[TOWN WIN] Cool Bug Mafia
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If I drop dead, it's been a pleasure folks.
Above all else, please do everything you can to ensure this game thread remains the positive playing environment that it has been so far. It's not just about making the game more pleasant to experience; it's also about town success. Towns generally perform better when they aren't miserable. Keep the vibes immaculate. It's been a really good space to this point.
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Just one question before nighttime:JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Aug 02, 2023 4:56 pm If I drop dead, it's been a pleasure folks.
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If the scenario comes to pass, you should certainly explore that possibility. At least ask the questions and have the conversation, and hold others accountable to participate in it.
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^^^^^JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Aug 02, 2023 4:56 pm If I drop dead, it's been a pleasure folks.
Above all else, please do everything you can to ensure this game thread remains the positive playing environment that it has been so far. It's not just about making the game more pleasant to experience; it's also about town success. Towns generally perform better when they aren't miserable. Keep the vibes immaculate. It's been a really good space to this point.
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The wee hours of morning through the end of the AMs. Gonna be glad to teach evening classes.Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Aug 02, 2023 4:57 pmJust one question before nighttime:JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Aug 02, 2023 4:56 pm If I drop dead, it's been a pleasure folks.
Above all else, please do everything you can to ensure this game thread remains the positive playing environment that it has been so far. It's not just about making the game more pleasant to experience; it's also about town success. Towns generally perform better when they aren't miserable. Keep the vibes immaculate. It's been a really good space to this point.
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I'll catch up in the night. If you and JJJ are voting there, I don't mind it. The soda guy wasn't on my good list anyway.
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Re: [D1] Cool Bug Mafia
I just had a lot of crap irl. And if you know me, I'd NEVER blame rl to protect my wolfness. I think that's lame play.☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Wed Aug 02, 2023 2:18 pmIt's not a great read but Kate knows me possibly as good or better than anyone in this game and generally has a good track record of reading me town including finding me like immediately just last game so her complete flop on reading me correctly and the lack of conviction and the lack of content and the lack of being a loud voice for town. It's concerning.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Aug 02, 2023 12:39 pm I came across that reading your ISO Neon, but perhaps for the sake of brevity, could you talk to me about your read on Kate?
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Aye, but figured I should point it out before EoD. Who knows, maybe they'll kill me n1 (wouldn't that be somethin?)?JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Aug 02, 2023 4:57 pmIf the scenario comes to pass, you should certainly explore that possibility. At least ask the questions and have the conversation, and hold others accountable to participate in it.
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Good morning Kate! I hope the crap lightens up!Kate wrote: ↑Wed Aug 02, 2023 4:59 pmI just had a lot of crap irl. And if you know me, I'd NEVER blame rl to protect my wolfness. I think that's lame play.☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Wed Aug 02, 2023 2:18 pmIt's not a great read but Kate knows me possibly as good or better than anyone in this game and generally has a good track record of reading me town including finding me like immediately just last game so her complete flop on reading me correctly and the lack of conviction and the lack of content and the lack of being a loud voice for town. It's concerning.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Aug 02, 2023 12:39 pm I came across that reading your ISO Neon, but perhaps for the sake of brevity, could you talk to me about your read on Kate?
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One bug among eleven needed to be squashed. Everyone decided Lime Coke was the one to get the shoe.
Did they make the right decision?
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Lime Coke was... a wolf.
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Did they make the right decision?
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An exterminator came to say hello. Falcon45ca was the only one silly enough to say it back.
Falcon45ca was... a villager.
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Also, keep in mind that hammer is now activated. 5 votes is the magic number.
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Honestly kinda saw that coming. Not falcon exactly, but “something weird”.
Quin mafia.
Quin mafia.
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I haven't read anything since EoD and probably won't be very present until tomorrow morning but got a lot to look over today.
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Quin might be my top wolf as well (although mostly for PoE reasons instead of actively having a case on him).
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Initial reaction was that this was probably towny from Kate.Kate wrote: ↑Wed Aug 02, 2023 4:59 pmI just had a lot of crap irl. And if you know me, I'd NEVER blame rl to protect my wolfness. I think that's lame play.☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Wed Aug 02, 2023 2:18 pmIt's not a great read but Kate knows me possibly as good or better than anyone in this game and generally has a good track record of reading me town including finding me like immediately just last game so her complete flop on reading me correctly and the lack of conviction and the lack of content and the lack of being a loud voice for town. It's concerning.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Aug 02, 2023 12:39 pm I came across that reading your ISO Neon, but perhaps for the sake of brevity, could you talk to me about your read on Kate?
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Agreed about that Kate post. Same instinct the moment I saw it.
