Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation - Game End

[MacDougall]

No silence = silence = odd night and curse = even night = Abi probably lied after all.

But why tell such a lie?

Because wolves lie. Like you.

[Long Con]

[VOTE: Long Con] aubergine

die

LOL wow you took that hard

Yeah I don't like it. Especially because it looks like I absorbed the NK over you and the other "greens" based on the feedback I received.

I can't speak about your supposed feedback. You got feedback that someone tried to kill you, but failed?

I got feedback I was targeted and now it turns out you were bsing about your role.

Why did you claim full cop instead of just the truth?

I wanted the Wolves to try to kill me.

Why would you want them to kill you?

Because I won a protection for last night by correctly stating to the Host that the Griswold house is the same one as in Hocus Pocus.

Although they were looking for Bewitched, but they accepted my answer because it was also right.

[Long Con]

I'm gonna go away for a bit. Work it out, Mac.

[MacDougall]

LOL wow you took that hard

Yeah I don't like it. Especially because it looks like I absorbed the NK over you and the other "greens" based on the feedback I received.

I can't speak about your supposed feedback. You got feedback that someone tried to kill you, but failed?

I got feedback I was targeted and now it turns out you were bsing about your role.

Why did you claim full cop instead of just the truth?

I wanted the Wolves to try to kill me.

Why would you want them to kill you?

Because I won a protection for last night by correctly stating to the Host that the Griswold house is the same one as in Hocus Pocus.

Although they were looking for Bewitched, but they accepted my answer because it was also right.

You claimed before that game was played my guy.

[robyn]

well i think i ought to beat up scotty again

[pyxxy]

well

the fun part is that Long Con wouldn’t claim winning the contest unless he actually did

but we can’t prove that was the prize :tinfoil:

although it sounds like maybe Long Con got feedback that he was attacked? unclear to me

[robyn]

mac, do u hardclaim attacked, i don’t fucking like all this fps (yes i know i fps almost every game)

[leetic]

I was blocked apparently

[pyxxy]

The first statement is that no one has voted for a baddie yet, the second is that there's a janitor (again), and the third is that someone is getting a curse. The second will appear in the phase update.

ngonna assume u got drunk and fell asleep

[pyxxy]

heh jinx

[robyn]

I was blocked apparently

give reads old man

[robyn]

okay so rondo and LC were claiming town investigative roles and neither died, neither were attacked. anyone have a clue why?

[MacDougall]

So leetic the person who discovers psuedo host controlled truths about the game was roleblocked over a claimed cop...

Neat.

[leetic]

The first statement is that no one has voted for a baddie yet, the second is that there's a janitor (again), and the third is that someone is getting a curse. The second will appear in the phase update.

Well, the third was proven true. Are there even enough people who haven't been voted for the first to be true?

[MacDougall]

okay so rondo and LC were claiming town investigative roles and neither died, neither were attacked. anyone have a clue why?

Eh we don't know that they weren't attacked. We just know they aren't dead.

Doctor or LC self protective can be an explanation for why either or both of them are alive.

I'm more curious about how Leetic got roleblocked at this stage. Isn't the town roleblocker dead? Why would scum roleblock Leetic?

[pyxxy]

okay so rondo and LC were claiming town investigative roles and neither died, neither were attacked. anyone have a clue why?

you have a way to tell who was attacked at night?

[MacDougall]

The first statement is that no one has voted for a baddie yet, the second is that there's a janitor (again), and the third is that someone is getting a curse. The second will appear in the phase update.

Well, the third was proven true. Are there even enough people who haven't been voted for the first to be true?

Doesn't your role imply that the other two statements must be false if one is true?

[leetic]

The first statement is that no one has voted for a baddie yet, the second is that there's a janitor (again), and the third is that someone is getting a curse. The second will appear in the phase update.

Well, the third was proven true. Are there even enough people who haven't been voted for the first to be true?

Doesn't your role imply that the other two statements must be false if one is true?

No, two are true and one is false

[MacDougall]

The first statement is that no one has voted for a baddie yet, the second is that there's a janitor (again), and the third is that someone is getting a curse. The second will appear in the phase update.

Well, the third was proven true. Are there even enough people who haven't been voted for the first to be true?

