Guitar Mafia [Day 3]

[S~V~S]

Sorry for the ugly screenshot, I’m not great at images on phone

[Scotty]

[VOTE: S~V~S] aubergine My good friend was too aggressive in pushing the idea that my silly list was sinister. Made me suspicious.

Bteer vote me then too as there was no "Timmer" vote until you and hal showed up.

I will be voting one of you today.

oops I misread this-
So you’re voting between LC and Hal today, gotcha

Why am I not on the list, since you are suspecting them for something I was more responsible for?

[Scotty]

[VOTE: hal] aubergine

Spicy but I don’t think that helps.

Why jump off jpic for a completely diff wagon?

How is my vote for a player I've been SRing spicy? Why doesn't it help?

Early vote for someone that didn’t have any traction at that point and someone I thought was ringing a lot of towny vibes early on

I’ve since changed my hat

[Scotty]

LCs first mention of Timmer was his list, his next mention of Timmer was voting for him.

Yeah definitely a joke list

Now really bbl

IYour gonna work when you're just telling outright. lies.

I stand corrected; THIS was your first mention of Timmer:

My guitar is frikkin' SICK, wow! I am the best role. Timmer, what do the evil guitars look like?

A "jokey" implication he was evil.

Your SECOND post you mentioned Timmer was the list, where you had him as bad, and the third was your vote for him.

Not sure what "outright lies" I'm telling here.

The "evil" guitars thing, meh, I could call that just Day One trashtalk, but seriously, go look at your own ISO.

Obviously saying my first mention of Timmer being bad was the list... was the lie.

You still don't have it right.

“Lie” is extreme, overlooking an OT post was more like it.

Open your iso, and search it for “Timmer”. The first time you yourself mentioned him was in the evil guitar post.



This is a silly thing to be arguing. How about “Other than fluff, the list was your first on topic mention of Timmer, and your vote was next”? That better?

Let’s say LC is just Big Ole Town Clown(tm)
Who’s your next scumread up?

Probably you tbh. I see Halyn is taking some sus but they are relating to me the way town Halyn usually does. jpic and Falcon jumped right in when they arrived, and Roxy is playing an open game, which I associate with her.

You seem a tad more “throwing shit and seeing what sticks” than I usually associate with town you.

oh?

Do you even remember what bad me looks like? I’ve literally had 21 straight town rolls (22 if you count the reroll) so you associating me with a town me must mean you can really remember what a scum me is like

[Scotty]

@S~V~S and if this is an ‘open’ Roxy game, what does a ‘closed’ one look like? My association with closed is a bit tunneled and not open for business with anyone else in mind, which I’m seeing more of here

[S~V~S]

@S~V~S and if this is an ‘open’ Roxy game, what does a ‘closed’ one look like? My association with closed is a bit tunneled and not open for business with anyone else in mind, which I’m seeing more of here

Reread her in your Se7en game. That's my town Rox standard. She looks like that to me here.

And no, I've never seen you bad, or at least not since before my break. I didn't mention your bad game, though, I said you looked a certain way to me compared to your town game.

[Justplayingitcool]

Hi roxy why is lc mafia

Why was timmer Maf?

Wanted to sheep scotty. In hindsight a terrible idea

But yeah seanzie dying gives absolutely no info which is a shame

[S~V~S]

@S~V~S and if this is an ‘open’ Roxy game, what does a ‘closed’ one look like? My association with closed is a bit tunneled and not open for business with anyone else in mind, which I’m seeing more of here

Reread her in your Se7en game. That's my town Rox standard. She looks like that to me here.

And no, I've never seen you bad, or at least not since before my break. I didn't mention your bad game, though, I said you looked a certain way to me compared to your town game.

ebwop, and it wasn't in a good way lol

[falcon45ca]

Seanzie's death was probably one of the best ones for town.





If he didn't enter the game this RD, and given that he hadn't shown any signs of playing, he'd be mislynched for sure

[falcon45ca]

I'm pretty sure he'd already come up as an option D1

[falcon45ca]

Hi roxy why is lc mafia

Why was timmer Maf?

Wanted to sheep scotty. In hindsight a terrible idea

But yeah seanzie dying gives absolutely no info which is a shame

Why sheep Scotty? Talk to me about you town read on him

[Justplayingitcool]

Hi roxy why is lc mafia

Why was timmer Maf?

Wanted to sheep scotty. In hindsight a terrible idea

But yeah seanzie dying gives absolutely no info which is a shame

Why sheep Scotty? Talk to me about you town read on him

When me, scotty and long con were talking i just felt like good vibes

Though i did have some mild scotty tinfoil during the night. Need to go back and check why he was ok with a timmer yeet and not seanzie

[Justplayingitcool]

Idk seanzie kill reads to me that mafia are trying to musdy the waters as much as possible. One one hand it’s good because that’s a potential misyeet gone but the other we have about as much as info as day 1

[Scotty]

@S~V~S and if this is an ‘open’ Roxy game, what does a ‘closed’ one look like? My association with closed is a bit tunneled and not open for business with anyone else in mind, which I’m seeing more of here

Reread her in your Se7en game. That's my town Rox standard. She looks like that to me here.

