Guitar Mafia [Day 3]

[Long Con]

Also that was very defensive

you are damn right it is defensive why should I not be defensive?

Is that your default mode, and you only stop being defensive by conscious decision? I would tend to *start* being defensive for a reason, not auto-defensive and then see if there's a reason to stop. You don't even have any votes.

[Scotty]

Good thing y’all don’t post much for when I’m busy

Also, pocketing exists.

Who is this talking about? I can’t figure it out

[Scotty]

Would mafia!scotty kill seanzie

Still find it a weird kill

What kind of question is this?

Would mafia!anyone kill Seanzie?

Just a random question into a void. Sure I’d kill him it helped my game. I’m not actually sure how it does help my game, but if it did I’d kill anyone

[Long Con]

Good thing y’all don’t post much for when I’m busy

Also, pocketing exists.

Who is this talking about? I can’t figure it out

You and me.

[Scotty]

I find it hard to believe that, with likely 2 Maf, they were both on timmers wagon. That's just bad policy.




Hal is the best chop today IMO. They've done literally no hunting this RD, and I'd argue they did very little last RD. They were around for EOD, but it purely seemed to thread monitor for self pres.




I'd like to hear thoughts on JPIC from @Scotty @Long Con

To your first point, I did just check and hal has checked in since this, and:

unsure i'm not being completely pummeled here, especially because i dropped off the face of the planet this cycle, i did expect to die here but whatever. i've been extremely busy recently and i can't be on for eod. and i will be present d3

apologies for the inactivity

Indubitably.

Hal’s got nothing going and I don’t want to say it’s AI. I mean, timmer also wasn’t here. Inactivity doesn’t mean they fell asleep at the dinner table with the murder weapon in their hand. But it also does nothing to move the needle.


To your second point on jpic: scumlean. He’s adding enough to the table to bring a sleuthing viewpoints, but there’s something…noncommittal about them? That could just be how town jpic hunts, but i don’t feel confident with calling him town atm. Curious on others thoughts.

[Scotty]

I'd like to hear thoughts on JPIC from Long Con

I just read over his ISO and I feel pretty towny about him. He'd be shaded a notch more green than Roxy and hal if I remade my list.

Is there something specific you're reading in their ISO that gives you the towny vibes?





Ditto Roxy & Hal plz

@Long Con inwas gonna ask this same question and I see you never answered it

[Scotty]

Also that was very defensive

you are damn right it is defensive why should I not be defensive?

Ok just reading all of Roxy’s posts on this page make me think she’s just town lol

Like totally town. Can’t explain it very well, but the way she leans into people in a ‘guilty until proven innocent and even then probably still guilty’ way is how I associate town Roxy.

So that’s helpful

[Scotty]

I know when im mafia i have the habit of being a lot more structured in my thoughts and i’d be more careful in who i label as my town/mafia reads

Can you link me to one of your mafia games? Or at least tell me on this site and I can go look it up?

I’d be very curious how you did behave as mafia

[falcon45ca]

I find it hard to believe that, with likely 2 Maf, they were both on timmers wagon. That's just bad policy.




Hal is the best chop today IMO. They've done literally no hunting this RD, and I'd argue they did very little last RD. They were around for EOD, but it purely seemed to thread monitor for self pres.




I'd like to hear thoughts on JPIC from @Scotty @Long Con

To your first point, I did just check and hal has checked in since this, and:

unsure i'm not being completely pummeled here, especially because i dropped off the face of the planet this cycle, i did expect to die here but whatever. i've been extremely busy recently and i can't be on for eod. and i will be present d3

apologies for the inactivity

Indubitably.

Hal’s got nothing going and I don’t want to say it’s AI. I mean, timmer also wasn’t here. Inactivity doesn’t mean they fell asleep at the dinner table with the murder weapon in their hand. But it also does nothing to move the needle.


To your second point on jpic: scumlean. He’s adding enough to the table to bring a sleuthing viewpoints, but there’s something…noncommittal about them? That could just be how town jpic hunts, but i don’t feel confident with calling him town atm. Curious on others thoughts.

Well, timmer just didn't have content...Hal has dropped off a cliff, and then they expect to die here but whatever?




If not Maf, that's just anti town

[Scotty]

Does mafia!long con label half the team as mafia lol

Here’s another one of those questions into the void without an answerable answer.

