Ted Lasso Mafia - game over!

[robyn]

@DarlingMonroe why do you tr bereft, didn’t you used to sr him?

[DarlingMonroe]

@DarlingMonroe why do you tr bereft, didn’t you used to sr him?

well yes, but then you were adamant he was town so I figured it how to do with a NA, so I believe you and thus bereft;

isn't that the point of the game, though? as the days pass and more information is found, reads can organically change and develop

it'd be kinda weird if all same reads from day 1 stayed the same in day 5, imo

[robyn]

@DarlingMonroe why do you tr bereft, didn’t you used to sr him?

well yes, but then you were adamant he was town so I figured it how to do with a NA, so I believe you and thus bereft;

isn't that the point of the game, though? as the days pass and more information is found, reads can organically change and develop

it'd be kinda weird if all same reads from day 1 stayed the same in day 5, imo

when did u change ur mind on bereft if u remember

[DarlingMonroe]

@DarlingMonroe why do you tr bereft, didn’t you used to sr him?

well yes, but then you were adamant he was town so I figured it how to do with a NA, so I believe you and thus bereft;

isn't that the point of the game, though? as the days pass and more information is found, reads can organically change and develop

it'd be kinda weird if all same reads from day 1 stayed the same in day 5, imo

when did u change ur mind on bereft if u remember

at like some point in day 4, where it felt like bereft being wolf was just a wrong dead-end and it felt futile pursuing that path

[robyn]

@DarlingMonroe why do you tr bereft, didn’t you used to sr him?

well yes, but then you were adamant he was town so I figured it how to do with a NA, so I believe you and thus bereft;

isn't that the point of the game, though? as the days pass and more information is found, reads can organically change and develop

it'd be kinda weird if all same reads from day 1 stayed the same in day 5, imo

when did u change ur mind on bereft if u remember

at like some point in day 4, where it felt like bereft being wolf was just a wrong dead-end and it felt futile pursuing that path

what’s ur confidence level in bereft town

[DarlingMonroe]

@DarlingMonroe why do you tr bereft, didn’t you used to sr him?

well yes, but then you were adamant he was town so I figured it how to do with a NA, so I believe you and thus bereft;

isn't that the point of the game, though? as the days pass and more information is found, reads can organically change and develop

it'd be kinda weird if all same reads from day 1 stayed the same in day 5, imo

when did u change ur mind on bereft if u remember

at like some point in day 4, where it felt like bereft being wolf was just a wrong dead-end and it felt futile pursuing that path

what’s ur confidence level in bereft town

well my confidence level in bereft town is tied to my confidence level in you being town, so pretty strong

[robyn]

monroe, how has thunal been wolfy to you?

[Bereft]

<Wilgy, Thunal, DM, Scotty>

Lorab?

[robyn]

<Wilgy, Thunal, DM, Scotty>

Lorab?

lorab town

[RondoDimBuckle]

scotty man and thunal u girltwink, can i get readslists

unordered in tiers:

Abi
Bereft
robyn
Rondo
Wilgy

DM
LoRab
Scotty

I'll get more of an order once I dig into stuff but I feel like we should look in the bottom 3 for today.

why wilgy?

He's not as town as the others not in my immediate PoE but I feel good about him. He's consistently been on the right side with Michelle, still voted SVS when it mattered, and felt like town Wilgy.

I really cant stress enough that points for the SVS kill are weird because it is actually in this setup better for wolves to kill SVS

I get that SVS was probably outed but it would still be better for wolves to kill a townie.

No it REALLY wasn't

[Scotty]

im thinking its thunal & lorab / scotty / princess A

the rest are pretty town like, from my pov

One thing that bothers me about yesterday with you: I seem to remember you coming into d3 wanting SVS’ head; and then in d4 it felt as though she wasn’t even on your radar. What changed, if anything?

everytime I pushed for SVS, everyone ignored me. So since I wanted SVS gone, and there were votes on them already, I was cautious that if i voted, then others would unvote SVS, so instead I voted for the person I am voting for currently, Thunal. which is my biggest ping atm

The idea that you wouldn’t push someone because there were already votes there tells me you didn’t have conviction to begin with

[Scotty]

Having read the most recent page, and gone through SVS posts.... they ping me the post so voting for them (SVS)... Scotty might be wolf, but I don't see it personally.

this was literally my fifth post of the game, day 1

i have been going for SVS since day 1 and that read was correct; michelle read as wolf was correct too; my read on ts account was wrong.

