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Jay, Neon, & Michelle all prolly town
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@DrWilgy Wherefore art thou?
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I appreciate you having JJJ's back but we have had a history of miselimming bc of my low posting ways and his baddie way of looking town when high posting AND vice versa. I was just reminding him of our past.Wiml wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 10:18 amFtr I don't think JJJ meant this as a slight at all.Roxy wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 10:14 amI would like to point out quite fairly I might add that I will never be a top poster.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 5:38 am If I try to provide a more concrete rainbow that isn't just dichotomized for a POE pool:
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Michelle
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Kate
Epignosis
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Abigail
Wiml
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DrWilgy
Quin
Roxy
Lime Coke
Names are still not ordered within individual colors. In this case, the bottom four form a default "POE pool" that leaves room for one of the names above to drop back in if necessary. I will try not to get too absorbed into this world view (I acknowledge my rationale for each read isn't extremely thorough yet), but it's going to stagnate as long as the thread is dominated by a subset of high-activity posters. That's no slight on the folks that haven't gotten deeply involved yet; I understand time is a limited resource.
Does that mean my reads are less than your bc you have more posts> Uh - nope.
Deeply involved is very subjective and unfair to use as people have lives work insane hours and have to be a YaYa at night.
Nobody in the yellows at the time of that post had posted anything game-related (only 1 person, you, had posted). It's pretty fair to say that those people hadn't yet been deeply involved yet and all he's saying there is that you haven't had the time to play as of then, not that you're a worse player or have less accurate reads.
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Kate wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 5:30 pmI'm town. I'm always town!JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 5:28 pmHey Kate! Cool to finally play a game with you. I can't be certain, but I suspect we might have a decent yin-yang dynamic available to us, you and I. Your style is heavily intuitive, and it's a nice complement to, well, you'll see.
Only applicable if you received a town role.![]()
Come be towny and do the Kate town stuff
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During the day I am a hard assed boss type bitch lmao
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Roxy wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 10:26 amI appreciate you having JJJ's back but we have had a history of miselimming bc of my low posting ways and his baddie way of looking town when high posting AND vice versa. I was just reminding him of our past.Wiml wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 10:18 amFtr I don't think JJJ meant this as a slight at all.Roxy wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 10:14 amI would like to point out quite fairly I might add that I will never be a top poster.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 5:38 am If I try to provide a more concrete rainbow that isn't just dichotomized for a POE pool:
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Michelle
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Kate
Epignosis
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Abigail
Wiml
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DrWilgy
Quin
Roxy
Lime Coke
Names are still not ordered within individual colors. In this case, the bottom four form a default "POE pool" that leaves room for one of the names above to drop back in if necessary. I will try not to get too absorbed into this world view (I acknowledge my rationale for each read isn't extremely thorough yet), but it's going to stagnate as long as the thread is dominated by a subset of high-activity posters. That's no slight on the folks that haven't gotten deeply involved yet; I understand time is a limited resource.
Does that mean my reads are less than your bc you have more posts> Uh - nope.
Deeply involved is very subjective and unfair to use as people have lives work insane hours and have to be a YaYa at night.
Nobody in the yellows at the time of that post had posted anything game-related (only 1 person, you, had posted). It's pretty fair to say that those people hadn't yet been deeply involved yet and all he's saying there is that you haven't had the time to play as of then, not that you're a worse player or have less accurate reads.
What are your first impressions of the game? Are you able to find any players as towny/scummy as of yet?
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ok caught up for now I have a need for a smoke then I have a meeting I'll be around trying to stay caught up.
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@falcon45ca give me a chance to *at least* catch a break at work I'll try and respond during the meeting <3
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So's Mary Poppins, 'cept she uses a spoonful of sugar.
