Wolfwalkers Deireadh (ENDGAME)

[DarlingMonroe]

though unless DM tries to pivot off or unvote, ill assume there's only 1 wolf between baker and DM

[VOTE: DM] aubergine

Feeling wild

Aha, they did pivot off. called it lmao

[VOTE: Darling Monroe] aubergine

pivot off where? are we playing the same game?

[DarlingMonroe]

I think DM has shown some signs of their town range.

Guess I'm at Baker > DM but will stay in Stick for shits and giggles

youre being good at this game again, i like you

[DrWilgy]

Stick review d1

1. I’m choosing to believe falcon’s townclaim until further notice

2. Scotty is probably a villager for attempting to make reads right out of the gate

Potential tmi on Falc

This is my first game.

what's your motivation in mafia? Like what attracts you to the game or what brings you to this site or etc?

I don't feel much excitement from this, which is fine as everyone plays and treats forum mafia differently, but it gets me concerned I will understand so little of you that I won't be able to tell if you're town or not just because you could be different from me.

this felt a little too phoned in, forgor to comment on it earlier

[VOTE: MartinGG99] aubergine

phoned in? O.o

and generally yes poll votes are official vote, just vote tags help track history

it's like youre trying to show us that youre thinking about the game very hard? but in like a lowkey performative way? i could just be misreading your playstyle - sorry if that's the case xd. still early in the phase tho we got time, this isnt a strong read at all

Further support of the no Martin/Stick team. Upon review, this one comes across as pretty hedgey.

martin's made some redeeming posts and im happy to join them on [VOTE: Long Con] aubergine

flips boat on Martin

honestly, wilgy's scumgame (going off the one game ive played with them) was a lot more centered on posting busy work and, well, showing some kind of process even if it was not the most intuitive way one would solve


not to say people cant have different playstyles as scum varying from game to game, but something to note because i dont really see that kinda play from wilgy here

Second conclusion drawn from Stick that at least has depth to it is on me.

Abbi is gonna reread this from the start this time hopefully with like... the ability to retain info

No, impossible, I've tried 3 times already.

like i am probably unironically just going to townread this even tho it's the easiest post in the world to fake

weird as the meta call on me was already made. Feels extra.

Towards EoD there's some suspicion thrown at LC and Baker and then ending ultimately on Falc who had the loos rvs town read earlier.

Eh, Sticks d1 was very meh. Much of d1 was very meh, so I don't know how to quantify against that. I'll say the hedgey behavior towards Martin, the extra flashiness and statements about ending on LC without context towards LC make me feel worse about the slot than I had previously.

Martin and Stick not W/W
MR and Stick not W/W

[DarlingMonroe]

@Scotty are upset at me for saying you and baker could be wolves? xD awwe

[DrWilgy]

DM has now done two things I actually noticed that I think are a bit towny. So no, Stick, we shall not team up at this juncture. Soz.

pls share

There was this sequence:

actually no, i want this more today:

[VOTE: Darling Monroe] aubergine





@Master Radishes let's join forces and vote DM

I've paid no attention to DM's posts tbh so no opinion.

most of their posts have words that amount to nothing, pretty much

Probably why I don't consciously remember a single post of theirs.

wow, so kind individuals

actually no, i want this more today:

[VOTE: Darling Monroe] aubergine





@Master Radishes let's join forces and vote DM

why are so many of your recent votes related to bashing me?

im not even one of your 3 votes; im on baker, but i could be petty and make it 4 on you

i wont, since i think baker is scummier, but after your recent posts i think i might feel differently

actually no, i want this more today:

[VOTE: Darling Monroe] aubergine





@Master Radishes let's join forces and vote DM

I've paid no attention to DM's posts tbh so no opinion.

most of their posts have words that amount to nothing, pretty much

Probably why I don't consciously remember a single post of theirs.

not even the ones that were quoted multiple times? so much for paying attention and playing the game

I like how they roll their eyes at my post (which does come across as a bit 'wow rude' though it wasn't my intention), go bring up something else, then come back to roll their eyes even harder at me.

