Ted Lasso Mafia - game over!

[Bereft]

Also, unless Robyn would like to come out here and explain to me exactly what teams they think are plausible from J^3's POE, I will be frankly ignoring that until I can come to a reasonably informed view of the game before I revisit J^3's magnum opus.

[Bereft]

I quite frankly have no clue of DM's alignment at this stage of the game. Sorry but that's what happens the inactive guy that everyone just assumes has to be a part of the team, flips.

I similarly have no clue of what LoRab's alignment. That their slot continues to exist with any reasonable conclusions on the slot is worrying.

If you believe that it was obvious that Mich/LoRab was v/w, then you should probably state your reasoning as such.

[Bereft]

I believe that's the extent of what I have to say before I revisit stuff. Outside of the Robyn/Cape pair, my highest townread is Rondo. But Rondo has said he doesn't want to be townleader until lategame, and I have the exact same position, but one of us is probably going to have to give in, and its probably going to have to be me.

Unless J^3's appointee, Dr. Wilgy wants it.

I highly doubt Robyn wants it after yesterday. Cape is a possibility.

[DarlingMonroe]

wait, so no night kill?

also at least one wolf in: Bereft, Cape, Robyn or Thunal.

They are the only ones who voted to lynch town twice: seanzie and ts account,

Why are they not wrong town?

I do not think all wolves missed the opportunity to jump on a townie lynch, especially with close votes. Agree some are wrong town, but at least one has to be wolf.

Has to be? How like a toddler

are you saying every single vote for seanzie and ts account were exclusively by town and no one wolf voted for them?

Im asking you to explain more than just the votes. What specific pushes have they made that are weird if they are a wolf? Its all good to do vote analysis but you gotta back it up with some posts that look bad or explain a wolf team coherency.

actions/votes > posts

wolfs typically refrain from pushing heavily bc they dont wan to normally lead a townie lynch, thus they wait for townies to wrongly collide in a fellow townie and then jump into the bandwagon w/ a vote... aka all of what bereft has been doing

robyn has magically cleared cape and bereft from day 1 and then pushed heavily for ts account elimination, aka not town behavior

thunal may just be wrong town, similarly cape, but idk.....

[Bereft]

"robyn has magically cleared cape and bereft from day 1 and then pushed heavily for ts account elimination, aka not town behavior"

:/

[DarlingMonroe]

"robyn has magically cleared cape and bereft from day 1 and then pushed heavily for ts account elimination, aka not town behavior"

:/

yeah idk how ':/' is town....

[RondoDimBuckle]

I believe that's the extent of what I have to say before I revisit stuff. Outside of the Robyn/Cape pair, my highest townread is Rondo. But Rondo has said he doesn't want to be townleader until lategame, and I have the exact same position, but one of us is probably going to have to give in, and its probably going to have to be me.

Unless J^3's appointee, Dr. Wilgy wants it.

I highly doubt Robyn wants it after yesterday. Cape is a possibility.

Its actually going to be me so don't worry about it

[Bereft]

I believe that's the extent of what I have to say before I revisit stuff. Outside of the Robyn/Cape pair, my highest townread is Rondo. But Rondo has said he doesn't want to be townleader until lategame, and I have the exact same position, but one of us is probably going to have to give in, and its probably going to have to be me.

Unless J^3's appointee, Dr. Wilgy wants it.

I highly doubt Robyn wants it after yesterday. Cape is a possibility.

Its actually going to be me so don't worry about it

Ok thank you, I can go back to my vacation.

[RondoDimBuckle]

I am going to be afk after 4pm today for like 24 hours so if you can take over then yay

[Bereft]

I don't know what timezone that 4 pm is in, but sure I can fill in the interim position, if that's clarified to be a workable time.

[Bereft]

Michelle spew is a thing that exists. I don't remember if anyone did it or not, so someone should do it please. I may or may not.

[RondoDimBuckle]

I don't know what timezone that 4 pm is in, but sure I can fill in the interim position, if that's clarified to be a workable time.

4 and a half hours

[RondoDimBuckle]

Michelle spew is a thing that exists. I don't remember if anyone did it or not, so someone should do it please. I may or may not.

A few people did I looked myself and couldn't find much mostly jjj

[RondoDimBuckle]

Sorry @JaggedJimmyJay I missed out yesterday

[Bereft]

Ok I opened up the Michelle iso and anyone pushing Roby or Cape needs to consider that either they're scum or they should work harder.

