JJJ's Bad First Dates Mafia [END]

[Kate]

A quick read of Sean shows Epi, Guillo and pyxxy.

I trust zenon and I respect Sean's play, like a lot. So I'm sticking with guillo.

[S~V~S]

someone remind me how to get seconds timestamps for posts

I don't know if anyone else already answered this.

In the UCP, go to "Board Preferences", "Edit Global Settings", set "My Date Format" to "custom", and copy this into the syntax box: D M d, Y g:i:s a

[Kate]

[pyxxy]

A quick read of Sean shows Epi, Guillo and pyxxy.

I trust zenon and I respect Sean's play, like a lot. So I'm sticking with guillo.

I'm scared of hammer but I'm there in spirit?

if you're bored, you can read your slot's opinions on Guillo, which was a townread

[Kate]

A quick read of Sean shows Epi, Guillo and pyxxy.

I trust zenon and I respect Sean's play, like a lot. So I'm sticking with guillo.

I'm scared of hammer but I'm there in spirit?

if you're bored, you can read your slot's opinions on Guillo, which was a townread

Nah. But I will reread you and epi before judging ye all.

[pyxxy]

A quick read of Sean shows Epi, Guillo and pyxxy.

I trust zenon and I respect Sean's play, like a lot. So I'm sticking with guillo.

I'm scared of hammer but I'm there in spirit?

if you're bored, you can read your slot's opinions on Guillo, which was a townread

Nah. But I will reread you and epi before judging ye all.

kk

[Kate]

Wilgy and pyxxy youre seriously voting no vote on day 3 with no wolves uncovered??

[pyxxy]

Wilgy and pyxxy youre seriously voting no vote on day 3 with no wolves uncovered??

okay so I thought you just made a typo earlier

deadline is tomorrow

[Kate]

Wilgy and pyxxy youre seriously voting no vote on day 3 with no wolves uncovered??

okay so I thought you just made a typo earlier

deadline is tomorrow

[pyxxy]

Wilgy and pyxxy youre seriously voting no vote on day 3 with no wolves uncovered??

okay so I thought you just made a typo earlier

deadline is tomorrow

you can lick me town for my helpful demeanor

[falcon45ca]

@falcon45ca no rush but I'm curious what you'll perceive from EOD

Just got back from a work road trip, whatcha looking at?

[pyxxy]

@falcon45ca no rush but I'm curious what you'll perceive from EOD

Just got back from a work road trip, whatcha looking at?

- Zenon spent the day townreading and defending and having a good time chatting with Rem
- EOD mess because split wagons and too many afks
- Zenon ends up as the deciding vote chopping Rem because Epi pulled off Rem and Zenon had moved from Epi to Rem to avoid a tie

what do you make of like the last 10 minutes of EOD is basically the question

[falcon45ca]

@falcon45ca no rush but I'm curious what you'll perceive from EOD

Just got back from a work road trip, whatcha looking at?

- Zenon spent the day townreading and defending and having a good time chatting with Rem
- EOD mess because split wagons and too many afks
- Zenon ends up as the deciding vote chopping Rem because Epi pulled off Rem and Zenon had moved from Epi to Rem to avoid a tie

what do you make of like the last 10 minutes of EOD is basically the question

Well, based off that info, Imma [VOTE: Neon] aubergine

[falcon45ca]

Epi looks to be partnered if Neon flips red

[pyxxy]

Epi looks to be partnered if Neon flips red

is it really that easy sometimes?

[pyxxy]

like looking at EOD

why doesn't Epi just stick on Rem and Zenon finds any other excuse to vote elsewhere

[falcon45ca]

Epi looks to be partnered if Neon flips red

is it really that easy sometimes?

Why the need to untie the wagons? Why not vote Epi if she's been TR Rem at that point? What kind of interactions does she have w/ Epi?




Yeah, sometimes it is that easy

[falcon45ca]

like looking at EOD

why doesn't Epi just stick on Rem and Zenon finds any other excuse to vote elsewhere

Was Epi around at EOD? Wolves often feel more of a need to build a case, and I'm not sure what, if any, interactions he had w/ Rem

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Whoa guys. Just a game. Let's not have anyone getting in trouble.

Nobody is getting in trouble

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

@Zenon come back.

Where did everyone go??

To not deal with my depression

What up?

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

@Zenon I read you. Extremely clearly civ zenon. Come back I'll mason with you sugarpop.