And no, I've never seen you bad, or at least not since before my break. I didn't mention your bad game, though, I said you looked a certain way to me compared to your town game.

lol by saying ‘you don’t look like your town game’ literally means you have something else to compare it to.

I don’t even know how I’m playing in comparison to other games- I just am. Beans mafia (i think) I was hard pressed for time because I was moving and that one was definitely off for sure, and I can’t even remember the game after where I was the D1.

This all seems so nebulous

[Scotty]

Hi roxy why is lc mafia

Why was timmer Maf?

Wanted to sheep scotty. In hindsight a terrible idea

But yeah seanzie dying gives absolutely no info which is a shame

I’m a dog, you should always sheep a dog

[Scotty]

Seanzie's death was probably one of the best ones for town.





If he didn't enter the game this RD, and given that he hadn't shown any signs of playing, he'd be mislynched for sure

Yeah two options I can think of for Seanzie dying-
1) someone is scared of Seanzie should he show up,
2) the mafia is not a low poster and we should be looking at the high posters *checks notes*

Wait no, not the 2nd one

[Scotty]

Hi roxy why is lc mafia

Why was timmer Maf?

Wanted to sheep scotty. In hindsight a terrible idea

But yeah seanzie dying gives absolutely no info which is a shame

Why sheep Scotty? Talk to me about you town read on him

When me, scotty and long con were talking i just felt like good vibes

Though i did have some mild scotty tinfoil during the night. Need to go back and check why he was ok with a timmer yeet and not seanzie

Timmer’s minimal presence in thread was enough to make me go ‘well, he’s trying to appear here without actually doing anything’ whereas a 0-poster literally wasn’t even here. I still feel like it was a good attempt in hindsight, because if he were wolf, he could’ve just coasted to victory.

[Scotty]

Idk seanzie kill reads to me that mafia are trying to musdy the waters as much as possible. One one hand it’s good because that’s a potential misyeet gone but the other we have about as much as info as day 1

Yeah, I guess #3 reason is just….we learn nothing.

[falcon45ca]

Seanzie's death was probably one of the best ones for town.





If he didn't enter the game this RD, and given that he hadn't shown any signs of playing, he'd be mislynched for sure

Yeah two options I can think of for Seanzie dying-
1) someone is scared of Seanzie should he show up,
2) the mafia is not a low poster and we should be looking at the high posters *checks notes*

Wait no, not the 2nd one

Who are your top scum reads right now, and why?

[S~V~S]

@S~V~S and if this is an ‘open’ Roxy game, what does a ‘closed’ one look like? My association with closed is a bit tunneled and not open for business with anyone else in mind, which I’m seeing more of here

Reread her in your Se7en game. That's my town Rox standard. She looks like that to me here.

And no, I've never seen you bad, or at least not since before my break. I didn't mention your bad game, though, I said you looked a certain way to me compared to your town game.

lol by saying ‘you don’t look like your town game’ literally means you have something else to compare it to.

I don’t even know how I’m playing in comparison to other games- I just am. Beans mafia (i think) I was hard pressed for time because I was moving and that one was definitely off for sure, and I can’t even remember the game after where I was the D1.

This all seems so nebulous

No it really doesn’t mean that. It means I’m comparing this to times I’ve seen you town and it doesn’t look the same to me.

If I’ve only ever seen apples, then I see an orange, I can say that “that doesn’t look like an Apple”. I don’t need to have seen any other fruit tbh to know the orange isn’t an apple.

This is a nit picky argument on your part and is the type of thing I had in mind when I said you felt like you were throwing things to see what sticks.

[falcon45ca]

[VOTE: scotty] aubergine

[Justplayingitcool]

Vote: scotty

Feeling dangerous

[falcon45ca]

Ok time to get some discussion going

If we’re all part of a band, (all playing guitar) and some are trying to sabotage our show, I ask anyone that’s here:
-what kind of guitar do you play? What does it look like?
-are you more of a support or do you want the solos?
-what is your ideal venue?

Go

* My friends son is trying to get this guitar for Christmas. My friends husband isn't sure the son is serious enough about it to justify the expense. It's acoustic electric which apparently amplifies the acoustic sound primarily for stage use; hubby isn't sure Sonny needs that. We'll see. My friend think she'll chip in half if her son manages to save half. But to get to the question, I'd play this. I think it's gorgeous, and since I failed at lessons, as an acoustic I wouldn't much be harrassing others when I play it.



