction). MR didn't have to do anything today, but they did something to get discussion going. Not unfakable, but I think it makes more sense coming from town than scum-who-need-not-even-be-in-the-thread-today. I don't think the case itself is so damning for Zenon, but I do think the post is pro-town (even if MR is scum, the post will do the game more good than bad IMO), so yeah.

Spoiler: show

Damn, do I have to be the one to do Serious Game Stuff here? It's not really my thing.

Macro thing: Zenon feels like she's posting just for the sake of keeping a presence.

Micro thing 1:

I only join games with at least 3 people I like now it's my new rule.

Congrats I like at least 3 of you

Objective fact: this was the worst opening post of anyone. It was neither Sesame Street related, nor a generic 'hi' or 'yay' or whatever, nor a generic shit post like 'hmm'. It shows Zenon thinking about herself, and a self-centred perspective is a scummy trait.


Micro thing 2 (will put this sequence in spoilers):

Spoiler: show

brad is lock mafia

I'm bored so sure

Vote: bread

[VOTE: Zenon] aubergine

Vote: Tu madre

The mild 'I'm bored so sure' justification feels unnecessary, and the silly comeback to Wilgy feels like a deflection.


Zenon is LOCK SCUM.

Discuss.

This is such a bad analysis of how I play mafia I laugh in your general direction

How may times have you played with MR @Zenon?
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I think out of everyone around the MR/Zenon thing, I am most worried about Belzy (and one other name that will come later). They look like they very well could be scum pushing an early t/t feud. They don't get their hands as dirty as others have been, voting MR and only making one post saying they disagree with them. Also, some of their posts have come off as more like trying to be helpful without really doing much (CWAC) and a little pockety, see e.g. below. Town definitely can CWAC early game (and even late game), but coupled with how i see MR/Zenon, it worries me.

Spoiler: show

Why would it work that way?

Why wouldn't it?

Apparently itsa recruiting bonus, so itsa totally NAI thing.

That's...

I know...

Wanna mason with me, and lynch MR d2?

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So, Ted is >rand!villa. I think the sus on Zenon, but then considering MR with a nuanced read looks good. Wolves could easily just pick a side to support, or stay out of it, but Ted looks like they're actually evaluating everyone involved.

Spoiler: show

Damn, do I have to be the one to do Serious Game Stuff here? It's not really my thing.

Macro thing: Zenon feels like she's posting just for the sake of keeping a presence.

Micro thing 1:

I only join games with at least 3 people I like now it's my new rule.

Congrats I like at least 3 of you

Objective fact: this was the worst opening post of anyone. It was neither Sesame Street related, nor a generic 'hi' or 'yay' or whatever, nor a generic shit post like 'hmm'. It shows Zenon thinking about herself, and a self-centred perspective is a scummy trait.

ended up voting her yesterday because of this. just seemed thought out and in a way that doesn't achieve much other than getting your foot in the thread

tho im definitely not as strong on it as you seem to be

i kinda think it might be a minor bad point MR is doing this while he has a shield. part of me wants to believe he'd use it as a slank, but he's acknowledged having immunity a little too much for my liking

an additional thing is i don't know if he'd feel responsible to kickstart the game as a villa, but the worse part is that he's said nobody did anything when i thought brad went pretty hard in the paint before he posted

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I'm not a big fan of Zenon trying to appeal to a single day of a single game to deflect a read on her. It is probably NAI for Zenon herself, but I don't think it is a valid argument. Also, I don't see why you think your opener was somehow so townie to be beyond reproach?

Spoiler: show

Damn, do I have to be the one to do Serious Game Stuff here? It's not really my thing.

Macro thing: Zenon feels like she's posting just for the sake of keeping a presence.

Micro thing 1:

I only join games with at least 3 people I like now it's my new rule.