Imma sheep zenon.
[VOTE: guillotine] aubergine

Heck yes let's mason I need to get comfy in this game again

[pyxxy]

like looking at EOD

why doesn't Epi just stick on Rem and Zenon finds any other excuse to vote elsewhere

Was Epi around at EOD? Wolves often feel more of a need to build a case, and I'm not sure what, if any, interactions he had w/ Rem

EOD is only one page, just read this

https://mafiathesyndicate.com/viewtopic ... start=1800

[Guillotine]

eod is still some time away and there's time for ppl to come and post more, and hopefully post normally

but im not opposed to chopping any one of the people who hasnt given too much normal and readable opinions. as in, understandable. or any opinions at all

i dont think town wins if there's too many of players like that alive at mid game

I'd prefer Zenon over Seanzie in this moment. Zenon is bragging about providing content but the vast majority of it is superfluous.

Seanzie basically looked at the thread and said "fuck this."

I can empathize a little with the latter. I have no tolerance for the former.

Lmfao I'm so sick of people acting like I do nothing because I use mafia as a way to make friends and chat in between actually playing the game.

I could quote every post I've made with actual game content in it but I'm lazy your treating me exactly as wolfs often try to in order to diminish my input and volume because discrediting high posters is an important tactic when wolfing.

Of course nobody will listen when I'm dead

While building my case i found this.

The way Zenon responded to Epignosis was too closely emotional to be an interaction with another wolf.

[DrWilgy]

@Zenon come back.

Where did everyone go??

I went to cook dinner. Some gochujang chicken and enoki over rice. Was good.

[Guillotine]

I'm just here to talk to Rem and hate myself at this point

Why do you hate yourself?

Because my play at EoD was shit I mean ultimately I think you are also town but I don't know what to do in that situation because I also thought Tutuu was town but I will always try to prevent Rands

At least this shows consistency in her philosophy to prevent rands

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

A quick read of Sean shows Epi, Guillo and pyxxy.

I trust zenon and I respect Sean's play, like a lot. So I'm sticking with guillo.

I'm scared of hammer but I'm there in spirit?

if you're bored, you can read your slot's opinions on Guillo, which was a townread

Hammers are based

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Epi looks to be partnered if Neon flips red

is it really that easy sometimes?

Why the need to untie the wagons? Why not vote Epi if she's been TR Rem at that point? What kind of interactions does she have w/ Epi?




Yeah, sometimes it is that easy

Rand is anti town

[falcon45ca]

like looking at EOD

why doesn't Epi just stick on Rem and Zenon finds any other excuse to vote elsewhere

Was Epi around at EOD? Wolves often feel more of a need to build a case, and I'm not sure what, if any, interactions he had w/ Rem

EOD is only one page, just read this

https://mafiathesyndicate.com/viewtopic ... start=1800

I read til I saw Epi vote Neon for 3 seconds then go back to Rem.




Super hi partner equity IMO

[DrWilgy]

If it's really best for me to be removed from PoE:

Legacy
Falcon, Guillo, Pyx, Zenon town

Seanzie seems like frustrated town

Epi doesn't seem in likeness to W meta

Robyn and Rem seem wolfy but Zenon says no so w/e.

And I only say this because it seems a lot of people I tr just think I'm wolf, so this must be the way.

So right now your best guess at a wolf team is Robyn/Rem? Or something else?

I'd think at least one in Robyn/Rem. The team works, but is Zenon really wrong in both? Probably not.

The teammate would be some area where I have misread. I.e. epi actually being in scum range or your frustrated wolf looks just like frustrated town.

I'd say possibly wrong on you/epi then Guillo/Pyxxy but I really don't think I'm wrong in Falc/Zenon

Is there any reason you seem to want Robyn a lot more than Rem?

@DrWilgy it looks like your position must have changed a lot since then. It's now known neither Rem nor Robyn were wolf, so who does that leave in your POE?

lmao @w!kate here, current position and thinkin:
I think solving you/Epi should be priority right now.

Epi I tr'd on meta but that's waning as the game continues.

Your predecessor was wolfy in general, but I'll let you cook.

I think this is T Zenon, but I do not trust their reads.

Pyx, Guillo, and Falcon all seem townspewed.

[DrWilgy]

@DrWilgy will you join me?

Not on that wagon. At least not without REALLY good reason lol.

Guillo has been leaking towny entitlement for 2 cycles now.

[DrWilgy]

Wilgy and pyxxy youre seriously voting no vote on day 3 with no wolves uncovered??

Aye, I don't want to end the day early. Like I said, cook abit and we'll go from there.

[DrWilgy]

eod is still some time away and there's time for ppl to come and post more, and hopefully post normally

but im not opposed to chopping any one of the people who hasnt given too much normal and readable opinions. as in, understandable. or any opinions at all

i dont think town wins if there's too many of players like that alive at mid game

I'd prefer Zenon over Seanzie in this moment. Zenon is bragging about providing content but the vast majority of it is superfluous.

Seanzie basically looked at the thread and said "fuck this."

I can empathize a little with the latter. I have no tolerance for the former.

Lmfao I'm so sick of people acting like I do nothing because I use mafia as a way to make friends and chat in between actually playing the game.