*Support. IRL I think I'd make a fab personal assistant, I love pulling the strings and making things happen in the background. So standing in the background, mentally planning the bands next move, holding my lovely guitar without actually playing it, would be the place for me. A place where I could watch people rather than them watching me. This is what I'd like, but it seldom happens lol. I generally try pushing the front man out of the way , with varied degrees of success.

*For a band I was in? Someplace dark with a large stage I could fade back on. For a band I worked for? A place with an office with plants and a big window I could use to figure out who was trying to sabotage us by poring over concert footage.

Tell your friend to get the plug-in acoustic...they typically have on-board tuners, and are really not that much more than a traditional acoustic. If they ever do play the guitar on a stage or in a band situation, it's significantly easier to just plug in the guitar, rather than get a mic stand all set up & have to worry about bumping it or moving out of range, and it'll be easy to sell if it comes to that

[Scotty]

@S~V~S and if this is an ‘open’ Roxy game, what does a ‘closed’ one look like? My association with closed is a bit tunneled and not open for business with anyone else in mind, which I’m seeing more of here

Reread her in your Se7en game. That's my town Rox standard. She looks like that to me here.

And no, I've never seen you bad, or at least not since before my break. I didn't mention your bad game, though, I said you looked a certain way to me compared to your town game.

lol by saying ‘you don’t look like your town game’ literally means you have something else to compare it to.

I don’t even know how I’m playing in comparison to other games- I just am. Beans mafia (i think) I was hard pressed for time because I was moving and that one was definitely off for sure, and I can’t even remember the game after where I was the D1.

This all seems so nebulous

No it really doesn’t mean that. It means I’m comparing this to times I’ve seen you town and it doesn’t look the same to me.

If I’ve only ever seen apples, then I see an orange, I can say that “that doesn’t look like an Apple”. I don’t need to have seen any other fruit tbh to know the orange isn’t an apple.

This is a nit picky argument on your part and is the type of thing I had in mind when I said you felt like you were throwing things to see what sticks.

Nit-picky? I’m defending myself to your argument that I don’t look town. Yeah I’m throwing things- you’re throwing shoes at me so I’m throwing socks back

[Scotty]

Seanzie's death was probably one of the best ones for town.





If he didn't enter the game this RD, and given that he hadn't shown any signs of playing, he'd be mislynched for sure

Yeah two options I can think of for Seanzie dying-
1) someone is scared of Seanzie should he show up,
2) the mafia is not a low poster and we should be looking at the high posters *checks notes*

Wait no, not the 2nd one

Who are your top scum reads right now, and why?

I’ve explained Hal, and I’m starting to come around on SVs being bad too

[Scotty]

[VOTE: SVS] aubergine

I think your argument here is a bit too myopic and I don’t think you believe what you’re saying

[Scotty]

Vote: scotty

Feeling dangerous

Tell me about your tinfoil on me and why you’re wearing that hat

[Scotty]

Someone should vote timmer today just for fun

[falcon45ca]

weird catch up is weird.

I will not vote hal tho they are most sus

Will probs be voting a no show

If you most suspect Hal, why not vote there?

you really asking me this?

I have never played with them before afaik
So they get day 1 free from my vote.

I figured as much in my read but you didn’t expressly say so.

I’m in the same boat of not wanting to vote for people I don’t know D1.

I also don’t know if I *do* scumread Hal.

Is your suspicion mostly hinging on the comment about math that i initially called them out on?

Probability and statistics math is not my strong point; but their math didn't fly for me tbh. Isn't every ones chance every randomization the same each time? I mean aren't the majority of the players in a second rerand going to come back Vanilla like they did the first time?

I'm not a math whiz either, but I know that the probability of rolling a 6 ten times in a row is like 0.000002% (gambling). Each roll is a 1/6 chance, but it's the consecutive nature of the roll (or in this case rand) which decreases the likelihood substantially

[falcon45ca]

@S~V~S Can you give us a lil run down on how you're currently reading players?

[falcon45ca]

Seanzie's death was probably one of the best ones for town.





If he didn't enter the game this RD, and given that he hadn't shown any signs of playing, he'd be mislynched for sure

Yeah two options I can think of for Seanzie dying-
1) someone is scared of Seanzie should he show up,
2) the mafia is not a low poster and we should be looking at the high posters *checks notes*

Wait no, not the 2nd one

Who are your top scum reads right now, and why?

I’ve explained Hal, and I’m starting to come around on SVs being bad too

So until recently, it's just been Hal?




Talk to me about JPIC & LC plz

[Long Con]

Hal/Roxy

T-T. T-W. W-T. Fine....I don't buy W-W for them. If they are, then I'll applaud politely.

I stand corrected; THIS was your first mention of Timmer:

My guitar is frikkin' SICK, wow! I am the best role. Timmer, what do the evil guitars look like?

A "jokey" implication he was evil.

