Severance [Evening Four]

[tedxtr]

Meh I think it's a coin flip if dizzy is wolf and we should kill someone better

Like Ted

cuz im certainly not a coinflip

In my opinion your not

And you've actually been present

Not really looking to flip two straight AFKs just cause they are AFKs and have them both flip town which at this point is pretty 50/50

i enjoyed the part where you gave a reason

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

I won't trust your read on Dubz, as you townread NANOOK for doing nothing in Beans Mafia and look where that led you. But I might be more willing to listen to your read on RDB, so can you explain why they're town?

Oh no I got 1 out of 100s of these reads I do wrong

I also read Wilgy right

Yeah, a 50% success rate of a sample size of two ain't good enough. Especially when it should've been obvious that Epi was town, but water under the bridge I guess

Nobody has ever got a read wrong omg

At that point, it's not even a "read" but a refusal to read. How 'bout you actually tell me about RDB.

No it's a read.

DubZ was pure as snow.

It's just complaining about activity. AKA the easiest thing ever for wolves to post. I'm not even gonna push that because as I said RDB is far more relevant but come on. This same logic from you has thrown a game and I will not let it happen again as long as I'm alive.

My logic didn't throw a game

We fucking lost

Who cares get the fuck over it you didn't win the game your not perfect so get off my fucking back and play mafia instead of throwing a whiny fit about a past game where I

Found a wolf

Correctly read multiple players

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Meh I think it's a coin flip if dizzy is wolf and we should kill someone better

Like Ted

cuz im certainly not a coinflip

In my opinion your not

And you've actually been present

Not really looking to flip two straight AFKs just cause they are AFKs and have them both flip town which at this point is pretty 50/50

i enjoyed the part where you gave a reason

Read the fucking game than cause I did

Twice.

[leetic]

Oh no I got 1 out of 100s of these reads I do wrong

I also read Wilgy right

Yeah, a 50% success rate of a sample size of two ain't good enough. Especially when it should've been obvious that Epi was town, but water under the bridge I guess

Nobody has ever got a read wrong omg

At that point, it's not even a "read" but a refusal to read. How 'bout you actually tell me about RDB.

No it's a read.

DubZ was pure as snow.

It's just complaining about activity. AKA the easiest thing ever for wolves to post. I'm not even gonna push that because as I said RDB is far more relevant but come on. This same logic from you has thrown a game and I will not let it happen again as long as I'm alive.

My logic didn't throw a game

We fucking lost

Who cares get the fuck over it you didn't win the game your not perfect so get off my fucking back and play mafia instead of throwing a whiny fit about a past game where I

Found a wolf

Correctly read multiple players

You refused to push an obvious wolf and voted for the most obvious town I've ever seen in LyLo (if Epi was a wolf, the game would've ended the previous phase). Hell, three consecutive townies solved the game yet you threw. Yeah, that loss wasn't my fault. Not going to allow you to coast a "townread" on a player who did nothing because that's exactly how we got in that situation.

[tedxtr]

you wasted me scrolling through a350 posts iso in which only 5% of posts say anything relevant that we can follow through, and the only thing i can piece out is that im a wolf for wagon movements

is there more that im missing?

[Ranmilia]

Please cut out the fighting and negativity. This is not good for the game, fun value, or town.

[tedxtr]

i would, if people were actually helpful and engaged in good faith

i get wagonned all the time and people rarely elaborate on why, and when i ask them to give a clear cut reason, they never do or they say something of this sort

then i check their iso and it’s still non existent

[leetic]

Anyway, TSP and Windward have two of the secret votes. If there's a third, it must be Dyslexicon, unless someone didn't claim for some reason.

[tedxtr]

i match energy, simple as that

[tedxtr]

instead of a “go fucking read the game”, you could just repeat it concisely, in one post, since you never did before

it’s not a waste of time or “valuable posts”

[leetic]

If I were voting based on "annoying", Abby would definitely be that vote, with Bereft as a close second. However, we have to look at wolfy people.