It felt like genuine mild annoyance at what I'd said, and now reading it in slow mo I remember scum can be genuinely annoyed too, but in the moment my initial instinct was a towny annoyance.


I don't remember what the second thing was, now.

That certainly doesn’t change the diaper for me

NO NO NO NO WAIT WAIT WAIT NOT HERE TOO

[DrWilgy]

I think DM has shown some signs of their town range.

Guess I'm at Baker > DM but will stay in Stick for shits and giggles

youre being good at this game again, i like you

Your omgus tendencies, while consistent through your alignment, doesn't fail to entertain me.

[DrWilgy]

Holy shit ow. My jaw just locked/cramped on one side and it was like super painful. Never happened before. Ow.

I need more water and less coffee.

[DarlingMonroe]

I think DM has shown some signs of their town range.

Guess I'm at Baker > DM but will stay in Stick for shits and giggles

youre being good at this game again, i like you

Your omgus tendencies, while consistent through your alignment, doesn't fail to entertain me.

better to be ridiculous and entertaining than boring and forgetful

[Scotty]

@Scotty are upset at me for saying you and baker could be wolves? xD awwe

I actually forgot you said that.

Not a bizarre take because I probably could distance like that. But this isn’t how to get me to not vote you.

[DarlingMonroe]

@Scotty are upset at me for saying you and baker could be wolves? xD awwe

I actually forgot you said that.

Not a bizarre take because I probably could distance like that. But this isn’t how to get me to not vote you.

I was just wanna know because I am town, and that's not coming across to you, it seems; so i am trying to improve

[Scotty]

@Scotty are upset at me for saying you and baker could be wolves? xD awwe

I actually forgot you said that.

Not a bizarre take because I probably could distance like that. But this isn’t how to get me to not vote you.

I was just wanna know because I am town, and that's not coming across to you, it seems; so i am trying to improve

I see you’re still voting stick though.

[DarlingMonroe]

@Scotty are upset at me for saying you and baker could be wolves? xD awwe

I actually forgot you said that.

Not a bizarre take because I probably could distance like that. But this isn’t how to get me to not vote you.

I was just wanna know because I am town, and that's not coming across to you, it seems; so i am trying to improve

I see you’re still voting stick though.

you wanna do baker?

[DrWilgy]

Stick d2 review

also, like

re "crazy"

I guess I could be crazy but honestly fuck that the opinion / not you, we have 250ish posts, several very low posting/contributing players, and I'm not consistently superb at playing mafia

right now I'm just trying, saying things, dumping whatever thoughts I have that might even be 10% relevant

contributing somehow in the hopes we all figure something out

maybe that constitutes crazy but like its not as if I can avoid being that if the circumstances promote it or whatever

ok i know i just said i had a townlean on you but this is giving performative wolf vibes again im sorry flsdfl

More hedging on the Martin alot lol

[VOTE: falcon45ca] aubergine

party at my place tonight if I'm indeed obvious villager!

I give this vote a B-

[VOTE: Long Con] aubergine i wont stop a falcon wagon tho

[VOTE: falcon45ca] aubergine

ok ill consolidate here lol

I give this vote a C-, borderline F.

Voting a wagon while hedging a town? Makes me just want to townread LC by association with this vote.

[VOTE: falcon45ca] aubergine

party at my place tonight if I'm indeed obvious villager!

[VOTE: falcon45ca] aubergine

please don't die martin

these wolves will rip me apart!!!

I give this vote a C- as well.
I don’t know baker as a player, but this screams performative, and not in the one winning any awards

[VOTE: Falc] aubergine I've missed you buddy

I give this vote a B+
Being that it was the initial vote and stayed there for the last 2 hours of the day, while Wilgy was involved and present, is not incredibly suspicious.

Gotta be honest, I came into today based on backreading comments at end of day wanting Wilgy’s head, but I don’t think his vote on that wagon is the most suspicious after looking at the votes in iso.