Does town!jpic give pep talks to himself in the mirror before a date?

[Scotty]

scotty stuff:

Spoiler: show

Ahh doesn’t day end soon?

What are we doing? Right now it’s LC

Anyone around???

I am guessing Scotty did not want LC elimmed

[VOTE: jpic] aubergine

Ties aren’t a no lynch right?

voting all over the map EXCEPT LC

[VOTE: hal] aubergine

This was ootb (out of the blue)

Let it rand

[VOTE: hal] aubergine

why

because

For literally no reason

@Scotty why'd you vote me, i thought you said i was a bad d1 on multiple occasions

I was trying to be spicy

Can’t I be spicy?

I am sorry there was a reason - he wanted to be spicy - yah ok but I am not buying it

Ok well if game is still going, I’d prefer a timmer vote

Now coming back around to Timmer since there was a more receptive audience for that elim

Hal hanging out here at end of day without adding much since the Roxy thunderdome is a bad vibe. That’s more of why I voted there

Added this reasoning after the fact instead of spicy he now has come up with reasons

now the question is, is scotty clear for the derp?

lol no that’s stupid

Derp is gonna deep regardless of if I’m a dirty wolfboi

yeah wolfboy indeed

[VOTE: timmer] aubergine

finally getting his Timmer vote in

Is there any world in which LC and timmer are scumbuddies?

Like, in a probably 7v2, wolves will be screwed if one dies d1

shading the shadiest player lol


Scotty's Day 1 felt like an awful lot of shit throwing to see what was gonna stick he was all over the map with many different reasons given, none of them were outstanding, all were just seeing what was going to fly.

Me no likey.

[/spoiler]
Frankly, there’s not a lot to respond to here. You disagree with how I go about D1’s and that is suspicious to you.



i do appreciate the solving tho, keep going. You’re just wrong on me

[falcon45ca]

Does mafia!long con label half the team as mafia lol

Here’s another one of those questions into the void without an answerable answer.

Does town!jpic give pep talks to himself in the mirror before a date?

Yes, but who are they pushing? Scummy Hal and a dash of LC






Do you think the timmer wagon was pure?

[Long Con]

I'd like to hear thoughts on JPIC from Long Con

I just read over his ISO and I feel pretty towny about him. He'd be shaded a notch more green than Roxy and hal if I remade my list.

Is there something specific you're reading in their ISO that gives you the towny vibes?





Ditto Roxy & Hal plz

@Long Con inwas gonna ask this same question and I see you never answered it

I just read through their ISO and I didn't find anything that made me suspicious.

[Long Con]

Guys, it's not unusual to have more scum leans on a list on day one than there are scum.

[Scotty]

I was v surprised Scotty has voted SVS. I couldn't really find any reason. Except for - myopic.

Like what?

Wants me to read SVS for him - uh no. Not gonna happen. Get your own read.

???

SVS: “you could be bad because you’re not looking like your civ self”
Me: “that means you’re using a reference of what my bad self looks like.”
SVS: “no, you’re just not good I sense a disturbance in the force”

But of creative license there but I find the suspicion she has of me shallow.

[falcon45ca]

I was v surprised Scotty has voted SVS. I couldn't really find any reason. Except for - myopic.

Like what?

Wants me to read SVS for him - uh no. Not gonna happen. Get your own read.

???

SVS: “you could be bad because you’re not looking like your civ self”
Me: “that means you’re using a reference of what my bad self looks like.”
SVS: “no, you’re just not good I sense a disturbance in the force”

But of creative license there but I find the suspicion she has of me shallow.

Fair, she hasn't been able to back that up...not sure if that's enough tho, gut feels are real

[Justplayingitcool]

Would mafia!scotty kill seanzie

Still find it a weird kill

What kind of question is this?

Would mafia!anyone kill Seanzie?

Just a random question into a void. Sure I’d kill him it helped my game. I’m not actually sure how it does help my game, but if it did I’d kill anyone

Im just trying to find out the mafia’s thought process to kill seanzie

[falcon45ca]

Guys, it's not unusual to have more scum leans on a list on day one than there are scum.

You're ignoring the issue that you had scum leans on players who hadn't posted or really done anything at all

[Scotty]

Good thing y’all don’t post much for when I’m busy

Also, pocketing exists.