Congrats I like at least 3 of you

Objective fact: this was the worst opening post of anyone. It was neither Sesame Street related, nor a generic 'hi' or 'yay' or whatever, nor a generic shit post like 'hmm'. It shows Zenon thinking about herself, and a self-centred perspective is a scummy trait.

ended up voting her yesterday because of this. just seemed thought out and in a way that doesn't achieve much other than getting your foot in the thread

tho im definitely not as strong on it as you seem to be

You wolfed with me... for a day... before the game got reranded... how is this anything like that game lol

Imagine thinking my opener was bad in any way Lmfao

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Below is a post by SVS that I don't like.

They picked what IMO is the most NAI parts of Zenon's game (the discussion about the prizes), and subtly shade Zenon without really ever taking a stance. I Can see the "Look, I'm getting outraged on behalf of town" thing, but they soften it so much that SVS has plausible deniability for whatever happens with a future Zenon push.

Post towards Robyn, again seems to focus on something largely NAI, question comes of as shading, but not so hard to still leave plausible deniability.

Big post with a whole lot of not a lot. This isn't fluff (except the last part), so it being like this is worrisome.

Spoiler: show

Sorry I didn't default to some lame generic hi or some boring Sesame Street reference

Nothing wrong with not taking yourself too seriously in a game based on puppets from a TV show for toddlers. Being lame, generic and boring can be fun

Initially it got my attention that you decided a recruiting bonus had to be balanced, and picked one of the two who got one as the bad one. But you backed off that when it was pointed out to you that it was a recruiting bonus, so meh. All it means is that you didn't read the last few posts in the sign up thread.

But THEN, you didn't actually drop it, so ...

Like you think they are just taking 2 town misexe options away from mafia? If I was mafia I'd throw a fit.

You think they are taking 2 mafia exe options away from town so we have to shoot for 1 wolf in a pile? If that's true as town I'm gonna throw a fit.

It's got to be balanced. Ergo 1 of each

Irrelevant.

I mean not really

I will actually be legit pissed if it's unbalanced in a way that fucks over one faction especially if it's town

So not sure what to think. It's a prize; a prize promised before either knew their factions. Prizes don't have to be balanced. This whole line of discussion feels like a bit of "Look, I'm getting outraged on behalf of town!". Or it could be just me picking apart stuff in a thread full of fluff. Speaking of that;

i saw it in a dream

Lots of OT bullshit in this thread for you to pick apart, and you excel at it. Picking apart seemingly innocuous, banal posts and finding that kernel of truth. I envy your ability to do so, to see to the heart of a matter.

Is dreaming your usual method?

This explains some things, especially about Grover.

I'll be around most of the weekend. I'll be in and out of thread.

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Ted

MR

Zenon

SVS
Belzy

This all is still based on very little. Your very early with such detailed read list this time. This does not make you necessirily town. Mostly thin air imo.

Seanzie, youre calling out svs? Nah, not seeing it. At least not yet.

[Belzy]

I think the Robyn thing IS AI.

And I don't know what to think of Zenon. That's why i brought it up.

This really feels like trying too hard to look towny. The mistake about whether or not being on the poll it is NAI, meh. I was more intrigued to her reaction to Belzy telling her is was NAI. She kinda wouldn't let it go, as opposed to your reaction of , Oh, OK.

Not the same.

But not sure if this is bad Zenon trying to look townier, or embarrassed Zenon trying to save face for making an easy mistake. So you know, you poke a bit to see how they react.

I also dislike a big RVS vote train on Zenon.

SVS first 5 posts are fluff also explaining the bonus. This post is only game related one so far. I honestly fail to interpret whom or what SVS is referring to in most sentences. I am not English native speaker. Cuz Sean puts SVS in red, I try to understand why.

[Belzy]

Hi everyone!

Hi Thunal! How you been?

Hi Belzy, nice to play with you again! I've been doing pretty well, I returned to mafia a couple months ago. How about you?

Likewise! Good to see you here. I'm fine. Also playing again last few months and once a year ago since my retirement.

[Belzy]

Sean's reads are really weird, but I appreciate the effort. I hope it moves up the game.

