DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 24, 2023 9:29 am
S~V~S wrote: ↑Thu Aug 24, 2023 6:57 am
OK, I did a quick skim of Guillos last dozen or so posts, and he doesn't seem particularly bad to me. I am not agreeing with what he's saying (obvs) but he's saying it in an open way.
I see Wilgy voted for him, and Wilgy has recent bad Guillo experience, so i want to see his opinion there, so I'll try to read back on them at work today. hasta la vista folks.
I mean the early Guillo vote was just that, an early Guillo vote. As it stands, they are in the realm of light sr to null. They continue to insist on silly worlds, I think I saw Wilgy/SVS as their proposed solve and they insist on "well there's one in Wilgy/Michelle and it's not Michelle" which feels like a forced perspective. I do think Epi's observations on how Guillo has postured you on fallback, scummy but always fallback, is Wolfy from Guillo and a good observation by Epi.
I've kinda touched on meta already,
Guillo is good at what I'd describe as "forced town perspective" and trying to be volume spewed. Their play this game feels very reminiscent of interactions I read between W Guillo and T Seanzie in the fame you referenced. While it's not something I'd say I'm confident of, it is something that scratches at my skull.
@LinearPoint I suppose you are correct. I thought this was valid in voicing the concern I had with Guillo's casing, but I was incorrect as I should've elaborated more.
#214 part 1 reflects on Guillo saying Michelle had the same reaction and the progression doesn't make sense from that perspective.
I think this is gross, Michelle joined thread seeing the gamestate was dead and then decided to do something about it. Went into discussing mechanics, sheeped a vote, etc. The progression in RVS makes sense and to scum read for that progression feels wrong to me.
Feels like an AHA! YOU TOOK THE BAIT, when taking the bait was actually completely NAI.
#215 is kinda shitty as it just kinda shames Michelle for trying to solve during RVS or at least push us through it. Even in meta, michelle finds that it's easier to tr players with a more jovial attitude, so why wouldn't Michelle use that to solve during rvs against fluff?
#216 Saying that Michelle is attempting to fake a derp? You would be well aware that's within my own MO, so I can kinda see it existing, BUT I have no way of knowing if Michelle would do that. Further Michelle discussing mech brought us out of RVS and was net positive for town.
#217 actually has a perceivable truth in it. I did think that Michelle's earlier posts reflected a W perspective and I can find parts to agree with in this one.
#220 is kinda gross. I get finding assoc's pre flip. Figuring out who's not W/W in order to accelerate the reduction of PoE makes sense. pre flip like it was done in isolation, does nothing but push the person of interest and reinforce a story that you shouldn't know as correct. IF #220 wasn't just a post to push the narrative, I'd expect more full preflip analysis from Guillo on everyone, especially when they are 'bored because the thread is dead.'
Does this iterate why I feel that Guillo's read on Michelle comes across as a false narrative?