The Emperor's Soul [D5]

[Marmot]

And tbh, LC doesn't have to be paired with Scotty. It could very well be Scotty townreading a slot that could go over for the sake of pocketing and being right (because while Lime Coke hasn't received a ton of pressure yet, I don't think he's moved himself out of POE territory either).

[Marmot]

I think it's just Scotty/Lime-Coke

Their interactions and reads on each other are weird in isolation, and the fact that they're also directed at each other rubs me the wrong way.

You...actually think we do this "Maybe you're mafia, maybe you're town, maybe you're not" dance as scum?

I thought about it a little more and I think there's a decent chance one of you is a wolf, but I'm probably wrong about you two being paired.

[Marmot]

To be honest, I just want to feel the vibes, guess a bit, and don't doubt myself too much and don't get carried away by this game.

I want you to know that the klaxons in my head are blaring after reading this

this is shades of GoC Dizzy

Did Dizzy make this sort of post there? What do you see specifically?

I know he and I were teammates, but there were so many players and that game was long enough ago, I don't remember exactly what Dizzy looked like in game tbh.

[S~V~S]

butt

I was gonna say he didn’t give a rats ass, but that sounded soooo Brooklyn lol

[Lime Coke]

Like right now I don't see myself removing my top 4 townreads for a while.

Bottom two are there but not totally a lock but with more time I may be able to get a better read on them.

[Lime Coke]

Oh SVS was towny during the time I was away I could throw her into townleans.

[Seanzie]

Sean’s progression on marmot is questionable:

Spoiler: show

I'm 95% to a Marmot vote.

I think it's less consequential in other games and so not really relevant.

But that explanation makes sense, carry on.

You asked a "gotcha" question that "wasn't really relevant" after being pressed? Tell me more.

Also, why is Scotty town?

I don't have an argument for v!Scotty, why are you asking me?

You asked me, but didn't care enough to notice I didn't answer.

Fair enough.

Do you feel like answering now?

Not really, but less because of a strategic reason and more because on reflection I don't see whatever it was I was seeing earlier.

Why do you feel like a "fair maiden" being fair enough all the time?

I don't have an argument for v!Scotty, why are you asking me?

You asked me, but didn't care enough to notice I didn't answer.

Fair enough.

Do you feel like answering now?

Not really, but less because of a strategic reason and more because on reflection I don't see whatever it was I was seeing earlier.

Why do you feel like a "fair maiden" being fair enough all the time?

From my POV, I didn't really feel the need in continuing to one-up in a back-and-forth. You made a good point. I acknowledged it. While I did consider a snarky retort, it didn't feel productive.

That sounds great, but at this point it is a pattern.

Can @Seanzie or @Dyslexicon explain why they scumread Marmot? Because after his recent posts I'm not seeing it. I'm nodding along to a lot of what he said, like townreading Scotty for the observation and initially being skeptical of Epi thinking votes were locked.

Oh, I don't anymore.

I originally did because he seemed like an eager beav... marmot.

Marmot
Scotty

Epignosis

Thunal

SVS

Dyslexicon
Rico
Kate
Falcon

Syn

Nutella

-95% convinced he’ll vote marmot
-“upon reflection I don’t see whatever it was I was seeing earlier”
-‘yea yea yea at this point it’s a pattern’
-doesn’t suspect anymore
-locktown


Like, ok. People can make 180’s in short amounts of time. I’ve done it this game.

What’s bugging me is that post in the middle where sean says ‘at this point it’s a pattern’. Because it seems to me that post is still shading marmot but he’s already reflected that he didn’t suspect him for the reason that he thought he did. Then to follow it up with marmot being one of the only ones in the top town tier? Baffling.

@Seanzie , what made marmot a top town and not just your main scum read? Because I feel like it wouldn’t be as binary as you’ve made it

This was about you, not Marmot. Thanks for reminding me about it though. I woke up feeling fine about you this morning, but it does seem like last night I was hesitant, so I'll re-look at your ISO.

I pushed Marmot early on for a weak reason. I purposefully continued to mount pressure towards him to see how he would react. IMO, he reacted completely fine and did not give me "worried" vibes, which makes me think he is just town.