[Ranmilia]

i would, if people were actually helpful and engaged in good faith

i get wagonned all the time and people rarely elaborate on why, and when i ask them to give a clear cut reason, they never do or they say something of this sort

then i check their iso and it’s still non existent

ye i meant the leetic/abigail stuff, apologies.

I too would like to know, I see Bereft scumreading but I don't see or can't understand the reasons, and I don't really buy d1 wagons as reason on its own given the circumstances. I HAVE +scum points on ted I think are better than that already and they're counterbalanced by thinking the wagons if anything look good for him.

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Yeah, a 50% success rate of a sample size of two ain't good enough. Especially when it should've been obvious that Epi was town, but water under the bridge I guess

Nobody has ever got a read wrong omg

At that point, it's not even a "read" but a refusal to read. How 'bout you actually tell me about RDB.

No it's a read.

DubZ was pure as snow.

It's just complaining about activity. AKA the easiest thing ever for wolves to post. I'm not even gonna push that because as I said RDB is far more relevant but come on. This same logic from you has thrown a game and I will not let it happen again as long as I'm alive.

My logic didn't throw a game

We fucking lost

Who cares get the fuck over it you didn't win the game your not perfect so get off my fucking back and play mafia instead of throwing a whiny fit about a past game where I

Found a wolf

Correctly read multiple players

You refused to push an obvious wolf and voted for the most obvious town I've ever seen in LyLo (if Epi was a wolf, the game would've ended the previous phase). Hell, three consecutive townies solved the game yet you threw. Yeah, that loss wasn't my fault. Not going to allow you to coast a "townread" on a player who did nothing because that's exactly how we got in that situation.

Cry more

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

you wasted me scrolling through a350 posts iso in which only 5% of posts say anything relevant that we can follow through, and the only thing i can piece out is that im a wolf for wagon movements

is there more that im missing?

Cry more

Play fucking mafia

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

i would, if people were actually helpful and engaged in good faith

i get wagonned all the time and people rarely elaborate on why, and when i ask them to give a clear cut reason, they never do or they say something of this sort

then i check their iso and it’s still non existent

I said why

Twice in the last 2 pages of my iso

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

So sick of being treated like this

[tedxtr]

im a pr

you can ask me any questions you like, they’ll be ignored

great team great effort

[tedxtr]

So sick of being treated like this

you’re the one that’s sick of being treated like this xD

[leetic]

you wasted me scrolling through a350 posts iso in which only 5% of posts say anything relevant that we can follow through, and the only thing i can piece out is that im a wolf for wagon movements

is there more that im missing?

Cry more

Play fucking mafia

You do know that communication is a part of playing mafia? And telling people to "just read lol" isn't doing that?

[leetic]

im a pr

you can ask me any questions you like, they’ll be ignored

great team great effort

Why claim now?

[tedxtr]

im a pr

you can ask me any questions you like, they’ll be ignored

great team great effort

Why claim now?

cuz i felt like it

[leetic]

i would, if people were actually helpful and engaged in good faith

i get wagonned all the time and people rarely elaborate on why, and when i ask them to give a clear cut reason, they never do or they say something of this sort

then i check their iso and it’s still non existent

I said why

Twice in the last 2 pages of my iso

Look, I'm a fairly ornery player, but I can at the very least reiterate my feelings in a simple sentence, or just quote the post where I said it

[Ranmilia]

...

yeah

that's. what i thought. i told y'all we don't go ted today.

[tedxtr]

i would, if people were actually helpful and engaged in good faith

i get wagonned all the time and people rarely elaborate on why, and when i ask them to give a clear cut reason, they never do or they say something of this sort

then i check their iso and it’s still non existent

I said why

Twice in the last 2 pages of my iso

Look, I'm a fairly ornery player, but I can at the very least reiterate my feelings in a simple sentence, or just quote the post where I said it

nah, i have to sift through 350 posts to find out why, instead of them just saying it once clearly so we get over it

it is poor teammate behavior on my part

[leetic]

im a pr

you can ask me any questions you like, they’ll be ignored

great team great effort

Why claim now?

cuz i felt like it

But why would you want wolves knowing it at this point when PRs are presumably the exception, given that we had two vanilla flips (three counting Porscha)?