I remember your throughline on SVs as such, which is why it was weird when you did decide to slope off entirely

[Scotty]

Why is Abbi town? I no longer feel as good.

I’m flip flopping on her each phase it feels like, but that SVS throughline as one of her strongest town reads…is sure something

You clearly don't know me if you don't realize based on how I read the game I'm wrong occasionally and I will hard defend my reads

How would you describe your wolf game? Because again I don’t remember ever seeing it as reference

[robyn]

scotty boyo, thoughts on wigly/thunal scum

also are u cop?

[Scotty]

another way to justify the poe is to realize that yeah lol, cape isnt the NK here unless mafia has literally just been checked out.

its really not that hard

I think it’s blatantly obvious mafia are in a funk, or just not participating.

SVS and Michelle could both be classified as such. Abbi is the outlier in that she’s been around, but hasn’t been a part of the pushes save for the whole ‘Michelle is bad yall’ right before EoD.

Lorab would fit exactly with that mentality of mafia throwing in the towel.

I'm also... yanno... the reason 2 wolfs lay at your feet. My read not withstanding I've sealed the fate of both Michelle and SVS in the very end

I mean I'm a known hell busser but find me a game where I bussed in a manner that gets me minimal town cred.

PoEing me is dumb.

To say you’ve ’sealed the fate of someone’ and use this game as an example of one where you got minimal town cred is at odds.”, especially if you think you were a big instigator in being the one with the hammer.

This comment is ironic

[Scotty]

anyways i think its exactly DM/LoRab

Tell me why it’s not Abbi?

It seems abundantly clear that it became known to Abbie that Mich was wolf.

Ok, so it’s just believing what she said then?

Because that doesn’t hold water with me. It seems like blatant bussing with Michelle’s butter in the churner, so to speak

Sorry Scotty but I won't allow revisionist history. Read EoD 1 back again Michelle was safe with 5 minutes left until I appeared and told J3 to trust me and vote Michelle

I read it, but I also see a pattern in defensive posting and lack of wim where Michelle was exactly a dead woman walking. If not that yeet, then surely the one after. Getting a jump on it was a sure fire way to get town cred while you still could.

My reservation is perhaps an optimal strategy would be to save Michelle and then come out swinging the day after, but that’s also risky, and would be less towny imo

So never mind, I still think it’s opportunistic to pop a deflating balloon

[Scotty]

anyways i think its exactly DM/LoRab

Tell me why it’s not Abbi?

It seems abundantly clear that it became known to Abbie that Mich was wolf.

Ok, so it’s just believing what she said then?

Because that doesn’t hold water with me. It seems like blatant bussing with Michelle’s butter in the churner, so to speak

Sir, its pseudo-verifiable.

Good news I've found you town

Bad news this push is just really not great

Why am I town to you

[Scotty]

Good news this push being so far off base is why I found you town

Ah







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[Scotty]

another way to justify the poe is to realize that yeah lol, cape isnt the NK here unless mafia has literally just been checked out.

its really not that hard

I think it’s blatantly obvious mafia are in a funk, or just not participating.

SVS and Michelle could both be classified as such. Abbi is the outlier in that she’s been around, but hasn’t been a part of the pushes save for the whole ‘Michelle is bad yall’ right before EoD.

Lorab would fit exactly with that mentality of mafia throwing in the towel.

I'm also... yanno... the reason 2 wolfs lay at your feet. My read not withstanding I've sealed the fate of both Michelle and SVS in the very end

I mean I'm a known hell busser but find me a game where I bussed in a manner that gets me minimal town cred.

PoEing me is dumb.

I sealed the fate of SVS. Everything else is window dressing

I’m Spartacus

[Scotty]

Honestly I am back to Thunal/Princess A for my two biggest wolf reads

I can’t keep track of your scum reads any more

Where did I go

What about Abbi brought you back into the fold?

What is the airspeed velocity of an unladen swallow?

[Scotty]

To be clear my wilgy read is off JJJ's confidence in letting wilgy be town leader, Neon killing Michelle just feels town and Lorab here just afk town is the most likely I could be wrong on.

My town read of Wilgy has nothing to do with JJJ (no offense JJJ if you’re reading this) and a lot to do with his insistence of Michelle (or me) being the yeet over Seanzie. He looked really committed to Michelle before Michelle started really taking a nosedive.

