Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Nov 24, 2023 12:42 am
fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuhhhhh
Are you guys seriously playing as if neighbors have the same alignment??? Wtf. Thats very wrong. I'm town tho.
Praytell why is that wrong?
Ilario and tsp, the only known wolves, were linked.
Long con and WWA were both town.
You were NKd, and we see no mech that gives the idea that town have vig powers, so it’s a good assumption you’re town regardless with our mech cleared DarlingMonroe
When I die, I want to go peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather;
not screaming like the people in his car
Bereft wrote: ↑Fri Nov 24, 2023 1:33 am
Yeah NK, right.
But otherwise, neighborhood makes clear don't assume alignments are linked.
Sample size small.
Think porscha's neighbor wolf.
What’s this now?
Pretend I have no idea what is going on over there because no one seems to really talk about it.
Like effin a im losing my mind- if I had someone in my neighborhood I’d be talking all the live long day sharing gossip stories like fuckin Gretchen wieners
So Porscha is linked with…who? And they’re wolf?
When I die, I want to go peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather;
not screaming like the people in his car
Why rush for the Wilgy vote? What do you think about Scotty + Alexy?
I think he's SCUMMY.
Actually no but yeah I think he's possible mafia and I could see him bussing at that time because he's got a tendency to do so when he's backed into a corner as mafia.
Odd post
Even post
it was the whole actually no but yeah for me
Bah I should actually be here for a lil bit, got ISOs open
Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Nov 23, 2023 12:29 pm
Alexy
Alexy has had many moments this game not being in the know on a lot of posts.
The good:
Alexy wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 1:44 pm
I don't know how much I'm going to be around today so since I'm on folks' poe I don't want you to waste time on that. I'm a town watcher. I had 2 opportunities to watch someone during separate night phases. Night 1 I watched psv, and Scotty had visited her. Night 2 I watched Long Con and nobody visited him. The latter is the same night I got the extra vote placed on me for today.
Unprompted watcher claim
-admitted to having an extra vote placed on him as tutuu did N1. If we believe that to be a mafia ability….that’s a good look
Alexy wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 1:44 pm
I don't know how much I'm going to be around today so since I'm on folks' poe I don't want you to waste time on that. I'm a town watcher. I had 2 opportunities to watch someone during separate night phases. Night 1 I watched psv, and Scotty had visited her. Night 2 I watched Long Con and nobody visited him. The latter is the same night I got the extra vote placed on me for today.
This part seems like Alexy was prompted to me.
Though I do see the extra vote thing as a decent look maybe
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Nov 23, 2023 10:59 pm
It's okay Tutuu just give me G2H who you think you vote the most today I'll try to help you with that.
Scotty or alexy should be optimal for today, i laid out a ton of arguments at sod, i couldnt catch a chance to even read scottys responses tho, i saw he replied to 5 things
I think I go Scotty more than likely at that rate the redirector claim and then absolutely 0 good results coming out of it feels bad.
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Nov 23, 2023 2:56 pm
Glad I did that real quick, I feel more acquainted with the game once again.
In terms of the VCA based PoE of Scotty > Cape > Brad, I don't know how accurate that is. I have a fleeting memory of it being Scotty who proposed Ilario suspicion earlier on D2?
Things for me to check when it's not turkey time: Scotty's position on PSV in spite of Ilario suspicion and the incorrect vote.
Cape's poor vote record.
PSV's position of 'just town based on VCA'
Ignore the binary ‘who voted whom’ for a sec.
I made a full case against ilario; begged others to go there, no one bit, said 20 min before eod that my ideal lynch would be ilario, left to make dinner, ilario was suddenly a wagon.
So…I should be towncore. But I’m not, because everyone e else couldn’t make their minds up
I dig it. Like I said, I just need to validate this was really the case.
As it stands Confident PoE is cape and brad. Not confident PoE is you and Tutuu.
You seemed more confident in these posts
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Nov 23, 2023 2:54 pm
1 in Brad, Tutuu, Cape
PSV has town equity based on Ilario D1
Scotty looks pretty bad d1 being on PSV
Ilario wagon looks pure based on PSV's equity
Cape and Scotty continue looking bad being on LC
Brad minor equity being on PSV with a 3p and Ilario, PSV continues to be town
Scotty wagon was at least 'pure'
JUST VCA in isolation, Scotty > Cape > Brad
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Nov 23, 2023 2:56 pm
Glad I did that real quick, I feel more acquainted with the game once again.