This is the whole Micheele pointing out that P#37 from Robyn was somehow good, and the whole Cape/Michelle interaction involving accusations of pocketing.

[DarlingMonroe]

Ok I opened up the Michelle iso and anyone pushing Roby or Cape needs to consider that either they're scum or they should work harder.

This is the whole Micheele pointing out that P#37 from Robyn was somehow good, and the whole Cape/Michelle interaction involving accusations of pocketing.

im slightly confused, are you sussing Robyn/Cape or town reading them?

[Bereft]

I am townreading Robyn/Cape, and you should too.
Anyways I was halfway thru the Michelle iso, and you don't seem like the most likely partner for them.

[Scotty]

Hi fam

I’m feeeeeelin fine today

[VOTE: SVS] aubergine I’m coming round on

[Scotty]

I am townreading Robyn/Cape, and you should too.
Anyways I was halfway thru the Michelle iso, and you don't seem like the most likely partner for them.

Everyone is town reading cape and Robyn- this isn’t a bold take

Come vote your partner with me

Solve is within SVS/rondo/bereft/maaaybe DM

[Bereft]

Can we go back to being all chummy and acting like the game's over like we were yesterday when it wasn't even, 'cause the game's not gonna suddenly become more exciting. And I'm saying this knowing that I'm going to be the one around when we're down 2-3 mafia.

This looks a perspective slip but since robyn said so convinced they're in town core that means there's something else and I think I get it

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[Bereft]

yeah, bereft/michelle/lorab/svs is where I am at for wolves

and it seems town has gotten it together with votes on all of them... and them not voting for each other or for townies is what is convincing me

Scotty, you can just say you agree with DX Darling Monroe.

[DarlingMonroe]

yeah, bereft/michelle/lorab/svs is where I am at for wolves

and it seems town has gotten it together with votes on all of them... and them not voting for each other or for townies is what is convincing me

Scotty, you can just say you agree with DX Darling Monroe.

whew iconic posts if they do end up being the wolves

[Bereft]

And if you think that "pairs us", oh well

Actually, I think the opposite. From what I know of SVS I really don't think she'd use a teammate's irl availability to shield her.

I think that’s NAI (individually and interactively).

Why do you think it's NAI?

A lot of my stronger town tells are because I don't think the person would even have the thought as mafia.

I think that was one of those moments where Michelle said reasoning mafia wouldn't even think of. I don't see Michelle as someone who has as in-depth reasoning as scum and absolutely would make that kind of read as a snap take and leave it. The fact that she considered all this history with this read in particular, an easy townread on the scariest player in the game, I think is something scum Michelle wouldn't do. It's the kind of read that would be an afterthought as scum.

Your conclusion was and is rushed and limited by the fact I didn't have time to explain it at all.
I started to play 5 years ago as noob player, with low English reading/writing skills, but with a life experience who let me the possibility to understand things unspoken behind the words. It felt thrilling to find words to defend myself while I was accused of being the bad guy. As mafia, I didn't even have to do much because my mafia rands were not many so my start in forum mafia was to be villager again and again.
My homie who restarted the mafia section in our forum sent me to MU to play the Mentor mentee game in january 2019. My mentor is a legendary player and he mentored me after playing 12 years of mafia.
I was always paranoid playing with Momstrman, he is now retired, maybe turbo-ing from time to time, but at one moment I learned to read him by a small trick.
Because he is retired and also because he is not a Syndicate regular I can tell you about this trick, otherwise I hate to show my shortcuts for reading someone.
My mentor was always mentoring town when he was town giving advice for the play in general. As mafia he wasn't doing it. And I started to notice that at other very strong players as well.
You were doing it in our finale game and your start here made me write that post because I considered your advice useful for town.
I don't even believe it's the easiest town read you ever had. It's just a take I posted to see what feedback I receive from it. You speculated the rest. Made from it more than it was, imaginated the omgua when I said it's not set in stone.
A read made by game experience can be a bad or a good read, and i am always starting somewhere where an idea pops in my head, which is exactly what I did with the town read on you.

I think S~V~s has a general policy that she will endorse no matter who it is (and she's probably a bit more likely still with oldschooler posters like LoRab). I don't think it matters what alignment either of them are. It's part of her game philosophy.