If I have less resistance during the day, I have more energy for Batman/Baba Yaga at night
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Fwiw I can assure you that I have no plans of going into people's past games and pushing stuff like "oh Roxy posted 20 times on D1 last time she was town and this time she only posted 19 times so she's mafia" or similar less exaggerated variations of that.Roxy wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 10:23 amI won't do it bc I disagree on playing a meta based game state. You can play by meta if ya want to I never will base my game on them nor can I learn about player just by reading a past game, if you can more power to ya.Wiml wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 9:59 amWhat do you mean? I'm only asking you to link a couple past games of yours, not asking you to play in any specific way.Roxy wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 9:56 amno wtaf? I do not play your way I play my own tyvm <3 I hope you will do the same.Wiml wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 4:14 am If the following people could provide link representative games of the listed alignments like JJJ did earlier then I'd appreciate it greatly:
@DrWilgy - Town
@Epignosis - Mafia
@falcon45ca - Mafia (not the recent one)
@Kate - Mafia
@Quin - Both
@Roxy - Both
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I just want to learn about the people playing in this game who I don't know.
I have played many games on this site. Have fun in the Museum of the Mafioso.
I think getting an understanding of things like playstyle and if a player doing xyz things in a game is alignment indicative or just a personality thing can be pretty important. It's also pretty important for me as a non-regular here to be aware of the meta y'all are using on each other (eg the meta townreads on falcon) so I can actually have an informed opinion both on what they are discussing and if the things they are bringing up are in good faith or not.
Otherwise it's often just pretty rough to work in a lobby where everyone knows each other but most people don't know you.
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I think that's there at max 1 wolf in this list of names.
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And if there's more than one, it's more likely JJJ/x as the team.
I don't think those teams are likely though.
I don't think those teams are likely though.
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What does your read list look like? Do you have a color arrangement a la Jay?
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Not worth doing a rainbow since I'm on mobile and the difference between tiers of my reads is pretty minimal rn.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 10:55 am
What does your read list look like? Do you have a color arrangement a la Jay?
I'm townleaning you, Michelle and to a lesser extent JJJ pending some ISOs.
Abigail I have as more likely town than not as well.
Most of these players (minus JJJ) I'm somewhat happy to write off as town and just keep an eye on for now. I don't think that there's more than 1 wolf in the top 4 posters due to the threadstate and disassociatives between all of them so I'm pretty happy just sitting back and letting them cook even without a super strong set of clears. You I've had as low priority due to being an easier read once you've posted more.
Lime Coke I lean wolf on.
Everyone else is a shrug from me.
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Pa - everyone can clear her early but me. I waiting on a couple of responses rn no idea.
Wilgy - has not posted that i have seen nor remember no idea
Epi - read him as bad so in all likely hood he is town but srsly no idea
falcon - is falc'ing it up too soon to say for sure maybe town
JJJ - seems to be trying too hard, not sure what to make of it in older games when you was all gusto and bluster you was bad it has been a long while so I will not use old time play against you. I want to see you have fun playing bc it has been so long since we have played< 3 reserving judgement for now.
Kate - very early game half joking half serious seems normal for Kate. For Town Kate at least for now I am not getting the same weird vibes like last game when you were town but you read as bad for me.
Limey - I think we have one game we have played together I I have hosted you but really have not a clue how to read you this game is different from Sesame Street and from CyberPunk. So I am left twisting and have no idea.
Michelle - usually an easy read for me bc her town shines bright from a vibe/tone this game I think town
Quin - No posts that I seen nor remember I have no idea
Wiml - also another try harder on the site. I hope I remembered to welcome you. I will not suss you nor vote you D 1. Bc you are new to me and I want you to feel welcomed. I am unsure but I think with a couple of days with your tone you will show yourself one way or the other. No idea as of now.
I do not what you expect @falcon45ca as it is so early in D 1 and I need almost the full first 48 to form my own proper reads.
What about you?
Wilgy - has not posted that i have seen nor remember no idea
Epi - read him as bad so in all likely hood he is town but srsly no idea
falcon - is falc'ing it up too soon to say for sure maybe town
JJJ - seems to be trying too hard, not sure what to make of it in older games when you was all gusto and bluster you was bad it has been a long while so I will not use old time play against you. I want to see you have fun playing bc it has been so long since we have played< 3 reserving judgement for now.