In terms of the VCA based PoE of Scotty > Cape > Brad, I don't know how accurate that is. I have a fleeting memory of it being Scotty who proposed Ilario suspicion earlier on D2?
Things for me to check when it's not turkey time: Scotty's position on PSV in spite of Ilario suspicion and the incorrect vote.
Cape's poor vote record.
PSV's position of 'just town based on VCA'
that Scotty was more scummy then me, did that change in between these posts and the top quote there?
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Nov 23, 2023 10:59 pm
It's okay Tutuu just give me G2H who you think you vote the most today I'll try to help you with that.
Scotty or alexy should be optimal for today, i laid out a ton of arguments at sod, i couldnt catch a chance to even read scottys responses tho, i saw he replied to 5 things
Please stop humoring Lime Coke. The guy is openly trolling at this point. He isn’t solving- he is absolutely not working in town’s interest
Why is he trolling lmao what happened? Reading now
You being mafia and Alexy being town should be a self-explanatory mechanical possibility. We keep discussing the possibility of Long Con being roleblocked. Which is that. Long Con doesn't know if he's roleblocked. You don't know if your action goes through. Alexy could be town regardless of your alignment. From her pov - you visited. From your pov - you think you visited, but you can't know for sure. From LC's pov - he thinks he blocked you, but he can't know for sure.
It is very implausible that I failed. Very implausible. Alexy saw me visit, so LC’s action didn’t work in some way.
That’s the mechanical truth.
Now obviously that’s *my* truth, since you don’t know if alexy and I are in on it.
My running theory was TSP redirected LC from the other thread for some reason. But that is also VERY random, as LC hadn’t claimed anything at that point, and why wouldn’t TSP do something in his own thread.
So now, looking at the mech you’ve laid out, you say town is advantaged. Ok, with what we know, if that is the case, mafia’s gotta have some more powerful roles we haven’t seen. I’ll betcha the other thread has a town role blocker, and we still have a mafia role blocker over here. Since TSP had my role, and I’m town.
Tsp couldnt have impacted us from the other thread id say coz delta's flip told us that he was the only one who can read both threads
Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 11:35 pm
Alexy can still be wolf- a mafia watcher, I guess. Seems like a watered down role for mafia, but I’m sure there is a mafia equivalent. Honestly? Could be a mafia equivalent of all power roles. Like if Long Con’s mafia equivalent targeted him on N1.
Presumably 6v2 right now in this thread. Misyeet gets down to 4v2, which is mylo.
If one of me or alexy take to the torch, how confident are we in successfully navigating mylo once you learn we weren’t lying
Id just try my best, hopefully we chop a wolf today
DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Thu Nov 23, 2023 1:06 am
Lime and Scotty/Alexy is where im at if there’s 2 other wolves. If there’s only one, im thinking Lime.
I doubt only one wolf left unless a broken hidden PR. Mafia has had no evident mechanical impact this game beside potential rb on lc n1. And deltas flip told us (i think) they cant interact in other thread
tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 10:32 pm
@DrWilgy Please don't come guns blazing at me, we might need to consider a world where we're both town
Sure, what did you think on those who were full steam ahead with your suspicion on me? I noticed at least LC, LC, Scotty and Cape were like "ahhh yes yes this makes sense" and not much beyond.
Did anyone besides you actually assess my vote placement when it happened?
Everyone agreed that your action was identical to what you did as wolf before
I don't think thats what makes you scummy ftr. As town u are expected to vote wolves too. It just made me not townread u for the ilario vote, and the scumread came from your other reads
Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 10:53 pm
My running theory was TSP redirected LC from the other thread for some reason. But that is also VERY random, as LC hadn’t claimed anything at that point, and why wouldn’t TSP do something in his own thread.
what if actions one side also happen other side to target's headmate
ex TSP drove WWA and...a scummate?
ah yes of course, I ruin my big reveal with a broken quote. EBWOP
Ohhh I see I had the same thing happen. Rip
Also wow; that’s not a bad theory and i love it
if true. TSP role says targeter gets true target. then LC's true target's headmate is scum in the other thread?
True target? Can you share the full flip?
Fwiw flavorwise we are all fake people. The ppl in the other thread are the true people id say
You being mafia and Alexy being town should be a self-explanatory mechanical possibility. We keep discussing the possibility of Long Con being roleblocked. Which is that. Long Con doesn't know if he's roleblocked. You don't know if your action goes through. Alexy could be town regardless of your alignment. From her pov - you visited. From your pov - you think you visited, but you can't know for sure. From LC's pov - he thinks he blocked you, but he can't know for sure.
