[TOWN WIN] Cool Bug Mafia

[_ExLight]

Few Ex thoughts.

Welcome ExLight.

Guess the PoE plan is off now because this changes too much.

me subbing in changes the PoE? why?

I'm really not sure if I follow

me simply joining in shouldn't change PoE
my slot is pretty bad, while I'm asking to give me some time to catch up, letting me go to pursue lessee possibilities is a strange logic

Asking questions that are seemingly towny. If I subbed into T Kate's slot and saw the happenings and the postings I feel these are the questions I'd ask and observations I'd make.

I still hasn't seen this epi fella post which is bothering me

I still hasn't seen this epi fella post which is bothering me

Comes off as a little opportunistic imo. However, I get the position Ex is in if T and can still see myself thinking the same way if my CW from consensus PoE hasn't been seen by myself personally.

Aye, between Ex and Kate, I think giving Ex more time is the correct answer. Kate, don't give me trust issues plz.

You must've missed my follow up post on the epi, me feeling bothered isn't to throw shade at them, but as seeing them being an easy target. If anything that puts me back in the spotlight because I'm being vocal at the seemingly only alternative to me as being one I don't like lol

[Wiml]

I do feel bad for Epi if he's a wolf because us voting Kate today was by far his easiest path to winning the game and the last minute sub has crushed his chances of that.

Wouldn't be anyone to blame for it but sorry that happened Epi if that's the case. I've had some shitty wolf luck recently so I get it.

[_ExLight]

I'm pretty lost with all the meta talk ngl

[Wiml]

Fwiw this I the first time I've played on this site in 2+ years.

[Epignosis]

I see unvote currently has a 50% chance of going over instead of me.

So that's reassuring.

[_ExLight]

fwiw it's the first time I've played with you in two years lol

[_ExLight]

is the Unvote treated as No Lynch?

[Wiml]

Roxy's probably town.

I'm not convinced I truly have enough there to clear her on the basis of but a bunch of small things + reads of others (Wilgy) gives me enough confidence to remove her from my PoE.

[Epignosis]

Pretty sure not.

[Wiml]

is the Unvote treated as No Lynch?

I don't think so, I certainly don't think it's what anybody voting unvote is intending for.

[Epignosis]

I'm six pages behind and have to work in an hour.

So that's reassuring.

[_ExLight]

oh ok

[_ExLight]

I see unvote currently has a 50% chance of going over instead of me.

So that's reassuring.

hi! nice to meet you!
could you give me a quick rundown of your thoughts?

[DrWilgy]

Epi, I'd like your read on my slot when you can. I get that you are busy.

[Michelle]

I tend to vote Epi as well.

His case on Wiml was based on the implied TMI for a town read who shouldn't come from today's posts. I could see Epi's posts as not AI but I can't say for sure what Wiml could see there if he is town. A difference in play between us is obvious so we can for sure look at the same thing and have different takes.

My case was very different and implied the resons for bussing and the suspicion Wiml is powerwolfing.

But not the case he posted on Wiml is my problem here, nor the fact that is not good to solve by Poe.

I don't like how and why he unvoted.
Wiml posted a non bussing meta strategy. A skilled wolf will always know where his position in the game is and how to make a defence. And that post was a defence, including self meta and game strategy.

I don't consider self meta a clearing proof.

However, if Epi is a wolf considered that Wiml was tonwing up and unvoted.

This is all from memory because I didn't reread what happened to put quotes, but it's in Epi's posts of today.


Also I like Wilgy's posts.

[Epignosis]

I see unvote currently has a 50% chance of going over instead of me.

So that's reassuring.

hi! nice to meet you!
could you give me a quick rundown of your thoughts?

Hello. Likewise.

I'll keep this quote open in another tab and try to power through what I'm behind. I'll give you a summary as soon as I can before the deadline. I've been a mess for about a week.

The short answer for now is "Don't lynch me."

[DrWilgy]

Epi thoughts

I'm voting for [VOTE: Quin] aubergine.

Why?






If you want them to get engaged, wouldn't it help to tag them?

Is that what I'm doing?

Oh dear. I didn't realize.

Epi's entry and back and forth with Falc is NAI. Epi tends to fling shit as either alignment getting into the game.

To the best of my memory, this is the first time I have been a civilian in a Syndicate game since 2021. I am probably going to be my worstbest self and play at full throttle, as though this is the last chance I will ever have to solve a Mafia game.

Come friends, and let us make mincemeat of malevolent mountainous mafia.

Wait... this is the last game your ever playing?

I don't believe you interpreted JJJ's statement this way.

Fake entrance.