Doesn't your role imply that the other two statements must be false if one is true?

No, two are true and one is false

K well there's a janitor then cuz it's appeared twice and the first sentence is virtually impossible to be true unless Roxy decided to put no mafia in this game and is full on trolling.

[pyxxy]

So leetic the person who discovers psuedo host controlled truths about the game was roleblocked over a claimed cop...

Neat.

makes me think maybe double targeting isnt in this game?

or also maybe scum thought rb’ing would prevent getting the statements at all

but also. perhaps mister LC did eat the nk. can rb the oracle if you think the “cop” is supposed to die

[MacDougall]

So wait you got blocked but your ability still works?

Do you have a secondary ability?

[MacDougall]

So leetic the person who discovers psuedo host controlled truths about the game was roleblocked over a claimed cop...

Neat.

makes me think maybe double targeting isnt in this game?

or also maybe scum thought rb’ing would prevent getting the statements at all

but also. perhaps mister LC did eat the nk. can rb the oracle if you think the “cop” is supposed to die

These statements aren't important enough to roleblock. Complete waste of a mafia roleblocker. Would rather yolo it on an unclaimed towny than waste it on a role that seems to be a passive anyway.

[pyxxy]

The first statement is that no one has voted for a baddie yet, the second is that there's a janitor (again), and the third is that someone is getting a curse. The second will appear in the phase update.

Well, the third was proven true. Are there even enough people who haven't been voted for the first to be true?

Doesn't your role imply that the other two statements must be false if one is true?

No, two are true and one is false

K well there's a janitor then cuz it's appeared twice and the first sentence is virtually impossible to be true unless Roxy decided to put no mafia in this game and is full on trolling.

I could imagine an interpretation where the first sentence means _ended the day_ voting a baddie

I’m on phone and haven’t checked if this more limited interpretation is possible but also now that I write this out it seems op

but even knowing that it’s false is useful?

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

No silence = silence = odd night and curse = even night = Abi probably lied after all.

I didn't and I'll die for it I don't care

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

I hard claim that my role is exactly as claimed and if you wanna kill me for it you can

[robyn]

okay so rondo and LC were claiming town investigative roles and neither died, neither were attacked. anyone have a clue why?

you have a way to tell who was attacked at night?

i’m no scientist but the fact that mac was attacked and leetic was rb’ed and scotty was silenced means that LC/rondo were unscathed and because town vig and town roleblocker were literally chopped makes me skeptical of 2 cops, or any investigative/clearing role at all

[MacDougall]

I hard claim that my role is exactly as claimed and if you wanna kill me for it you can

Aight well the alternative is that Leetic is the silencer and tried to silence me hence why he's roleblocked because I 100% successfully blocked someone targeting me and refuse to believe anyone actively roleblocked Leetic.

[robyn]

So leetic the person who discovers psuedo host controlled truths about the game was roleblocked over a claimed cop...

Neat.

makes me think maybe double targeting isnt in this game?

or also maybe scum thought rb’ing would prevent getting the statements at all

but also. perhaps mister LC did eat the nk. can rb the oracle if you think the “cop” is supposed to die

LC would’ve been informed if mac was

[MacDougall]

The first statement is that no one has voted for a baddie yet, the second is that there's a janitor (again), and the third is that someone is getting a curse. The second will appear in the phase update.

Well, the third was proven true. Are there even enough people who haven't been voted for the first to be true?

Doesn't your role imply that the other two statements must be false if one is true?

No, two are true and one is false

K well there's a janitor then cuz it's appeared twice and the first sentence is virtually impossible to be true unless Roxy decided to put no mafia in this game and is full on trolling.

I could imagine an interpretation where the first sentence means _ended the day_ voting a baddie

I’m on phone and haven’t checked if this more limited interpretation is possible but also now that I write this out it seems op

but even knowing that it’s false is useful?

Probably worth confirming with the host what the intent is

[leetic]

I hard claim that my role is exactly as claimed and if you wanna kill me for it you can

Aight well the alternative is that Leetic is the silencer and tried to silence me hence why he's roleblocked because I 100% successfully blocked someone targeting me and refuse to believe anyone actively roleblocked Leetic.