Who is this talking about? I can’t figure it out

You and me.

Ah sure sure

Do you feel pocketed by me? I haven’t really thought about the perception- I just think your play has been so off the cuff and zany it reads as too wolfy to be Wilgy - add on that it reminds me of your last game where you were town, and I just don’t want to believe it

[Justplayingitcool]

I know when im mafia i have the habit of being a lot more structured in my thoughts and i’d be more careful in who i label as my town/mafia reads

Can you link me to one of your mafia games? Or at least tell me on this site and I can go look it up?

I’d be very curious how you did behave as mafia

I haven’t played as mafia in a while because 2 year hiatus. Last time i played mafia was in MU’s champs i believe

https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/th ... ampionship

[falcon45ca]

9 players, so whaddawe got? 2 mafia? Roxy and Timmerman. GG

You voted timmer who literally did Jack and Shit, basically a 0 poster

[Justplayingitcool]

Does mafia!long con label half the team as mafia lol

Here’s another one of those questions into the void without an answerable answer.

Does town!jpic give pep talks to himself in the mirror before a date?

Yes

[falcon45ca]

[VOTE: lC] aubergine

[Scotty]

I find it hard to believe that, with likely 2 Maf, they were both on timmers wagon. That's just bad policy.




Hal is the best chop today IMO. They've done literally no hunting this RD, and I'd argue they did very little last RD. They were around for EOD, but it purely seemed to thread monitor for self pres.




I'd like to hear thoughts on JPIC from @Scotty @Long Con

To your first point, I did just check and hal has checked in since this, and:

unsure i'm not being completely pummeled here, especially because i dropped off the face of the planet this cycle, i did expect to die here but whatever. i've been extremely busy recently and i can't be on for eod. and i will be present d3

apologies for the inactivity

Indubitably.

Hal’s got nothing going and I don’t want to say it’s AI. I mean, timmer also wasn’t here. Inactivity doesn’t mean they fell asleep at the dinner table with the murder weapon in their hand. But it also does nothing to move the needle.


To your second point on jpic: scumlean. He’s adding enough to the table to bring a sleuthing viewpoints, but there’s something…noncommittal about them? That could just be how town jpic hunts, but i don’t feel confident with calling him town atm. Curious on others thoughts.

Well, timmer just didn't have content...Hal has dropped off a cliff, and then they expect to die here but whatever?




If not Maf, that's just anti town

ok but

see

I’m not sure it’s alignment indicative. I’ve seen hijinx from them over games that it could just be playstyle. I don’t know.

It all seems to easy to lay down like this as wolf, right? Tho I’m wondering what the reaction would have been if Hal were actually leading in votes. Hal has never been too wagon this phase, so maybe they don’t think they’re actually on the block.

[falcon45ca]

That was LCs 2nd or 3rd post btw

[Scotty]

Does mafia!long con label half the team as mafia lol

Here’s another one of those questions into the void without an answerable answer.

Does town!jpic give pep talks to himself in the mirror before a date?

Yes, but who are they pushing? Scummy Hal and a dash of LC






Do you think the timmer wagon was pure?

no. I don’t think all town gets there on timmer

[Long Con]

Guys, it's not unusual to have more scum leans on a list on day one than there are scum.

You're ignoring the issue that you had scum leans on players who hadn't posted or really done anything at all

Well, no, I already responded to that "issue".

First list was just about reactions, and was obviously not that serious as it ascribed alignments to zero-posters.

[Scotty]

Does mafia!long con label half the team as mafia lol

Here’s another one of those questions into the void without an answerable answer.

Does town!jpic give pep talks to himself in the mirror before a date?

Yes, but who are they pushing? Scummy Hal and a dash of LC






Do you think the timmer wagon was pure?

So if I’m parsing between LC/Hal/jpic on that wagon, I’m still leaning away from LC and some sort of difference check between Hal/jpic. Because I’d like to operate under the assumption wolves split up on that vote.

[Long Con]

Good thing y’all don’t post much for when I’m busy

Also, pocketing exists.

Who is this talking about? I can’t figure it out

You and me.

