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Who mauled Master Radishes?

Poll ended at Wed Jan 03, 2024 7:00 pm

Scotty
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☆Princess Abigail☆/Porscha
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robyn
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Stick
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DrWilgy
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Garebare2468/Delta
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baker
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The Cavaliers (host/spec)
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Re: Wolfwalkers Lá a Dó (D2)

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Master Radishes wrote: Wed Dec 27, 2023 6:38 pm I tried reading from the beginning and got bored.

[VOTE: Stick] aubergine
Man you and Abbi should start up a bored convention
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Re: Wolfwalkers Lá a Dó (D2)

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Master Radishes wrote: Wed Dec 27, 2023 6:45 pm This post
Stick wrote: Wed Dec 27, 2023 8:25 am [VOTE: Master Radishes] aubergine poke poke

i know you just said youre busy and that you can play tomorrow but...until then!!
was bad. She's making busywork by 'poking' someone who has openly said they aren't going to be able to play till later. What was it supposed to achieve? Nothing productive - just makes her look like she's doing something.

I'm going to go iso Stick now and find confbiasy reasons to support this ping.
In her defense, sticks are known for poking

And you were not exactly lighting up the thread with content
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Re: Wolfwalkers Lá a Dó (D2)

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Long Con wrote: Wed Dec 27, 2023 6:09 pm
DrWilgy wrote: Wed Dec 27, 2023 6:06 pm Idk doods. It's kinda awkward as the no kill and a town protection role already being dead does, if slightly, increase the chance for the wolves to just be afk lol
Ooo. Not a bad point.

Are we assuming Lord Protector is a protection role, or was that explicitly laid out?
can protect against a single kill, do a cop check, cause two eliminations for a single day phase, tiebreaker

general potential mayhem for wolves (or town if double-elimination goes awry), but regardless very powerful role given the combo of things and would be even more powerful if there was another protective to protect it while doing a check
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If that doesn't make a mockery of my confidence in my solving then I don't know what will.
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Re: Wolfwalkers Lá a Dó (D2)

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Master Radishes wrote: Wed Dec 27, 2023 7:06 pm
Scotty wrote: Tue Dec 26, 2023 7:32 pm
MartinGG99 wrote: Tue Dec 26, 2023 7:25 pm especially since, uh, we may have voted one off recently
Yea. We
Now this is a towny entrance to D2. No bullshit emotional reaction to flipping falcon, just straight into the sass.

Even if Scotty is mafia he's done better than the rest of you.
I like these catchup takes. Not specifically this one but it’s original takes and it’s enough to make me Townlean you
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Re: Wolfwalkers Lá a Dó (D2)

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Master Radishes wrote: Wed Dec 27, 2023 7:17 pm I like Scotty's vibe. Seems comfortable in the thread.

Someone tell me what makes him mafia if you think I'm wrong.
@baker my leige, take it away
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Re: Wolfwalkers Lá a Dó (D2)

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MartinGG99 wrote: Wed Dec 27, 2023 7:33 pm
Scotty wrote: Wed Dec 27, 2023 1:26 pm
Stick wrote: Wed Dec 27, 2023 8:11 am is baker just omgusing scotty tho lmao. i so agree with baker that scotty assuming a pure wagon on falcon is outside the realm of possibilities is a bit of an unhinged take but i dont see the problem with the rest of those posts really
I think it’s more that Martin came into the thread today with the basic viewpoint that everyone not on that wagon was suspect. Like, to immediately believe that was a pure wagon is absolutely a strange, unsubstantiated assumption
I was on it as one of the voters and I believed that Baker was likely town based on the fact he offered to sheep -- I can dive into this more if you'd like, it wouldn't really involve meta. So then the task became figuring out if either (or both) of Stick and Wilgy was a wolfy. That's just two people, and as I said before I kinda just felt at the time if they were wolves then they were wolfing together (this view has changed since then, but its what I had at the time).