I could quote every post I've made with actual game content in it but I'm lazy your treating me exactly as wolfs often try to in order to diminish my input and volume because discrediting high posters is an important tactic when wolfing.

Of course nobody will listen when I'm dead

While building my case i found this.

The way Zenon responded to Epignosis was too closely emotional to be an interaction with another wolf.

To be fair, I don't think the emotion between Zenon and a potential teammate should be discrediting of W/W.

Spoiler below from when Zenon and I were W/W:

Spoiler: show

I've explained this 48 times but I'll do it again.

If I don't TR you than I am considering you a potential threat to town so saying "give me a reason to TR you" is pretty in character no?

You never did though.

And again my argument of 'I play like x' is not an excuse for what I may perceive as scummy behavior.

By your own admission here you are stating the progression was
'Wilgy said he sees something scummy in my play'
'I call him a threat to town'
'How could he possibly see me calling him a threat to town after him seeing something scummy OMGUS'

That is so unbelievably not what I've said at all. But I'm used to you lying about my slot now and it's frustrating as fuck.

[DrWilgy]

Epi looks to be partnered if Neon flips red

is it really that easy sometimes?

Why the need to untie the wagons? Why not vote Epi if she's been TR Rem at that point? What kind of interactions does she have w/ Epi?




Yeah, sometimes it is that easy

Rand is anti town

Rand is strictly not anti town if you enable a 50/50 between a w and t where it was just a t going over previously though...

[DrWilgy]

[VOTE: Epi] aubergine

this vote possesses 43.5% accuracy and 0.0002% lick.

[Guillotine]

Why is Zenon Scum: Betraying Rem

The following are all the quotes were Zenon brazenly defended Rem and called her town.
You can see that even in the last minutes of EoD2 she was defending Rem and trying to prevent her elimination.

You don't have to read all the quotes, it is a lot, but if you skim you will be able to see that she was always calling Rem town and treating her like town. Even in one post Zenon said that that she knew Rem was town.

Spoiler: show

I suppose I should also play the game for real

Robyn
Rem
Wilgy

Lock town

Oh yeah the game

Ha ha ha hahaha

Town
Zenon
wilgy bulgy
Cape

Sus
Epi
Tutturuuu

Rest idk

Wanna mason?

Town

Cape90
Epi
Seanzie
Zenon

PoE

Tutuu
Wilgy
Falcon
Pyxx or whstever

Good night

It happens so often to me that people forget to put me on their read lists tat I shouldn't be surprised, but it's always funny to see

Hold on let me make a read list

Rem Tier
Rem

Town Lock
Rem
Rem
Rem

Town
Rem
Rem

Scum
Everyone else including me

Would you mind attempting the Rem Challenge?

yes, sorry. i want to win, but not at the cost of my sanity

You earlier asked me to run multiple D1 ISOs to get caught up. I'm asking for one. I don't want anyone to sacrifice their mental health, but I don't think my ask does that.

i asked you to iso people who have had like 40-50 game relevant posts. i warned you to ignore zenon and rem's posts

ur asking me to specifically look thru shitposting to confirm ur count of 10 game relevant points. this is unimportant sean. i believe u that u counted 10. there is no value in me putting in the effort to confirm there's 10 or if there's 2 more or less

There's more than 10. Also Rem is town.

Let's talk about Rem both as I know her and like as I've experienced her.

I've played with Rem a number of times. The ones that always stick out to me are Mafia League, our first game together, The game that shan't be named and another one that I won't elaborate on.

I'm not fact checking myself but in all these games Rem was town.

In our first game together Rem was playing traditional mafia. Me and her got into it pretty badly. We did not agree on anything big sadness and we got into some pretty heated discussions. I think eventually we found each other but I've mostly forgotten what happened.

However in mafia league the game I remember the most was our 2nd game together where the first thing I did was asked Rem to mason with me before I even had a read there because I wanted to be friends xD but also I quickly realized she was town because she simply did not care about looking town and she did nor try to play the way town wanted her to play and she was getting hard pushed for it and I yelled at people that they were being dumb so did Schweppes he died eventually they wagoned Rem even as I told them she was obv town she self hammered flipped town. I lost my mason. Like if dis make you cry every time

In the game that shan't be named a similar trend as she didn't care to appear towny and was gimmicking I found her town some bullshit happened blah blah.

Anyways a trend for town Rem. She doesn't care about looking towny. She gets scum read for it unless you analyze her game play deeper. She doesn't like towning and expresses that. She sometimes plays as if she doesn't care about the game probably because she'd rather be wolf BUT even when she's doing that she will play the game she will put out reads. Sometimes you have to look for them. In the game that shan't be named she was gimmick posting but I was able to understand that she was calling certain content wolfy or towny even as others exclaimed she was doing nothing. She was in fact playing the game.