[Seanzie]

Sean has an agenda methinks. Methinks hard

Also, I should say, I do have an agenda.

[Dyslexicon]

To be honest, I just want to feel the vibes, guess a bit, and don't doubt myself too much and don't get carried away by this game.

I want you to know that the klaxons in my head are blaring after reading this

this is shades of GoC Dizzy

Did Dizzy make this sort of post there? What do you see specifically?

I know he and I were teammates, but there were so many players and that game was long enough ago, I don't remember exactly what Dizzy looked like in game tbh.

Nah. I tryharded so hard in GoC that we went from an auto loss D2 to a win. I don't really know what Syn is on about.

I don't really know anymore in general with this game, so I'm leaving it be for now.

[nutella]

Nutella - Is getting reads, specifically scumreads, in a way that I'm used to seeing her get where it basically snowballs.

...Where are you seeing this??

My first ever-so-slight pressure was on Marmot whom I now lean town. I haven't really had scumreads aside from defaulting to the 0-1 posters and shrugging a bit on Epi/Thunal for a couple pages (Thunal has moved up a little but subject to return). I just now put you on the bottom of my list and I don't think I had indicated that inclination much prior to responding to your post above.

My reads have not been following a particularly snowbally pattern at all. They've been in flux. Explain this read.

Syn svs thunal sean town ig

Marmot and rico are subject to further curiosity

Scotty is a worldhopper from a different game

I think it's rand townie that nutella has so many townleans right off the bat, but why are Rico and I not in that camp?

Why should you be?

I think it's rand townie that nutella has so many townleans right off the bat, but why are Rico and I not in that camp?

Why should you be?

You tell me, you're the one who made the read.

You're the one who wanted to be townread.

@nutella

Pretty soon it's gonna be me, which is unfortunate because you don't get out of tunnels, but yeah it probably means you're town.

........................

Found another worldhopper

[Seanzie]

I think it's rand townie that nutella has so many townleans right off the bat, but why are Rico and I not in that camp?

Why should you be?

I think it's rand townie that nutella has so many townleans right off the bat, but why are Rico and I not in that camp?

Why should you be?

You tell me, you're the one who made the read.

You're the one who wanted to be townread.

I think it's rand townie that nutella has so many townleans right off the bat, but why are Rico and I not in that camp?

Why should you be?

You tell me, you're the one who made the read.

You're the one who wanted to be townread.

I'm asking you why Rico and I aren't in that camp. Sure my name is involved, but I'm interested in how you differentiate the two.

Because.....you....weren't....towny?
This seems circular

I don't think continuing this pedantic exchange will allow me to secure a read on you. Talk about something else.

Marmot did improve but early stuff was wehhh

Like if you think this is how I interact with a wolf partner in the first 12 hours, uh... I think I probably don't lol. In any case you quoted several marmot posts and called them wolf without directly bringing me up again so yeah dunno where that's coming from.

This is the thing that wolves do when they're like "well yeah, you got me, but you got my partner wrong! Look at how wrong you are! Now drop your sus on me!"

[Seanzie]

are we really doing "I would never do this as a wolf" defenses on d1

I would never use those defenses D1 as a wolf.

[nutella]

Ok @Seanzie who's my partner?

[Seanzie]

Ok @Seanzie who's my partner?

Don't know. Not Marmot though.

[nutella]

Nutella - Is getting reads, specifically scumreads, in a way that I'm used to seeing her get where it basically snowballs.

...Where are you seeing this??

My first ever-so-slight pressure was on Marmot whom I now lean town. I haven't really had scumreads aside from defaulting to the 0-1 posters and shrugging a bit on Epi/Thunal for a couple pages (Thunal has moved up a little but subject to return). I just now put you on the bottom of my list and I don't think I had indicated that inclination much prior to responding to your post above.

My reads have not been following a particularly snowbally pattern at all. They've been in flux. Explain this read.

Syn svs thunal sean town ig

Marmot and rico are subject to further curiosity

Scotty is a worldhopper from a different game

I think it's rand townie that nutella has so many townleans right off the bat, but why are Rico and I not in that camp?

Why should you be?