Is it really so hard to believe that I had such a viewpoint? Regardless of how substantiated or unsubstantiated you think it is?
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Re: Wolfwalkers Lá a Dó (D2)

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Who is a Satanic Wolfwalker?
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Scotty
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Voters: baker
☆Princess Abigail☆
1
9%
Voters: Long Con
robyn
0
No votes
Voters: None
Long Con
0
No votes
Voters: None
Master Radishes
1
9%
Voters: Stick
DarlingMonroe
1
9%
Voters: MartinGG99
Stick
1
9%
Voters: Master Radishes
DrWilgy
0
No votes
Voters: None
Garebare2468
0
No votes
Voters: None
baker
3
27%
Voters: DarlingMonroe, DrWilgy, Scotty
MartinGG99
0
No votes
Voters: None
The Papists (host/spec)
3
27%
Voters: Epignosis, S~V~S, leetic
Total votes: 11
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Re: Wolfwalkers Lá a Dó (D2)

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Edit: I have to get off around this time for IRL reasons, but didn't think I would be taking this long. So you all have this partial post. I will be back in like ~4-4.5 hours or so. Guaranteed.

I'm caught up. Going to compile my thoughts.

I think Scotty and Wilgy both got a good handle on this game, and if they somehow don't they will soon.

[VOTE: Baker] aubergine

Baker's posts d2 have not been great and he didn't really continue his sheeping attitude, which makes me lean performative for him. Also his poking at me about a supposed appeal by Scotty was just....like manipulative lol. As if he thought I wouldn't believe him as much in his read unless he tried to manipulate me on some nit-pick.

Stick has dropped a bit for me, but not significant enough that I would vote them. Edit-while-writing: Will add more to this later.

I can imagine a towny perspective from DM, doesn't feel very in-depth and kinda low-level but they've been consistently that way with their posts I think and I find that believable.

More thoughts here when I come back.
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If that doesn't make a mockery of my confidence in my solving then I don't know what will.
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Re: Wolfwalkers Lá a Dó (D2)

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I'm here, I'm queer, let's give a cheer
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Re: Wolfwalkers Lá a Dó (D2)

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Re: Wolfwalkers Lá a Dó (D2)

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robyn wrote: Wed Dec 27, 2023 8:33 pm baker
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Re: Wolfwalkers Lá a Dó (D2)

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Long Con wrote: Wed Dec 27, 2023 9:05 pm
robyn wrote: Wed Dec 27, 2023 8:33 pm baker
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extremely, what do you make of the wagon?
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Re: Wolfwalkers Lá a Dó (D2)

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robyn wrote: Wed Dec 27, 2023 9:06 pm
Long Con wrote: Wed Dec 27, 2023 9:05 pm
robyn wrote: Wed Dec 27, 2023 8:33 pm baker
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Voters: DarlingMonroe, DrWilgy, MartinGG99, Scotty

wowee
How wow?
extremely, what do you make of the wagon?
It might be that Baker is a wolf, and a good wagon.
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Re: Wolfwalkers Lá a Dó (D2)

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Long Con wrote: Wed Dec 27, 2023 9:10 pm
robyn wrote: Wed Dec 27, 2023 9:06 pm
Long Con wrote: Wed Dec 27, 2023 9:05 pm
robyn wrote: Wed Dec 27, 2023 8:33 pm baker
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36%
Voters: DarlingMonroe, DrWilgy, MartinGG99, Scotty

wowee
How wow?
extremely, what do you make of the wagon?
It might be that Baker is a wolf, and a good wagon.
do you have reads this game
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Re: Wolfwalkers Lá a Dó (D2)

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robyn wrote: Wed Dec 27, 2023 9:16 pm
Long Con wrote: Wed Dec 27, 2023 9:10 pm
robyn wrote: Wed Dec 27, 2023 9:06 pm
Long Con wrote: Wed Dec 27, 2023 9:05 pm
robyn wrote: Wed Dec 27, 2023 8:33 pm baker
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Voters: DarlingMonroe, DrWilgy, MartinGG99, Scotty

wowee
How wow?
extremely, what do you make of the wagon?
It might be that Baker is a wolf, and a good wagon.
do you have reads this game
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Re: Wolfwalkers Lá a Dó (D2)

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Long Con wrote: Wed Dec 27, 2023 9:18 pm
robyn wrote: Wed Dec 27, 2023 9:16 pm
Long Con wrote: Wed Dec 27, 2023 9:10 pm
robyn wrote: Wed Dec 27, 2023 9:06 pm
Long Con wrote: Wed Dec 27, 2023 9:05 pm
robyn wrote: Wed Dec 27, 2023 8:33 pm baker
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Voters: DarlingMonroe, DrWilgy, MartinGG99, Scotty

wowee
How wow?
extremely, what do you make of the wagon?
It might be that Baker is a wolf, and a good wagon.
do you have reads this game
Mostly mud. My mind is mud right now. I know that's not a great look, sorry.
which is it

