Severance [Evening Four]

[leetic]

wait... so who is coming to our thread today?

Whoever gets lynched in the thread, assuming their partner hasn't already died here

[Made]

wait... so who is coming to our thread today?

Whoever gets lynched in the thread, assuming their partner hasn't already died here

Understood...who was that...?

[leetic]

wait... so who is coming to our thread today?

Whoever gets lynched in the thread, assuming their partner hasn't already died here

Understood...who was that...?

I understand you're a sub but you've had like two phases to catch up. Come on

[Made]

wait... so who is coming to our thread today?

Whoever gets lynched in the thread, assuming their partner hasn't already died here

Understood...who was that...?

I understand you're a sub but you've had like two phases to catch up. Come on

Asking questions is a very important part of the educational process. shame on you for shaming those who yearn for knowledge

[leetic]

wait... so who is coming to our thread today?

Whoever gets lynched in the thread, assuming their partner hasn't already died here

Understood...who was that...?

I understand you're a sub but you've had like two phases to catch up. Come on

Asking questions is a very important part of the educational process. shame on you for shaming those who yearn for knowledge

If you really "yearn for knowledge", you could have paid attention to the multiple people who explained it to you. I feel like your "just asking questions" is reading like a bad-faith tactic to stall out the thread. I ask a lot of questions, but those are at least directed at getting information out of the players/game.

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

wanted to see if you'd get mad or something

Nah I don't really care

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

does porscha still think im the likeliest wolf?

AFAIK yes

[tedxtr]

does porscha still think im the likeliest wolf?

AFAIK yes

woah

[Made]

Hey All, not pleased at all with the Mac and Robyn death. Only reasons I signed up at all was them.

I have a very busy weekend with a dnd game, karaoke party, drive to a castle out in the styx and then a birthday party today and tomorrow so I am going to be mostly absent / phone posting at best.

I would never make the Mac kill. I love to snow Mac as wolf. You can take it with a grain of salt of course but at least its the weekend so I can be phone posting here and then with no impact from work (Assuming no one breaks any servers again)

I was legit hoping Mac would come in today and exonerate me saying it was just one of his big brain plays that he usually does. I was prepared to have to go toe to toe and be late for dnd but now I am just going to say my peace and dip(ish)

Ill see if I can swing some late night posting Sunday to actually drill into EOD tomorrow

Doing some back reading (thank you leetic for inspiring me in my mafia journey to be the best play I could be 🥹)

Having also lowkey signed up to play with mac, I wouldn't kill him day one, even if he would of gotten me chopped D2, it's just no fun! I'm down to read Rondo as town for this

[Made]

I think ran is morelikely town than Abigail, so I'll vote with Ran for now
[VOTE: Gira] aubergine

[Made]

stealing a page from the leetic playbook

robyn
5
36%
Voters: Ranmilia, WindwardAway, Dyslexicon, Gira, MacDougall

_must_ be impure

and if I had to pick one it would be dizzy (I have no concerns about gira atm but clearly I'm not seeing something that other people are)

so [VOTE: dizzy] aubergine for the time being

might be gone for a while fun day planned tomorrow, watching

if it's impure it's just Gira right?

[Made]

Understood. <3

Yeah Dizzy is the only person in that list I think can be a wolf, and while the chances of that ARE high they're not 100% or near enough that I can see any weight in that. Wagon purity reads are, in my experience, I typed "useless and antitown" but on reflection there are times where I have gone "this wagon absolutely never goes over without multiple wolves on it". Highly overused though. Let's go with that. And in a case like this where the major events of the push are "Mac started it and pushed hard" and then "robyn bailed from the thread" and they're both flipped town, I don't see any particular indications of when wolves would go on it.

if dizzy's not playing he's not playing

i had hoped my vote on him would lead to some pressure because he needed it but if he's afk it does exactly nothing and leads to thread discussion centering around him which is bad. i will instead vote tsp, who is being a scummy scumfuck

[VOTE: tsp] aubergine

Maybe....?