Kate - very early game half joking half serious seems normal for Kate. For Town Kate at least for now I am not getting the same weird vibes like last game when you were town but you read as bad for me.
Limey - I think we have one game we have played together I I have hosted you but really have not a clue how to read you this game is different from Sesame Street and from CyberPunk. So I am left twisting and have no idea.
Michelle - usually an easy read for me bc her town shines bright from a vibe/tone this game I think town
Quin - No posts that I seen nor remember I have no idea
Wiml - also another try harder on the site. I hope I remembered to welcome you. I will not suss you nor vote you D 1. Bc you are new to me and I want you to feel welcomed. I am unsure but I think with a couple of days with your tone you will show yourself one way or the other. No idea as of now.
I do not what you expect @falcon45ca as it is so early in D 1 and I need almost the full first 48 to form my own proper reads.
What about you?
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This is appreciated. Could you possibly go into detail about your Epi read a bit more?Roxy wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 11:50 am Pa - everyone can clear her early but me. I waiting on a couple of responses rn no idea.
Wilgy - has not posted that i have seen nor remember no idea
Epi - read him as bad so in all likely hood he is town but srsly no idea
falcon - is falc'ing it up too soon to say for sure maybe town
JJJ - seems to be trying too hard, not sure what to make of it in older games when you was all gusto and bluster you was bad it has been a long while so I will not use old time play against you. I want to see you have fun playing bc it has been so long since we have played< 3 reserving judgement for now.
Kate - very early game half joking half serious seems normal for Kate. For Town Kate at least for now I am not getting the same weird vibes like last game when you were town but you read as bad for me.
Limey - I think we have one game we have played together I I have hosted you but really have not a clue how to read you this game is different from Sesame Street and from CyberPunk. So I am left twisting and have no idea.
Michelle - usually an easy read for me bc her town shines bright from a vibe/tone this game I think town
Quin - No posts that I seen nor remember I have no idea
Wiml - also another try harder on the site. I hope I remembered to welcome you. I will not suss you nor vote you D 1. Bc you are new to me and I want you to feel welcomed. I am unsure but I think with a couple of days with your tone you will show yourself one way or the other. No idea as of now.
I do not what you expect @falcon45ca as it is so early in D 1 and I need almost the full first 48 to form my own proper reads.
What about you?
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This broadly matches up with my experiences seeing her as a wolf as well ftr.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 2:20 am Mafia Abigail in Hotdog Fingers was a bit of a wet noodle and posted a ton of off-topic silliness. There's a bit more serious business in her initial posts here. It's difficult to draw a good comparison this early though.
This game needs more meat.
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I'd lean town on her atm.
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Good news, I'm finally town (thank God)
Bad news, I got covid and will probably not be around very much. We have any consensus townies for me to sheep this cycle?
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I’m having second thoughts about Kate. Dismissing “90% of big talkers as town” is not exactly an “intuition”, and it’s a read begging for egg on the face. I worry about it being TMI.
@Michelle could you describe what you like most about Kate?
@Michelle could you describe what you like most about Kate?
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Sorry Doc. That is ass.
The most consensus town read might be falcon. Maybe myself. It’s actually a little hard to tell, and we could stand to improve that as a group.
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What did you like about Lime's posts at this point in time?JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 2:41 am I like the general vibe of Lime Coke's posts and think he sounds fine. I hesitate to pull the town trigger, because the falcon vote is like a direct shot into my green pile. That doesn't make him mafia or even wrong, but it's something I have to reconcile.
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I think there's a lack of extremely obvious villagers, yeah.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 12:26 pmSorry Doc. That is ass.
The most consensus town read might be falcon. Maybe myself. It’s actually a little hard to tell, and we could stand to improve that as a group.