[leetic]

Anyway, not sure what to make of tedxtr's sudden claim but that is likely an issue for later, don't want to vote them today.

[tedxtr]

im a pr

you can ask me any questions you like, they’ll be ignored

great team great effort

Why claim now?

cuz i felt like it

But why would you want wolves knowing it at this point when PRs are presumably the exception, given that we had two vanilla flips (three counting Porscha)?

it’s either cuz im an impulsive dummie, or there’s a reason

and it’s on wolves to twist their heads and plan their actions according to this

[Ranmilia]

ted do you have any relevant info to give? I assume not given what you said but.

[tedxtr]

nope

[leetic]

If they are town though, that makes at least one wolf being off robyn almost certain as it eliminates the possibility of any Dyslexicon/tedxtr teams, which would be the main scenario in which I could see all three wolves being on robyn

[tedxtr]

Princess abigail in shock, completely frozen

[tedxtr]

@Bereft you can actually play the game now

@RondoDimBuckle im not a wolf, please give other reads

@abi you can actually play the game now

[leetic]

[VOTE: RondoDimBuckle] aubergine since both tedxtr and TSP are both in the "leave for another day" box and I don't see a need to join the Dyslexicon wagon right now since it's so far ahead. A few people have expressed confusion as to why a RDB push isn't happening; will they actually put their money where their mouth is now?

[leetic]

Anyway, an exciting thing finally happened when it's nearly 5 AM EST but yeah, I should probably go to bed now

[tedxtr]

Anyway, an exciting thing finally happened when it's nearly 5 AM EST but yeah, I should probably go to bed now

now you won’t be able to sleep lol

[leetic]

Anyway, before I go to bed:

Would not lynch today: Gira, Ranmilia, Windward, tedxtr
Would probably not lynch today: TonyStarkPrime, pyxxy, Abby
Is this really the solve because it feels way too easy: Dyslexicon, Bereft, RDB

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

So sick of being treated like this

you’re the one that’s sick of being treated like this xD

Yeah I'm sick of being accused of throwing cause I got one read wrong.

I'm sick of having entire losses blamed on me cause I didn't find every fucking wolf or every fucking town

I'm sick of being constantly reminded of mistakes from past games

I'm sick of getting no credit when I do something right but getting all the blame when a team I'm on loses

I'm sick of being told I don't do anything

Yeah. I'm sick of it.

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

you wasted me scrolling through a350 posts iso in which only 5% of posts say anything relevant that we can follow through, and the only thing i can piece out is that im a wolf for wagon movements

is there more that im missing?

Cry more

Play fucking mafia

You do know that communication is a part of playing mafia? And telling people to "just read lol" isn't doing that?

I have already repeated it

Being asked to repeat things 68 times a game is in fact annoying

[Ranmilia]

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Okay after catch up report card

Lawful Good: Ranmilia, DubzDimBuckle, WWA

Chaotic Good: Princess Abigail, Gira, Bereft, Leetic

True Neutral: Dizzy, TSP

Lawful Evil: Pyxxy

Chaotic Evil: Ted


Ordered within tiers

Leetic is dropping for me. Schweppes is rising.

Lawful Goods are locked in and I'm willing to bet the game on it.

Ran, WWA, Rondo want to mason?

Here for your viewing pleasure

Talk to me about Rondo, Ted, Pyxxy? Well you have already talked about Rondo/Dubz but. Why are those your bottom two?

Wagon movement when Ted was brought close to Robyn looks atrocious

I have no conceivably valid reason to town read pyxxy. They've been providing much info but no analysis and largely doing nothing that isn't as wolfy as it could be towny

The way I read the game is to look at posts from a player and internally analyze "how does this benefit town? How does this benefit wolf? Would town do it and why? Would wolf do it and why? Which is more likely?"

After doing that analysis internally I draw a conclusion.

