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Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation
Shame on me for expecting some basic game sense from y'all. I can't stay up all night
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Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation
I’ll have you guys know, while I was posting that my daughter thought she’d emulate me and wash dishes. Right after I posted, she gave up with the cleaning and threw the entire stack on the ground. 




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Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation
wait so what was the final vote? 3 v 3 v 3? was the kill randomized?
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Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation
DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 1:29 pm wait so what was the final vote? 3 v 3 v 3? was the kill randomized?


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Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation
Real convenient. Read the damn thread and tell us what you would have done then genius.

Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation
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Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation
@Serhal i read your iso (posts in isolation; all of your posts) and i dont think you shot at anyone. just for future reference - its best to shoot asap, ideally a player that's a consensus scumread by everyone. it's okay if they're town - town can now focus their attention elsewhere. if you wait with your shot for too long you risk happening what just happened to you - dying before you get your shot off. and id argue that this is worse for us than if you would have shot any player regardless of what they were
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Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation
Scotty
3
21%
Voters: robyn, Serhal, RondoDimBuckle
You can all die
3
21%
Voters: robyn, Serhal, RondoDimBuckle
You can all die
When I die, I want to go peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather;
not screaming like the people in his car
not screaming like the people in his car
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Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation
RondoDimBuckle
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Voters: Porscha, leetic, MacDougall
This bunch seems all right
3
21%
Voters: Porscha, leetic, MacDougall
This bunch seems all right
When I die, I want to go peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather;
not screaming like the people in his car
not screaming like the people in his car
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Serhal
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Voters: pyxxy, Long Con, DarlingMonroe
This bunch I don’t blame for going after Serhal, except for the fact that he is the LHF of this operation, and so it’s more scummy than not.
If pyxxy is indeed a town PR, ok cool. That should self resolve…
LC is a soggy, floppy chalupa.
DM is ??? And needs sorting.
3
21%
Voters: pyxxy, Long Con, DarlingMonroe
This bunch I don’t blame for going after Serhal, except for the fact that he is the LHF of this operation, and so it’s more scummy than not.
If pyxxy is indeed a town PR, ok cool. That should self resolve…
LC is a soggy, floppy chalupa.
DM is ??? And needs sorting.
When I die, I want to go peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather;
not screaming like the people in his car
not screaming like the people in his car
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Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation
would you have me voted you instead? or rondo perhaps? or not voted at all?Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 3:09 pm Serhal
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Voters: pyxxy, Long Con, DarlingMonroe
This bunch I don’t blame for going after Serhal, except for the fact that he is the LHF of this operation, and so it’s more scummy than not.
If pyxxy is indeed a town PR, ok cool. That should self resolve…
LC is a soggy, floppy chalupa.
DM is ??? And needs sorting.
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Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation
would you have rather*DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 3:11 pmwould you have me voted you instead? or rondo perhaps? or not voted at all?Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 3:09 pm Serhal
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21%
Voters: pyxxy, Long Con, DarlingMonroe
This bunch I don’t blame for going after Serhal, except for the fact that he is the LHF of this operation, and so it’s more scummy than not.
If pyxxy is indeed a town PR, ok cool. That should self resolve…
LC is a soggy, floppy chalupa.
DM is ??? And needs sorting.
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Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation
Of my voters, Robyn is the worst looking. Rondo is just not at all towny. He hasn’t been since his first banana pie to the face. But he also was in a position of self preserve and so ehhhhhhh it’s a mixed bag.
I should not have had any votes today. That I did was big ole opportunistic bullshit. Even if you don’t believe I’m silenced, am I truly your best solve right now?
I should not have had any votes today. That I did was big ole opportunistic bullshit. Even if you don’t believe I’m silenced, am I truly your best solve right now?
When I die, I want to go peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather;
not screaming like the people in his car
not screaming like the people in his car
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Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation
Thanks.
Serhal has my permission to die nonetheless
When I die, I want to go peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather;
not screaming like the people in his car
not screaming like the people in his car
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I think rondo is a GREAT vote.DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 3:11 pmwould you have me voted you instead? or rondo perhaps? or not voted at all?Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 3:09 pm Serhal
3
21%
Voters: pyxxy, Long Con, DarlingMonroe
This bunch I don’t blame for going after Serhal, except for the fact that he is the LHF of this operation, and so it’s more scummy than not.
If pyxxy is indeed a town PR, ok cool. That should self resolve…
LC is a soggy, floppy chalupa.
DM is ??? And needs sorting.
Why WOULDN’T you vote rondo?
When I die, I want to go peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather;
not screaming like the people in his car
not screaming like the people in his car