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I'm bloody terrified of being wrong yeah but fear will freeze you and that's not a good way to play this.Wiml wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 9:16 amThanks, yeah I noticed it after I posted the question and I feel fine with thinking you could believe that.☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 9:13 amI told JJJ why I thought that was townyWiml wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 8:49 amThis might be partially answered in the question I asked above but if you could please clarify the following:☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 4:23 amSus... but actually probably towny...JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 2:25 amI can understand this perspective, and in an ironic sense the validity in "one of these people is mafia" can be applied to her as much as to you or Wiml. Perhaps there's self-awareness in that.Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 2:22 am My take is the oposite. She came, said a non energetic hi, saw a wagon and hopped in without any other logic behind that it have to contain a wolf and choosing the actual wagon because why not.
1. Wolves need to have to show activity so they will start by supporting any wagon on a townie that it's there.
2. The addition at the so called wagon analysis is so forced, "not me", and psychologically implies manipulative intention.
3. I am sorry you don't observe the pocketing attitude she has while she agrees with your Michelle/ Wiml not aligned.
I am putting my vote down on her and I would do it for any other wagon she would put her vote on as third vote for no reason, but I am doing it with more conviction because I have TMI on my alignament.
[VOTE: Abigail] aubergine
I'll remove my town read on her for now. I don't have much confidence in it.
Meh let's lock that in for the fuck of it
Town Core.
JJJ
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- Why is this towny from JJJ?
- Why are you adding JJJ to your confident towncore so nonchalantly when you've consistently expressed a lack of confidence in your play prior to this point? (p#204 as an example). I know that you put a lot of pride into these sort of reads, are you not concerned about being wrong again on a towncore read?
I can't find the post but I did explain it.
Got a response to my second point?
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In the most basic sense, he seemed loose and engaged. The “vibe” felt fine and unthreatening. It’s a small thing and didn’t move me much even then.Wiml wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 12:26 pmWhat did you like about Lime's posts at this point in time?JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 2:41 am I like the general vibe of Lime Coke's posts and think he sounds fine. I hesitate to pull the town trigger, because the falcon vote is like a direct shot into my green pile. That doesn't make him mafia or even wrong, but it's something I have to reconcile.
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Perhaps a positive remark I can make about Wiml is that he seems to be approaching his read on me with similar caution to my own read on him. That’s a congruent solving mindset.
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@Wiml uh I guess I can detail Epi in that I form reads from vibes and tone. Epi's tone seems different than last game and it bugged me thinking he could be bad but last two times I thought he was bad he was in fact town. The basis of my read.
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@DrWilgy I am so sorry to hear this feel better soon <3 hope you have had a vaccine <3
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Thank you. I'll look at these three slots when I feel up to it.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 12:26 pmSorry Doc. That is ass.
The most consensus town read might be falcon. Maybe myself. It’s actually a little hard to tell, and we could stand to improve that as a group.
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Ty ty. I've been through it twice already and have been vaccinated, I expect my immune system to boot it out of me in another day or two.Roxy wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 12:31 pm @Wiml uh I guess I can detail Epi in that I form reads from vibes and tone. Epi's tone seems different than last game and it bugged me thinking he could be bad but last two times I thought he was bad he was in fact town. The basis of my read.
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I think I am swapping Roxy and Kate in my reads list. Roxy seems town, and I think her concerns about Kate are justified.
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Thanks for answering!Roxy wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 12:31 pm @Wiml uh I guess I can detail Epi in that I form reads from vibes and tone. Epi's tone seems different than last game and it bugged me thinking he could be bad but last two times I thought he was bad he was in fact town. The basis of my read.
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Is there anybody in this lobby that you'd consider yourself to have a good read on?
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no it's way too early to be sure (at least for me) how about you?Wiml wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 12:38 pmThanks for answering!Roxy wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 12:31 pm @Wiml uh I guess I can detail Epi in that I form reads from vibes and tone. Epi's tone seems different than last game and it bugged me thinking he could be bad but last two times I thought he was bad he was in fact town. The basis of my read.
@DrWilgy I am so sorry to hear this feel better soon <3 hope you have had a vaccine <3
Is there anybody in this lobby that you'd consider yourself to have a good read on?
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I'd agree with this. Are you familiar with Roxy's wolf game at all?JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 12:36 pm I think I am swapping Roxy and Kate in my reads list. Roxy seems town, and I think her concerns about Kate are justified.