[Thunal33]

Is not being in the poll NAI... at random?

probably, tho i imagine someone is bound to be pissed if one of them turns out to be an obvwolf and we can’t lunch them

myself included

I'd bet a million dollars one is a wolf and the other is town

Why would it work that way?

Why wouldn't it?

Apparently itsa recruiting bonus, so itsa totally NAI thing.

Recruiting bonus? Roxy said me and Kate would start with something in the opening post, not Kate and MR. I'm still waiting lol.

[Thunal33]

Hi everyone!

Hi Thunal! How you been?

Hi Belzy, nice to play with you again! I've been doing pretty well, I returned to mafia a couple months ago. How about you?

Likewise! Good to see you here. I'm fine. Also playing again last few months and once a year ago since my retirement.

It's impossible to retire from mafia.

[Belzy]

Hi everyone!

Hi Thunal! How you been?

Hi Belzy, nice to play with you again! I've been doing pretty well, I returned to mafia a couple months ago. How about you?

Likewise! Good to see you here. I'm fine. Also playing again last few months and once a year ago since my retirement.

It's impossible to retire from mafia.

Case and point. Life isn't interessting enouf wo it.

[Belzy]

Is not being in the poll NAI... at random?

probably, tho i imagine someone is bound to be pissed if one of them turns out to be an obvwolf and we can’t lunch them

myself included

I'd bet a million dollars one is a wolf and the other is town

Why would it work that way?

Why wouldn't it?

Apparently itsa recruiting bonus, so itsa totally NAI thing.

Recruiting bonus? Roxy said me and Kate would start with something in the opening post, not Kate and MR. I'm still waiting lol.

MR said in sign up thread: I recruit myself.

[Belzy]

Fun fact: Sean got top 2 posters in his bottom 3. Most ppl barely posted so far.

[tedxtr]

sounds villagery

[Belzy]

sounds villagery

...is response to?

[S~V~S]

I think the Robyn thing IS AI.

And I don't know what to think of Zenon. That's why i brought it up.

This really feels like trying too hard to look towny. The mistake about whether or not being on the poll it is NAI, meh. I was more intrigued to her reaction to Belzy telling her is was NAI. She kinda wouldn't let it go, as opposed to your reaction of , Oh, OK.

Not the same.

But not sure if this is bad Zenon trying to look townier, or embarrassed Zenon trying to save face for making an easy mistake. So you know, you poke a bit to see how they react.

I also dislike a big RVS vote train on Zenon.

SVS first 5 posts are fluff also explaining the bonus. This post is only game related one so far. I honestly fail to interpret whom or what SVS is referring to in most sentences. I am not English native speaker. Cuz Sean puts SVS in red, I try to understand why.

I'm sorry if I'm not being clear. I tend to shorthand a bit and I write like I speak; I generally read a post out loud if possible (at home not work lol) before posting. I also write run on sentences. I'll try to do less of all that.

Please let me know if any specific things I say are unclear.

And yes I was total fluff initially. When I started noticing things I started mentioning them. Which is what I thought was the point of all this.

[Thunal33]

probably, tho i imagine someone is bound to be pissed if one of them turns out to be an obvwolf and we can’t lunch them

myself included

I'd bet a million dollars one is a wolf and the other is town

Why would it work that way?

Why wouldn't it?

Apparently itsa recruiting bonus, so itsa totally NAI thing.

Recruiting bonus? Roxy said me and Kate would start with something in the opening post, not Kate and MR. I'm still waiting lol.

MR said in sign up thread: I recruit myself.

Oh yeah, it was MR and Kate.

[tedxtr]

sounds villagery

...is response to?

your post

[tedxtr]

hola thunal, nice to see you again

[Thunal33]

I'm getting slight town vibes from MR because he acts like I do when I'm confirmed town by feeling free to do anything he wants without being suspected.

[Thunal33]

hola thunal, nice to see you again

Hi Ted! Nice to see you!