I know Wilgy is a known potential busser but the way he went about it lacked an agenda

[Scotty]

i dont think theres any way now that lorab is wolf tbh

Of course, you *would* conclude that if you were partners with her.

But huh. I think the lack of effort from the wolves is what I’m basing so much of my scum read on Lorab on.

I think I need to be sold on thunal tho

[Scotty]

@RondoDimBuckle I have. been pushing for SVS since Day 1, the fact that I did not vote for them Day4 when there was already 4 votes on them, means nothing. If I was wolf, I would have used my vote to at least go against scotty who would have had 4 votes and would have been easier to flip than actually voting for Thunal; who I voted for because I want to highlight my distrust for them, and I think they are wolf skating by

But not put a vote on someone like SVS, who wasn’t skating by, and who was not in the lead until basically end of day by my count. Didn’t she have like 1-2 votes most the day?

I think if you had voted me, THAT would have put me at like 4-5 votes, which most certainly had a chance to scare people away.

I feel like your argument here makes no sense

[Scotty]

@RondoDimBuckle I have. been pushing for SVS since Day 1, the fact that I did not vote for them Day4 when there was already 4 votes on them, means nothing. If I was wolf, I would have used my vote to at least go against scotty who would have had 4 votes and would have been easier to flip than actually voting for Thunal; who I voted for because I want to highlight my distrust for them, and I think they are wolf skating by

when there was already 5 votes on them (SVS)*

I didn’t keep track, but it felt like any time I was in thread, SVS was never in the lead. Am I crazy?

You most certainly would have made a dent if you had voted there earlier

[Scotty]

The town literally ignoring Thunal and Princess A as the remaining wolves is going to be its death sentence

What is your biggest gripe with Thunal?

I’ll go- I think she’s made some BIZARRE choices if she is wolf. She’s been kinda all over the place and reckless with her voting and reads. I guess I also don’t remember what sort of wolf she normally is, but she is not locked into anything it feels like. It might just be my perception, but it feels like her opinion of me changes more than I fart. And I fart a lot.
It’s a too wolf to be wolf argument. And that’s why she’s not a top town, but also why it doesn’t make sense.

I’ll reassess if I’m wrong on you. But I feel like I’ve caught your pickle, as they say

[Scotty]

@Scotty @Bereft
read on thunal/princess A?

You mean as partners? Before I left yesterday, I thought my views on Abbi were pretty clear.

I guess I can see them as partners based solely on how polar opposites they are in this vacuum.

You pushing Abbi here makes me question a world with you as her partner however.

I kinda feel like I need a solve between you and Abbi, because I think it more likely it’s either you/lorab or Abbi/lorab

Like maybe I should just vote Lorab here lol

[DrWilgy]

pickle

[Scotty]

I could have let it Rand

But then what kind of cred would you get from that?

[Scotty]

honestly dont care if I die much

Well that would certainly match the 2 revealed mafia in behavior this game

[Scotty]

I don't like that I know nothing about DM as a player. There absolutely are players who distance a lot from their teammates and bus for little reason but I don't know if DM is one of those.

How are you as a wolf? Like, are tou known to be methodical or balls to the wall? Or do you change it up game to game?

[Scotty]

Also, their gameplay this game seems to match as they were in severance
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Ok

Have you seen DM’s wolf game? A sample size of 1 game is less than ideal

[Scotty]

I could go with LoRab for wolf, but I feel like if they were truly wolf, they would had been replaced already / or we would had seen more activity from them ? If not, and LoRab is wolf, then Thunal is my final wolf read.

Michelle / SVS / LoRab / Thunal

IF Lorab is town, then Michelle / SVS / Thunal / Princess A or Scotty

[VOTE: Lorab] aubergine

The idea for lorab not being wolf because ‘if so, she would’ve been replaced already’ holds no weight tho. Didn’t seem like anyone was in line to cover ts account when he was out for a bit, so why think it would start now

[robyn]

I could go with LoRab for wolf, but I feel like if they were truly wolf, they would had been replaced already / or we would had seen more activity from them ? If not, and LoRab is wolf, then Thunal is my final wolf read.