1) you're emotionally unavailable after dealing with homophobic extended family
2) you've been hitting the bottle too much
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Re: Wolfwalkers Lá a Dó (D2)

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robyn wrote: Wed Dec 27, 2023 9:20 pm
Long Con wrote: Wed Dec 27, 2023 9:18 pm
robyn wrote: Wed Dec 27, 2023 9:16 pm
Long Con wrote: Wed Dec 27, 2023 9:10 pm
robyn wrote: Wed Dec 27, 2023 9:06 pm
Long Con wrote: Wed Dec 27, 2023 9:05 pm
robyn wrote: Wed Dec 27, 2023 8:33 pm baker
4
36%
Voters: DarlingMonroe, DrWilgy, MartinGG99, Scotty

wowee
How wow?
extremely, what do you make of the wagon?
It might be that Baker is a wolf, and a good wagon.
do you have reads this game
Mostly mud. My mind is mud right now. I know that's not a great look, sorry.
which is it

1) you're emotionally unavailable after dealing with homophobic extended family
2) you've been hitting the bottle too much
3) I'm freezing despite the fact that it's 22.5C in here, and my legs are achy.
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Re: Wolfwalkers Lá a Dó (D2)

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Master Radishes wrote: Wed Dec 27, 2023 6:57 pm Okay it wasn't that bad an iso but also it wasn't that good an iso either.

If I'm being unfair I'd nitpick these:
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Stick wrote: Tue Dec 26, 2023 7:47 pm @baker @Stick @DrWilgy @MartinGG99


i hope you guys sat down and reflected on your actions overnight
Out of context (I haven't really read EoD1) this is a performative post. She later says it was lighthearted or whatever but I don't really see where the jokey bit of it is?
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Stick wrote: Sun Dec 24, 2023 6:53 pm [VOTE: Long Con] aubergine i wont stop a falcon wagon tho
Stick wrote: Sun Dec 24, 2023 6:54 pm [VOTE: falcon45ca] aubergine

ok ill consolidate here lol
I give this vote a C-, borderline F.

Voting a wagon while hedging a town? Makes me just want to townread LC by association with this vote.
this is...a pretty ok analysis of those votes, ill say. mostly because i think your assessment of what my vote there looks reasonable and id have agreed with it if those posts werent made my me LOL
I hate these kind of 'your process was good even though you're wrong' placating sorta posts. Just comes across a appeasy for the sake of it.

There's little else I really had feelings about, which is kind of just as worrying. I feel like I shouldn't be reading one of the higher posters and thinking 'eh, that post could come from town, but also from scum' every time I read one of their posts. Has she gotten tangled up in any arguments? Again, massive caveat that I've not read everything closely, but I feel like she's sort of on the sidelines of things?

Anyway I'm always super indecisive when solving and I've vowed to myself to be more decisive from now on even if I end up wrong so Stick is lock mafia and you're all going to vote her with me and I will be your town captain now.
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Re: Wolfwalkers Lá a Dó (D2)

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Master Radishes wrote: Wed Dec 27, 2023 7:03 pm
MartinGG99 wrote: Tue Dec 26, 2023 7:24 pm aw come on

I was hoping I would die so I can focus on stuff I got from the holidays and not have to deal with our thread activity issue

would have more to say but I think its best to not really discuss the lack of night kill in order to avoid showing who's our power roles
'Aw shucks, too bad I didn't die like I thought was a legit possibility seeing as I'm town!'

Ew.
Long Con wrote: Tue Dec 26, 2023 7:42 pm Hope we've got a couple more power roles! That sucked.
'Oh gee willickers that sure is bad for us, fellow town!'

Double ew.
Stick wrote: Tue Dec 26, 2023 7:47 pm @baker @Stick @DrWilgy @MartinGG99

i hope you guys sat down and reflected on your actions overnight
'That sure was not a good result, fellow town!'

(Already said 'ew' in more words above ^ but quoting again for emphasis of how 'ew' these posts all are collectively.)
Hell yeah, mine isn't on here. I pass.
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Re: Wolfwalkers Lá a Dó (D2)

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Robyn's reentry was poot.

MR's was not poot.

Longus Congus feels like they've lost momentum and that is strange to me.

PoE feels like:
DM, Garebare, Baker, Robyn.