Baker had seemingly no reason to vote falcon based on what’s shown. It could be said Stick was just looking to ‘consolidate their vote’ which is a towny quality in binary terms, but the post voting for LC while shrugging about the falcon vote was super weird to me.

this is...a pretty ok analysis of those votes, ill say. mostly because i think your assessment of what my vote there looks reasonable and id have agreed with it if those posts werent made my me LOL

agreement with Scotty's review

Something funky with that end of day vote pile on falcon.
I’m looking at you, Martin/wilgy/stick/baker.

Not all of those are bad, but I find it hard to believe that was all town. Nothing about falcon seemed particularly suspicious to me.

My initial perception is it was a save on Abbi based on votes, but that’s if there were 3+ mafia. Abbi didn’t even save herself which is…uhhh…sure something.

Anyway 9v3 seems overpowered. Could be 9 v 2 v 1 I guess.
But I dunno what the 3p would be. SK seems almost impossible with no kill last night.

Probably operating under 10v2 with some powerful scum PRs until we see a reason to believe otherwise.

Weird implying I was part of the pile on.

10 v 2 is a 4 misyeeter
9 v 3 is a 3 misyeeter

Both theoretically within a realm of balance, the latter being slightly scum favored. Probably try to play for the first and hope?

You weren’t. You started it- I clarified in my next post.

I think you came out of that looking townier, which is annoying because I really thought I had you

okay this is a pretty townie development of thought ngl

into townie process actually seems like reasonable progression

@Stick what happened with the first point? so much for believing falcon was town then being a part of the vote to lynch them at end of day 1....

nah i only said that to see how falcon would react to it lol. i wouldve townread them if theyd just accepted that garbage read but instead they went on to explain their meta and how they do this every game which was a response i'd chalked up to NAI. my thought was: wolves would feel bound to correct someone reading them on those grounds so as to not come off as opportunistic about accepting naked townreads on them, whereas villagers generally dont actually care about these things that early in the game and ignore it/accept the read in a nonserious way. i thought their response was ultimately just nai though cuz town can point out inaccurate rationales just as well. falcon reacting to my read in the alternative way wouldve been more telling. /shrug

Checks out

After this there's a bunch of back and forth with dm that seems decently akin to my own thoughts prior to DM joining the game fully.

Thoughts: Stick looks much better D2 but a lot of the game also does. There's a few things in there that I can see coming from a townie mindset that aren't as preformatory such as the Scotty progression. Hedgey behavior towards Martin is still bad though.
The DM interactions of recent can be seen 2 ways.
1. Town spotted the same omgus behavior that DM tends to do as any alignment and reads it as scummy (easy to do I think as I'm still borderline on the slot with only slight townie pings from other solving behavior I see from DM)
2. Wolf with pressure saw that DM could be a pivotable CW and is in effort to take it.

Conclusion.

I'd put Stick at like the bottom of yellow. Above null but below town leans. Stick can be a wolf, there's some merit to it in interactions with DM, LC, and Martin. Stick can be T, there's some to merit to it in interactions with Abi, DM, Scotty. I'd not flip right now, but also wouldn't cry about it. I think other wolf reads take priority than the hedgey Stick slot.

[Master Radishes]

That certainly doesn’t change the diaper for me

I mean I wasn't trying to change your diaper. I was asked a question by someone else and I answered it.

[Scotty]

@Scotty are upset at me for saying you and baker could be wolves? xD awwe

I actually forgot you said that.

Not a bizarre take because I probably could distance like that. But this isn’t how to get me to not vote you.

I was just wanna know because I am town, and that's not coming across to you, it seems; so i am trying to improve

I see you’re still voting stick though.

you wanna do baker?

If you had a choice between baker and stick, which is more of a home run to you?

[DrWilgy]

I guess something else of note. There seems to be a lot of unoriginal ideas from Stick in spite of them having 85 posts.

I don't think it changes where I'd put them on the rainbow though. Carry on.

[Master Radishes]

Thoughts: Stick looks much better D2 but a lot of the game also does. There's a few things in there that I can see coming from a townie mindset that aren't as preformatory such as the Scotty progression. Hedgey behavior towards Martin is still bad though.