Michelle / SVS / LoRab / Thunal

IF Lorab is town, then Michelle / SVS / Thunal / Princess A or Scotty

[VOTE: Lorab] aubergine

The idea for lorab not being wolf because ‘if so, she would’ve been replaced already’ holds no weight tho. Didn’t seem like anyone was in line to cover ts account when he was out for a bit, so why think it would start now

lorab town

[Scotty]

screaming, crying, throwing up

Ah yes, the classic three wise monkeys proverb

[Bereft]

screaming, crying, throwing up

Ah yes, the classic three wise monkeys proverb

you're certainly in a mood rn

[Scotty]

scotty boyo, thoughts on wigly/thunal scum

also are u cop?

I don’t think Wilgy has any scum equity. If he’s wolf, gg. Looking at his end of day 1 adamantly pushing Michelle over Seanzie was a losing move for mafia imo

Thunal could be. It’s more of a shrug. Definitely in the POE solely based on voting record and behavior

[Scotty]

pickle

Fo pickle my nickle

[Thunal33]

I could go with LoRab for wolf, but I feel like if they were truly wolf, they would had been replaced already / or we would had seen more activity from them ? If not, and LoRab is wolf, then Thunal is my final wolf read.

Michelle / SVS / LoRab / Thunal

IF Lorab is town, then Michelle / SVS / Thunal / Princess A or Scotty

why do you sr thunal?

Thunal's vote:
day 1 - seanzie
day 2 - lorab (instead of the michelle wagon)
day 3 - ts account
day 4 - svs (once it was pretty clear svs had kinda given up [not even bothering to vote]

+ their posts.... & just process of elimination

with 9 players, 7 town, 2 scum

i feel good about [robyn, bereft, rondo, dr. wilgy, myself] that's 5

so the remaining pool [lorab, thunal, scotty, princess a] has 2 wolves and 2 towns, and from those, thunal has been more wolfie than scotty at least, lorab has giving us nothing, while princess A has super town moments and then super wolf moments, so its tough

You're leaving out that I went after SVS day 1, thought SVS was likely a wolf day 3 and I had my vote parked on her most of that phase. I'm pretty sure you're 0/2 with me/Abi.

[RondoDimBuckle]

another way to justify the poe is to realize that yeah lol, cape isnt the NK here unless mafia has literally just been checked out.

its really not that hard

I think it’s blatantly obvious mafia are in a funk, or just not participating.

SVS and Michelle could both be classified as such. Abbi is the outlier in that she’s been around, but hasn’t been a part of the pushes save for the whole ‘Michelle is bad yall’ right before EoD.

Lorab would fit exactly with that mentality of mafia throwing in the towel.

I'm also... yanno... the reason 2 wolfs lay at your feet. My read not withstanding I've sealed the fate of both Michelle and SVS in the very end

I mean I'm a known hell busser but find me a game where I bussed in a manner that gets me minimal town cred.

PoEing me is dumb.

I sealed the fate of SVS. Everything else is window dressing

I’m Spartacus

Are you side sussing me or is this a joke? Do you actually support the fact that svs is my kill?

[Thunal33]

I don't like that I know nothing about DM as a player. There absolutely are players who distance a lot from their teammates and bus for little reason but I don't know if DM is one of those.

How are you as a wolf? Like, are tou known to be methodical or balls to the wall? Or do you change it up game to game?

I'm usually pretty careful and focused on survival. Honestly, the EoD I'd never do as a wolf is pushing people to vote LoRab over Michelle. I can wolfside or bus but I really don't strongly defend my sinking teammates as a wolf. I had a very difficult game as town when I went from townread to permanently PoEd the entire game because I defended a wolf who flipped day 1 and that was strongly in my memory during the wolf rands I've had since returning.

[Scotty]

I could go with LoRab for wolf, but I feel like if they were truly wolf, they would had been replaced already / or we would had seen more activity from them ? If not, and LoRab is wolf, then Thunal is my final wolf read.

Michelle / SVS / LoRab / Thunal

IF Lorab is town, then Michelle / SVS / Thunal / Princess A or Scotty

[VOTE: Lorab] aubergine

The idea for lorab not being wolf because ‘if so, she would’ve been replaced already’ holds no weight tho. Didn’t seem like anyone was in line to cover ts account when he was out for a bit, so why think it would start now

lorab town

so I’ve heard

By you

Why don’t you lead the vote then

[Thunal33]

I don't understand DM this game. @DarlingMonroe why did you switch from me/Scotty to me/Abi?