[VOTE: ☆Princess Abigail☆] aubergine

☆Princess Abigail☆

This is mafia. Let's go.

More flinging, but this time with gusto. I think it's unlikely to be able to gauge if Epi is genuine in these thoughts on Abi. Maybe someone else knows better.

To the best of my memory, this is the first time I have been a civilian in a Syndicate game since 2021. I am probably going to be my worstbest self and play at full throttle, as though this is the last chance I will ever have to solve a Mafia game.

Come friends, and let us make mincemeat of malevolent mountainous mafia.

Wait... this is the last game your ever playing?

I don't believe you interpreted JJJ's statement this way.

Fake entrance.

[VOTE: ☆Princess Abigail☆] aubergine

@Epignosis I'd appreciate if you could go into more detail about what exactly you think is fake about Abigail's post and why you think that it's wolf indicative from her.

I know Michelle has given reasons but yours seem different to hers.

It's less that and more... waves hands around.

I made an accusation. It was flimsy.

I got a picture of a child holding a gun in response. There's nothing to respond to. The recipient of my vote is not trying to figure out my alignment.

As for "wolf indicativeness?"

The contrary view for Abigail is that she is not engaged or energized in this thread, and that's a stark difference to recent town games. I don't recall seeing her play as mafia and would need to snoop around to determine how meaningful that is.

This is indeed wolf indicative for me.

But must be compared with the general unease I feel about myself and my play right now

I sense a distinct lack of comfort, effort, and interest.

The fling has become a push with this interaction here.

Okay, I powered through. Not mafia: JJJ, Syn, Wimi (You get one adverb pass and one only), Roxy (I think Kate is mafia), Michelle, DrWilgy

That's where I is.

This is weird I think. Comes across as knowing too much while avoiding LC.

I have a separate issue with Quin that has nothing to do with Lime Coke.

I have ten posts, including the one I just made. I feel like I'm not playing.

I can just say at this point:

I figured your blind vote for Quin and your move against Abigail were both more "throw something at the wall and see how people handle it" than concrete reads. You can tell me if that's true or not.

True for Quin. My current vote is "realer."

Why Quin?

Nobody knew where you were.

Ick.

Quin became defensive over a single vote from me just for the sake of doing something.

I didn't think the third-person question that followed was serious, so I replied in kind.

I got a seemingly serious but rather ambiguous response.

Ick.

What's ick?

Sounds like I wasn't the only one who hadn't posted. I wanted to know why he picked me.

I also don't think throwing votes on inactives is part of his civilian playbook to begin with. It's LHF.

Quin seemed annoyed that I picked that particular name to vote at that time. I didn't have a reason, so there was no "why."

Does Quin think I have a civilian playbook? I just do shit. Voting Quin was just doing shit. But then Quin going out of the way to self-ascribe "low hanging fruit" is pouring it on heavier and thicker than grandma's peach cobbler over ice cream.

I'm scum reading everyone (Epi is a quinfoil) on the Abigail wagon, but I'm not sure she's town either.

Thread leaders, 1 of whom (3J) I townread and another I townlean (Wiml) are on LC, who I have no opinion on.

I am realistically not getting through 12~ pages of content before I go to bed in 3 hours, so I'm pretty desperate for someone to tell me where to look on that front.

A lynch between Abigail and LC could tell me a lot.

The silver (the color of quinfoil) is the biggest bunch of hooey. There's no reasoning given; it's permission to say "all of these people are bad," BUT WAIT "Epi (Mr. Ick) is 'quinfoil'" and the person getting voted could be good too. There's nothing of substance in that sentence. It's Quin producing an allowance to suspect either side of the coin (or the ridges of the coin).

The red is another item of note. If Quin is desperate for help, why this?

@Quin any cause for the delay in placing a vote?

No, but I'm probably going off wagon.

"I'm pretty desperate for someone to tell me where to look" is about an hour removed from "No, but I'm probably going off wagon."

And that's what happened. A vote for DrWilgy.

I'd cover the cobbler in quinfoil, but I'd fear the latter would spoil the former.

Epi's qualm with Quin. Does W Epi make this effort for Quin when the writing is already on the wall for the slot OR would've W Epi let it happen and get some 'I'm not wrong' brownie points?

Then there's the Wiml thing, then we are back to Abi.

Bah.

Epi I think I need more in depth reads from you if I'm ever to find you. I can see both T Epi and W Epi as it stands, but there's some questions on both that prevent me from taking a firm stance on either.

Like, why was I town early while LC was ignored?

and why push Quin when it was seemingly uneeded?

