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Wiml wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 4:14 am
If the following people could provide link representative games of the listed alignments like JJJ did earlier then I'd appreciate it greatly:
@DrWilgy - Town
@Epignosis - Mafia
@falcon45ca - Mafia (not the recent one)
@Kate - Mafia
@Quin - Both
@Roxy - Both
Sorry for the mass ping!
In the last year, I've been mafia 3 times. Once I was very sick with covid and barely remember the game (felt) the other 2 I was a lone wolf (scooby doo and se7en). Which one would you like to see?
@JaggedJimmyJay
Kate seemed to consider it as being mafia here which is why I looked into the game for an extra sample. I haven't actually read the game myself atm.
I do think being uninformed is a completely different beast. It's a lot easier to post when you have no clue.
Anyway, it's not worth dwelling on at this point. Kate is in my POE regardless of volume. I am considering Kate/Abigail as a difference check now (insert obligatory "or some softer version of that term").
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JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 5:54 pm
I do think being uninformed is a completely different beast. It's a lot easier to post when you have no clue.
Anyway, it's not worth dwelling on at this point. Kate is in my POE regardless of volume. I am considering Kate/Abigail as a difference check now (insert obligatory "or some softer version of that term").
I'd be interested in hearing your difference check read if you're up for explaining it?
Wiml wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 5:57 pm
I'd be interested in hearing your difference check read if you're up for explaining it?
Sure. It's not especially concrete, it's just a possible solution that fits nicely into the world I have imagined to this point. Kate is in my POE pool, and Abigail kind of hovers just outside it. Kate's recent assertive comment about Abigail being "too coherent" followed by a poll-tying vote doesn't strike me as the stuff of teammates, at least not those two specifically. So if they don't fit together, but one of them is mafia, then that aligns nicely with my broader view of the game.
It'd especially make sense for a Kate/Lime Coke theory, for example. That is getting too specific, but it's an expression of how it would seem to fit.
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I think there's still validity in noting that Kate has below average volume compared to her recent town games, I just wouldn't call it a smoking gun atm.
Wiml wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 6:02 pm
I think there's still validity in noting that Kate has below average volume compared to her recent town games, I just wouldn't call it a smoking gun atm.
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I think it'd notable that both myself and Roxy have observed that Kate feels different compared to how she's played recently as town as well.
In my case alone it was a small sample size so I wasn't putting a lot of stock into it initially but I think it's something worth pointing back out given the topic of discussion.
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 5:54 pm
I do think being uninformed is a completely different beast. It's a lot easier to post when you have no clue.
Anyway, it's not worth dwelling on at this point. Kate is in my POE regardless of volume. I am considering Kate/Abigail as a difference check now (insert obligatory "or some softer version of that term").
I'd be interested in hearing your difference check read if you're up for explaining it?
The Kate/Abigail dif check is real. I remember thinking there was one but couldn't tell you for the life of me as to why I thought it.
Wild that it was observed by someone else though, I'd never had said anything and just let it amount to fuzzy sick brain.
nutella wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2018 2:56 pm
@DrWilgy don't post any more k
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Wilgy's vote is an enigma of science. Philosophers are known to throw their tomes across the auditorium in a fit of frustration after failing to solve its mystery.
insertnamehere wrote: ↑Wed Jun 28, 2017 11:50 pm
WTF was up with Wilgy's entire deal?
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Wilgy's vote is an enigma of science. Philosophers are known to throw their tomes across the auditorium in a fit of frustration after failing to solve its mystery.
insertnamehere wrote: ↑Wed Jun 28, 2017 11:50 pm
WTF was up with Wilgy's entire deal?
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 6:11 pm
It was when I read this that I thought that implied a dif. Not sure why exactly.
I think I find the confidence of Kate's tone to be incongruent with the material she is bringing into question. To find it suspicious is fine, but that was a bit much.
So we're left with either confident Kate is right or Kate is fake. Obviously confident Kate can be wrong too, but when I think about things in the broader POE it makes sense to think about a difference check.
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JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Wilgy's vote is an enigma of science. Philosophers are known to throw their tomes across the auditorium in a fit of frustration after failing to solve its mystery.
insertnamehere wrote: ↑Wed Jun 28, 2017 11:50 pm
WTF was up with Wilgy's entire deal?
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JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Wilgy's vote is an enigma of science. Philosophers are known to throw their tomes across the auditorium in a fit of frustration after failing to solve its mystery.
insertnamehere wrote: ↑Wed Jun 28, 2017 11:50 pm
WTF was up with Wilgy's entire deal?
Wiml wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 5:57 pm
I'd be interested in hearing your difference check read if you're up for explaining it?
Sure. It's not especially concrete, it's just a possible solution that fits nicely into the world I have imagined to this point. Kate is in my POE pool, and Abigail kind of hovers just outside it. Kate's recent assertive comment about Abigail being "too coherent" followed by a poll-tying vote doesn't strike me as the stuff of teammates, at least not those two specifically. So if they don't fit together, but one of them is mafia, then that aligns nicely with my broader view of the game.
It'd especially make sense for a Kate/Lime Coke theory, for example. That is getting too specific, but it's an expression of how it would seem to fit.
Yeah, thanks, I can understand this stance and I'm in a pretty similar position wrt reads myself - particularly if I'm assuming for the sake of solving that Wilgy/Quin are villagers and considering potential wolf teams from there.
Wiml wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 6:22 pm
Wilgy looking pretty towny this page.