That's at least better than before.
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DrWilgy wrote: Wed Dec 27, 2023 11:33 pm Robyn's reentry was poot.
yeah it was, i didn't find time to read or respond to anything yet ftr
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MartinGG99 wrote: Wed Dec 27, 2023 8:08 pm Edit: I have to get off around this time for IRL reasons, but didn't think I would be taking this long. So you all have this partial post. I will be back in like ~4-4.5 hours or so. Guaranteed.

I'm caught up. Going to compile my thoughts.

I think Scotty and Wilgy both got a good handle on this game, and if they somehow don't they will soon.

[VOTE: Baker] aubergine

Baker's posts d2 have not been great and he didn't really continue his sheeping attitude, which makes me lean performative for him. Also his poking at me about a supposed appeal by Scotty was just....like manipulative lol. As if he thought I wouldn't believe him as much in his read unless he tried to manipulate me on some nit-pick.

Stick has dropped a bit for me, but not significant enough that I would vote them. Edit-while-writing: Will add more to this later.

I can imagine a towny perspective from DM, doesn't feel very in-depth and kinda low-level but they've been consistently that way with their posts I think and I find that believable.

More thoughts here when I come back.
I may have lost a few thoughts. But, anyways:

What sticks out to me about stick (sorry, legal obligation to make that once and its a crime that nobody this game has yet) as of late is that their interaction with me seemed weirdly suggestive earlier but unwilling to declare anything. They were more or less saying that I was having a selective perspective or take or whatever in the quote below, but don't really say anything of it other than some light probing. No saying I'm scummy or anything like that. That doesn't occur till they get "performative wolf vibes" from me later with respect to my reaction to Scotty's "crazy" comment. If I wanted to stretch this further, it felt like something a wolf might do if they see potential opportunities to renege on a townread but don't necessarily want to just yet.
Stick wrote: Wed Dec 27, 2023 7:49 am [Snipped by martin] what if abbi is a wolf? you dont seem to consider that world here, because in w!abbi worlds wolves wouldve jumped on any counter wagon imo


Upon thorough-er reading I think Master Radishes is decently good. Mild town, though I kinda feel like he's constructing his posts a bit (see 428 , 430, and 433 and consider the timing of what he is quoting across these posts) but displaying them sorta as if they were real-time. I think its ultimately fine, as I think we're all guilty of constructing our posts from time to time as any alignment so that we can make a point, but it does worry me a bit.
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MartinGG99 wrote: Mon May 31, 2021 12:40 am The only notable "solving" I've done publicly has managed to kill someone who had the same power role and alignment as me.

If that doesn't make a mockery of my confidence in my solving then I don't know what will.
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Re: Wolfwalkers Lá a Dó (D2)

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DrWilgy wrote: Wed Dec 27, 2023 11:33 pm Longus Congus feels like they've lost momentum and that is strange to me.
fwiw when they said the wagon that formed on baker was good, I kinda felt like that observation reflected positively on Long Con

but that's probably just mostly my gut rather than me subconsciously detecting anything AI
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If that doesn't make a mockery of my confidence in my solving then I don't know what will.
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MartinGG99 wrote: Wed Dec 27, 2023 8:08 pm Also his poking at me about a supposed appeal by Scotty was just....like manipulative lol
upon reflection I'm not entirely sure if that makes it wolfy by Baker

because if Baker is wolf then that might as well be willfully outing that I'm town and I don't think a wolf would risk it in circumstances where I could be seen as a decent partner to them

wolves just don't theater like that lol, and there's a sliiight chance where Baker was just being genuine but happened to go about things in not-the-best-way

but I'll mull it over in the future as to whether thats just wolf baker making an oopsie or not
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MartinGG99 wrote: Mon May 31, 2021 12:40 am The only notable "solving" I've done publicly has managed to kill someone who had the same power role and alignment as me.