It is very implausible that I failed. Very implausible. Alexy saw me visit, so LC’s action didn’t work in some way.
That’s the mechanical truth.
Now obviously that’s *my* truth, since you don’t know if alexy and I are in on it.
My running theory was TSP redirected LC from the other thread for some reason. But that is also VERY random, as LC hadn’t claimed anything at that point, and why wouldn’t TSP do something in his own thread.
So now, looking at the mech you’ve laid out, you say town is advantaged. Ok, with what we know, if that is the case, mafia’s gotta have some more powerful roles we haven’t seen. I’ll betcha the other thread has a town role blocker, and we still have a mafia role blocker over here. Since TSP had my role, and I’m town.
Tsp couldnt have impacted us from the other thread id say coz delta's flip told us that he was the only one who can read both threads
Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 10:53 pm
My running theory was TSP redirected LC from the other thread for some reason. But that is also VERY random, as LC hadn’t claimed anything at that point, and why wouldn’t TSP do something in his own thread.
what if actions one side also happen other side to target's headmate
ex TSP drove WWA and...a scummate?
ah yes of course, I ruin my big reveal with a broken quote. EBWOP
Because that makes a lot of sense to me. Double the power roles because double the power
When I die, I want to go peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather;
not screaming like the people in his car
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 2:52 pm
lol, Delta's fine, but if they flip anything other than scum can we yeet Tutuu off a cliff?
they fr didn't ack any of the things I had to say about them, was like 'I'll case wilgy' and then 'oh wow, I cased wilgy and they came back scum!'
All seems very reactionary/premeditated and slightly omgusy as they seemed to ignore what I had to say about them being suspect last cycle. Not to mention it's just silly.
You have said this about tutuu but coming into today, you really do not seem so sure there
Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 10:53 pm
My running theory was TSP redirected LC from the other thread for some reason. But that is also VERY random, as LC hadn’t claimed anything at that point, and why wouldn’t TSP do something in his own thread.
what if actions one side also happen other side to target's headmate
ex TSP drove WWA and...a scummate?
ah yes of course, I ruin my big reveal with a broken quote. EBWOP
Ohhh I see I had the same thing happen. Rip
Also wow; that’s not a bad theory and i love it
if true. TSP role says targeter gets true target. then LC's true target's headmate is scum in the other thread?
Wait, what does true target mean? I was under the impression that I have the same role redirector over here, but I don’t have anything mentioning ‘true target’
I lost other thread access on death but like
"pick two. actions swap. _action person gets name of true target_"
Why rush for the Wilgy vote? What do you think about Scotty + Alexy?
I think he's SCUMMY.
Actually no but yeah I think he's possible mafia and I could see him bussing at that time because he's got a tendency to do so when he's backed into a corner as mafia.
Why did you start talking in an exaggerated tone today?
Anyway - i dont think the roleblock thing is outing for Scotty
Regardless of his alignment i think he'd claim only if its true on his end imo
Same for Alexy
But i am very suspicious of the fact that there is a ton of town pr claims (none of which ended up making a verifiable pro-town impact) and no signs of mafia power roles
tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Nov 24, 2023 12:08 pm
Scottys role doesnt sound fitting to me
He claimed a redirector that cant redirect the factional kill
Ok, then what can he redirect? Mafia has nothing apart from potentially a roleblocker? One of them was goon, potentially two are
Well i suppose in that case if hes town his role is purposefully weak? I dunno
Because so far, I don’t know priority orders, but from what’s been revealed, i feel like LC’s protect/block procs before me, but I probably proc after alexy’s watch.
There’s no way the other mafia in this thread are goons like ilario was. I have to have some pull with them otherwise my role is extremely useless
When I die, I want to go peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather;
not screaming like the people in his car
Well if pyxxy is telling the truth (bereft would tell us if pyxxy wa mafia right?)
Mafia on that side can obtain name of partner. That was the role, right?
Deltas flip told us mafia cant read the other thread themselves. But if they can obtain the name - they can probably do something with it right? Coz town sure cant
So sure, mafia impacting other thread could be a real possibility
Perhaps theres also a chance that like. We have a townsided setup and they have a scumsided setup? Coz ... I dunno why. Coz we are the fake people in the experiment? Lol i dunno