Why is Stick hedging on Martin bad? Like I'm internally hedging the fuck out of Martin because his style is one that is easy to find scummy imo.

[DrWilgy]

Thoughts: Stick looks much better D2 but a lot of the game also does. There's a few things in there that I can see coming from a townie mindset that aren't as preformatory such as the Scotty progression. Hedgey behavior towards Martin is still bad though.

Why is Stick hedging on Martin bad? Like I'm internally hedging the fuck out of Martin because his style is one that is easy to find scummy imo.

With Stick it feels more like "In keeping my options open on you" rather than I'm changing my conclusions on you. For whatever that's worth.

[Scotty]

I guess something else of note. There seems to be a lot of unoriginal ideas from Stick in spite of them having 85 posts.

I don't think it changes where I'd put them on the rainbow though. Carry on.

I think I’m just gonna sheep whatever you decide today Wilgy

Because as much as I feel like stick is town, a lot of that has to do with the involvement and not necessarily the content. It could very well be that stick is progressing through reads that aren’t wholly original as a wolf tactic to appear tryhardy. I think I’m in the same boat that I wouldn’t cry if stick were the choice today but I think there are better options at the moment with middling people that are definitely more blendy.

[DrWilgy]

Abd I guess I get it because Martin I feel like is someone I could put back on PoE and be fine with that, but I don't think that's correct as it stands.

[Master Radishes]

I don't have much to say to argue /against/ a Baker or DM yeet here.

[Scotty]

Also @baker I should note that your posts as a whole on D1 weren’t performative- it was that one post voting for falcon that seemed like a fake, perform-y justification

[Master Radishes]

Thoughts: Stick looks much better D2 but a lot of the game also does. There's a few things in there that I can see coming from a townie mindset that aren't as preformatory such as the Scotty progression. Hedgey behavior towards Martin is still bad though.

Why is Stick hedging on Martin bad? Like I'm internally hedging the fuck out of Martin because his style is one that is easy to find scummy imo.

With Stick it feels more like "In keeping my options open on you" rather than I'm changing my conclusions on you. For whatever that's worth.

Gotcha.

[DrWilgy]

I don't have much to say to argue /against/ a Baker or DM yeet here.

I'm at the point where DM has earned the "let them cook" slot.

LC and Stick have fallen out of that domain.

My preferred yeet RN is Baker for reasons I've explained previously. Also the lack of response to me in spite of voicing that feels like they are choosing to not be forthcoming at this point

[Master Radishes]

Also @baker I should note that your posts as a whole on D1 weren’t performative- it was that one post voting for falcon that seemed like a fake, perform-y justification

I felt that post (not gonna go check it now but I know which one you mean) was too over the top to be a wolf genuinely trying to be performative. It felt like a town being overdramatic for funsies to me.

Baker's reaction to your wagon analysis was the bit I could see being performative. Not saying it definitely is, but it felt like an overreaction to what was fairly standard thoughts.

[Stick]

though unless DM tries to pivot off or unvote, ill assume there's only 1 wolf between baker and DM

[VOTE: DM] aubergine

Feeling wild

Aha, they did pivot off. called it lmao

[VOTE: Darling Monroe] aubergine

pivot off where? are we playing the same game?

off baker :p

[Stick]

Spoiler: show

Stick d2 review

also, like

re "crazy"

I guess I could be crazy but honestly fuck that the opinion / not you, we have 250ish posts, several very low posting/contributing players, and I'm not consistently superb at playing mafia

right now I'm just trying, saying things, dumping whatever thoughts I have that might even be 10% relevant

contributing somehow in the hopes we all figure something out

maybe that constitutes crazy but like its not as if I can avoid being that if the circumstances promote it or whatever

ok i know i just said i had a townlean on you but this is giving performative wolf vibes again im sorry flsdfl

More hedging on the Martin alot lol

[VOTE: falcon45ca] aubergine

party at my place tonight if I'm indeed obvious villager!

I give this vote a B-

[VOTE: Long Con] aubergine i wont stop a falcon wagon tho

[VOTE: falcon45ca] aubergine

ok ill consolidate here lol

I give this vote a C-, borderline F.