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I just don’t believe these posts. This looks like an effort by mafia to salvage their teammate, or at least to give them a chance, by dismissing the wagon. I don’t think it makes sense for Quin to view LC’s only real read in the game as “genuine” while also calling it bad. There’s nothing in LC’s posts about falcon that sensibly lead to that conclusion.Quin wrote: ↑Wed Aug 02, 2023 7:20 am Reading falcon, I suppose I should caveat that just because I believe LC has a genuine read on falcon, that doesn't mean it's good.
LC's read begins with the thought that falcon wasn't interested in learning anything by calling out Epi for his vote on me. I feel like falcon's approach to this whole game has been the opposite of that, because I'm seeing thoughtful attempts to prompt info or responses in most of his posts.
Quin voted off-wagon, ever the contrarian. I even half-predicted Wiml and I would both live if Quin is mafia, because he’d make a contrarian kill.
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The first alternate would be Epignosis, who can sometimes have a similar contrarian streak.
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FALCON NOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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FixedSyn wrote: ↑Thu Aug 03, 2023 4:56 pm An exterminator came to say hello. Falcon45ca was the only one friendly enough to say it back.
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I'll stow my vote for the time being with the hammer active, but I feel reasonably confident that eliminating Quin ends the game. I very much welcome protests or other discussion in case I am wrong.
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I waited to see who's the NK.
RIP Falcon, he became IC and couldn’t live
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RIP Falcon, he became IC and couldn’t live
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I'll unvote if there's a concern about quickhammering since I'll be sleeping shortly.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Aug 03, 2023 5:15 pm I'll stow my vote for the time being with the hammer active, but I feel reasonably confident that eliminating Quin ends the game. I very much welcome protests or other discussion in case I am wrong.
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[VOTE: Unvote] aubergineWiml wrote: ↑Thu Aug 03, 2023 5:19 pmI'll unvote if there's a concern about quickhammering since I'll be sleeping shortly.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Aug 03, 2023 5:15 pm I'll stow my vote for the time being with the hammer active, but I feel reasonably confident that eliminating Quin ends the game. I very much welcome protests or other discussion in case I am wrong.
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Should be no harm in a couple of votes.Wiml wrote: ↑Thu Aug 03, 2023 5:19 pmI'll unvote if there's a concern about quickhammering since I'll be sleeping shortly.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Aug 03, 2023 5:15 pm I'll stow my vote for the time being with the hammer active, but I feel reasonably confident that eliminating Quin ends the game. I very much welcome protests or other discussion in case I am wrong.
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I suspect some of Lime Coke's silence and resignation might be attributed to his partner being the last player in the game to get involved.
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I'm still planning to think over the game a bit more.
I think the case on Quin by JJJ is solid and they're at the bottom of my PoE but I'd like to review everyone still.
I think the case on Quin by JJJ is solid and they're at the bottom of my PoE but I'd like to review everyone still.
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PoE just feels like Quin, Epi, Kate right?
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I will probably still have a go at full-scale association analyses for everyone against Lime Coke just for good measure. There may always be something I am missing.
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Depends upon how brave you are about Kate's last post of Day 1. That might be one of those "oh, well she's town, nevermind" moments. I understand if that makes anyone uneasy.
The full POE pool can go four deep, so those three plus Abigail would be the most generic case.
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Actually, yoink Epi off that again...
Just Quin.
Quin is the PoE.
Just Quin.
Quin is the PoE.
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Wow. Weird nk is weird.
I cannot read Quin so i will iso tonight along with a couple of others I had in mind.
I have Ariya so just a pop in.
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I cannot read Quin so i will iso tonight along with a couple of others I had in mind.
I have Ariya so just a pop in.
Also thanks for the d 1 elim wiml. <3
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Oh, no I see it. Didn't you see my silly reply?JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Aug 03, 2023 5:24 pmDepends upon how brave you are about Kate's last post of Day 1. That might be one of those "oh, well she's town, nevermind" moments. I understand if that makes anyone uneasy.
The full POE pool can go four deep, so those three plus Abigail would be the most generic case.
I'd rather not invest brain cells into that anyhow.
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It seems we are in accord.
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I also think Quin's random vote for DrWilgy is similar to Lime Coke's random vote for falcon. No, I am not tunneling, you're tunneling.
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Give me my vengeance for that vote! I shall avenge Falcon as well!
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Great team effort on Day 1, by the way. Tons of good communication and dialogue that led to an eliminated mafioso, including from people not on his wagon. Pats on the back all around.
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Associations of Lime Coke and Abigail
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There's not much to it, and we're left to make the standard judgment: TMI or propping up a teammate? I think it's important that in this progression, Lime Coke was kind of following my own read on Abigail step-for-step. He started town when I started town, and he toned it down when I toned it down. Maybe that says more about me than it says about Abigail, but my first instinct is that it's decent for her. This shows me that Lime Coke didn't actually care how he read Abigail, because he was just following the momentum. He's more likely to be apathetic if he is not dealing with his teammate.