So. How did I arrive at a town read here.

Well one the sincerity of her posting yesterday night when she said that she randed town wasn't excited saw me and got more excited to play. Her entrance and approach to the early game confirms to me that this was real especially how he first post when she realized I was in this game read.

2. She explained that she was drunk on happiness and when I talked to her about that she once again expressed that this game seemed like it was going to be fun which felt sincere and pure to me.

3. She's vibing in thread with me but she is still providing game related content while doing that. This vibes with my understanding of how Rem plays as town as someone who doesn't like towning.

Rem is super towny if she was wolf I think she'd still vibe with me because we are friends but I think she'd be far more invested in the game because she loves wolfing and as far as I'm aware is proud of her wolf game. This is town "I don't give a fuck because I randed town" Rem who's gonna get wrongly pushed because people don't look deep enough at how she's playing.

Let's talk about Rem both as I know her and like as I've experienced her.

I've played with Rem a number of times. The ones that always stick out to me are Mafia League, our first game together, The game that shan't be named and another one that I won't elaborate on.

I'm not fact checking myself but in all these games Rem was town.

In our first game together Rem was playing traditional mafia. Me and her got into it pretty badly. We did not agree on anything big sadness and we got into some pretty heated discussions. I think eventually we found each other but I've mostly forgotten what happened.

However in mafia league the game I remember the most was our 2nd game together where the first thing I did was asked Rem to mason with me before I even had a read there because I wanted to be friends xD but also I quickly realized she was town because she simply did not care about looking town and she did nor try to play the way town wanted her to play and she was getting hard pushed for it and I yelled at people that they were being dumb so did Schweppes he died eventually they wagoned Rem even as I told them she was obv town she self hammered flipped town. I lost my mason. Like if dis make you cry every time

In the game that shan't be named a similar trend as she didn't care to appear towny and was gimmicking I found her town some bullshit happened blah blah.

Anyways a trend for town Rem. She doesn't care about looking towny. She gets scum read for it unless you analyze her game play deeper. She doesn't like towning and expresses that. She sometimes plays as if she doesn't care about the game probably because she'd rather be wolf BUT even when she's doing that she will play the game she will put out reads. Sometimes you have to look for them. In the game that shan't be named she was gimmick posting but I was able to understand that she was calling certain content wolfy or towny even as others exclaimed she was doing nothing. She was in fact playing the game.

So. How did I arrive at a town read here.

Well one the sincerity of her posting yesterday night when she said that she randed town wasn't excited saw me and got more excited to play. Her entrance and approach to the early game confirms to me that this was real especially how he first post when she realized I was in this game read.

2. She explained that she was drunk on happiness and when I talked to her about that she once again expressed that this game seemed like it was going to be fun which felt sincere and pure to me.

3. She's vibing in thread with me but she is still providing game related content while doing that. This vibes with my understanding of how Rem plays as town as someone who doesn't like towning.

Rem is super towny if she was wolf I think she'd still vibe with me because we are friends but I think she'd be far more invested in the game because she loves wolfing and as far as I'm aware is proud of her wolf game. This is town "I don't give a fuck because I randed town" Rem who's gonna get wrongly pushed because people don't look deep enough at how she's playing.

Also she's cute and I <3 her and she's my favorite person to play with. And talking to her in this thread has made me extremely happy and this is the most I've enjoyed a mafia game in a while. She's my fwen.

Does that make her town? Yes

I like to try to do these like once per phase but I kinda forget sometimes.

But I remembered here and now so have some patent pending unfiltered thoughts from ☆ Zenon ☆ (for now because I change my name like once a year)

Look at all these beautiful names so many pretty players.



I love you all so much and you are all wonderful keep being awesome keep playing hard we got this uwu let's go town.

Menhara Chan will serve as the vibe teller

Cape90 -

Cape has been a lightning rod for conflict and I think that's towny. I think the back and forth on cape being wolfy or towny is probably town indicative especially because like I find the reason for the initial push towards cape to be pretty mediocre. It had something to do with bowling I think like wut? Okay admittedly I was too enamored with talking about cute anime girls with Rem to pay that much attention but like meh.

Outside that Cape is solving/ active in thread questioning things and looking deeper. Towny town.

DrWilgy -

Oh friendly neighborhood doctor. Your gimmick posting could be a mask to hide your wolfy persona no? I mean I town read it at first but like the more I think about it the more I'm like meh Wilgy is okay but there's not much there. I mean like I can read your reads through your gimmick but like it's just a lot of numbers that I feel like don't mean a lot when I think about what you are actually saying. Your play is just like okay.

