Like the terrible elim you led yesterday without listening to any other player trying to point out that you could be wrong?leetic wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 11:39 amWhat makes zero sense about this? I've been through a similar situation before that ended up being disastrous for town and wanted to limit the damage in this game but it seems that PA is insistent on this terrible lynchRoxy wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 6:22 amlolololololololololololololololleetic wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 11:34 pmThe point was never to hold onto it for long. Ideally, Abigail would have rescinded, then I would immediately rescind afterwards, and nobody would have to be outedThunal33 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 11:30 pmAnother person claiming cop would make a hypothetical real cop outside you/Abi more likely to claim.leetic wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 11:12 pmHow are those contradictory statements? I rescinded the claim but an actual cop would have every right to be pissed off by this.Thunal33 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 11:08 pmLeetic: "your play is dangerous because it might out the real cop"☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 11:07 pm I think my favorite thing is the tripping over feet to simultaneously try to shade me and call my claim obviously fake
While also openly acknowledging that it is in fact not obviously fake by speculating about "the real cop"
Also leetic: "I claim cop"
Yeah, I'm comfortable calling Leetic mafia.
You kids are so hilarious.
This also makes zero sense and feels like scrambling what townie would do this?
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It was hardly "terrible", it was the best choice we could have made based on the evidence. LP's last post was a huge blunder for town and they could have easily saved themselves by claiming but didn't for some reason. The only thing that makes it super unfortunate is that they turned out to be a PR, but otherwise eliminating an inactive town is miles better than eliminating an active one. I'd like to point out that Dizzy, whose slot's testimony you depend on to SR me, was also on the wagonRoxy wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 11:47 amLike the terrible elim you led yesterday without listening to any other player trying to point out that you could be wrong?leetic wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 11:39 amWhat makes zero sense about this? I've been through a similar situation before that ended up being disastrous for town and wanted to limit the damage in this game but it seems that PA is insistent on this terrible lynchRoxy wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 6:22 amlolololololololololololololololleetic wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 11:34 pmThe point was never to hold onto it for long. Ideally, Abigail would have rescinded, then I would immediately rescind afterwards, and nobody would have to be outedThunal33 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 11:30 pmAnother person claiming cop would make a hypothetical real cop outside you/Abi more likely to claim.
You kids are so hilarious.
This also makes zero sense and feels like scrambling what townie would do this?
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Re: BEANS MAFIA - Night 1
You are using another players game on another site to describe a different player here if this is the right way to play I'm always going to play wrong.leetic wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 11:37 amAre you even paying attention? This is not a "meta read", it's me trying to understand what Abigail could possibly gain from a fakeclaimRoxy wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 5:56 amDoes anyone ever actuality follow these links and read them? I don't bc its useless to base reads on meta bc meta changes game to game. And if you say not me then I would ask - so you still play like your first game? Unsure of everything?leetic wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 11:28 pmMy perspective is perhaps biased because I played in a game where someone did exactlly that. https://www.flashflashrevolution.com/vb ... p?t=151853 See Mikey (flashflaash account) on D2 (would be considered D3 in this site's parlance)
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No, I am using an analagous situation to try to understand Abigail's behavior. I even concluded that that's probably not what happens, since Abigail has little reason to as confidently wolfread me as Mikey did with DBP. Are you even paying attention to my posts, since it seems like every single one of your responses to my posts is a massive strawman taking the single most bad-faith interpretationRoxy wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 11:51 amYou are using another players game on another site to describe a different player here if this is the right way to play I'm always going to play wrong.leetic wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 11:37 amAre you even paying attention? This is not a "meta read", it's me trying to understand what Abigail could possibly gain from a fakeclaimRoxy wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 5:56 amDoes anyone ever actuality follow these links and read them? I don't bc its useless to base reads on meta bc meta changes game to game. And if you say not me then I would ask - so you still play like your first game? Unsure of everything?leetic wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 11:28 pmMy perspective is perhaps biased because I played in a game where someone did exactlly that. https://www.flashflashrevolution.com/vb ... p?t=151853 See Mikey (flashflaash account) on D2 (would be considered D3 in this site's parlance)
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Re: BEANS MAFIA - Day 2
Nah that was yesterday when we lost our doc.
I hate games where people claim, it's subpar playing in my head.
What was the worst about yesterday is that you pushed an elim from one post, it was sad and if I was lp I would have played it the way they did.
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What do you make of my interactions with leetic vs Jack's?Thunal33 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 11:42 amI think at least one of Delta/Jack is scum from this assuming leetic is scum. I don't think leetic named 7 villagers.
You threw this out which is fine & kinda aligns with my thoughts from d1 but I'm more curious about how you read us outside of this statement

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Since when is it "subpar playing" for town to self-pres? Is this opposite day or something?
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Aren't you counting your chickens before they hatch? None of this will be useful when I flip town
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People need to realize that a red check isn't a mechanical out, especially when there is no reason to clear the cop. This is at least the third fake redcheck on me that I have dealt with, and that's not counting fake redchecks on other people
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@leetic
Out of the people voting you, who do you think has been towny in their approach vs wolfy?
Out of the people voting you, who do you think has been towny in their approach vs wolfy?