I am much better at finding town than scum statistically so I look for town and than poe the people I find least likely to be town

that doesn’t make it better

that doesn’t make it better

Why the vote was 4 to 5 and than 76 people appeared to make it like 3 to 8 in favor of robyn immediately when it got to close for comfort.

Ted is wolf.

Why the vote was 4 to 5 and than 76 people appeared to make it like 3 to 8 in favor of robyn immediately when it got to close for comfort.

Ted is wolf.

hey bud

please review the tapes

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Bereft
0
No votes
Voters: None
Dubz
2
14%
Voters: tedxtr, leetic
Dyslexicon
0
No votes
Voters: None
Gira
0
No votes
Voters: None
leetic
1
7%
Voters: pyxxy
MacDougall
0
No votes
Voters: None
☆Princess Abigail☆
1
7%
Voters: TonyStarkPrime
pyxxy
0
No votes
Voters: None
Ranmilia
0
No votes
Voters: None
robyn
5
36%
Voters: Ranmilia, WindwardAway, Dyslexicon, Gira, MacDougall
tedxtr
2
14%
Voters: RondoDimBuckle, Bereft
TonyStarkPrime
0
No votes
Voters: None
WindwardAway
0
No votes
Voters: None
No elimination
0
No votes
Voters: None
No vote / Unvote
1
7%
Voters: robyn

after this

*is the shadow vote +1 modify in effect

I moved from leetic (1 -> 0) to ted (2 -> 3)
WWA moved from robyn (6* -> 5*) to ted (3 -> 4)
leetic moved from RondDubz (3*->2*) to robyn (5* -> 6*)
ted moved from RonDubz (2* -> 1*) to robyn (6* -> 7*)
Abigail voted for ted (4 -> 5)
WWA switched back from ted (5 -> 4) to robyn (7* -> 8*)
tsp moved from Abigail (1 -> 0) to robyn (8* -> 9*)

because I can see certain people already trying to pre-flip robyn and hey, I just want to help y'all do the work, because I'm a nice person

I made this post on D1 specifically for anyone wanting to do exactly what you're doing

I don't see how this changes my right process at all

okay

Thank you for this amazing insight

If my point is that when Ted got close there was a massive wagon formation change even if I'm wrong about the numbers you've corroborated the concept no?

This was all on page 1 of my iso

It was not hard to find

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Huh one of the quotes got lost

that doesn’t make it better

Why the vote was 4 to 5 and than 76 people appeared to make it like 3 to 8 in favor of robyn immediately when it got to close for comfort.

Ted is wolf.

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

i would, if people were actually helpful and engaged in good faith

i get wagonned all the time and people rarely elaborate on why, and when i ask them to give a clear cut reason, they never do or they say something of this sort

then i check their iso and it’s still non existent

I said why

Twice in the last 2 pages of my iso

Look, I'm a fairly ornery player, but I can at the very least reiterate my feelings in a simple sentence, or just quote the post where I said it

nah, i have to sift through 350 posts to find out why, instead of them just saying it once clearly so we get over it

it is poor teammate behavior on my part

It was literally on page 1

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Anyway, not sure what to make of tedxtr's sudden claim but that is likely an issue for later, don't want to vote them today.

Well mainly that it's fake

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Princess abigail in shock, completely frozen

I'm at work so kindly leave me the fuck alone

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Honestly robyn had the right idea maybe I just ask this game

[tedxtr]

so who are the wolves now?

[WindwardAway]

I see I've missed nothing important

[WindwardAway]

Jk I missed a page, gonna read it

[tedxtr]

so pyxxy wolf read me cuz of my slank cover

abi wolf read me cuz of the wagon on me

at this point, if bereft wolf reads me on my actual posts he might be outed

[WindwardAway]

Anyway, TSP and Windward have two of the secret votes. If there's a third, it must be Dyslexicon, unless someone didn't claim for some reason.

I don't think it matters who has the vote at this point. We don't necessarily know whether the players from the other thread who are tied to us are the same alignment as their links, so it means nothing for solving the game until we know more.