From Abigail
Abigail expressed frustration and bewilderment about the ways that reads had progressed on her, including from Lime Coke. The third post is probably the most interesting here, as it displays Abigail's mindset about the situation through a description of "2 people". That referenced Lime Coke and I. It's hard to suggest that this is some kind of "distancing", because she doesn't actually say his name. It feels reachy to call that a "good" thing, but I don't think it's bad. It's an abnormal shape for teammate discourse to take.
The last post is a nice touch. By this point the LC wagon was up and running, so perhaps the credit is diluted -- but she spared no feelings in her assessment of LC. "zero compelling posts".
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Conclusion
My first guess remains that Abigail is town and not teamed with Lime Coke. It isn't impossible to squeeze a case together against her if I wanted to, but at the moment it'd feel forced and disingenuous. The most important point to me is that I don't think Lime Coke was even interested in his own Abigail read.
From Lime Coke
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There's not much to it, and we're left to make the standard judgment: TMI or propping up a teammate? I think it's important that in this progression, Lime Coke was kind of following my own read on Abigail step-for-step. He started town when I started town, and he toned it down when I toned it down. Maybe that says more about me than it says about Abigail, but my first instinct is that it's decent for her. This shows me that Lime Coke didn't actually care how he read Abigail, because he was just following the momentum. He's more likely to be apathetic if he is not dealing with his teammate.
From Abigail
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Abigail expressed frustration and bewilderment about the ways that reads had progressed on her, including from Lime Coke. The third post is probably the most interesting here, as it displays Abigail's mindset about the situation through a description of "2 people". That referenced Lime Coke and I. It's hard to suggest that this is some kind of "distancing", because she doesn't actually say his name. It feels reachy to call that a "good" thing, but I don't think it's bad. It's an abnormal shape for teammate discourse to take.
The last post is a nice touch. By this point the LC wagon was up and running, so perhaps the credit is diluted -- but she spared no feelings in her assessment of LC. "zero compelling posts".
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Conclusion
My first guess remains that Abigail is town and not teamed with Lime Coke. It isn't impossible to squeeze a case together against her if I wanted to, but at the moment it'd feel forced and disingenuous. The most important point to me is that I don't think Lime Coke was even interested in his own Abigail read.
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From DrWilgy
Wilgy voted Lime Coke straightaway on the back of falcon's vote. In this sense, Wilgy was pretty open about handing the credit to someone else, at least early in the day. Later in the day he toyed around with other options, including Quin (with an actual vote) and Kate (with a stated preference), but he was on and off and on the LC wagon through the proceedings. There are theoretically cases to be made against Wilgy (e.g., "tried to move momentum away from the mafia elimination"), but I don't like any of them. I think he still played an important part in bringing about LC's demise.
Conclusion
Maybe the most telling thing is that Wilgy had his vote on LC frequently on Day 1, and LC still never mentioned him at all. No acknowledgement whatsoever. I doubt that is a coordinated plan for distancing; it's a conversation that is just unlikely to exist in a mafia chat: "I'm going to vote for you, and you should just ignore it all day and go dark". I think Wilgy's own stance was concrete enough and developed through an authentic process, so I don't think he's LC's teammate.
From Lime Coke
~Nada~
From DrWilgy
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Wilgy voted Lime Coke straightaway on the back of falcon's vote. In this sense, Wilgy was pretty open about handing the credit to someone else, at least early in the day. Later in the day he toyed around with other options, including Quin (with an actual vote) and Kate (with a stated preference), but he was on and off and on the LC wagon through the proceedings. There are theoretically cases to be made against Wilgy (e.g., "tried to move momentum away from the mafia elimination"), but I don't like any of them. I think he still played an important part in bringing about LC's demise.
Conclusion
Maybe the most telling thing is that Wilgy had his vote on LC frequently on Day 1, and LC still never mentioned him at all. No acknowledgement whatsoever. I doubt that is a coordinated plan for distancing; it's a conversation that is just unlikely to exist in a mafia chat: "I'm going to vote for you, and you should just ignore it all day and go dark". I think Wilgy's own stance was concrete enough and developed through an authentic process, so I don't think he's LC's teammate.
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Re: [D2] Cool Bug Mafia
Not me?
I'll be honest figured there'd be some paranoia around me given like my history and stuff.
I wrote in my personal channel last night that I was so happy and excited and that I think my town core is probably just good but figured I was gonna keep getting pressure today.
The hard world is that Wiml or JJJ are wolf but I'm not deeply worried about that until FX
Don't really agree with like clearing Kate off that post but I'm not interested in starting there anyways
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JJJ
Wiml
Wilgy
Michelle
Roxy
Game winning ez
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