My role is confirmable by the mod posts, I would be CC'd by someone if I was lying

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

I hard claim that my role is exactly as claimed and if you wanna kill me for it you can

Aight well the alternative is that Leetic is the silencer and tried to silence me hence why he's roleblocked because I 100% successfully blocked someone targeting me and refuse to believe anyone actively roleblocked Leetic.

Possible and indeed maybe probable but I targeted tutuu and my feedback heavily implies someone absorbed my block and a silence

Meaning both exist in the game

I believe it was Scotty and his message asking me to target someone tonight was to verify my role

Is there a reason to suspect this is impossible?

[MacDougall]

So leetic the person who discovers psuedo host controlled truths about the game was roleblocked over a claimed cop...

Neat.

makes me think maybe double targeting isnt in this game?

or also maybe scum thought rb’ing would prevent getting the statements at all

but also. perhaps mister LC did eat the nk. can rb the oracle if you think the “cop” is supposed to die

LC would’ve been informed if mac was

huh?

[leetic]

The first statement is that no one has voted for a baddie yet, the second is that there's a janitor (again), and the third is that someone is getting a curse. The second will appear in the phase update.

Well, the third was proven true. Are there even enough people who haven't been voted for the first to be true?

Doesn't your role imply that the other two statements must be false if one is true?

No, two are true and one is false

K well there's a janitor then cuz it's appeared twice and the first sentence is virtually impossible to be true unless Roxy decided to put no mafia in this game and is full on trolling.

We know from my previous statements that there has to be two or three mafia

[MacDougall]

I hard claim that my role is exactly as claimed and if you wanna kill me for it you can

Aight well the alternative is that Leetic is the silencer and tried to silence me hence why he's roleblocked because I 100% successfully blocked someone targeting me and refuse to believe anyone actively roleblocked Leetic.

Possible and indeed maybe probable but I targeted tutuu and my feedback heavily implies someone absorbed my block and a silence

Meaning both exist in the game

I believe it was Scotty and his message asking me to target someone tonight was to verify my role

Is there a reason to suspect this is impossible?

Yeh so it seems Scotty is a lightning rod but what do you mean your feedback implies "and a silence"?

The host confirmed nobody is silent.

[robyn]

So leetic the person who discovers psuedo host controlled truths about the game was roleblocked over a claimed cop...

Neat.

makes me think maybe double targeting isnt in this game?

or also maybe scum thought rb’ing would prevent getting the statements at all

but also. perhaps mister LC did eat the nk. can rb the oracle if you think the “cop” is supposed to die

LC would’ve been informed if mac was

huh?

you said you were targeted for the kill and lc was confused

[MacDougall]

The first statement is that no one has voted for a baddie yet, the second is that there's a janitor (again), and the third is that someone is getting a curse. The second will appear in the phase update.

Well, the third was proven true. Are there even enough people who haven't been voted for the first to be true?

Doesn't your role imply that the other two statements must be false if one is true?

No, two are true and one is false

K well there's a janitor then cuz it's appeared twice and the first sentence is virtually impossible to be true unless Roxy decided to put no mafia in this game and is full on trolling.

We know from my previous statements that there has to be two or three mafia

If you can clarify whether it means has ever been voted or was being voted at eod that'd be nice.

[robyn]

confused that indicates he wasn’t targeted* and lc is the person to hard claim if he was targeted for the kill and protected

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

I hard claim that my role is exactly as claimed and if you wanna kill me for it you can

Aight well the alternative is that Leetic is the silencer and tried to silence me hence why he's roleblocked because I 100% successfully blocked someone targeting me and refuse to believe anyone actively roleblocked Leetic.

Possible and indeed maybe probable but I targeted tutuu and my feedback heavily implies someone absorbed my block and a silence

Meaning both exist in the game

I believe it was Scotty and his message asking me to target someone tonight was to verify my role

Is there a reason to suspect this is impossible?

Yeh so it seems Scotty is a lightning rod but what do you mean your feedback implies "and a silence"?

The host confirmed nobody is silent.

Wording is ambiguous but implies that my role worked "kind of" which to me implied it hit someone who was silenced though I suppose if Scotty just ate it maybe it implies it just didn't hit my original target?

I guess.