[Wiml]

Nah, I'm not Lime Coke's teammate. We'd be having way more fun.

You'd have to prove it by voting him tbh.

I have no qualms about doing so. I wanted to move by vote away from where I've been sitting anyway. You could say I'm...boooooored.

[VOTE: Lime Coke] aubergine

Hmm

[DrWilgy]

I think the problem I have most with not being able to find Epi if T is that I just kinda disagree with W Abigail at this point. Who's the W if not Epi and why does Epi's WR clash with my own like so?

[DrWilgy]

I'm taking a poo. Someone tell me who the wolf is and if it's not in Epi/Ex as to why I'm wrong on my other reads.

[DrWilgy]

Good day Sir!

[Michelle]

I think the problem I have most with not being able to find Epi if T is that I just kinda disagree with W Abigail at this point. Who's the W if not Epi and why does Epi's WR clash with my own like so?

Abigail if wolf avoids to show agenda and that makes Wiml town read her. But Jay TR her pretty strong D2 and killing him doesn't make much sense.

[Wiml]

Skimmed Epi's ISO and I don't think there's any solving in his D3 that isn't directly linked to self defence.

It's just his case on me, opening the PoE via having three nulls + one scumread, some LAMIST-y posts and trying to get people to stop using the PoE strat: all of which directly benefits him in survival.

I'm not seeing any evidence of him trying to solve outside of that.

[Wiml]

Getting some stuff done so I can be around for EoD.

[Michelle]

I'm taking a poo. Someone tell me who the wolf is and if it's not in Epi/Ex as to why I'm wrong on my other reads.

English is really weird for someone who thinks and speaks in a latin language.

[Epignosis]

I see unvote currently has a 50% chance of going over instead of me.

So that's reassuring.

hi! nice to meet you!
could you give me a quick rundown of your thoughts?

I'm sorry, I don't think I'm going to make it with the time I have. I haven't been home.

I presently would not lynch Wiml or Michelle. I realize that's probably not much help. I made a big ass case against WIml, but I think Wiml handled my whimsical turn as best as could be expected. Michelle reeks of genuine frustration.

I think Kate should have been replaced if possible oh hey look that's you cool

Roxy's list of opinions is really a list of a lack thereof. None of these have any substance or conviction. Would lynch.

DrWilgy is a perpetual mystery to me (and I know he likes it that way). Would lynch.

As for the artist formerly known as Zenon, I don't understand the vote on me, and when I asked about it, I see I got a "Let's." Would lynch.

I would lynch Syn for putting [D3] in the beginning of the title because it throws me off regarding the "new posts since last view in this tab" feature.

[DrWilgy]

I'm taking a poo. Someone tell me who the wolf is and if it's not in Epi/Ex as to why I'm wrong on my other reads.

English is really weird for someone who thinks and speaks in a latin language.

I just think English is weird in general.

[DrWilgy]

I see unvote currently has a 50% chance of going over instead of me.

So that's reassuring.

hi! nice to meet you!
could you give me a quick rundown of your thoughts?

I'm sorry, I don't think I'm going to make it with the time I have. I haven't been home.

I presently would not lynch Wiml or Michelle. I realize that's probably not much help. I made a big ass case against WIml, but I think Wiml handled my whimsical turn as best as could be expected. Michelle reeks of genuine frustration.

I think Kate should have been replaced if possible oh hey look that's you cool

Roxy's list of opinions is really a list of a lack thereof. None of these have any substance or conviction. Would lynch.

DrWilgy is a perpetual mystery to me (and I know he likes it that way). Would lynch.

As for the artist formerly known as Zenon, I don't understand the vote on me, and when I asked about it, I see I got a "Let's." Would lynch.

I would lynch Syn for putting [D3] in the beginning of the title because it throws me off regarding the "new posts since last view in this tab" feature.

Abigail doesn't kill Falcon. Please advise.

[Epignosis]

Skimmed Epi's ISO and I don't think there's any solving in his D3 that isn't directly linked to self defence.

It's just his case on me, opening the PoE via having three nulls + one scumread, some LAMIST-y posts and trying to get people to stop using the PoE strat: all of which directly benefits him in survival.

I'm not seeing any evidence of him trying to solve outside of that.

Self-defense makes a great deal of sense. The way of the world now is to make a list and mow 'em down. I was next.

We may not use the same strategies, but I don't roll over when people vote me, and, on the rare instances when I am lynched as a civilian, I am going to make people feel silly for doing so.

In the days before locked Nights, I even had a wonderful gif of a late comedian to rub it in. I'll have it saved and ready to go if I do get the boot.