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Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation
You’re being weirdly defensive for a read of exactly ??? On your slot
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Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation
I can safely sort DM into the scumlean pile.
Thanks
Thanks
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Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation
Long Con and Robyn, I guessScotty wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 3:14 pmI think rondo is a GREAT vote.DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 3:11 pmwould you have me voted you instead? or rondo perhaps? or not voted at all?Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 3:09 pm Serhal
3
21%
Voters: pyxxy, Long Con, DarlingMonroe
This bunch I don’t blame for going after Serhal, except for the fact that he is the LHF of this operation, and so it’s more scummy than not.
If pyxxy is indeed a town PR, ok cool. That should self resolve…
LC is a soggy, floppy chalupa.
DM is ??? And needs sorting.
Why WOULDN’T you vote rondo?
which ultimately i dont regret not voting rondo
though it does suck to lose serhal :/
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Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation
this tie thing plan was a dumb, for all we know trio of rondo/serhal/scotty are all town; we just guaranteed a civ death
Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation
@RondoDimBuckle if you vote for a town your vote counts for 0. if you vote for a mafia your vote counts for 1. did i understand that correctly?
because if so, unless im misunderstanding ur claim, this doesn't give u guaranteed cop peeks
lets say A and B are tied. you are voting A. A gets chopped and flips town. we dont have info on B's alignment, they always win the die
lets say A and B are tied. you are voting A. A gets chopped and flips mafia. we dont have info on B's alignment, it was a tie
lets say A and B are tied. you are voting A. B gets chopped and flips town. we dont have a green peek on A. if A is town, B always wins. But if A is mafia, it's a 50/50 tie between A and B
lets say A and B are tied. you are voting A. B gets chopped and flips mafia. we dont have info on A's alignment. they could be town who always loses, but they could be mafia who was in a 50/50 tie
because if so, unless im misunderstanding ur claim, this doesn't give u guaranteed cop peeks
lets say A and B are tied. you are voting A. A gets chopped and flips town. we dont have info on B's alignment, they always win the die
lets say A and B are tied. you are voting A. A gets chopped and flips mafia. we dont have info on B's alignment, it was a tie
lets say A and B are tied. you are voting A. B gets chopped and flips town. we dont have a green peek on A. if A is town, B always wins. But if A is mafia, it's a 50/50 tie between A and B
lets say A and B are tied. you are voting A. B gets chopped and flips mafia. we dont have info on A's alignment. they could be town who always loses, but they could be mafia who was in a 50/50 tie
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the only way this gives u guaranteed pseudo cop peeks is if ur vote counts for 2 when voting a wolf. does it?RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 8:47 am Since we are outing out things. my vote actually counts for nothing unless I vote for a wolf. Which is why I am thinking pyxxy is wolf for [REDACTED] reasons
But it could just be that [REDACTED] was disorganised at EOD. But no one knew I was going to finish on pyxxy, not even me
I wont say what happens when I vote a wolf but if I can get a tie it can clear the side of the wagon I am on if the other one goes over
Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation
oh wait im a mafia player i cant read
you didnt out your full claim and i missed the part where u say you need to be on the wagon yourself
alright fine, keep your secrets, i'll trust u
you didnt out your full claim and i missed the part where u say you need to be on the wagon yourself
alright fine, keep your secrets, i'll trust u
Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation
if rondo is town (which he most likely is) - he would have just transferred his green peek to another player, if we didnt bag a wolf. assuming he's telling the truth about his roleDarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 3:20 pm this tie thing plan was a dumb, for all we know trio of rondo/serhal/scotty are all town; we just guaranteed a civ death
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the original plan (from what i read) was tie rondo and scotty
that wasn't bad. if scotty is mafia scotty would have always died. if scotty is town we always lose rondo but now scotty is peeked town. so what was the problem? it was a good idea
that wasn't bad. if scotty is mafia scotty would have always died. if scotty is town we always lose rondo but now scotty is peeked town. so what was the problem? it was a good idea
Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation
i think that pyxxy and dm have some w/w equity
specifically if pyxxy is mafia, dm is always mafia
if pyxxy is mafia she doesn't need to be. she might be due to process of elimination, but could still be town
i was very confident on this a few minutes ago but i lost my train of thought about why. let me try to remember what i was thinking
specifically if pyxxy is mafia, dm is always mafia
if pyxxy is mafia she doesn't need to be. she might be due to process of elimination, but could still be town
i was very confident on this a few minutes ago but i lost my train of thought about why. let me try to remember what i was thinking
Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation
right
pyxxy could have easily been tied. there were multiple suggestions of it
serhal was town. if scotty is town, DM specifically protected pyxxy from being involved in rondo's pseudo cop peek shenanigans, and we had a tie between 3 villagers
@Scotty if you are town, im very confident that from your pov pyxxy is mafia. and if he is, dm is almost always mafia
Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation
long con isn't endgaming here if he claimed cop as a wolf. if he is alive at fx obvious reevaluate but should be trusted for now imo. therefore so should rondo
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@RondoDimBuckle do you have some mech information on Scotty now after these wagons and ties?
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Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation
"my vote actually counts for nothing unless I vote for a wolf."
This is pretty clear.
It was a terrible idea. To clear Scotty, we sacrifice the guaranteed Town that we know? Never ever a good idea.

Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation
whatever the world is, this gives me confirmation im wrong on at least one of my townreads. unless the team is exactly scotty pyxxy dm. which mechanically is still possible depending on rondo's role
unless it's that easy, i'm wrong on at least 1 townread. so that'll be hard to sniff out which one
if pyxxy is town this game is probably unwinnable. im not sure if i wanna invest too much energy trying to solve in hypotethical worlds which are realistically unwinnable
i can try for the sport of it
it would mean multiple wolves between porscha robyn mac abigail leetic. (and pyxxy dm and scotty can still fit in there)
unless it's that easy, i'm wrong on at least 1 townread. so that'll be hard to sniff out which one
if pyxxy is town this game is probably unwinnable. im not sure if i wanna invest too much energy trying to solve in hypotethical worlds which are realistically unwinnable
i can try for the sport of it
it would mean multiple wolves between porscha robyn mac abigail leetic. (and pyxxy dm and scotty can still fit in there)
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Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation
The only info we would get would be that, if Scotty was a Wolf, he would have had a 33% chance of getting eliminated. Since he didn't, we don't know anything about him.

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this doesn't produce cop peeks and i laid out why. he then added more stuff about how he doesn't wanna say what happens if he votes a wolf, and that he needs to be on the opposite wagon
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Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation
if scotty is mafia we kill mafia scotty for free
if scotty is town we transfer rondo's confirmed town status to scotty. we dont lose a confirmed town. we lose an unconfirmed player
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Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation
@Roxy thanks for hosting!
I can honestly say this'll be my only game here though, so if a mod wants to delete or ban this account that's fine. To be perfectly frank, a lot of this player base comes off as miserable jerks and didn't really inspire a lot of wanting to interact with, and this'll be my last post.
Any time I play a character with a kill ability like that I prefer to wait a night or two to try and make a more considered kill.tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 2:59 pm @Serhal i read your iso (posts in isolation; all of your posts) and i dont think you shot at anyone. just for future reference - its best to shoot asap, ideally a player that's a consensus scumread by everyone. it's okay if they're town - town can now focus their attention elsewhere. if you wait with your shot for too long you risk happening what just happened to you - dying before you get your shot off. and id argue that this is worse for us than if you would have shot any player regardless of what they were
I can honestly say this'll be my only game here though, so if a mod wants to delete or ban this account that's fine. To be perfectly frank, a lot of this player base comes off as miserable jerks and didn't really inspire a lot of wanting to interact with, and this'll be my last post.
Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation
im not sure and i dont wanna assume too much because rondo said he's hiding stuff and i dont trust him. not in the sense that he's not town but i dont trust that we have reliable mech information related to his claim. if he doesn't wanna full claim everything that's fine, but then i'm restricted to asking him if he knows people are town or not mechanically. i cant solve on my own with potentially faulty mech info about how his role works (specifically what happens when he votes a wolf)
Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation
understandable and happy holidays. ho ho ho!Serhal wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 4:02 pm @Roxy thanks for hosting!
Any time I play a character with a kill ability like that I prefer to wait a night or two to try and make a more considered kill.tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 2:59 pm @Serhal i read your iso (posts in isolation; all of your posts) and i dont think you shot at anyone. just for future reference - its best to shoot asap, ideally a player that's a consensus scumread by everyone. it's okay if they're town - town can now focus their attention elsewhere. if you wait with your shot for too long you risk happening what just happened to you - dying before you get your shot off. and id argue that this is worse for us than if you would have shot any player regardless of what they were
I can honestly say this'll be my only game here though, so if a mod wants to delete or ban this account that's fine. To be perfectly frank, a lot of this player base comes off as miserable jerks and didn't really inspire a lot of wanting to interact with, and this'll be my last post.
Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation
my suggestion for tomorrow
chop pyxxy
if mafia -> chop dm
if town -> cry
chop pyxxy
if mafia -> chop dm
if town -> cry
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Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation
my suggestion
is to keep your distance
cuz right now I'm DANGEROUS
is to keep your distance
cuz right now I'm DANGEROUS
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Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation
Haha I appreciate the candor.Serhal wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 4:02 pm @Roxy thanks for hosting!
Any time I play a character with a kill ability like that I prefer to wait a night or two to try and make a more considered kill.tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 2:59 pm @Serhal i read your iso (posts in isolation; all of your posts) and i dont think you shot at anyone. just for future reference - its best to shoot asap, ideally a player that's a consensus scumread by everyone. it's okay if they're town - town can now focus their attention elsewhere. if you wait with your shot for too long you risk happening what just happened to you - dying before you get your shot off. and id argue that this is worse for us than if you would have shot any player regardless of what they were
I can honestly say this'll be my only game here though, so if a mod wants to delete or ban this account that's fine. To be perfectly frank, a lot of this player base comes off as miserable jerks and didn't really inspire a lot of wanting to interact with, and this'll be my last post.
Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation
are u town going super saiyan to make a heroic comeback or are u openwolfing going super saiyan coz u can realistically get away with it at this pointMacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 4:16 pm my suggestion
is to keep your distance
cuz right now I'm DANGEROUS
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Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation
we've all felt like shidtutuu wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 4:17 pmare u town going super saiyan to make a heroic comeback or are u openwolfing going super saiyan coz u can realistically get away with it at this pointMacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 4:16 pm my suggestion
is to keep your distance
cuz right now I'm DANGEROUS
been treated like shid
all you motherfuckers
that wanna step up
I hope you know I'm like a chainsaw