Your SECOND post you mentioned Timmer was the list, where you had him as bad, and the third was your vote for him.

Not sure what "outright lies" I'm telling here.

The "evil" guitars thing, meh, I could call that just Day One trashtalk, but seriously, go look at your own ISO.

Obviously saying my first mention of Timmer being bad was the list... was the lie.

You still don't have it right.

“Lie” is extreme, overlooking an OT post was more like it.

Open your iso, and search it for “Timmer”. The first time you yourself mentioned him was in the evil guitar post.

This is a silly thing to be arguing.

Maybe. Maybe it's a telling thing to be arguing, probably better to think that way in a game like this. And you obviously didn't search for "Timmerman", Miss Read the ISO... I accused him earlier than even the evil guitar comment.

Like, maybe a silly thing to be arguing, so why is it happening? It's a silly thing altogether, but you made it a thing and then neglected due diligence on my ISO, and Y'KNOW, when I'm searching for clues in an ISO, I READ the posts because context is ESSENTIAL when trying to understand the subtleties of a wolf's deception. Typing in a search term is NOT the way that one looks through ISOs when they're doing detective work, it is how a Wolf looks for a gotcha.

You are that Wolf, and you are caught.

Idk seanzie kill reads to me that mafia are trying to musdy the waters as much as possible. One one hand it’s good because that’s a potential misyeet gone but the other we have about as much as info as day 1

I thought it was kind of a 'generous to the spirit of the game' move by the baddies, and I respected that. But now I've read these alternate perspectives, and maybe they killed a non-player because they like the way the winds are blowing. They like the gamestate as it is. Which could mean quiet Wolves, or it could mean confident Wolves.

[Long Con]

Marked Safe from Daylight Saving Time change

[hal]

wowee there's actual content without my involvement, time to muck things up.

[Justplayingitcool]

Vote: scotty

Feeling dangerous

Tell me about your tinfoil on me and why you’re wearing that hat

Honestly there’s nothing more to it other than the timmer and seanzie thing which i know you explained so i just wanted to mildly explore it probably will change my mind and hard tinfoil someone else

[Justplayingitcool]

Falcon is definitely my strongest townread though

[falcon45ca]

Marked Safe from Daylight Saving Time change

You're in SK as well?

[Long Con]

Marked Safe from Daylight Saving Time change

You're in SK as well?

ON, my friend.

[Justplayingitcool]

you lot are a week behind, daylight savings was last sunday

[falcon45ca]

Saskatchewan doesn't do DLS, so no clock roll back

[Long Con]

Saskatchewan doesn't do DLS, so no clock roll back

Truly a more advanced society.

[falcon45ca]

wowee there's actual content without my involvement, time to muck things up.

[S~V~S]

@Long Con can you show me the post where you shaded Timmer earlier without saying “Timmer”?

Because searching your ISO for “Timmer” doesn’t back up what you’re saying.

[Long Con]

9 players, so whaddawe got? 2 mafia? Roxy and Timmerman. GG

[S~V~S]

wowee there's actual content without my involvement, time to muck things up.

Ok this made me smile.

[S~V~S]

9 players, so whaddawe got? 2 mafia? Roxy and Timmerman. GG

Timmerman. Lol.

Actually this reinforces my thoughts on you. This was a manufactured suspicion. The fact that you pushed back so hard against me, and you knew what I meant, but are all smug about”Timmerman” to the point of calling me a liar.

[VOTE: Long Con] aubergine

Love,Miss ISO

[S~V~S]

[VOTE: SVS] aubergine

I think your argument here is a bit too myopic and I don’t think you believe what you’re saying

You think I don’t believe your semantics argument was bullshit? I thought I was pretty clear.

[Long Con]

9 players, so whaddawe got? 2 mafia? Roxy and Timmerman. GG

Timmerman. Lol.

Actually this reinforces my thoughts on you. This was a manufactured suspicion. The fact that you pushed back so hard against me, and you knew what I meant, but are all smug about”Timmerman” to the point of calling me a liar.

[VOTE: Long Con] aubergine

Love,Miss ISO

Ok, fine, but for the record, I literally told you about "Timmerman" in the post where I called you Miss ISO. I told you there were two references earlier than the list even farther back, and when you came back with the one, I said it's not right and told you why the oversight. I don't think I was being smug about it, I think I was being helpful.

[Long Con]

LCs first mention of Timmer was his list, his next mention of Timmer was voting for him.

Yeah definitely a joke list

Now really bbl

IYour gonna work when you're just telling outright. lies.

I stand corrected.... [snip]

Looking back, just want to address this, because it's funny. That is some voice-to-text on my phone posting, combined with the fact that I need glasses now and that text is so tiny. Not sure what the sensible sentence looks like, but the meaning came through just fine, I guess.

[falcon45ca]

[VOTE: hal] aubergine