[Epignosis]

I see unvote currently has a 50% chance of going over instead of me.

So that's reassuring.

hi! nice to meet you!
could you give me a quick rundown of your thoughts?

I'm sorry, I don't think I'm going to make it with the time I have. I haven't been home.

I presently would not lynch Wiml or Michelle. I realize that's probably not much help. I made a big ass case against WIml, but I think Wiml handled my whimsical turn as best as could be expected. Michelle reeks of genuine frustration.

I think Kate should have been replaced if possible oh hey look that's you cool

Roxy's list of opinions is really a list of a lack thereof. None of these have any substance or conviction. Would lynch.

DrWilgy is a perpetual mystery to me (and I know he likes it that way). Would lynch.

As for the artist formerly known as Zenon, I don't understand the vote on me, and when I asked about it, I see I got a "Let's." Would lynch.

I would lynch Syn for putting [D3] in the beginning of the title because it throws me off regarding the "new posts since last view in this tab" feature.

Abigail doesn't kill Falcon. Please advise.

I thought falcon was a consensus civilian. Was I wrong on that point? I remember someone saying so.

[DrWilgy]

I see unvote currently has a 50% chance of going over instead of me.

So that's reassuring.

hi! nice to meet you!
could you give me a quick rundown of your thoughts?

I'm sorry, I don't think I'm going to make it with the time I have. I haven't been home.

I presently would not lynch Wiml or Michelle. I realize that's probably not much help. I made a big ass case against WIml, but I think Wiml handled my whimsical turn as best as could be expected. Michelle reeks of genuine frustration.

I think Kate should have been replaced if possible oh hey look that's you cool

Roxy's list of opinions is really a list of a lack thereof. None of these have any substance or conviction. Would lynch.

DrWilgy is a perpetual mystery to me (and I know he likes it that way). Would lynch.

As for the artist formerly known as Zenon, I don't understand the vote on me, and when I asked about it, I see I got a "Let's." Would lynch.

I would lynch Syn for putting [D3] in the beginning of the title because it throws me off regarding the "new posts since last view in this tab" feature.

Abigail doesn't kill Falcon. Please advise.

I thought falcon was a consensus civilian. Was I wrong on that point? I remember someone saying so.

Falc was, but also TRd Abigail. In terms of consensus town, T Wiml and T JJJ go before T Falcon I think.

[DrWilgy]

Skimmed Falcon.

Ignoring the dead, Falcon's concerns were on Epi/Kate. Falcon's questioning was on Wiml, Me, Roxy. Falcon's TRs were on Abigail and Michelle.

Abigail killing Falcon is low EV. I very much want to clear Abigail for this.

See above

[Epignosis]

Skimmed Falcon.

Ignoring the dead, Falcon's concerns were on Epi/Kate. Falcon's questioning was on Wiml, Me, Roxy. Falcon's TRs were on Abigail and Michelle.

Abigail killing Falcon is low EV. I very much want to clear Abigail for this.

See above

I see.

[Michelle]

I think Jay should be the N1 kill. Falcon dying before means the wolf wanted to obtain paranoia from villagers, but that didn't happen so Jay had to die N2.

[Epignosis]

I don't have the time or strength to read the rest of the pages.

Instead, you've got 22 minutes to ask me what you will before I walk the plank, and I will do my very best to answer.

[Epignosis]

Actually, I have to pee, so make that 20 minutes.

[Wiml]

Skimmed Epi's ISO and I don't think there's any solving in his D3 that isn't directly linked to self defence.

It's just his case on me, opening the PoE via having three nulls + one scumread, some LAMIST-y posts and trying to get people to stop using the PoE strat: all of which directly benefits him in survival.

I'm not seeing any evidence of him trying to solve outside of that.

Self-defense makes a great deal of sense. The way of the world now is to make a list and mow 'em down. I was next.

We may not use the same strategies, but I don't roll over when people vote me, and, on the rare instances when I am lynched as a civilian, I am going to make people feel silly for doing so.

In the days before locked Nights, I even had a wonderful gif of a late comedian to rub it in. I'll have it saved and ready to go if I do get the boot.

Self defence can be useful, sure, but do you not care about actually solving the game and finding wolves as well? I haven't seen much of that at all this phase.

Your current reads just seems like a big pool of mehs for you, have you not put any effort thus phase into narrowing that down?

[Wiml]

I think Jay should be the N1 kill. Falcon dying before means the wolf wanted to obtain paranoia from villagers, but that didn't happen so Jay had to die N2.

Alternatively, might have been because Falcon spent most of D1 voting for Epi whereas JJJ and I were going after Kate before Epi.