If that doesn't make a mockery of my confidence in my solving then I don't know what will.
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Re: Wolfwalkers Lá a Dó (D2)

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MartinGG99 wrote: Thu Dec 28, 2023 12:32 am
MartinGG99 wrote: Wed Dec 27, 2023 8:08 pm Also his poking at me about a supposed appeal by Scotty was just....like manipulative lol
upon reflection I'm not entirely sure if that makes it wolfy by Baker

because if Baker is wolf then that might as well be willfully outing that I'm town and I don't think a wolf would risk it in circumstances where I could be seen as a decent partner to them

wolves just don't theater like that lol, and there's a sliiight chance where Baker was just being genuine but happened to go about things in not-the-best-way

but I'll mull it over in the future as to whether thats just wolf baker making an oopsie or not
are you very familiar with baker's wolf play? also theres so much supposition here and generalizations that im not sure what to make it outside like a stream of consciousness by townie MartinGG
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Scotty wrote: Wed Dec 27, 2023 1:26 pm
Stick wrote: Wed Dec 27, 2023 8:11 am is baker just omgusing scotty tho lmao. i so agree with baker that scotty assuming a pure wagon on falcon is outside the realm of possibilities is a bit of an unhinged take but i dont see the problem with the rest of those posts really
I think it’s more that Martin came into the thread today with the basic viewpoint that everyone not on that wagon was suspect. Like, to immediately believe that was a pure wagon is absolutely a strange, unsubstantiated assumption
I was on it as one of the voters and I believed that Baker was likely town based on the fact he offered to sheep -- I can dive into this more if you'd like, it wouldn't really involve meta. So then the task became figuring out if either (or both) of Stick and Wilgy was a wolfy. That's just two people, and as I said before I kinda just felt at the time if they were wolves then they were wolfing together (this view has changed since then, but its what I had at the time).

Is it really so hard to believe that I had such a viewpoint? Regardless of how substantiated or unsubstantiated you think it is?
Come again? believing someone is not wolf because they are choosing to sheep a lynch on a townie started most likely by another townie? if anything, thats best case scenario for a wolf; they can just hide behind the rest of the other voters, especially if the rest of the members in the bandwagon are town
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Re: Wolfwalkers Lá a Dó (D2)

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DarlingMonroe wrote: Thu Dec 28, 2023 2:38 am are you very familiar with baker's wolf play? also theres so much supposition here and generalizations that im not sure what to make it outside like a stream of consciousness by townie MartinGG
I'm rather familiar with Baker's town play, somewhat less so with wolf play, but in general there's been a fair bit of variety from him from game to game and he's usually passionate about playing forum mafia as far as I know. Meta's had some level of influence in reading him (it frankly can't be helped since I probably have like 10+ games with him across the years, not including games where I have hosted and had him as player) but I wouldn't say you need meta to read him any more accurately right now.
DarlingMonroe wrote: Thu Dec 28, 2023 2:38 am Come again? believing someone is not wolf because they are choosing to sheep a lynch on a townie started most likely by another townie? if anything, thats best case scenario for a wolf; they can just hide behind the rest of the other voters, especially if the rest of the members in the bandwagon are town
its more that people who normally are invested into the game will not sheep because that's generally anti-fun or counter-intuitive to their enjoyment of the game -- they will either consciously or subconsciously gravitate away from sheeping because of that

I'd imagine more-so for wolves, so long as they aren't the type to low-post/low-effort, but maybe that's just my mistaken personal theory based upon not seeing sheeping very often (esp. by wolves) in my past games

Sheeping may be more likely when someone has limited time, as is I thought might be the case for Baker, but I would argue a wolf would be much more likely to lean on the argument and fact of IRL and to make minor contributions here or there rather than to sheep someone they "trust".

Regardless of whether I'm right or wrong or downright stupid on the theory though, Baker made a few-post thing about sheeping and kinda just stopped doing that. He hasn't really engaged with me directly or Robyn (people he considered sheeping or have sheeped) as of late to collaborate or work together. Add-in the suspicions of Scotty that he has, and his handling of that by mentioning me on the side, I am suspicious of baker right now.
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MartinGG99 wrote: Mon May 31, 2021 12:40 am The only notable "solving" I've done publicly has managed to kill someone who had the same power role and alignment as me.

If that doesn't make a mockery of my confidence in my solving then I don't know what will.
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Re: Wolfwalkers Lá a Dó (D2)

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Chance I may have not worded that post well enough to communicate the whole idea.

If there's confusion/disagreement about what I said don't hesitate to angrily poke me about it.
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MartinGG99 wrote: Mon May 31, 2021 12:40 am The only notable "solving" I've done publicly has managed to kill someone who had the same power role and alignment as me.

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Re: Wolfwalkers Lá a Dó (D2)

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Master Radishes wrote: Wed Dec 27, 2023 7:16 pm I've come across two opinions from Baker I straight up disagree with (saying Stick's vote on me was good + strong reaction to Scotty's wagon analysis).

I don't know what to do with that.