Ah sure sure

Do you feel pocketed by me? I haven’t really thought about the perception- I just think your play has been so off the cuff and zany it reads as too wolfy to be Wilgy - add on that it reminds me of your last game where you were town, and I just don’t want to believe it

I don't know the difference between the feeling believing someone is town and they feel the same.... and believing someone is town and they're using me or whatever.

[falcon45ca]

I find it hard to believe that, with likely 2 Maf, they were both on timmers wagon. That's just bad policy.




Hal is the best chop today IMO. They've done literally no hunting this RD, and I'd argue they did very little last RD. They were around for EOD, but it purely seemed to thread monitor for self pres.




I'd like to hear thoughts on JPIC from @Scotty @Long Con

To your first point, I did just check and hal has checked in since this, and:

unsure i'm not being completely pummeled here, especially because i dropped off the face of the planet this cycle, i did expect to die here but whatever. i've been extremely busy recently and i can't be on for eod. and i will be present d3

apologies for the inactivity

Indubitably.

Hal’s got nothing going and I don’t want to say it’s AI. I mean, timmer also wasn’t here. Inactivity doesn’t mean they fell asleep at the dinner table with the murder weapon in their hand. But it also does nothing to move the needle.


To your second point on jpic: scumlean. He’s adding enough to the table to bring a sleuthing viewpoints, but there’s something…noncommittal about them? That could just be how town jpic hunts, but i don’t feel confident with calling him town atm. Curious on others thoughts.

Well, timmer just didn't have content...Hal has dropped off a cliff, and then they expect to die here but whatever?




If not Maf, that's just anti town

ok but

see

I’m not sure it’s alignment indicative. I’ve seen hijinx from them over games that it could just be playstyle. I don’t know.

It all seems to easy to lay down like this as wolf, right? Tho I’m wondering what the reaction would have been if Hal were actually leading in votes. Hal has never been too wagon this phase, so maybe they don’t think they’re actually on the block.

Not every post is going to be AI. It's anti town. What have they done to show they are town?




Do you want that slot around in a potential F3?




Again, I ask you: Do you think the timmer wagon was pure? I've not seen you answer, apologies if I missed it

[Scotty]

I'd like to hear thoughts on JPIC from Long Con

I just read over his ISO and I feel pretty towny about him. He'd be shaded a notch more green than Roxy and hal if I remade my list.

Is there something specific you're reading in their ISO that gives you the towny vibes?





Ditto Roxy & Hal plz

@Long Con inwas gonna ask this same question and I see you never answered it

I just read through their ISO and I didn't find anything that made me suspicious.

To that point, that is EXACTLY why I’ve been recently tinfoiling him. He hasn’t commanded the thread or pushed anything that hasn’t really been pushed. It’s blendy, and not suspicious, and that’s why I think it IS suspicious.

[Justplayingitcool]

Does mafia!long con label half the team as mafia lol

Here’s another one of those questions into the void without an answerable answer.

Does town!jpic give pep talks to himself in the mirror before a date?

Yes, but who are they pushing? Scummy Hal and a dash of LC






Do you think the timmer wagon was pure?

So if I’m parsing between LC/Hal/jpic on that wagon, I’m still leaning away from LC and some sort of difference check between Hal/jpic. Because I’d like to operate under the assumption wolves split up on that vote.

Why are you leaning away from long con?

ngl this doesn’t make me feel better about you

[Long Con]

9 players, so whaddawe got? 2 mafia? Roxy and Timmerman. GG

You voted timmer who literally did Jack and Shit, basically a 0 poster

Yeah! I wanted it to be right.

[Scotty]

Would mafia!scotty kill seanzie

Still find it a weird kill

What kind of question is this?

Would mafia!anyone kill Seanzie?

Just a random question into a void. Sure I’d kill him it helped my game. I’m not actually sure how it does help my game, but if it did I’d kill anyone

Im just trying to find out the mafia’s thought process to kill seanzie

And where have you gotten to with this? Or at least, where do you lean?

[Long Con]

Does mafia!long con label half the team as mafia lol

Here’s another one of those questions into the void without an answerable answer.

Does town!jpic give pep talks to himself in the mirror before a date?

Yes, but who are they pushing? Scummy Hal and a dash of LC






Do you think the timmer wagon was pure?

So if I’m parsing between LC/Hal/jpic on that wagon, I’m still leaning away from LC and some sort of difference check between Hal/jpic. Because I’d like to operate under the assumption wolves split up on that vote.