[Gira]

i posted like a billion quotes about how tsp reacted to me that shows we are never ever a team

[Gira]

atp i can't tell what is wolfiness and what is incompetence

[leetic]

Looking back at RDB's EoD2, two things that stand out are their being pissed off that I wasn't willing to vote pyxxy and them considering DizzyMade a "dead wagon"

[leetic]

Well, approaching 9 EST again, let's see if we get anything this time

[leetic]

Well, it wasn't announced that anyone was leaving so we seem to be getting someone. Sin embargo, no tengo a nadie. No secret votes either.

[Gira]

No secret votes either.

you can't be sure of that if no one has posted?

[leetic]

No secret votes either.

you can't be sure of that if no one has posted?

I was talking on my end

[Gira]

oh fair nuff

i have not received any extra votes

[Gira]

honestly i'm not that confident rondo is mafia but if he isn't the game is kind of porked

[Lime Coke]

I'm with Made.

Will push thoughts there.

[leetic]

I'm with Made.

Will push thoughts there.

Are you town or wolf?
Is Delta town or wolf?
Did Long Con flip town or did he not flip at all?
Did Windward claim their second roleblock target?
Did Bereft claim anything about his alignment?

[Lime Coke]

I'm with Made.

Will push thoughts there.

Are you town or wolf?
Is Delta town or wolf?
Did Long Con flip town or did he not flip at all?
Did Windward claim their second roleblock target?
Did Bereft claim anything about his alignment?

Town.
He was 3P.
Town.
No.
No.

[leetic]

I'm with Made.

Will push thoughts there.

Are you town or wolf?
Is Delta town or wolf?
Did Long Con flip town or did he not flip at all?
Did Windward claim their second roleblock target?
Did Bereft claim anything about his alignment?

Town.
He was 3P.
Town.
No.
No.

What kind of ITP?

[leetic]

I'll treat Long Con as flipped town, I don't think wolf!Brad has a reason to lie about that. I'll take the other answers with a grain of salt for now.

[leetic]

Although a wolfteam of ilario/Delta/Brad would mean the other thread would be done, so

[Lime Coke]

I'm with Made.

Will push thoughts there.

Are you town or wolf?
Is Delta town or wolf?
Did Long Con flip town or did he not flip at all?
Did Windward claim their second roleblock target?
Did Bereft claim anything about his alignment?

Town.
He was 3P.
Town.
No.
No.

What kind of ITP?

Has to guess night kill and what they flip.

Stop asking useless questions I only have 10 posts dude.

[leetic]

Still, if Brad's answers are true it means the other thread isn't doing much better than we are. Maybe the ITPs are the big threats here?

[leetic]

I'm with Made.

Will push thoughts there.

Are you town or wolf?
Is Delta town or wolf?
Did Long Con flip town or did he not flip at all?
Did Windward claim their second roleblock target?
Did Bereft claim anything about his alignment?

Town.
He was 3P.
Town.
No.
No.

What kind of ITP?

Has to guess night kill and what they flip.

Stop asking useless questions I only have 10 posts dude.

Not a useless question, we have reason to suspect Bereft is ITP

[Lime Coke]

I'm with Made.

Will push thoughts there.

Are you town or wolf?
Is Delta town or wolf?
Did Long Con flip town or did he not flip at all?
Did Windward claim their second roleblock target?
Did Bereft claim anything about his alignment?

Town.
He was 3P.
Town.
No.
No.

What kind of ITP?

Has to guess night kill and what they flip.

Stop asking useless questions I only have 10 posts dude.

Not a useless question, we have reason to suspect Bereft is ITP

I mean there's a chance I feel like his posts in the other thread were trolly as hell.

[leetic]

Alexy
Bereft
Cape90
DarlingMonroe
Delta
DrWilgy
Gira
ilario
Jackofhearts2005
leetic
Lime Coke
Long Con
MacDougall
Made
nutella
Porscha
potentialsheltervet
Princess Abigail
pyxxy
Ranmilia
robyn
RondoDimBuckle
Scotty
tedxtr
TonyStarkPrime
tutuu
WindwardAway

The current state of play

Updated. Coloring Delta purple for third party, as the only way this is a lie is if Brad is a wolf, and a Delta/Brad w/w world isn't one worth worrying about.