Epignosis -

You big scary powerwolf trying to find a push to power through that will stick. Your about face on robyn early just didn't read genuine. Your push onto Cape felt lazy and opportunistic the more I think about it. Your push on me is flawed based on untrue statements and now that others have realized I am town I expect you to upon your return pivot to another town to try to plow over them.

falcon45ca -

At first I was like oh look falcon is town right cause like lots effort falcon is probs town except like is it? Because like he vote parked on a town and left lol

Guillotine-

At first I was like oh Guillo is try harding pushing for content trying to read things this is good yes. But the derp felt fake and I'm becoming increasingly concerned. I'm still gonna town read him for now because the solving feels genuine but anxiously.

pyxxy -

Oh Pyxxy wyxxy. Why you so not here. Come play with me uwu. Scummy scummy pyxxy wyxxy. I just wanna play. UwU.

Rem -

This is actual footage of me every single time I get a notification that there's a new reply in this thread and it's not Rem.

Rem is town. She is cute. Too cute to be evil. But like for reals I know people don't like making reads like this but it's important to understand how purity and tone matter. Her posts around me at the very beginning of this game were real they were not fake they were honest and open. In my opinion. If that's true than she was excited to play with me even after randing town which she doesn't like playing. I believe this. Also she's been a positive and enjoyable presence and makes me happy. Talking about non game related things doesn't make someone wolfy and it also doesn't void the content that exists which you can read into and is good.



Rem is also cooler than everyone so she gets 2 menhara vibe gifs

robyn - I was super duper excited to play with robyn again for the first time in months cause Robyn is one of my favorite friends in mafia. The lack of robyn in my game is sad. I do think that she tried to quickly pull the thread out of RVS and that was towny. I do think that how she was approaching Tutuus read on her felt genuinely inquisitive and towny especially questioning the flips on reads. But I'm scared about being wrong on Robyn.

Seanzie -

I was like oh look at Seanzie he doesn't care he's town he'll come back and solve than he came backed and solved and I was like oh look at Seanzie he's solving the game that's town but like I'm getting wary about the way he's solving it feels off. It feels wrong. I still lean town but I'm getting nervous. Bleh.

tutuu -

The drastic change in style feels wolfy. The constant fear of committing to a read and believing it feels like keeping all options open. The unwillingness to answer questions while trying to change the culture feels weird. The play feels like a wolf who forgot how to wolf. But than I real time with Tutuu and I feel like... fuck Tutuu feels genuine and I don't want to miskill tutuu but aaaaaa I dunno.

Zenon -

There's a really easy way to read me

It's all about emotion. I play emotionally. I'm not gonna tell you what it is but there is a gigantic difference between my emotion as town vs as scum.


Alright I hate this because I normally make snap reads and commit to them and use that as a jumping off point but I'm confident on exactly two reads which is making me question just about every other player in the game which is making me excessively anxious and making me doubt myself which is dangerous for me.

The tier list looks like this

I would travel to an abandoned island and trust them with my life

Rem
Zenon
Cape

I would watch my backpack while they are around but like not too closely

Robyn
Sean
Guillo
Wilgy

I would run away from them if we crash landed together on an island

Everyone else



God I hate myself

Let's get back to winning everyone

reads:

zenon

rest

yeah thats right bitch. ion give a fuck. zenon is the only one i trust

i could have been pocketed by epi and/or wilgy. i wouldnt bet the game on my townreads on them, not feeling confident. i thought pyxxy as wolf would be posting more but this might be a dumb read. i have no clue what to think of sean it felt to me like he snorts a line before every post he makes

so my legacy if im the d1 chop is to sheep zenon tomorrow. if she dies n1 - tough luck. but its your guys's problem, not mine

good luck you all, and i do appreciate that this has been a generally more active game compared to most games we have. even if we mischop some villagers i dont feel like we're doomed, i feel like the remaining townies might be able to solve it, plenty of content itt. godspeed

Alright so Tutuu is lock town for this post and I'm moving on lol.

This is normal town Tutuu the town Tutuu I love to play with. This is what I want. Fuck.

Tier of her own

Rem

Town lock

Zenon
Cape
Tutuu

Sheep this I'm rarely wrong on more than one lock town read.

Rem help me I dunno what to do

In which way?

-oh they are more engaged and stuff

But what does it mean?

-it means he probably was busy yesterday and the day before because normal people are busy until saturday night

So not alignment indicative?

-townie would be accurate

Yeah that sounds good but we already tr seanzie yesterday

-yes but that was a hunch, this is actual gameplay analysis

Oh ok, is that what evolving reads are?

-yeah exactly

Prior to this post, how was I more engaged D2 than D1?

If you chalk up my D1 to me being busy IRL, why would that be townie?

What gameplay are you analyzing for this? Activitiy patterns? How about my reads and pushes?

Dude i'm just talking to myself

Anything you post in the thread is fair game for others to scrutinize.