I think it's rand townie that nutella has so many townleans right off the bat, but why are Rico and I not in that camp?

Why should you be?

You tell me, you're the one who made the read.

You're the one who wanted to be townread.

@nutella

Pretty soon it's gonna be me, which is unfortunate because you don't get out of tunnels, but yeah it probably means you're town.

........................

Found another worldhopper

Seriously, this is extremely baffling to me.

>I lightly pressure marmot
>I shift to a townlean on marmot
>Lime both insists that my "scumread" "snowballed" and that I "don't get out of tunnels"

What? What on earth is this series of takes from Lime? Am I taking crazy pills?

[nutella]

I feel like he made up a reason for me to have been on his townlist. Idk. I can't make sense of it.

[Lime Coke]

Nutella - Is getting reads, specifically scumreads, in a way that I'm used to seeing her get where it basically snowballs.

...Where are you seeing this??

My first ever-so-slight pressure was on Marmot whom I now lean town. I haven't really had scumreads aside from defaulting to the 0-1 posters and shrugging a bit on Epi/Thunal for a couple pages (Thunal has moved up a little but subject to return). I just now put you on the bottom of my list and I don't think I had indicated that inclination much prior to responding to your post above.

My reads have not been following a particularly snowbally pattern at all. They've been in flux. Explain this read.

Syn svs thunal sean town ig

Marmot and rico are subject to further curiosity

Scotty is a worldhopper from a different game

I think it's rand townie that nutella has so many townleans right off the bat, but why are Rico and I not in that camp?

Why should you be?

I think it's rand townie that nutella has so many townleans right off the bat, but why are Rico and I not in that camp?

Why should you be?

You tell me, you're the one who made the read.

You're the one who wanted to be townread.

@nutella

Pretty soon it's gonna be me, which is unfortunate because you don't get out of tunnels, but yeah it probably means you're town.

........................

Found another worldhopper

Seriously, this is extremely baffling to me.

>I lightly pressure marmot
>I shift to a townlean on marmot
>Lime both insists that my "scumread" "snowballed" and that I "don't get out of tunnels"

What? What on earth is this series of takes from Lime? Am I taking crazy pills?

No you're just smoking some really funky shit.

[nutella]

No you're just smoking some really funky shit.

??????????? Can I have what you're having????

[Syn]

To be honest, I just want to feel the vibes, guess a bit, and don't doubt myself too much and don't get carried away by this game.

I want you to know that the klaxons in my head are blaring after reading this

this is shades of GoC Dizzy

Did Dizzy make this sort of post there? What do you see specifically?

I know he and I were teammates, but there were so many players and that game was long enough ago, I don't remember exactly what Dizzy looked like in game tbh.

I would prefer to not read 19 pages of ISO to find a smoking gun

but I vaguely recall a happy-go-lucky attitude that was paramount to fooling all of us in the final stretch

[Syn]

I feel like he made up a reason for me to have been on his townlist. Idk. I can't make sense of it.

how do you feel about thunal/lc as a team

does it feel bonita

[Lime Coke]

I feel like he made up a reason for me to have been on his townlist. Idk. I can't make sense of it.

how do you feel about thunal/lc as a team

does it feel bonita

No it's hoenita.

[Lime Coke]

I'm calling myself the hoe, not Thunal, to be clear.

[nutella]

I feel like he made up a reason for me to have been on his townlist. Idk. I can't make sense of it.

how do you feel about thunal/lc as a team

does it feel bonita

Sure, that sounds plausible


If brad refuses explain his stance on me with reference to any basis in anything resembling reality, I'm probably gonna park on him

[Lime Coke]

I feel like he made up a reason for me to have been on his townlist. Idk. I can't make sense of it.

how do you feel about thunal/lc as a team

does it feel bonita

Sure, that sounds plausible


If brad refuses explain his stance on me with reference to any basis in anything resembling reality, I'm probably gonna park on him

I did already.

[falcon45ca]

I AM TOWN!




All my means are sane, my motive and my object are mad.

[falcon45ca]

[VOTE: lime coke] aubergine

Nutella - Is getting reads, specifically scumreads, in a way that I'm used to seeing her get where it basically snowballs.