[leetic]

Confirmed pairings:
nutella/Mac
ilario/TSP
Porscha/Abby
Jack/Ranmilla
tutuu/robyn
Delta/no one
Long Con/WindwardAway
Brad/Made

Also updated. @Lime Coke know who Bereft's and pyxxy's partners are?

[Ranmilia]

I'm with Made.

Will push thoughts there.

Hihi, welcome. Jack has questions (and I'd also like to hear what jack flipped), he's not around right this minute but stay tuned for more.

- Who did pyxxy show up with and what did he say?

- Who did bereft show up with and what did he say?

- How did you go over? Who be wolves on that side?

[leetic]

What the hell was everyone doing at EoD2?

RDB: Was moving their vote around like crazy. Criticized me for not following their pyxxy vote for "waganomics". Said DizzyMade wagon was dead, criticized me for trying to "revive" it. Last three votes were making DizzyMade tied with TSP, switching to me, and then voting TSP condemning him to death.

DizzyMade: Slanked. Last vote was 2 hours before EoD on Ranmilia, but it was quickly retracted.

Gira: Was pushing pyxxy for a while, asked for help to make the wagon "viable". "Re-thinking things" 2 hours before EoD and votes TSP. Stays with TSP over DizzyMade because "gut".

Abby: Defends DizzyMade, votes pyxxy 3 hours before EoD, dips.

Ranmilia: "Down to kill" TSP if ilario doesn't show up. Votes TSP an hour before EoD, but still thinks DizzyMade is a better wagon. Switches to DizzyMade 20 minutes to EoD, switches back right on the buzzer

tedxtr: Votes pyxxy 3 hours before EoD, saying it's a better option than DizzyMade and RDB (doesn't mention TSP oddly). Goes back and forth on RDB for a short while afterwards, settles on pyxxy, then dips.

For comparison's sake, the flipped players (and Bereft)

TSP: Hedges on pyxxy and then dips.

Windward: Gets into a couple of irrelevant arguments and stays parked on TSP.

pyxxy: Mostly fluffposting and outing my soft. Closest thing to a suspicion they pushed is DizzyMade, who is "bleh", no mention of TSP

Bereft: "pyxxy is micro'ing town", votes TSP with a little over an hour to EoD, much of the rest is mechanical talk, somehow posted after deadline

[leetic]

So at a quick glance, Gira actually looks really good from that EoD, to the point where I would not advocate a vote their today. They seemed to be the most consistent and unwavering TSP voter of everyone alive today, and if they even considered switching to Dizzy the result of D2 might look different.

[leetic]

Now, on the other hand, ted's look the worst. Granted, pyxxy's interactions look terrible too and he flipped town, but ted still has the least reason out of anyone alive to be townread for their actions at EoD. @tedxtr why did you seemingly not consider TSP as an option but did consider pyxxy, DizzyMade, and RDB?

[leetic]

As for the rest, Ranmilia looks decent even if the switch can be seen as a little opportunistic. Abby's and DizzyMade's don't really give us anything. Thus, for now I would like to [VOTE: RDB] aubergine. They technically broke a tie, but it was only a "tie" because of RDB in the first place, and wolves may have been unlikely to want to let it rand. Keep in mind that the voters on the DizzyMade wagon were more malleable than the ones on TSP, as both me and Ranmilia expressed a willingness to switch to TSP whereas Gira had explicitly refused to join the Dizzy wagon. Plus, a lot of RDB's thoughts at that time appear really frazzled in hindsight.

[Ranmilia]

[VOTE: Unvote] aubergine

The bad faith stuff drives me up the wall but. Historically does come from town. Jack also does not approve of voting Gira or ted or leetic (primarily leetic, top townread). We're looking into rondo. We also both raised eyebrows at this post:

I think ran is morelikely town than Abigail, so I'll vote with Ran for now
[VOTE: Gira] aubergine

[leetic]

So at a quick glance, Gira actually looks really good from that EoD, to the point where I would not advocate a vote their today. They seemed to be the most consistent and unwavering TSP voter of everyone alive today, and if they even considered switching to Dizzy the result of D2 might look different.

Wrong there. Just goes to show how tired I am from the last few days. That, or my phone's autocorrect is just going wild (both are possibilities)

[leetic]

Although the question is, if it's RDB who is their partner? None of these besides maybe Abby look compatible at a glance.