Voting a wagon while hedging a town? Makes me just want to townread LC by association with this vote.

[VOTE: falcon45ca] aubergine

party at my place tonight if I'm indeed obvious villager!

[VOTE: falcon45ca] aubergine

please don't die martin

these wolves will rip me apart!!!

I give this vote a C- as well.
I don’t know baker as a player, but this screams performative, and not in the one winning any awards

[VOTE: Falc] aubergine I've missed you buddy

I give this vote a B+
Being that it was the initial vote and stayed there for the last 2 hours of the day, while Wilgy was involved and present, is not incredibly suspicious.

Gotta be honest, I came into today based on backreading comments at end of day wanting Wilgy’s head, but I don’t think his vote on that wagon is the most suspicious after looking at the votes in iso.

Baker had seemingly no reason to vote falcon based on what’s shown. It could be said Stick was just looking to ‘consolidate their vote’ which is a towny quality in binary terms, but the post voting for LC while shrugging about the falcon vote was super weird to me.

this is...a pretty ok analysis of those votes, ill say. mostly because i think your assessment of what my vote there looks reasonable and id have agreed with it if those posts werent made my me LOL

agreement with Scotty's review

Something funky with that end of day vote pile on falcon.
I’m looking at you, Martin/wilgy/stick/baker.

Not all of those are bad, but I find it hard to believe that was all town. Nothing about falcon seemed particularly suspicious to me.

My initial perception is it was a save on Abbi based on votes, but that’s if there were 3+ mafia. Abbi didn’t even save herself which is…uhhh…sure something.

Anyway 9v3 seems overpowered. Could be 9 v 2 v 1 I guess.
But I dunno what the 3p would be. SK seems almost impossible with no kill last night.

Probably operating under 10v2 with some powerful scum PRs until we see a reason to believe otherwise.

Weird implying I was part of the pile on.

10 v 2 is a 4 misyeeter
9 v 3 is a 3 misyeeter

Both theoretically within a realm of balance, the latter being slightly scum favored. Probably try to play for the first and hope?

You weren’t. You started it- I clarified in my next post.

I think you came out of that looking townier, which is annoying because I really thought I had you

okay this is a pretty townie development of thought ngl

into townie process actually seems like reasonable progression

@Stick what happened with the first point? so much for believing falcon was town then being a part of the vote to lynch them at end of day 1....

nah i only said that to see how falcon would react to it lol. i wouldve townread them if theyd just accepted that garbage read but instead they went on to explain their meta and how they do this every game which was a response i'd chalked up to NAI. my thought was: wolves would feel bound to correct someone reading them on those grounds so as to not come off as opportunistic about accepting naked townreads on them, whereas villagers generally dont actually care about these things that early in the game and ignore it/accept the read in a nonserious way. i thought their response was ultimately just nai though cuz town can point out inaccurate rationales just as well. falcon reacting to my read in the alternative way wouldve been more telling. /shrug

Checks out

After this there's a bunch of back and forth with dm that seems decently akin to my own thoughts prior to DM joining the game fully.

Thoughts: Stick looks much better D2 but a lot of the game also does. There's a few things in there that I can see coming from a townie mindset that aren't as preformatory such as the Scotty progression. Hedgey behavior towards Martin is still bad though.
The DM interactions of recent can be seen 2 ways.
1. Town spotted the same omgus behavior that DM tends to do as any alignment and reads it as scummy (easy to do I think as I'm still borderline on the slot with only slight townie pings from other solving behavior I see from DM)
2. Wolf with pressure saw that DM could be a pivotable CW and is in effort to take it.

Conclusion.

I'd put Stick at like the bottom of yellow. Above null but below town leans. Stick can be a wolf, there's some merit to it in interactions with DM, LC, and Martin. Stick can be T, there's some to merit to it in interactions with Abi, DM, Scotty. I'd not flip right now, but also wouldn't cry about it. I think other wolf reads take priority than the hedgey Stick slot.

i think this is fair and that wilgy is a villager

[Master Radishes]

Just will throw it out there to the wind that I like that Wilgy gave a review of Stick that seemed a bit lazy on the surface, but he clearly had thought about his conclusions a little bit (in his follow up post 566 and his response to me about Stick being hedgey).