...Where are you seeing this??

My first ever-so-slight pressure was on Marmot whom I now lean town. I haven't really had scumreads aside from defaulting to the 0-1 posters and shrugging a bit on Epi/Thunal for a couple pages (Thunal has moved up a little but subject to return). I just now put you on the bottom of my list and I don't think I had indicated that inclination much prior to responding to your post above.

My reads have not been following a particularly snowbally pattern at all. They've been in flux. Explain this read.

Syn svs thunal sean town ig

Marmot and rico are subject to further curiosity

Scotty is a worldhopper from a different game

I think it's rand townie that nutella has so many townleans right off the bat, but why are Rico and I not in that camp?

Why should you be?

Why should you be?

You tell me, you're the one who made the read.

You're the one who wanted to be townread.

@nutella

Pretty soon it's gonna be me, which is unfortunate because you don't get out of tunnels, but yeah it probably means you're town.

........................

Found another worldhopper

Seriously, this is extremely baffling to me.

>I lightly pressure marmot
>I shift to a townlean on marmot
>Lime both insists that my "scumread" "snowballed" and that I "don't get out of tunnels"

What? What on earth is this series of takes from Lime? Am I taking crazy pills?

No you're just smoking some really funky shit.

[Lime Coke]

Okay glad to know people are paying attention to things.

[Lime Coke]

Townread:
Dizzy
Syn
Thunal
Nutella
SVS

Townlean:
Scotty
Marmot

If I manage to die my main confidence in towns is in the dark green, so don't yeet them.

[Lime Coke]

NGL my first decision to yeet someone would be Seanzie.

[Syn]

[VOTE: lime coke] aubergine

another victim of the vote lock

also kind of weird this has happened to both of the chops I proposed for the day

[Syn]

NGL my first decision to yeet someone would be Seanzie.

why

[Lime Coke]

NGL my first decision to yeet someone would be Seanzie.

why

Reads and questions don't feel real to me.

[nutella]

[VOTE: lime coke] aubergine

another victim of the vote lock

also kind of weird this has happened to both of the chops I proposed for the day

Yeah it's a fine vote to stick around imo.

[nutella]

Quick guide to brad
Town Brad has cringe reads, but not nonsensical reads

[Lime Coke]

Quick guide to brad
Town Brad has cringe reads, but not nonsensical reads

You're unironically proving my point to be right.

[nutella]

Both your cringe reads and your nonsensical reads can be correct for the wrong reasons. The justification just isn't there.

[Seanzie]

NGL my first decision to yeet someone would be Seanzie.

If I was wolf, I'd have you pocketed by now.

[Dyslexicon]

Lime is town actually

See. I can do it too.

[Seanzie]

Lime is town actually

See. I can do it too.

Are you town?

[Dyslexicon]

Lime is town actually

See. I can do it too.

Are you town?

Yes

[Lime Coke]

NGL my first decision to yeet someone would be Seanzie.

If I was wolf, I'd have you pocketed by now.

[VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine

Pocket that.

[Syn]

three wagons is nonideal

[Dyslexicon]

Let's not go crazy with the votes, shall we

[Syn]

NGL my first decision to yeet someone would be Seanzie.

why

Reads and questions don't feel real to me.

because they're contrarian?

[Seanzie]

NGL my first decision to yeet someone would be Seanzie.

If I was wolf, I'd have you pocketed by now.

[VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine

Pocket that.

[Seanzie]

Lime is town actually

See. I can do it too.

Are you town?

Yes

I 55% believe you.

[nutella]

three wagons is nonideal

Let's all avoid further spread and consolidate on Lime then.

I'm probably not moving from this read. Realistically will wait a little longer to actually vote. But yeah. He's dying today.

[Syn]

thunal (1) - epi
lime coke (1) - falcon
seanzie (1) - lime coke

[Dyslexicon]

Lime is town actually

See. I can do it too.

Are you town?

Yes

I 55% believe you.

Why? Do you have any thoughts on me?

[Syn]

@falcon45ca @Epignosis please explain why your thread-entrance vanity votes were on the topics of discussion at that time

was it just "biggest name to pick" or was there actual reasoning involved