[Wiml]

I don't have the time or strength to read the rest of the pages.

Instead, you've got 22 minutes to ask me what you will before I walk the plank, and I will do my very best to answer.

Why are you town?

Self meta isn't great but it's worth a shot if you've got nothing better to do and maybe it'll bring something up.

Alternatively, who is the last wolf? Your reads list doesn't narrow it down.

[Epignosis]

Skimmed Epi's ISO and I don't think there's any solving in his D3 that isn't directly linked to self defence.

It's just his case on me, opening the PoE via having three nulls + one scumread, some LAMIST-y posts and trying to get people to stop using the PoE strat: all of which directly benefits him in survival.

I'm not seeing any evidence of him trying to solve outside of that.

Self-defense makes a great deal of sense. The way of the world now is to make a list and mow 'em down. I was next.

We may not use the same strategies, but I don't roll over when people vote me, and, on the rare instances when I am lynched as a civilian, I am going to make people feel silly for doing so.

In the days before locked Nights, I even had a wonderful gif of a late comedian to rub it in. I'll have it saved and ready to go if I do get the boot.

Self defence can be useful, sure, but do you not care about actually solving the game and finding wolves as well? I haven't seen much of that at all this phase.

Your current reads just seems like a big pool of mehs for you, have you not put any effort thus phase into narrowing that down?

I had my doubts about you. There was at least that.

I find it kind of funny the way you talk about yourself in the context of the game, as though you're not part of it.

[Wiml]

Didn't have time to go into as much detail on my Abigail read as I'd have liked today.

Still think she's likely town but would have liked to ISO her again to be thorough.

[Epignosis]

I don't have the time or strength to read the rest of the pages.

Instead, you've got 22 minutes to ask me what you will before I walk the plank, and I will do my very best to answer.

Why are you town?

It's what the host told me.

Alternatively, who is the last wolf? Your reads list doesn't narrow it down.

If I had the bloody answer to that question, we wouldn't be having this one.

[Wiml]

Skimmed Epi's ISO and I don't think there's any solving in his D3 that isn't directly linked to self defence.

It's just his case on me, opening the PoE via having three nulls + one scumread, some LAMIST-y posts and trying to get people to stop using the PoE strat: all of which directly benefits him in survival.

I'm not seeing any evidence of him trying to solve outside of that.

Self-defense makes a great deal of sense. The way of the world now is to make a list and mow 'em down. I was next.

We may not use the same strategies, but I don't roll over when people vote me, and, on the rare instances when I am lynched as a civilian, I am going to make people feel silly for doing so.

In the days before locked Nights, I even had a wonderful gif of a late comedian to rub it in. I'll have it saved and ready to go if I do get the boot.

Self defence can be useful, sure, but do you not care about actually solving the game and finding wolves as well? I haven't seen much of that at all this phase.

Your current reads just seems like a big pool of mehs for you, have you not put any effort thus phase into narrowing that down?

I had my doubts about you. There was at least that.

I find it kind of funny the way you talk about yourself in the context of the game, as though you're not part of it.

That's fair, the majority of my FM experience comes from solving as a spectator so that sometimes slips into my perspective.

But you dropped your doubts on me a while back + you still seemingly had a bunch of nulls at the time when you had doubts on me so I was expecting more effort put towards solving them if you're town.

[Epignosis]

Why do you call my list a big mess of nothing that narrows nothing down, but seem to be cool with Roxy's list of ambiguity?

[Wiml]

Why do you call my list a big mess of nothing that narrows nothing down, but seem to be cool with Roxy's list of ambiguity?

Because it seems personality-indicative from Roxy whereas from you it surprises me.

[DrWilgy]

[VOTE: Wiml] aubergine for science

[Epignosis]

Why do you call my list a big mess of nothing that narrows nothing down, but seem to be cool with Roxy's list of ambiguity?

Because it seems personality-indicative from Roxy whereas from you it surprises me.

Roxy called you cornered.

If anything, my case against you was bait.

[Wiml]

[VOTE: Wiml] aubergine for science

Flash wagons bad yada yada.

[DrWilgy]

[VOTE: Wiml] aubergine for science

Flash wagons bad yada yada.

Yada bada dooooo

[Wiml]

Why do you call my list a big mess of nothing that narrows nothing down, but seem to be cool with Roxy's list of ambiguity?

Because it seems personality-indicative from Roxy whereas from you it surprises me.

Roxy called you cornered.

If anything, my case against you was bait.

She called me cornered for not engaging with Michelle which seemed reasonable ifkr somebody who didn't understand why I was trying to avoid engaging with her.