Anyway, carry on.

[Stick]

Thoughts: Stick looks much better D2 but a lot of the game also does. There's a few things in there that I can see coming from a townie mindset that aren't as preformatory such as the Scotty progression. Hedgey behavior towards Martin is still bad though.

Why is Stick hedging on Martin bad? Like I'm internally hedging the fuck out of Martin because his style is one that is easy to find scummy imo.

With Stick it feels more like "In keeping my options open on you" rather than I'm changing my conclusions on you. For whatever that's worth.

definitely true, havent changed my conclusion on martin but i wouldnt call it 'keeping my options open' bc that's the wolf motivation for what im doing - id call it 'constantly re-evaluating and not blindly trusting my read from d1' (that's the village motivation for this, and i am a villager you can trust me :) )

[MartinGG99]

I didn’t see it as willfully outing you as town at all. He mentioned me appealing to your authority, which doesn’t towntell you??

oh please enlighten me as to why wolves (assuming baker wolf) would make around-the-bout and indirect comments to each other about the other being manipulated by an appeal to authority or whatever

because an appeal to authority is just meaningless to wolves and wolves can't really be manipulated since they know everything -- only way this could remotely (and only remotely at that) make sense is if he was telling a wolf buddy about a way to flip a read on someone else but if that's the case why do it publicly or even just discuss it with them on the idea of pressuring scotty lol

if you think that's w/w then that's just your sucky opinion, because you would be supposing the wolves are playing bad or pointlessly in order to probably satisfy whatever bias you have

[baker]

Also @baker I should note that your posts as a whole on D1 weren’t performative- it was that one post voting for falcon that seemed like a fake, perform-y justification

thats fair

but honestly, i didnt read a single falcon post when i was voting falcon and when i saw the flip i was laughing at how we messed up massively

[Scotty]

I didn’t see it as willfully outing you as town at all. He mentioned me appealing to your authority, which doesn’t towntell you??

oh please enlighten me as to why wolves (assuming baker wolf) would make around-the-bout and indirect comments to each other about the other being manipulated by an appeal to authority or whatever

because an appeal to authority is just meaningless to wolves and wolves can't really be manipulated since they know everything -- only way this could remotely (and only remotely at that) make sense is if he was telling a wolf buddy about a way to flip a read on someone else but if that's the case why do it publicly or even just discuss it with them on the idea of pressuring scotty lol

if you think that's w/w then that's just your sucky opinion, because you would be supposing the wolves are playing bad or pointlessly in order to probably satisfy whatever bias you have

I…don’t think this is w/w? Maybe I don’t know what we’re actually talking about

[baker]

Also @baker I should note that your posts as a whole on D1 weren’t performative- it was that one post voting for falcon that seemed like a fake, perform-y justification

I felt that post (not gonna go check it now but I know which one you mean) was too over the top to be a wolf genuinely trying to be performative. It felt like a town being overdramatic for funsies to me.

Baker's reaction to your wagon analysis was the bit I could see being performative. Not saying it definitely is, but it felt like an overreaction to what was fairly standard thoughts.

yeah i did overreact to scotty as a response to what i thought was an overreaction to the eod1 cw. while this doesn't clear scotty, it does raise the question if they were opportunistic in pushing the people from previous wagon or they are using deductive processes in favor of generating discussion for rest of us. i am not the judge of that difference check so i placed my vote there and assumed the worst since i don't know what kind of a player they are. it is up to you guys to decide if this is a legit strat for a wolf or town, i can say this would never be my approach as a wolf but feel free to burn me if you must

[Scotty]

I think the talking and progression in the past 24 hours from MR is a good look.