Could you please answer my questions?

Nope

Elim this please.

Why the response is towny as fuck lol

[VOTE: Epi] aubergine

Rem still needs way more attention as well IMO. Does anyone other than Zenon townread them?

You should listen to me though... really

Can you explain your Rem townread? I will listen to what you say and take it into account.

It's really simple right.

Rem. Is being honest and pure. She doesn't give a fuck about appearing towny because she doesn't give a fuck about dying because she doesn't value her life because she is town.

Towns don't value their lives scum do. Town don't care about appearing towny to minimize their chance of being voted scum do but this is especially true of Rem because she hates playing town so she REALLY doesn't give a fuck about being towny.

With that said she will still try to help town shell throw out a read she'll tell you what she sees and she's damn good at it to but most of the game will ignore it because she's not gonna try to put together a 30 page thesis on her reads so she'll get ignored by all of you except like me probably I'd we are honest.

If you do pay attention you'll ask her to do something which she won't want to do because she's town and she's trying to be helpful but like she's not gonna go dive isos to prove a point like I'm not either fuck that so than you'll paint her as being uncooperative cause she's scum but really what you are painting as scummy motivation is also just fucking towny.

Rem was excited early on because me and her were fucking around she rolled town but hanging out in thread with someone bullshitting made her happy and she stated such. As the thread has turned more serious and people have butchered us for having fun in a mafia game and I've become more serious myself her activity has dropped off and she's been less interested this also follows my logic and belief that her genuine feelings were that she rolled town that sucks but she saw me and was happy and now that's faded.

Now to be honest I want to just hang out with Rem in thread and talk about Oppenheimer and Gacha and anime and not get crucified for it cause that was also fun for me and I can play the game around that. And we can't talk on discord during the game though I hope my inbox gets flooded after the game lol.I'm bored and my investment level has dropped lol.

But Rem is town and killing her wastes a day.

@Zenon

Im hating that you decided to vote me when i decided to support pressure on Rem, when just a few hours ago you were ok with sheeping me on Epignosis.

You called us having a skill issue in reading Rem not that we were scummy for it, you said that you think im town but because Rem is getting pressure and she is the friend you love to play with then you are willing to vote out a townread over her, whom you townread for NAI reasons.

And the worst part is that i actually townread it because i doubt you are not self conscious to know how bad it looks Neon, i also dont think you are paired because what wolf team makes a defense like yours so obvious and risk getting executed back to back.

Well it's not NAI and I have literally correctly read Rem in every single game I've played with her even as town had in most of them voted her out and killed her despite this

To insinuate that I'm just town reading sometime and playing in any way around a friendship is insulting but I digress

Anyways yes I voted you to tie the wagons

@Zenon

Im hating that you decided to vote me when i decided to support pressure on Rem, when just a few hours ago you were ok with sheeping me on Epignosis.

You called us having a skill issue in reading Rem not that we were scummy for it, you said that you think im town but because Rem is getting pressure and she is the friend you love to play with then you are willing to vote out a townread over her, whom you townread for NAI reasons.

And the worst part is that i actually townread it because i doubt you are not self conscious to know how bad it looks Neon, i also dont think you are paired because what wolf team makes a defense like yours so obvious and risk getting executed back to back.

Well it's not NAI and I have literally correctly read Rem in every single game I've played with her even as town had in most of them voted her out and killed her despite this

To insinuate that I'm just town reading sometime and playing in any way around a friendship is insulting but I digress

Anyways yes I voted you to tie the wagons

It is exactly how you are playing this so i dont care if the truth is offensive to you.

It is NAI, things like “she was enjoying her time when we were not serious.”
Everyone literally enjoys the RvS stage.

And then “she lost interest when things got serious like i did.”
Both a townie and a wolf can display such behavior, it is NAI.

So show me please the reads from her that you claim are village indicative, i actually wanna see that you believe this now.

No it's not true. It's just another in a long list of mafia players running the same tired tropes about my game play that I've proven wrong time and time again trying to say I'm reading in to nothing when my read accuracy is greater than fucking rand

Rem is fucking town
You are trying to kill a town
You think I'm reading into nothing but I assure you I am not

Im done here, im done trying to solve this and prove my worth with actual reads and actual solve only to get tied and remain a top wagon just to protect someone because they enjoy playing with them.

Get real, tag me when you are ready to play mafia.

Good night

I am playing the game. Don't really care if you don't like how I play my read is correct so

I'm not gonna feel bad for making a read I believe in and trust that I am 90% sure will be right

And for voting to protect my top town

And I'm not gonna apologize because you don't like it

And I'm really not gonna stand here and let my name be drug through the mud because people are incapable of understanding that I can make a read on someone I like and vote to protect them without the reason being that I like them

@Zenon

Im hating that you decided to vote me when i decided to support pressure on Rem, when just a few hours ago you were ok with sheeping me on Epignosis.