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I think Jack is scummier than you for reasons I talked about earlier in the day. Your interactions feel like a mixed bag so far, I'm a little paranoid leetic picked on you first but explaining what GTH is to you I think looks good.Delta wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 11:58 amWhat do you make of my interactions with leetic vs Jack's?Thunal33 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 11:42 amI think at least one of Delta/Jack is scum from this assuming leetic is scum. I don't think leetic named 7 villagers.
You threw this out which is fine & kinda aligns with my thoughts from d1 but I'm more curious about how you read us outside of this statement
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Re: BEANS MAFIA - Day 2
Look, if I had a claim that could save myself, I would do it. I'm just vanilla town unfortunatelyleetic wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 11:58 amSince when is it "subpar playing" for town to self-pres? Is this opposite day or something?
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l depend on no one else's read but my own. Why do I need someone else to tell me who to sus when I'm perfectly capable to do it myself?leetic wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 11:50 amIt was hardly "terrible", it was the best choice we could have made based on the evidence. LP's last post was a huge blunder for town and they could have easily saved themselves by claiming but didn't for some reason. The only thing that makes it super unfortunate is that they turned out to be a PR, but otherwise eliminating an inactive town is miles better than eliminating an active one. I'd like to point out that Dizzy, whose slot's testimony you depend on to SR me, was also on the wagonRoxy wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 11:47 amLike the terrible elim you led yesterday without listening to any other player trying to point out that you could be wrong?leetic wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 11:39 amWhat makes zero sense about this? I've been through a similar situation before that ended up being disastrous for town and wanted to limit the damage in this game but it seems that PA is insistent on this terrible lynchRoxy wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 6:22 amlolololololololololololololololleetic wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 11:34 pmThe point was never to hold onto it for long. Ideally, Abigail would have rescinded, then I would immediately rescind afterwards, and nobody would have to be outed
You kids are so hilarious.
This also makes zero sense and feels like scrambling what townie would do this?
The super unfortunate thing that happened yesterday was too many people followed you.
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Today I have 1 goose, at the end of the phase I'll have 0 geese.
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Re: BEANS MAFIA - Day 1
Ah, I mightve missed that post D: I'll go back and find it now, thank you \o/Thunal33 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 12:02 pmI think Jack is scummier than you for reasons I talked about earlier in the day. Your interactions feel like a mixed bag so far, I'm a little paranoid leetic picked on you first but explaining what GTH is to you I think looks good.Delta wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 11:58 amWhat do you make of my interactions with leetic vs Jack's?Thunal33 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 11:42 amI think at least one of Delta/Jack is scum from this assuming leetic is scum. I don't think leetic named 7 villagers.
You threw this out which is fine & kinda aligns with my thoughts from d1 but I'm more curious about how you read us outside of this statement
How are you feeling about those you mentioned at EOD1?