Time for a rainbow list

Wilgy
MR
Martin
Stick

PA
Long Con
Robyn
baker
Garebear
DM

[MartinGG99]

I didn’t see it as willfully outing you as town at all. He mentioned me appealing to your authority, which doesn’t towntell you??

oh please enlighten me as to why wolves (assuming baker wolf) would make around-the-bout and indirect comments to each other about the other being manipulated by an appeal to authority or whatever

because an appeal to authority is just meaningless to wolves and wolves can't really be manipulated since they know everything -- only way this could remotely (and only remotely at that) make sense is if he was telling a wolf buddy about a way to flip a read on someone else but if that's the case why do it publicly or even just discuss it with them on the idea of pressuring scotty lol

if you think that's w/w then that's just your sucky opinion, because you would be supposing the wolves are playing bad or pointlessly in order to probably satisfy whatever bias you have

I…don’t think this is w/w? Maybe I don’t know what we’re actually talking about

Oh.

Well I think I just misinterpreted you. Sorry I was just grouchy from waking up to the thought of someone trying to connect me to baker and completely contradict my thoughts lol.

[baker]

also sorry again for not gaming, i have school stuff -_-

feel free to chop me if you must

[DrWilgy]

Baker d1

i think i am gonna sheep chibi fami on d1

Arbitrary

When is the EoD anyway

22 minutes

fami senpai is still drinking probably.

i am a sucker for early one-tailed directions and saving my energy for later

you mentioned i am less likely to be a wolf & more likely to be a villager

ig i can sheep you instead

[VOTE: falcon45ca] aubergine

party at my place tonight if I'm indeed obvious villager!

[VOTE: falcon45ca] aubergine

please don't die martin

these wolves will rip me apart!!!

Arbitrary and overly buddy buddy

Baker's d1 was as poor as I remember. They were in and out for most of the day and not one conclusion or rhyme to their reason was provided.

Martin Baker not W/W

Oddly enough, Martin is becoming a much firmer town read as the people I see are unlikely partners to them.

[DrWilgy]

also sorry again for not gaming, i have school stuff -_-

feel free to chop me if you must

I hope your school stuff is going well for you.

[Scotty]

Also @baker I should note that your posts as a whole on D1 weren’t performative- it was that one post voting for falcon that seemed like a fake, perform-y justification

I felt that post (not gonna go check it now but I know which one you mean) was too over the top to be a wolf genuinely trying to be performative. It felt like a town being overdramatic for funsies to me.

Baker's reaction to your wagon analysis was the bit I could see being performative. Not saying it definitely is, but it felt like an overreaction to what was fairly standard thoughts.

yeah i did overreact to scotty as a response to what i thought was an overreaction to the eod1 cw. while this doesn't clear scotty, it does raise the question if they were opportunistic in pushing the people from previous wagon or they are using deductive processes in favor of generating discussion for rest of us. i am not the judge of that difference check so i placed my vote there and assumed the worst since i don't know what kind of a player they are. it is up to you guys to decide if this is a legit strat for a wolf or town, i can say this would never be my approach as a wolf but feel free to burn me if you must

We haven’t played together before, but my strength lies in finding flip associations. Since we only have a flip on a D1 elim, it’s a lot less to go on, so I turn into a bit of a cracked our conspiracy nut in these cases

Not that I think my ideas are all that cracked out, mind you.

I don’t know how you operate as a wolf, and I infer that you have experience playing as a wolf, and your reaction to me entering D2 is I think not as wolfy as it could have been if you were, say, new.

[Scotty]

I think the talking and progression in the past 24 hours from MR is a good look.

Time for a rainbow list

Wilgy
MR
Martin
Stick

PA
Long Con
Robyn
baker
Garebear
DM

Acrually, drop PA down to the LC/robyn tier because I realize I townread her for reasons of non association: with only 2 wolves, she wasn’t being saved and if there are 3, and at least 1 was on the falcon wagon (which at this point would be exactly baker)

[baker]

also sorry again for not gaming, i have school stuff -_-

feel free to chop me if you must

I hope your school stuff is going well for you.

thank you

ive passed my tests on Monday and Wednesday. I have a presentation to finish for tomorrow and a final test on Saturday so it is all going ok ig

I will play better on later days but if there is trouble reading into my alignment feel free to chop me out. i am vanilla

[Stick]

has garebare posted at all today?