You called us having a skill issue in reading Rem not that we were scummy for it, you said that you think im town but because Rem is getting pressure and she is the friend you love to play with then you are willing to vote out a townread over her, whom you townread for NAI reasons.

And the worst part is that i actually townread it because i doubt you are not self conscious to know how bad it looks Neon, i also dont think you are paired because what wolf team makes a defense like yours so obvious and risk getting executed back to back.

Well it's not NAI and I have literally correctly read Rem in every single game I've played with her even as town had in most of them voted her out and killed her despite this

To insinuate that I'm just town reading sometime and playing in any way around a friendship is insulting but I digress

Anyways yes I voted you to tie the wagons

Ok. I apologize for accusing you of defending Rem based on friendship.

I still disagree the townread but I can see that you believe in it.

That said, can you give us links to town games where you correctly townread her please?

Just to have peace of mind you are not faking this (even though I don't believe you are).

Yes

https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/threads/39434

https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/threads/40542

https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/threads/39680

I'll never forget you Rem you'll always be my favorite best friend don't tell the others

I'll keep it a secret m'lady

-Rem are you worried Zenon might be pocketing?

Nope i don't mind

-k just checking

:3

I'd never pocket you.

Okay I would that's a lie

But I'm not pocketing you right now.

I'm just an overly clingy friend who you'll get sick of eventually

Weird, if you were willing to consider Cape's legacy on me and Zenon, why did you park your vote one me for more than 24 hours?

Weird, I can drop a randy vote at start of phase prior to reading Cape's legacy on you and Zenon and leave it there for 24 hours because I wasn't around?

No, not really, you can just not drop a vote at all if you are not gonna be around for 24 hours.

Nah

Yah

What is your read on Rem, Pyxxy and Robyn?

Rem is too fluffy, I'd like to trust Zenon but feel that I'm unable to do so fully. Would yeet.

Pyxxy is just wolfy this game.

Robyn is also wolfy this game. They were the first to try to draw attention to the weirdness of the nk this cyle, like almost immediately, and have been almost completely mia at the same time.

Fluff isn't AI and the fact that the only actual reason to push Rem is that she's fluff posted with me is pretty weh weh and should be ringing alarm bells.

There is zero wolfy play to push Rem on. People are pushing her for not playing the game the way they want her to not for playing the game wolfy.

Wanna kill a fluff poster kill me. This is so fucking dumb.

I'm not reevaluating I'm right

I don't believe you believe this.

You know for a fucking fact I believe this

You don't have confidence in your scumreads, you've never caught me as wolf, and yet you confidently think I'm scum now?

That's not what I was saying I wouldn't reeval lom

I don't believe you believe you're right. That's what I was saying.

I do believe I'm right

Robyn is town
Rem is town

I believe that and I will not reeval

Get the flying fuck off Rem

@Rem please don't die I need you here... for my sanity

Everyone is being so depresso

Plsss I know you're town

Like rem's only post this EoD hasn't been to self pres or fight her wagon its been to defends me against my wagon

That's not wolfy

Now the following posts are all of the interactions with Epignosis calling him scum or that she suspected Epignosis.
Notice that the inverse was happening in the last minutes of EoD, where she was calling Epignosis scum.

Spoiler: show

Epignosis

You big scary powerwolf trying to find a push to power through that will stick. Your about face on robyn early just didn't read genuine. Your push onto Cape felt lazy and opportunistic the more I think about it. Your push on me is flawed based on untrue statements and now that others have realized I am town I expect you to upon your return pivot to another town to try to plow over them.

Tu madre

If I push the me v Tutuu thunderdome, who will you support atm?

You. But that gap is increasingly smaller.

Good. Vote Tutuu.

Naw I like my vote

Your vote is on me. Why do you like it?

It was on epi at the time

[VOTE: Epi] aubergine

Rem still needs way more attention as well IMO. Does anyone other than Zenon townread them?

Still not reading Zenon's posts.

The last person who refuses to read my posts was a wolf

Like for example im paranoid about Zenon who is voting with me after i voiced a possible association with Epi with her. Questions come into mind such as:

Why is she sheeping me on Epi now?
Is this scum!Zenon trying to distance from Epi?
Or, is this town!Zenon who realized she is being set up by scum!Epi and voted there to kill that association.

Zenon is your teammate who saved you Day 1.

There's your answer.

Lmao

Epi/Guillo is t/t. Discuss.

Press X

@Zenon @Guillotine care for a Wilgy wagon?

Wilgy and Epi are both fine by me

Epi scum bet bet

this zenon wagon is cringe

[VOTE: Rem] aubergine

Lol

Vote Epi

[VOTE: Zenon] aubergine

Now you can have your precious non-depressing personal chat with your friend Rem.