[Scotty]

I just feel like there are more possibilities in a Lorab/? Other

It’s not like she *isn’t* compatible with anyone

[Thunal33]

I just feel like there are more possibilities in a Lorab/? Other

It’s not like she *isn’t* compatible with anyone

It might actually look worse for people on the LoRab wagon if she were a wolf since it would be between an inactive mafia and an active mafia.

[Scotty]

another way to justify the poe is to realize that yeah lol, cape isnt the NK here unless mafia has literally just been checked out.

its really not that hard

I think it’s blatantly obvious mafia are in a funk, or just not participating.

SVS and Michelle could both be classified as such. Abbi is the outlier in that she’s been around, but hasn’t been a part of the pushes save for the whole ‘Michelle is bad yall’ right before EoD.

Lorab would fit exactly with that mentality of mafia throwing in the towel.

I'm also... yanno... the reason 2 wolfs lay at your feet. My read not withstanding I've sealed the fate of both Michelle and SVS in the very end

I mean I'm a known hell busser but find me a game where I bussed in a manner that gets me minimal town cred.

PoEing me is dumb.

I sealed the fate of SVS. Everything else is window dressing

I’m Spartacus

Are you side sussing me or is this a joke? Do you actually support the fact that svs is my kill?

I don’t currently suspect you with the implications of what has been said.

But yea, it’s a joke since I also voted for SVS and thought it was funny that two people are arguing over who sealed her fate

[Scotty]

I don't like that I know nothing about DM as a player. There absolutely are players who distance a lot from their teammates and bus for little reason but I don't know if DM is one of those.

How are you as a wolf? Like, are tou known to be methodical or balls to the wall? Or do you change it up game to game?

I'm usually pretty careful and focused on survival. Honestly, the EoD I'd never do as a wolf is pushing people to vote LoRab over Michelle. I can wolfside or bus but I really don't strongly defend my sinking teammates as a wolf. I had a very difficult game as town when I went from townread to permanently PoEd the entire game because I defended a wolf who flipped day 1 and that was strongly in my memory during the wolf rands I've had since returning.

k

This is good insight. Though when someone says what they’d do/not do as a wolf, I immediately put up my guard, because I don’t think most people are so binary that they only operate one way.

Would you agree that you haven’t been very accurate this game?

[Scotty]

I just feel like there are more possibilities in a Lorab/? Other

It’s not like she *isn’t* compatible with anyone

It might actually look worse for people on the LoRab wagon if she were a wolf since it would be between an inactive mafia and an active mafia.

what do you mean? Which Lorab wagon? Because currently that’s me and wilgy

[robyn]

scotty boyo, thoughts on wigly/thunal scum

also are u cop?

I don’t think Wilgy has any scum equity. If he’s wolf, gg. Looking at his end of day 1 adamantly pushing Michelle over Seanzie was a losing move for mafia imo

Thunal could be. It’s more of a shrug. Definitely in the POE solely based on voting record and behavior

oh you think thunal is cop?

[Thunal33]

I don't like that I know nothing about DM as a player. There absolutely are players who distance a lot from their teammates and bus for little reason but I don't know if DM is one of those.

How are you as a wolf? Like, are tou known to be methodical or balls to the wall? Or do you change it up game to game?

I'm usually pretty careful and focused on survival. Honestly, the EoD I'd never do as a wolf is pushing people to vote LoRab over Michelle. I can wolfside or bus but I really don't strongly defend my sinking teammates as a wolf. I had a very difficult game as town when I went from townread to permanently PoEd the entire game because I defended a wolf who flipped day 1 and that was strongly in my memory during the wolf rands I've had since returning.

k

This is good insight. Though when someone says what they’d do/not do as a wolf, I immediately put up my guard, because I don’t think most people are so binary that they only operate one way.

Would you agree that you haven’t been very accurate this game?

I really don't think I've been as wrong as people keep saying I am. Early on I suspected both SVS and Michelle and I really had a hand in creating the d1 Michelle wagon in the first place. I suspected SVS on day 3 and even cased her and actively pushed for her when it was her/Abi.

[Thunal33]

I just feel like there are more possibilities in a Lorab/? Other

It’s not like she *isn’t* compatible with anyone

It might actually look worse for people on the LoRab wagon if she were a wolf since it would be between an inactive mafia and an active mafia.

what do you mean? Which Lorab wagon? Because currently that’s me and wilgy

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