[DarlingMonroe]

@Scotty are upset at me for saying you and baker could be wolves? xD awwe

I actually forgot you said that.

Not a bizarre take because I probably could distance like that. But this isn’t how to get me to not vote you.

I was just wanna know because I am town, and that's not coming across to you, it seems; so i am trying to improve

I see you’re still voting stick though.

you wanna do baker?

If you had a choice between baker and stick, which is more of a home run to you?

stick bc all of their reasonings are nonsensical and baker is enjoyable

I think the talking and progression in the past 24 hours from MR is a good look.

Time for a rainbow list

Wilgy
MR
Martin
Stick

PA
Long Con
Robyn
baker
Garebear
DM

i dont think theres ever been a time/game where you havent listed me as non-town so it is what it is

[Scotty]

@Scotty are upset at me for saying you and baker could be wolves? xD awwe

I actually forgot you said that.

Not a bizarre take because I probably could distance like that. But this isn’t how to get me to not vote you.

I was just wanna know because I am town, and that's not coming across to you, it seems; so i am trying to improve

I see you’re still voting stick though.

you wanna do baker?

If you had a choice between baker and stick, which is more of a home run to you?

stick bc all of their reasonings are nonsensical and baker is enjoyable

I think the talking and progression in the past 24 hours from MR is a good look.

Time for a rainbow list

Wilgy
MR
Martin
Stick

PA
Long Con
Robyn
baker
Garebear
DM

i dont think theres ever been a time/game where you havent listed me as non-town so it is what it is

I’m bound to be right one of these days

[DarlingMonroe]

if u say so, scotty

[baker]

Also @baker I should note that your posts as a whole on D1 weren’t performative- it was that one post voting for falcon that seemed like a fake, perform-y justification

I felt that post (not gonna go check it now but I know which one you mean) was too over the top to be a wolf genuinely trying to be performative. It felt like a town being overdramatic for funsies to me.

Baker's reaction to your wagon analysis was the bit I could see being performative. Not saying it definitely is, but it felt like an overreaction to what was fairly standard thoughts.

yeah i did overreact to scotty as a response to what i thought was an overreaction to the eod1 cw. while this doesn't clear scotty, it does raise the question if they were opportunistic in pushing the people from previous wagon or they are using deductive processes in favor of generating discussion for rest of us. i am not the judge of that difference check so i placed my vote there and assumed the worst since i don't know what kind of a player they are. it is up to you guys to decide if this is a legit strat for a wolf or town, i can say this would never be my approach as a wolf but feel free to burn me if you must

We haven’t played together before, but my strength lies in finding flip associations. Since we only have a flip on a D1 elim, it’s a lot less to go on, so I turn into a bit of a cracked our conspiracy nut in these cases

Not that I think my ideas are all that cracked out, mind you.

I don’t know how you operate as a wolf, and I infer that you have experience playing as a wolf, and your reaction to me entering D2 is I think not as wolfy as it could have been if you were, say, new.

here is a little homework for you guys on my wolf/town games



https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/th ... ia-Victory

my latest completed wolfgame


https://www.fortressoflies.com/t/splatf ... ory/6608/1

https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthre ... rd-Roles-3

my latest town games

[MartinGG99]

Baker's starting to lean into the same behaviors he had when he was mischopped d1 as a town once.

I am biased to believe it, but thought I would mention for the sake of others.

[baker]

Baker's starting to lean into the same behaviors he had when he was mischopped d1 as a town once.

I am biased to believe it, but thought I would mention for the sake of others.

i do often score 2 out of 3 wolves on every game regardless of alignment so there is -ev in chopping me

but also there is +ev in chopping me because you know there is a good chance a wolf was pushing for my chop lol

[DarlingMonroe]

baker has 1 vote rn, idk how realistic it is he gets chopped today

[baker]

this game, i still have no clear thoughts on who is what in general. i do feel like MR is town on initial readings