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Not particularly. I don’t believe we’ve played together since 2017ish or earlier.Wiml wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 12:39 pmI'd agree with this. Are you familiar with Roxy's wolf game at all?JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 12:36 pm I think I am swapping Roxy and Kate in my reads list. Roxy seems town, and I think her concerns about Kate are justified.
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Get well soon DrW!DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 12:33 pmTy ty. I've been through it twice already and have been vaccinated, I expect my immune system to boot it out of me in another day or two.Roxy wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 12:31 pm @Wiml uh I guess I can detail Epi in that I form reads from vibes and tone. Epi's tone seems different than last game and it bugged me thinking he could be bad but last two times I thought he was bad he was in fact town. The basis of my read.
@DrWilgy I am so sorry to hear this feel better soon <3 hope you have had a vaccine <3
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you are creeping me out I do not mean this in a mean or perverse way. It's your flip flopping I had forgotten about it - until nowJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 12:36 pm I think I am swapping Roxy and Kate in my reads list. Roxy seems town, and I think her concerns about Kate are justified.

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She seemed relaxed in her posts, but I have to reread them.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 12:23 pm I’m having second thoughts about Kate. Dismissing “90% of big talkers as town” is not exactly an “intuition”, and it’s a read begging for egg on the face. I worry about it being TMI.
@Michelle could you describe what you like most about Kate?
Also I kind of liked the idea of civvies Sod banter, someone reading town so many players has a harder time to backtrack later in the game and wolves usually avoid that
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I’m definitely happy to flip and flop!Roxy wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 12:43 pmyou are creeping me out I do not mean this in a mean or perverse way. It's your flip flopping I had forgotten about it - until nowJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 12:36 pm I think I am swapping Roxy and Kate in my reads list. Roxy seems town, and I think her concerns about Kate are justified.![]()

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There's nobody in this playerlist that I'd be shocked if they flipped against my reads rn but there's a few players who I'd be impressed with if they pulled off this strong of an entrance as mafia (falcon and Michelle come to mind).Roxy wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 12:39 pmno it's way too early to be sure (at least for me) how about you?Wiml wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 12:38 pmThanks for answering!Roxy wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 12:31 pm @Wiml uh I guess I can detail Epi in that I form reads from vibes and tone. Epi's tone seems different than last game and it bugged me thinking he could be bad but last two times I thought he was bad he was in fact town. The basis of my read.
@DrWilgy I am so sorry to hear this feel better soon <3 hope you have had a vaccine <3
Is there anybody in this lobby that you'd consider yourself to have a good read on?
Over time I'm hoping to be able to read Lime Coke and Abigail well in particular and will probably try to focus on trying to find villagers in the less active / busier players.
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Just want to make a note that I read and appreciate all answers to my questions but I'm not going to respond to them unless I have something to add or ask further just to avoid contributing to thread bloat and making it harder for the lower posters to catch up.
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@DrWilgy I know it sucks playing while ill, prioritise taking care of yourself first!!!
I'm happy just assuming you're a villager and giving you space for now tbh.
I'm happy just assuming you're a villager and giving you space for now tbh.
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Aye, I'd just assume I'm an unknown though because I am.
I skimmed Falc and I agree this is T Falcon quite confidently. While I haven't seen LC's posts, I can believe T fal believes what he saw there and would be willing to sheep that so far.
Will nap and do some other thinking later.
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@Epignosis I'd appreciate if you could go into more detail about what exactly you think is fake about Abigail's post and why you think that it's wolf indicative from her.Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 10:11 pmI don't believe you interpreted JJJ's statement this way.☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 7:40 pmWait... this is the last game your ever playing?JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 4:58 pm To the best of my memory, this is the first time I have been a civilian in a Syndicate game since 2021. I am probably going to be my worstbest self and play at full throttle, as though this is the last chance I will ever have to solve a Mafia game.
Come friends, and let us make mincemeat of malevolent mountainous mafia.
Fake entrance.
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I know Michelle has given reasons but yours seem different to hers.