Baker, post your hottest takes so I can see if I agree with any?
Your reaction to Stick's vote and to my read on it tells me you are town so thats cool. Don't take what I said about Sticks vote too seriously please :))

I also like that you described the Baker x Scotty situation as action-reaction and not really talked crap about either of us. I don't know what level of a player you are but these thoughts are much more townier than what others have presented behind their votes on me or other people.
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Re: Wolfwalkers Lá a Dó (D2)

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Scotty wrote: Wed Dec 27, 2023 7:52 pm
Master Radishes wrote: Wed Dec 27, 2023 6:45 pm This post
Stick wrote: Wed Dec 27, 2023 8:25 am [VOTE: Master Radishes] aubergine poke poke

i know you just said youre busy and that you can play tomorrow but...until then!!
was bad. She's making busywork by 'poking' someone who has openly said they aren't going to be able to play till later. What was it supposed to achieve? Nothing productive - just makes her look like she's doing something.

I'm going to go iso Stick now and find confbiasy reasons to support this ping.
In her defense, sticks are known for poking

And you were not exactly lighting up the thread with content
I didn't mean it was bad because she's poking an inactive full stop. I mean specifically that the pokee was very open about not being around just yet and gave a timeline of when to expect him to come to thread, so Stick's poke vote was useless and she's smart enough to know it would have zero effect on when I'd re-enter the thread. This makes me think Stick didn't know where to place a vote and chose an easy out then tried to dress it up as something pro town.
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Re: Wolfwalkers Lá a Dó (D2)

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Scotty wrote: Wed Dec 27, 2023 7:56 pm
Master Radishes wrote: Wed Dec 27, 2023 7:17 pm I like Scotty's vibe. Seems comfortable in the thread.

Someone tell me what makes him mafia if you think I'm wrong.
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I will believe Radishes re-entry was more on the towny side than the classical wolf entrance of "x is town, x and y fight makes no sense. lets look at z"

I am unfamiliar with most of you though so my read on the ranges can be bad. This is why I have been wanting to sheep someone for a few days. Also I had 2 tests at uni this week and one more to go on Saturday so I am busy.

I felt like robyn could be towny from their early D1 and sheeping them would be safe. I felt I am in a similar position due to my schedule.

So can someone explain what is the difference between garebare/Abi/robyn/me? FMPOV I am busy but trying my best to contribute with posts - contrary to Scotty/Martin calling me performative I actually had nothing calculated. robyn is yet to vote or push anyone and Abi is similary not taking any active participation. Garebare is a player in this game, i remember only one post from them. Are we all town and LHF? There is a good chance. Just because I sticked my head out a bit, I got 4 votes on me, makes me think we got a wolf pretending to solve the game
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frick it

[VOTE: Stick] aubergine

benefit of the doubt to baker
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Re: Wolfwalkers Lá a Dó (D2)

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MartinGG99 wrote: Thu Dec 28, 2023 6:25 am frick it

[VOTE: Stick] aubergine

benefit of the doubt to baker
think it comes down to this, after formatting my thoughts to be more comprehensible:

I don't feel like anyone is really opposing a baker chop (or at least isn't impacting the thread enough to make that clear lol)

and two

baker came back with a bit of indirect sass towards me and others
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Re: Wolfwalkers Lá a Dó (D2)

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baker wrote: Thu Dec 28, 2023 6:14 am
Scotty wrote: Wed Dec 27, 2023 7:56 pm
Master Radishes wrote: Wed Dec 27, 2023 7:17 pm I like Scotty's vibe. Seems comfortable in the thread.

Someone tell me what makes him mafia if you think I'm wrong.
@baker my leige, take it away
I will believe Radishes re-entry was more on the towny side than the classical wolf entrance of "x is town, x and y fight makes no sense. lets look at z"
I think Scotty was encouraging you to tell me why you think he's scummy, since I don't find him so.