I agree, tentatively. I probably still call him POE, primarily in that this most recent insight is a duplicate of mine (which I do appreciate, but it's easier to post). But I don't think he's a priority for me right now.
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I won't call this damning, because every game is circumstantial. But it should be noted that the lowest two post rates are the two mafia games, and this game is on a slow Kate rate. The above list is not comprehensive. I just grabbed a decent handful of what I could find on a quick review of the site Hall of Fame.
However, I challenge you to see if day is 100% my slowest day.
Andrew wrote: ↑Wed May 29, 2013 6:47 pm
I'm voting llama again because I think I heard him say something that looks like proof.
Wiml wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 6:22 pm
Wilgy looking pretty towny this page.
I agree, tentatively. I probably still call him POE, primarily in that this most recent insight is a duplicate of mine (which I do appreciate, but it's easier to post). But I don't think he's a priority for me right now.
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DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 6:11 pm
It was when I read this that I thought that implied a dif. Not sure why exactly.
I think I find the confidence of Kate's tone to be incongruent with the material she is bringing into question. To find it suspicious is fine, but that was a bit much.
So we're left with either confident Kate is right or Kate is fake. Obviously confident Kate can be wrong too, but when I think about things in the broader POE it makes sense to think about a difference check.
I was very confident and VERY wrong on wilgy once. I still wake up screaming from the nightmares.
Andrew wrote: ↑Wed May 29, 2013 6:47 pm
I'm voting llama again because I think I heard him say something that looks like proof.
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We have about 22 hours remaining in Day 1, which is plenty. However, we should remember that the deadline is somewhat early by usual standards, so if folks think that might pose a problem tomorrow, I suggest making this evening your big splash in the game.
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Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 9:31 pm
Mafia fucked up by killing Seanzie.
Reason why is I was going to fuck Seanzie up for them.
If youre town, and I think you might be, we need to gather and rally. Lynching zenon is a big mistake. How many mislynches do we have left?
Who'd you replace? I'm still four pages behind.
Robyn.
Well then I hope people will take a leap of faith with me and not vote zenon. She is smack dab in her civ meta.
Tell me what you know of Zenon's "civ meta."
Oh God. You know I play on feels.
Shes genuine. She's uber frustrated and not in a whiny, I'm caught fake way. She's determined and a bit scattered. When she's bad, she has her thoughts more collected and while she still post A LOT there more of a method to her madness that is not present here.
From bad dates.
Andrew wrote: ↑Wed May 29, 2013 6:47 pm
I'm voting llama again because I think I heard him say something that looks like proof.
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Wilgy's vote is an enigma of science. Philosophers are known to throw their tomes across the auditorium in a fit of frustration after failing to solve its mystery.
insertnamehere wrote: ↑Wed Jun 28, 2017 11:50 pm
WTF was up with Wilgy's entire deal?
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Wilgy's vote is an enigma of science. Philosophers are known to throw their tomes across the auditorium in a fit of frustration after failing to solve its mystery.
insertnamehere wrote: ↑Wed Jun 28, 2017 11:50 pm
WTF was up with Wilgy's entire deal?
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JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Wilgy's vote is an enigma of science. Philosophers are known to throw their tomes across the auditorium in a fit of frustration after failing to solve its mystery.
insertnamehere wrote: ↑Wed Jun 28, 2017 11:50 pm
WTF was up with Wilgy's entire deal?
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My first instinct with Epi/Abigail is that they don't fit together. Epignosis has a long history of avoiding bussing, especially if it is unnecessary (and I don't believe Abigail had received votes until he showed up if I recall correctly). I welcome discussion on that, because it is the only thing Epi has done to this point apart from a blind Quin vote.
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That's still technically five names if two of them are mutually exclusive, but it implies that both should not be allowed to survive long together. If that dichotomy is viewed as legitimate by the field, then it's wise to resolve it sooner than later. I forget which one, but this was a grave mistake made in one of the champs games this year.
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JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Wilgy's vote is an enigma of science. Philosophers are known to throw their tomes across the auditorium in a fit of frustration after failing to solve its mystery.
insertnamehere wrote: ↑Wed Jun 28, 2017 11:50 pm
WTF was up with Wilgy's entire deal?
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JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Wilgy's vote is an enigma of science. Philosophers are known to throw their tomes across the auditorium in a fit of frustration after failing to solve its mystery.
insertnamehere wrote: ↑Wed Jun 28, 2017 11:50 pm
WTF was up with Wilgy's entire deal?
Kate wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 8:52 pm
You did a chart about me with an analysis of posts per day.
Oh I see. Sure that can be called "stats". It's only a small piece of a much bigger puzzle though. If anyone ever posts an equation into the game thread and says "vote Kate! The equation says vote Kate!", I will agree that it is not sound strategy.
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JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Wilgy's vote is an enigma of science. Philosophers are known to throw their tomes across the auditorium in a fit of frustration after failing to solve its mystery.
insertnamehere wrote: ↑Wed Jun 28, 2017 11:50 pm
WTF was up with Wilgy's entire deal?
Kate wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 8:52 pm
You did a chart about me with an analysis of posts per day.
Oh I see. Sure that can be called "stats". It's only a small piece of a much bigger puzzle though. If anyone ever posts an equation into the game thread and says "vote Kate! The equation says vote Kate!", I will agree that it is not sound strategy.
I like you. Your like the Ying to my yang or summat.
Andrew wrote: ↑Wed May 29, 2013 6:47 pm
I'm voting llama again because I think I heard him say something that looks like proof.