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Re: BEANS MAFIA - Day 2
As I said earlier, if Abigail is town (which I think is most likely, there is no reason for scum to make this gambit here) then wolves usually allow town to eat themselves. That would match up with pyxxy's behavior… and yours.
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I'm fine responding to you.leetic wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 11:53 amNo, I am using an analagous situation to try to understand Abigail's behavior. I even concluded that that's probably not what happens, since Abigail has little reason to as confidently wolfread me as Mikey did with DBP. Are you even paying attention to my posts, since it seems like every single one of your responses to my posts is a massive strawman taking the single most bad-faith interpretationRoxy wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 11:51 amYou are using another players game on another site to describe a different player here if this is the right way to play I'm always going to play wrong.leetic wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 11:37 amAre you even paying attention? This is not a "meta read", it's me trying to understand what Abigail could possibly gain from a fakeclaimRoxy wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 5:56 amDoes anyone ever actuality follow these links and read them? I don't bc its useless to base reads on meta bc meta changes game to game. And if you say not me then I would ask - so you still play like your first game? Unsure of everything?leetic wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 11:28 pmMy perspective is perhaps biased because I played in a game where someone did exactlly that. https://www.flashflashrevolution.com/vb ... p?t=151853 See Mikey (flashflaash account) on D2 (would be considered D3 in this site's parlance)
Offc I'm reading sorry you do not like what I'm saying.
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Re: BEANS MAFIA - Night 1
No, the unfortunate thing was that LP didn't claim when doing so would have saved them. That wasn't my faultRoxy wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 12:03 pml depend on no one else's read but my own. Why do I need someone else to tell me who to sus when I'm perfectly capable to do it myself?leetic wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 11:50 amIt was hardly "terrible", it was the best choice we could have made based on the evidence. LP's last post was a huge blunder for town and they could have easily saved themselves by claiming but didn't for some reason. The only thing that makes it super unfortunate is that they turned out to be a PR, but otherwise eliminating an inactive town is miles better than eliminating an active one. I'd like to point out that Dizzy, whose slot's testimony you depend on to SR me, was also on the wagonRoxy wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 11:47 amLike the terrible elim you led yesterday without listening to any other player trying to point out that you could be wrong?leetic wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 11:39 amWhat makes zero sense about this? I've been through a similar situation before that ended up being disastrous for town and wanted to limit the damage in this game but it seems that PA is insistent on this terrible lynchRoxy wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 6:22 amlololololololololololololololol
You kids are so hilarious.
This also makes zero sense and feels like scrambling what townie would do this?
The super unfortunate thing that happened yesterday was too many people followed you.
Why are people constantly defending anti-town plays here?
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Re: BEANS MAFIA - Day 2

Do you think your wagon is pure then? Because with this stance, there should be people approaching the check on you with TMI that it's on town. Do you think myself or pyxxy fit that role?

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I wouldn't say it's guaranteed, but I lean on my wagon being pure right now. Of course, there are people who haven't really shown up since said incident like Jack and Wilgy that it could also be. And I think you misunderstand, scum doesn't really have to approach this situation at all to get what they wantDelta wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 12:07 pmto that last part, I havent been here long enough to really catch up until now
Do you think your wagon is pure then? Because with this stance, there should be people approaching the check on you with TMI that it's on town. Do you think myself or pyxxy fit that role?
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Re: BEANS MAFIA - Day 1
A lot better about Epi than I did at EoD1, I did some meta comparison and I think his approach to me/Dizzy is fundamentally different from him going after hard targets as scum in the game we wolfed together. Below null on Wilgy since despite not having any reads he made the snap read that a leetic post was scummy. I thought it was fine in a vacuum, but if leetic is scum I'm concerned about it. I still sus Nanook for similar reasons of his posts seeming more concerned with how the thread sees him, and I sus Jack for similar reasons.Delta wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 12:04 pmAh, I mightve missed that post D: I'll go back and find it now, thank you \o/Thunal33 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 12:02 pmI think Jack is scummier than you for reasons I talked about earlier in the day. Your interactions feel like a mixed bag so far, I'm a little paranoid leetic picked on you first but explaining what GTH is to you I think looks good.Delta wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 11:58 amWhat do you make of my interactions with leetic vs Jack's?Thunal33 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 11:42 amI think at least one of Delta/Jack is scum from this assuming leetic is scum. I don't think leetic named 7 villagers.
You threw this out which is fine & kinda aligns with my thoughts from d1 but I'm more curious about how you read us outside of this statement
How are you feeling about those you mentioned at EOD1?
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I'm still disappointed that few if any people are using any critical thinking on the supposed redcheck
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Re: BEANS MAFIA - Day 2
This is similar to what I asked leetic last night.Delta wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 12:07 pmto that last part, I havent been here long enough to really catch up until now
Do you think your wagon is pure then? Because with this stance, there should be people approaching the check on you with TMI that it's on town. Do you think myself or pyxxy fit that role?
Do you have any non-leetic susses rn?
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Re: BEANS MAFIA - Day 2
Stop please.
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Why? It would be anti-town to just let this mislynch happen, even if I am cursed with the knowledge that there is little if anything I can do to prevent it
Also didn't you say you would stop responding to me?
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I am a little shaky on you after EOD, which is why I've pressed on you a little about it & prior to the redcheck I had said I was slightly worried about potentially being pocketed by leetic which is why I opened as I did. Still a few ?s when it comes to Nanook/Jack, but less so since Abi's talked about Nanook feeling as he usually does & I'm curious about the pyxxy EOD votes from Jack & LCThunal33 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 12:13 pmThis is similar to what I asked leetic last night.Delta wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 12:07 pmto that last part, I havent been here long enough to really catch up until now
Do you think your wagon is pure then? Because with this stance, there should be people approaching the check on you with TMI that it's on town. Do you think myself or pyxxy fit that role?
Do you have any non-leetic susses rn?
Outside of that, I do feel like I have more solidified townreads than I do actual scumreads, which feels like a weird reversal of my game since I tend to try find scum first? But I think Roxy/SVS are both solidly town irrespective of what leetic flips. Abi is almost always town regardless & I agree on Epi being likely town based on my own understanding of how he plays wolf, even if it was only 1 game :wowee:

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I feel like my eod reads to now have kinda flipped and I dont really know what to make of it x_x but sorting through things nonetheless

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Re: BEANS MAFIA - Day 2
Yeah, I agree on all those townreads. My scumlean on Jack is stronger than my one on Nanook, I feel like Nanook's few posts today are decent for tiny reasons like calling the redcheck based.Delta wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 12:19 pmI am a little shaky on you after EOD, which is why I've pressed on you a little about it & prior to the redcheck I had said I was slightly worried about potentially being pocketed by leetic which is why I opened as I did. Still a few ?s when it comes to Nanook/Jack, but less so since Abi's talked about Nanook feeling as he usually does & I'm curious about the pyxxy EOD votes from Jack & LCThunal33 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 12:13 pmThis is similar to what I asked leetic last night.Delta wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 12:07 pmto that last part, I havent been here long enough to really catch up until now
Do you think your wagon is pure then? Because with this stance, there should be people approaching the check on you with TMI that it's on town. Do you think myself or pyxxy fit that role?
Do you have any non-leetic susses rn?
Outside of that, I do feel like I have more solidified townreads than I do actual scumreads, which feels like a weird reversal of my game since I tend to try find scum first? But I think Roxy/SVS are both solidly town irrespective of what leetic flips. Abi is almost always town regardless & I agree on Epi being likely town based on my own understanding of how he plays wolf, even if it was only 1 game :wowee:
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Re: BEANS MAFIA - Day 2
@DrWilgy @Jackofhearts2005 Tagging since you are the two who haven't really shown up after the false redcheck. If either of you have bight actions that could have caused this to happen, you need to claim asap.
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Well, if I'm really gonna die here, someone is gonna have to take my place as the super vocal townie
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Re: BEANS MAFIA - Day 2
Despite everything, I still want town to win this, if only because my w/l ratio on this site is still absolutely terrible. Still, if town wants to make that happen, they really have to put in the work, and I still strongly recommend that y'all will prepare for the eventuality that I will flip town
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I tried my best this game, but there's only so much one person can do. I still want to pressure people, but when all they'll talk about is the fake redcheck what's the point?
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I guess I expect players here to have some baseline competence. But that turned out to be my undoing
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Re: BEANS MAFIA - Day 2
do I have to ;_;
I'm free if you want to talk outside of the red check, what are you thinking rn?

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Re: BEANS MAFIA - Day 2
Since you asked me the question, do you think any votes on me look bad if I'm town?
I invite @Thunal33 to answer this as well
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Re: BEANS MAFIA - Day 2
Long Con's reaction to Abi's claim is odd & their later posts treating you as if you're boxed in feels especially weird, I think regardless of what you flip.
So I would say LC more than anyone else on the wagon

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Re: BEANS MAFIA - Day 2
Do you think there's anything weird about pyxxy's reaction or lack thereof?Delta wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 1:09 pmLong Con's reaction to Abi's claim is odd & their later posts treating you as if you're boxed in feels especially weird, I think regardless of what you flip.
So I would say LC more than anyone else on the wagon
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Re: BEANS MAFIA - Day 2
Notably, they even responded to one of my posts without discussing the elephant in the roomleetic wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 1:11 pmDo you think there's anything weird about pyxxy's reaction or lack thereof?Delta wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 1:09 pmLong Con's reaction to Abi's claim is odd & their later posts treating you as if you're boxed in feels especially weird, I think regardless of what you flip.
So I would say LC more than anyone else on the wagon
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Re: BEANS MAFIA - Night 1
This is the shift I'm on about, it doesnt feel all too natural and I think it can be both v/w and w/w. It's just super odd x_x

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Re: BEANS MAFIA - Day 2
Also, I think I surpassed my record for most posts in a single game! Not bad for a (likely) D2 mislynch
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Re: BEANS MAFIA - Day 2
I don't think any look clearly bad, but I think Epi and SVS's both look good regardless of your flip and perhaps even better if you flip town. Both had pretty transparent thought processes before coming to confident conclusions that you're mafia. If you're town I'd expect maf to be more likely to hedge on you.
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