See ya.

Rude as fuck but towny

And yet, she ended up voting Rem. No progression, no reason, just a straight up last second snipe to kill Rem.

[Guillotine]

eod is still some time away and there's time for ppl to come and post more, and hopefully post normally

but im not opposed to chopping any one of the people who hasnt given too much normal and readable opinions. as in, understandable. or any opinions at all

i dont think town wins if there's too many of players like that alive at mid game

I'd prefer Zenon over Seanzie in this moment. Zenon is bragging about providing content but the vast majority of it is superfluous.

Seanzie basically looked at the thread and said "fuck this."

I can empathize a little with the latter. I have no tolerance for the former.

Lmfao I'm so sick of people acting like I do nothing because I use mafia as a way to make friends and chat in between actually playing the game.

I could quote every post I've made with actual game content in it but I'm lazy your treating me exactly as wolfs often try to in order to diminish my input and volume because discrediting high posters is an important tactic when wolfing.

Of course nobody will listen when I'm dead

While building my case i found this.

The way Zenon responded to Epignosis was too closely emotional to be an interaction with another wolf.

To be fair, I don't think the emotion between Zenon and a potential teammate should be discrediting of W/W.

Spoiler below from when Zenon and I were W/W:

Spoiler: show

I've explained this 48 times but I'll do it again.

If I don't TR you than I am considering you a potential threat to town so saying "give me a reason to TR you" is pretty in character no?

You never did though.

And again my argument of 'I play like x' is not an excuse for what I may perceive as scummy behavior.

By your own admission here you are stating the progression was
'Wilgy said he sees something scummy in my play'
'I call him a threat to town'
'How could he possibly see me calling him a threat to town after him seeing something scummy OMGUS'

That is so unbelievably not what I've said at all. But I'm used to you lying about my slot now and it's frustrating as fuck.

Well in my experience no wolves distance from each other emotionally because there is no emotion as they know they are faking it but I guess Zenon can fake it.

[Guillotine]

I hope you guys at least read my case for Zenon because her ISO is a pain in the ass to read. Don't have me work for nothing.

[Guillotine]

And my case has not ended, there is more to cum

[Guillotine]

I meant come geezus christ

[Kate]

like looking at EOD

why doesn't Epi just stick on Rem and Zenon finds any other excuse to vote elsewhere

Was Epi around at EOD? Wolves often feel more of a need to build a case, and I'm not sure what, if any, interactions he had w/ Rem

EOD is only one page, just read this

https://mafiathesyndicate.com/viewtopic ... start=1800

I read til I saw Epi vote Neon for 3 seconds then go back to Rem.




Super hi partner equity IMO

Neon is civ. Like I'm sure.

[Kate]

Wilgy and pyxxy youre seriously voting no vote on day 3 with no wolves uncovered??

Aye, I don't want to end the day early. Like I said, cook abit and we'll go from there.

Ok fair enough, I'll pull more tomorrow.

[Epignosis]

Mafia fucked up by killing Seanzie.

Reason why is I was going to fuck Seanzie up for them.

[Kate]

Mafia fucked up by killing Seanzie.

Reason why is I was going to fuck Seanzie up for them.

If youre town, and I think you might be, we need to gather and rally. Lynching zenon is a big mistake. How many mislynches do we have left?

[Epignosis]

Mafia fucked up by killing Seanzie.

Reason why is I was going to fuck Seanzie up for them.

If youre town, and I think you might be, we need to gather and rally. Lynching zenon is a big mistake. How many mislynches do we have left?

Who'd you replace? I'm still four pages behind.

[Epignosis]

There's no room for error by my count.

[Epignosis]

I don't think Zenon is mafia because if Zenon was playing optimally (big if), then staying on me would have kept Rem alive and I would have died.

[Kate]

Mafia fucked up by killing Seanzie.

Reason why is I was going to fuck Seanzie up for them.

If youre town, and I think you might be, we need to gather and rally. Lynching zenon is a big mistake. How many mislynches do we have left?

Who'd you replace? I'm still four pages behind.

Robyn.

Well then I hope people will take a leap of faith with me and not vote zenon. She is smack dab in her civ meta.

[Epignosis]

My predication is vote Guillotine but I need to hear people on Guillo.

[falcon45ca]

[VOTE: epi] aubergine

[Epignosis]

Mafia fucked up by killing Seanzie.

Reason why is I was going to fuck Seanzie up for them.

If youre town, and I think you might be, we need to gather and rally. Lynching zenon is a big mistake. How many mislynches do we have left?

Who'd you replace? I'm still four pages behind.

Robyn.

Well then I hope people will take a leap of faith with me and not vote zenon. She is smack dab in her civ meta.

Tell me what you know of Zenon's "civ meta."