[tutuu]

Hello sisters

[leetic]

The first statement is that no one has voted for a baddie yet, the second is that there's a janitor (again), and the third is that someone is getting a curse. The second will appear in the phase update.

Well, the third was proven true. Are there even enough people who haven't been voted for the first to be true?

Doesn't your role imply that the other two statements must be false if one is true?

No, two are true and one is false

K well there's a janitor then cuz it's appeared twice and the first sentence is virtually impossible to be true unless Roxy decided to put no mafia in this game and is full on trolling.

We know from my previous statements that there has to be two or three mafia

If you can clarify whether it means has ever been voted or was being voted at eod that'd be nice.

It used the word "yet" and had no mention of EoD, so take that as you will

[MacDougall]

So leetic the person who discovers psuedo host controlled truths about the game was roleblocked over a claimed cop...

Neat.

makes me think maybe double targeting isnt in this game?

or also maybe scum thought rb’ing would prevent getting the statements at all

but also. perhaps mister LC did eat the nk. can rb the oracle if you think the “cop” is supposed to die

LC would’ve been informed if mac was

huh?

you said you were targeted for the kill and lc was confused

No I said I was targeted. And how does that equal LC wouldn't been informed if Mac was?

My role is specifically to reflexively roleblock. He said he had a single use protection. They are not the same mechanic.

[Long Con]

Yeah I don't like it. Especially because it looks like I absorbed the NK over you and the other "greens" based on the feedback I received.

I can't speak about your supposed feedback. You got feedback that someone tried to kill you, but failed?

I got feedback I was targeted and now it turns out you were bsing about your role.

Why did you claim full cop instead of just the truth?

I wanted the Wolves to try to kill me.

Why would you want them to kill you?

Because I won a protection for last night by correctly stating to the Host that the Griswold house is the same one as in Hocus Pocus.

Although they were looking for Bewitched, but they accepted my answer because it was also right.

You claimed before that game was played my guy.

That's not relevant? I claimed what I needed to to save Rondo. "Clark Griswold" and "I checked Rondo".

[MacDougall]

confused that indicates he wasn’t targeted* and lc is the person to hard claim if he was targeted for the kill and protected

LC was probably targeted I was just annoyed by the FPS. It seems more likely that Leetic targeted me tbh.

[Long Con]

although it sounds like maybe Long Con got feedback that he was attacked? unclear to me

No, that's not true. Mac is the one who says he got attacked, and that he got feedback telling him so.

[MacDougall]

I can't speak about your supposed feedback. You got feedback that someone tried to kill you, but failed?

I got feedback I was targeted and now it turns out you were bsing about your role.

Why did you claim full cop instead of just the truth?

I wanted the Wolves to try to kill me.

Why would you want them to kill you?

Because I won a protection for last night by correctly stating to the Host that the Griswold house is the same one as in Hocus Pocus.

Although they were looking for Bewitched, but they accepted my answer because it was also right.

You claimed before that game was played my guy.

That's not relevant? I claimed what I needed to to save Rondo. "Clark Griswold" and "I checked Rondo".

Cmon man its clearly relevant. You hard claimed cop before you had the means to eat the NK so to say you did it in order to do so is a blatant falsity.

[Long Con]

I can't recall what FPS is.

[MacDougall]

although it sounds like maybe Long Con got feedback that he was attacked? unclear to me

No, that's not true. Mac is the one who says he got attacked, and that he got feedback telling him so.

Only ever said I was targeted.

[MacDougall]

I can't recall what FPS is.

fancy play syndrome... aka "being Rondo"

[MacDougall]

Leetic has a passive role that I doubt wolves would roleblock.

I have a reflexive roleblocker.

Leetic was roleblocked.

Nobody was silenced (host confirmed no less).

...

Leetic probably targeted me with silence.

Therefore Leetic is unclaimed silencer who likes silencing townies and is mafia.

[pyxxy]

although it sounds like maybe Long Con got feedback that he was attacked? unclear to me

No, that's not true. Mac is the one who says he got attacked, and that he got feedback telling him so.

ty for clarifying, so it was just a single protect but you don’t actually know if it saved ya

and also mac is reflex rb so he doesn’t actually know if he was attacked either afaik