But I do always like when people talk about me.
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Re: Wolfwalkers Lá a Dó (D2)

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Oh damn, the wagon I started is now leading. Probably means I'm wrong.
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Re: Wolfwalkers Lá a Dó (D2)

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Scotty wrote: Wed Dec 27, 2023 7:38 pm
Long Con wrote: Wed Dec 27, 2023 6:10 pm Half of ☆Abi☆'s posts are that Stick is town.
Yes but half of stick’s post are town so I think she’s on to something
Point out the posts you find towny?
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Master Radishes wrote: Thu Dec 28, 2023 7:00 am Oh damn, the wagon I started is now leading. Probably means I'm wrong.
so.....you believe at least 1 wolf in me/wilgy for what reason?
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Re: Wolfwalkers Lá a Dó (D2)

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Wait why am i dying
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Re: Wolfwalkers Lá a Dó (D2)

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DarlingMonroe wrote: Wed Dec 27, 2023 3:11 pm
baker wrote: Wed Dec 27, 2023 3:05 pm
DrWilgy wrote: Wed Dec 27, 2023 3:02 pm
Scotty wrote: Wed Dec 27, 2023 1:29 pm I’m gonna say I want to just townread BOTH Martin and stick until I see otherwise that we’re being powerwolfed.

Martin has some weird assumptions and if there’s a more *likely* wolf between the two, it’s him. But for sake of town voices, I’ll hang my pants on their flagpole
I think my worldview lines up with yours and sticks.

DM and Baker are on the scummier side of things, still relatively inactive with the exception of bakers responses to you.

Garebare, Robyn, and MR are inactive in a way that feels truly null.

Long Con and Abi are active enough and there's been nothing immediately suspect about those two.

You, Martin and Stick are active and I find I at least agree with most of what's stated from you/Stick and Martin has at least shown things I see from a townie perspective.
oh good sir please explain how we are on the scummier side of things. i really want to hear what are those things
Yeah, just like falcon was on the scummier side of things

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?? lmao the shade here seems very out of place given that you think wilgy's falcon vote was the least scummy out of the four
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Re: Wolfwalkers Lá a Dó (D2)

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DarlingMonroe wrote: Wed Dec 27, 2023 3:13 pm
Scotty wrote: Wed Dec 27, 2023 1:19 pm
DrWilgy wrote: Wed Dec 27, 2023 2:55 am Just gonna put this down here, but your crack back suspicion looks exactly the same as it did when you were wolf in timelines:
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Small sample size, but I can see it

[VOTE: DarlingMonroe] aubergine to give baker some space to cool jets
this feels either as lazy town play or bad sneak wolf move, didnt you read how literally right after that another "sample size" was brought up about me doing that as town in severance...
this post also says nothing

'this guy is either town or a wolf'
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Re: Wolfwalkers Lá a Dó (D2)

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DrWilgy wrote: Wed Dec 27, 2023 3:16 pm his comment really does nothing for you, town OR the gamestate yet you felt the need to do it?
good call out ^ i was thinking the same
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DarlingMonroe wrote: Wed Dec 27, 2023 3:20 pm
Baker, willing to consider. I feel everyone scumreads Princess A, so idk.
what's your own read on abbi though, DM?
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☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: Wed Dec 27, 2023 3:26 pm I didn't vote because the options were me or someone I thought was townier than me lol
i was about to call this townie again but - what had falcon done thus far that you thought was so townie?
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☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: Wed Dec 27, 2023 3:26 pm And I don't tie wagons
okay yeah that's true
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Re: Wolfwalkers Lá a Dó (D2)

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Master Radishes wrote: Wed Dec 27, 2023 3:44 pm
baker wrote: Wed Dec 27, 2023 3:03 pm
Stick wrote: Wed Dec 27, 2023 8:25 am [VOTE: Master Radishes] aubergine poke poke

i know you just said youre busy and that you can play tomorrow but...until then!!
this is an ok prod tbh given the gamestate
What? No it isn't. It's lazy. I've been clear about my lack of time so far and poking an inactive like me is obviously going to do nothing.
it didnt do nothing actually - cuz see baker's response to my vote on you feels potentially partnered to me. like how youd see a villager poking an inactive teammate and intuitively agree with it being a good vote even though said teammate has not actually done anything incriminating yet. tmi is a bitch.

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though unless DM tries to pivot off or unvote, ill assume there's only 1 wolf between baker and DM
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DrWilgy wrote: Wed Dec 27, 2023 5:03 pm Are we gonna talk about the no kill actually? Do we think we have another protective or do we think wolves are asleep?
im pretty sure kills are compulsive? so it had to have been a doc or a roleblock/jailkeep
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Master Radishes wrote: Wed Dec 27, 2023 6:57 pm
Stick wrote: Tue Dec 26, 2023 7:47 pm @baker @Stick @DrWilgy @MartinGG99


i hope you guys sat down and reflected on your actions overnight
Out of context (I haven't really read EoD1) this is a performative post. She later says it was lighthearted or whatever but I don't really see where the jokey bit of it is?
it was lighthearted cuz i pinged myself too xD i hate having to explain jokes now it's lame :(
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Scotty wrote: Wed Dec 27, 2023 7:52 pm
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Stick wrote: Wed Dec 27, 2023 8:25 am [VOTE: Master Radishes] aubergine poke poke

i know you just said youre busy and that you can play tomorrow but...until then!!
was bad. She's making busywork by 'poking' someone who has openly said they aren't going to be able to play till later. What was it supposed to achieve? Nothing productive - just makes her look like she's doing something.