Why are you leaning away from long con?

ngl this doesn’t make me feel better about you

I thought this game was practically a done deal, felt good about it. Can't believe it has turned this ugly, it's disappointing.

[falcon45ca]

Does mafia!long con label half the team as mafia lol

Here’s another one of those questions into the void without an answerable answer.

Does town!jpic give pep talks to himself in the mirror before a date?

Yes, but who are they pushing? Scummy Hal and a dash of LC






Do you think the timmer wagon was pure?

So if I’m parsing between LC/Hal/jpic on that wagon, I’m still leaning away from LC and some sort of difference check between Hal/jpic. Because I’d like to operate under the assumption wolves split up on that vote.

I also don't think both wolves were on it, but JPIC has done far more than Hal to show they could be town



That necessarily puts it between hal & LC for me, and if I'm being honest, hal being around for EOD and then ghosting this RD is super scummy

[falcon45ca]

[VOTE: hal] aubergine

[falcon45ca]

Someone with fresh eyes look at Hal at EOD and ask yourself if there's a town motivation to do what they did

[Justplayingitcool]

Would mafia!scotty kill seanzie

Still find it a weird kill

What kind of question is this?

Would mafia!anyone kill Seanzie?

Just a random question into a void. Sure I’d kill him it helped my game. I’m not actually sure how it does help my game, but if it did I’d kill anyone

Im just trying to find out the mafia’s thought process to kill seanzie

And where have you gotten to with this? Or at least, where do you lean?

Nowhere really, as i said im scatty

Im just wondering if mafia killed seanzie because they had plenty of experience with them, and isk why but i wondered if you would be that person

[Scotty]

Good thing y’all don’t post much for when I’m busy

Also, pocketing exists.

Who is this talking about? I can’t figure it out

You and me.

Ah sure sure

Do you feel pocketed by me? I haven’t really thought about the perception- I just think your play has been so off the cuff and zany it reads as too wolfy to be Wilgy - add on that it reminds me of your last game where you were town, and I just don’t want to believe it

I don't know the difference between the feeling believing someone is town and they feel the same.... and believing someone is town and they're using me or whatever.

If I’m reading this right, are you saying you town read me? Or is this some weird perspective I’m missing?

[Justplayingitcool]

I think it’s dangerous to assume there can’t be two wolves on the timmer wagon

[Justplayingitcool]

Does mafia!long con label half the team as mafia lol

Here’s another one of those questions into the void without an answerable answer.

Does town!jpic give pep talks to himself in the mirror before a date?

Yes, but who are they pushing? Scummy Hal and a dash of LC






Do you think the timmer wagon was pure?

So if I’m parsing between LC/Hal/jpic on that wagon, I’m still leaning away from LC and some sort of difference check between Hal/jpic. Because I’d like to operate under the assumption wolves split up on that vote.

Why are you leaning away from long con?

ngl this doesn’t make me feel better about you

I thought this game was practically a done deal, felt good about it. Can't believe it has turned this ugly, it's disappointing.

[Scotty]

I find it hard to believe that, with likely 2 Maf, they were both on timmers wagon. That's just bad policy.




Hal is the best chop today IMO. They've done literally no hunting this RD, and I'd argue they did very little last RD. They were around for EOD, but it purely seemed to thread monitor for self pres.




I'd like to hear thoughts on JPIC from @Scotty @Long Con

To your first point, I did just check and hal has checked in since this, and:

unsure i'm not being completely pummeled here, especially because i dropped off the face of the planet this cycle, i did expect to die here but whatever. i've been extremely busy recently and i can't be on for eod. and i will be present d3

apologies for the inactivity

Indubitably.

Hal’s got nothing going and I don’t want to say it’s AI. I mean, timmer also wasn’t here. Inactivity doesn’t mean they fell asleep at the dinner table with the murder weapon in their hand. But it also does nothing to move the needle.


To your second point on jpic: scumlean. He’s adding enough to the table to bring a sleuthing viewpoints, but there’s something…noncommittal about them? That could just be how town jpic hunts, but i don’t feel confident with calling him town atm. Curious on others thoughts.

Well, timmer just didn't have content...Hal has dropped off a cliff, and then they expect to die here but whatever?