The primary reason I don't share your confidence about that Michelle read is that I know with certainty that I have provided explanations like that as mafia. Mafia can definitely think of it, and indeed that's something I may even emphasize as mafia. Sometimes a narrative is sellable as a story, and you can be sure that I will capitalize on that as a wolf. I don't know really if that's in Michelle's playbook, but I know it's in mine. I am sure she is telling the truth, but I don't think it means much.

I'm also looking at it from the POV of Michelle specifically. She fooled me as a spectator and I looked at that scum game to find ways to read her, and I found that she was a bit more one-sided and oriented to survive. I don't think she would think of that as mafia and I also think her approach to the game would be different. More picking a target and pushing it, like continuing the OMGUS of you the whole time or picking someone else for the day.

The desire to survivie is not AI per se
Speccing a game =/= playing and you should know it

Also don't you know I am fighting for my life as town?

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[Bereft]

hopefully michelle is scum

I m not.!!!!!

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[Bereft]

Why in the everlasting $%#! was there a Neon wagon yesterday. I was checked out and didn't read like 2 pages in the middle, but I did not see how ridiculous this was until backreading.

[Scotty]

yeah, bereft/michelle/lorab/svs is where I am at for wolves

and it seems town has gotten it together with votes on all of them... and them not voting for each other or for townies is what is convincing me

Scotty, you can just say you agree with DX Darling Monroe.

What is DX?

[robyn]

bro i did not want to live, i've ran this game downy horribly

[robyn]

Rebecca Walton - She wants nothing more than revenge on Rupert for cheating and publicly humiliating her. If she finds him, she drains all his money. (She will not be told she found Rupert.)

this or

[Scotty]

Ok, you just posting Michelle’s posts with ellipses means little. Do you think those interactions look awkward with the person she’s talking to?

[robyn]

Colin Hughes - Spends most of the series hiding who he really is from his teammates. Hides behind another player once a night.

[robyn]

broooo why am i alive

[robyn]

fuck

[Scotty]

Why in the everlasting $%#! was there a Neon wagon yesterday. I was checked out and didn't read like 2 pages in the middle, but I did not see how ridiculous this was until backreading.

Because…everything she was saying was suspicious.

But I think I’ve turned around on her too

[Scotty]

Colin Hughes - Spends most of the series hiding who he really is from his teammates. Hides behind another player once a night.

What about this role?

[Bereft]

Robyn what the $%#! are you talking about rn.

[RondoDimBuckle]

Hi fam

I’m feeeeeelin fine today

[VOTE: SVS] aubergine I’m coming round on

[VOTE: scotty ] aubergine

[DarlingMonroe]

Ok, you just posting Michelle’s posts with ellipses means little. Do you think those interactions look awkward with the person she’s talking to?

that is exactly the type of reason why Bereft pings + their votes.... just wolf pretending to be wolf-hunting

[robyn]

i'm gonna sleep and blah, whatever, somethings wrong here

[Bereft]

Why in the everlasting $%#! was there a Neon wagon yesterday. I was checked out and didn't read like 2 pages in the middle, but I did not see how ridiculous this was until backreading.

Because…everything she was saying was suspicious.

But I think I’ve turned around on her too

No man. Simply no.

I stated at SoD. Ya know, why not take Neon at face value, and no one cared.

[Bereft]

i'm gonna sleep and blah, whatever, somethings wrong here

Do you even know how to read the setup????

[Bereft]

I do think the most plausible explanation for the lack of death is a save on Robyn.

Other options seem less likely on a probability basis.

That is all I have to say on that.

I'm clearly not ok. Anyways, so that post is wrong, moving on.

[RondoDimBuckle]

broooo why am i alive

That is a very good question and you should read my mind

[robyn]

ah, got your scumcase on scotty?

[RondoDimBuckle]

@☆Princess Abigail☆ are you aware of anything new?

[robyn]

yeah i wonder what @Thunal33 thinks

[Bereft]

broooo why am i alive

That is a very good question and you should read my mind

nice

[RondoDimBuckle]

ah, got your scumcase on scotty?

Just follow me today

[Bereft]

@☆Princess Abigail☆ are you aware of anything new?

they cant be

[Bereft]

yeah i wonder what @Thunal33 thinks

thought about it, but doubt it

[Bereft]

yeah i know that places us in an extremely strange position but i legitimately dont know who would know

rondo exists tho