I'm going to go iso Stick now and find confbiasy reasons to support this ping.
In her defense, sticks are known for poking

And you were not exactly lighting up the thread with content
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Re: Wolfwalkers Lá a Dó (D2)

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MartinGG99 wrote: Thu Dec 28, 2023 12:13 am
MartinGG99 wrote: Wed Dec 27, 2023 8:08 pm Edit: I have to get off around this time for IRL reasons, but didn't think I would be taking this long. So you all have this partial post. I will be back in like ~4-4.5 hours or so. Guaranteed.

I'm caught up. Going to compile my thoughts.

I think Scotty and Wilgy both got a good handle on this game, and if they somehow don't they will soon.

[VOTE: Baker] aubergine

Baker's posts d2 have not been great and he didn't really continue his sheeping attitude, which makes me lean performative for him. Also his poking at me about a supposed appeal by Scotty was just....like manipulative lol. As if he thought I wouldn't believe him as much in his read unless he tried to manipulate me on some nit-pick.

Stick has dropped a bit for me, but not significant enough that I would vote them. Edit-while-writing: Will add more to this later.

I can imagine a towny perspective from DM, doesn't feel very in-depth and kinda low-level but they've been consistently that way with their posts I think and I find that believable.

More thoughts here when I come back.
I may have lost a few thoughts. But, anyways:

What sticks out to me about stick (sorry, legal obligation to make that once and its a crime that nobody this game has yet) as of late is that their interaction with me seemed weirdly suggestive earlier but unwilling to declare anything. They were more or less saying that I was having a selective perspective or take or whatever in the quote below, but don't really say anything of it other than some light probing. No saying I'm scummy or anything like that. That doesn't occur till they get "performative wolf vibes" from me later with respect to my reaction to Scotty's "crazy" comment. If I wanted to stretch this further, it felt like something a wolf might do if they see potential opportunities to renege on a townread but don't necessarily want to just yet.
Stick wrote: Wed Dec 27, 2023 7:49 am [Snipped by martin] what if abbi is a wolf? you dont seem to consider that world here, because in w!abbi worlds wolves wouldve jumped on any counter wagon imo


Upon thorough-er reading I think Master Radishes is decently good. Mild town, though I kinda feel like he's constructing his posts a bit (see 428 , 430, and 433 and consider the timing of what he is quoting across these posts) but displaying them sorta as if they were real-time. I think its ultimately fine, as I think we're all guilty of constructing our posts from time to time as any alignment so that we can make a point, but it does worry me a bit.
nah it's more that im constantly re-evaluating than anything else. i often get sussed for 180ing on reads a lot and im aware it looks scummy but it's just how i play. ive got you as town overall but that doesnt mean i'll ignore you completely (example: ive got abbi down as town as well but am also asking her questions to clear any doubts that arise from time to time, like why she thought falcon was obv towning d1 when i dont think there was enough falcon content to substantiate this, but yknow maybe i missed something). so if something pings me ill point it out/ask clarifying questions
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baker wrote: Thu Dec 28, 2023 6:14 am So can someone explain what is the difference between garebare/Abi/robyn/me? FMPOV I am busy but trying my best to contribute with posts - contrary to Scotty/Martin calling me performative I actually had nothing calculated. robyn is yet to vote or push anyone and Abi is similary not taking any active participation. Garebare is a player in this game, i remember only one post from them. Are we all town and LHF? There is a good chance. Just because I sticked my head out a bit, I got 4 votes on me, makes me think we got a wolf pretending to solve the game
i find it really hard to see this as a genuine thought - why are you assuming you/gare/robyn/abbi are all town?? that's...such a leap to take only to insinuate an active player is a wolf. like sure, there's almost always at least one active wolf in any given game but this seems like a weird way to get to that conclusion?
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