If not Maf, that's just anti town

ok but

see

I’m not sure it’s alignment indicative. I’ve seen hijinx from them over games that it could just be playstyle. I don’t know.

It all seems to easy to lay down like this as wolf, right? Tho I’m wondering what the reaction would have been if Hal were actually leading in votes. Hal has never been too wagon this phase, so maybe they don’t think they’re actually on the block.

Not every post is going to be AI. It's anti town. What have they done to show they are town?




Do you want that slot around in a potential F3?




Again, I ask you: Do you think the timmer wagon was pure? I've not seen you answer, apologies if I missed it

No, I guess not.

[VOTE: Hal] aubergine

[Justplayingitcool]

Damn i was hoping you would commit with your tinfoil on me

[Justplayingitcool]

Hal i need you to be townier

[Scotty]

Does mafia!long con label half the team as mafia lol

Here’s another one of those questions into the void without an answerable answer.

Does town!jpic give pep talks to himself in the mirror before a date?

Yes, but who are they pushing? Scummy Hal and a dash of LC






Do you think the timmer wagon was pure?

So if I’m parsing between LC/Hal/jpic on that wagon, I’m still leaning away from LC and some sort of difference check between Hal/jpic. Because I’d like to operate under the assumption wolves split up on that vote.

Why are you leaning away from long con?

ngl this doesn’t make me feel better about you

LC has basically been a townread on vibes this whole game for me. His D2 has been a bit more pointed on the defensive, which is certainly something.

Does a town!jpic know the difference between a classical and acoustic guitar?

[Scotty]

Damn i was hoping you would commit with your tinfoil on me

I haven’t not committed. But at this point it’s just that- tinfoil

Falcon is right- with what Hal is giving, I don’t feel great with them in a f3, and they’re not actively helping the solve.

My vote isn’t locked btw. I really do want Hal to give us more

[Justplayingitcool]

Does mafia!long con label half the team as mafia lol

Here’s another one of those questions into the void without an answerable answer.

Does town!jpic give pep talks to himself in the mirror before a date?

Yes, but who are they pushing? Scummy Hal and a dash of LC






Do you think the timmer wagon was pure?

So if I’m parsing between LC/Hal/jpic on that wagon, I’m still leaning away from LC and some sort of difference check between Hal/jpic. Because I’d like to operate under the assumption wolves split up on that vote.

Why are you leaning away from long con?

ngl this doesn’t make me feel better about you

LC has basically been a townread on vibes this whole game for me. His D2 has been a bit more pointed on the defensive, which is certainly something.

Does a town!jpic know the difference between a classical and acoustic guitar?

I think im never gonna shake the feelings that you and long con are power wolfing us

[Scotty]

Does mafia!long con label half the team as mafia lol

Here’s another one of those questions into the void without an answerable answer.

Does town!jpic give pep talks to himself in the mirror before a date?

Yes, but who are they pushing? Scummy Hal and a dash of LC






Do you think the timmer wagon was pure?

So if I’m parsing between LC/Hal/jpic on that wagon, I’m still leaning away from LC and some sort of difference check between Hal/jpic. Because I’d like to operate under the assumption wolves split up on that vote.

Why are you leaning away from long con?

ngl this doesn’t make me feel better about you

I thought this game was practically a done deal, felt good about it. Can't believe it has turned this ugly, it's disappointing.

Wait what? All I remember from your play today is that SVS is bad. Which is entirely possible, but the confidence here is confounding that you’ve solved it

[Scotty]

Does mafia!long con label half the team as mafia lol

Here’s another one of those questions into the void without an answerable answer.

Does town!jpic give pep talks to himself in the mirror before a date?

Yes, but who are they pushing? Scummy Hal and a dash of LC






Do you think the timmer wagon was pure?

So if I’m parsing between LC/Hal/jpic on that wagon, I’m still leaning away from LC and some sort of difference check between Hal/jpic. Because I’d like to operate under the assumption wolves split up on that vote.

Why are you leaning away from long con?

ngl this doesn’t make me feel better about you

LC has basically been a townread on vibes this whole game for me. His D2 has been a bit more pointed on the defensive, which is certainly something.

Does a town!jpic know the difference between a classical and acoustic guitar?

I think im never gonna shake the feelings that you and long con are power wolfing us

Would wolf!Scotty townread his wolf partner so blatantly on D1?