[leetic]

Although the question is, if it's RDB who is their partner? None of these besides maybe Abby look compatible at a glance.

Or I guess DizzyMade too? Thought they were voting RDB for some reason, but I guess it would explain their behavior at EoD

[Ranmilia]

just FYI my parents are coming in to visit either sunday or monday and that is gonna take my mafia time from "i need to pull back" to "nonexistent"

so uh. would really be nice to not be in lylo then. potentially we can even win if bereft was scum, though with 3ps confirmed i'm not getting my hopes up about anything.

[Lime Coke]

I'm with Made.

Will push thoughts there.

Hihi, welcome. Jack has questions (and I'd also like to hear what jack flipped), he's not around right this minute but stay tuned for more.

- Who did pyxxy show up with and what did he say?

- Who did bereft show up with and what did he say?

- How did you go over? Who be wolves on that side?

Pxxy never posted in our thread.

Bereft said he thought Porscha was mafia and you were town.

[leetic]

I'm with Made.

Will push thoughts there.

Hihi, welcome. Jack has questions (and I'd also like to hear what jack flipped), he's not around right this minute but stay tuned for more.

- Who did pyxxy show up with and what did he say?

- Who did bereft show up with and what did he say?

- How did you go over? Who be wolves on that side?

Pxxy never posted in our thread.

Bereft said he thought Porscha was mafia and you were town.

Didn't Porscha flip town? Do you mean Abby?

[Ranmilia]

I'm with Made.

Will push thoughts there.

Hihi, welcome. Jack has questions (and I'd also like to hear what jack flipped), he's not around right this minute but stay tuned for more.

- Who did pyxxy show up with and what did he say?

- Who did bereft show up with and what did he say?

- How did you go over? Who be wolves on that side?

Pxxy never posted in our thread.

Bereft said he thought Porscha was mafia and you were town.

oh. well based on what you know, who do you think is a good vote in this thread right now?

[Ranmilia]

I'm with Made.

Will push thoughts there.

Hihi, welcome. Jack has questions (and I'd also like to hear what jack flipped), he's not around right this minute but stay tuned for more.

- Who did pyxxy show up with and what did he say?

- Who did bereft show up with and what did he say?

- How did you go over? Who be wolves on that side?

Pxxy never posted in our thread.

Bereft said he thought Porscha was mafia and you were town.

Didn't Porscha flip town? Do you mean Abby?

ah I'm too late you gave it away.

yeah these don't check out so I'm thinking lime wolf.

[leetic]

Honestly, if wolves aren't in RDB/DizzyMade/Abby, well played (well, discounting shenanigans like wolf Bereft somehow dying last night). I wish I was confident enough to push this as a winning PoE, but tedxtr is just a bit questionable right now…

[leetic]

I'm with Made.

Will push thoughts there.

Hihi, welcome. Jack has questions (and I'd also like to hear what jack flipped), he's not around right this minute but stay tuned for more.

- Who did pyxxy show up with and what did he say?

- Who did bereft show up with and what did he say?

- How did you go over? Who be wolves on that side?

Pxxy never posted in our thread.

Bereft said he thought Porscha was mafia and you were town.

Didn't Porscha flip town? Do you mean Abby?

ah I'm too late you gave it away.

yeah these don't check out so I'm thinking lime wolf.

I mean, if that's the case I respect him for trying unlike ilario. Still, the other thread has not been good with sending people who are particularly helpful with what's going on in the other thread (Jack being the only one).

[leetic]

I'm with Made.

Will push thoughts there.

Hihi, welcome. Jack has questions (and I'd also like to hear what jack flipped), he's not around right this minute but stay tuned for more.

- Who did pyxxy show up with and what did he say?

- Who did bereft show up with and what did he say?

- How did you go over? Who be wolves on that side?

Pxxy never posted in our thread.

Bereft said he thought Porscha was mafia and you were town.

Didn't Porscha flip town? Do you mean Abby?

ah I'm too late you gave it away.

yeah these don't check out so I'm thinking lime wolf.

Anyway, I at least believe his claims regarding Delta and Long Con, do you believe them?