Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation - Game End

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Mac promise me you'll neve ever lie about the next question I ask you?

[pyxxy]

I think you’re in a me h rabbit hole that isn’t right mac

but leetic isn’t really being the leetic that I’m familiar with

was gonna switch to tutuu but now ?

maybe I just go enjoy my day

[Long Con]

Mac promise me you'll neve ever lie about the next question I ask you?

Can he lie to this question?

[leetic]

Leetic take a breath and come back when you're brain isn't being flooded with adrenaline.

MacDougall take a breath and come back when your (not you are) brain isn't being flooded with alcohol.

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Mac promise me you'll neve ever lie about the next question I ask you?

Can he lie to this question?

I dunno that's tricky

[MacDougall]

is the acronym CFTWR?

What

caught for the wrong reasons

LOL I was proud when I got it as "Can't Fucking Tell Who's Right".

I was targeted and successfully roleblocked someone.

Silence was prevented as per host.

Leetic was roleblocked.

I think at least exploring this was a reasonable path for me to take no? I can't be expected going in to account for every piece of information Leetic has stated in his defense.

I think the omgus and vitriol hurled back at me is of the unreasonable amount given this.

[pyxxy]

is the acronym CFTWR?

What

caught for the wrong reasons

He does seem overly big mad about this.

actually and I’m not kidding he is coming across as very unmad to me and that’s what I find sus

[Long Con]

I don't comprehend how you could think I've arrived at this station on the train of thought as mafia. I'm blatantly town with confirmation I was blocked. That should be supremely obvious even if my logic isn't optimal.

I'm the one with confirmation I was blocked. The hell are you even saying?

Honestly, I'm confused on this one too. Mac is the guy with confirmation that HE blocked SOMEONE. Not that he was blocked. LEetic is the one with confirmation that he was blocked.

[MacDougall]

Leetic take a breath and come back when you're brain isn't being flooded with adrenaline.

MacDougall take a breath and come back when your (not you are) brain isn't being flooded with alcohol.

That's quite rude.

[tutuu]

I think you’re in a me h rabbit hole that isn’t right mac

but leetic isn’t really being the leetic that I’m familiar with

was gonna switch to tutuu but now ?

maybe I just go enjoy my day

Hedgy wolf

[VOTE: Pyxxy] aubergine

Perish

[Long Con]

is the acronym CFTWR?

What

caught for the wrong reasons

He does seem overly big mad about this.

actually and I’m not kidding he is coming across as very unmad to me and that’s what I find sus

Leetic's head is going to explode soon with this awesomeness flowing.

[robyn]

Leetic take a breath and come back when you're brain isn't being flooded with adrenaline.

MacDougall take a breath and come back when your (not you are) brain isn't being flooded with alcohol.

what the fuck

[MacDougall]

I don't comprehend how you could think I've arrived at this station on the train of thought as mafia. I'm blatantly town with confirmation I was blocked. That should be supremely obvious even if my logic isn't optimal.

I'm the one with confirmation I was blocked. The hell are you even saying?

Honestly, I'm confused on this one too. Mac is the guy with confirmation that HE blocked SOMEONE. Not that he was blocked. LEetic is the one with confirmation that he was blocked.

Confirmation I blocked. I simply mis-spoke. How confusing LC. You've caught me in a typographical error. I shall never live it down.

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Leetic take a breath and come back when you're brain isn't being flooded with adrenaline.

MacDougall take a breath and come back when your (not you are) brain isn't being flooded with alcohol.

Well this was unnecessary

[leetic]

Leetic take a breath and come back when you're brain isn't being flooded with adrenaline.

MacDougall take a breath and come back when your (not you are) brain isn't being flooded with alcohol.

That's quite rude.

Tone argument

[pyxxy]

I mean

why would scum openly claim a rb if town rb is dead and they targeted mac

where’s scotty with singing mech knowledge

[MacDougall]

Mac promise me you'll neve ever lie about the next question I ask you?

Sure

[Long Con]

is the acronym CFTWR?

What

caught for the wrong reasons

LOL I was proud when I got it as "Can't Fucking Tell Who's Right".

I was targeted and successfully roleblocked someone.

Silence was prevented as per host.

Leetic was roleblocked.

I think at least exploring this was a reasonable path for me to take no? I can't be expected going in to account for every piece of information Leetic has stated in his defense.

I think the omgus and vitriol hurled back at me is of the unreasonable amount given this.

I don't think that your reflexive roleblock would extend to powers not used on you. As in, the silence would be blocked, but the Oracle wouldn't.

[MacDougall]

Leetic take a breath and come back when you're brain isn't being flooded with adrenaline.

MacDougall take a breath and come back when your (not you are) brain isn't being flooded with alcohol.

That's quite rude.

Tone argument

Nah you're overreacting. I was just suggesting you take a moment to chill and you called me drunk lol. You really do need to chill.

[pyxxy]

I think you’re in a me h rabbit hole that isn’t right mac

but leetic isn’t really being the leetic that I’m familiar with

was gonna switch to tutuu but now ?

maybe I just go enjoy my day

Hedgy wolf

[VOTE: Pyxxy] aubergine

Perish

opportunistic chance to try and move thread focus off leetic and also gain townie points for disfusing a “TvT” fight

use more than 5 words next time

[Long Con]

I don't comprehend how you could think I've arrived at this station on the train of thought as mafia. I'm blatantly town with confirmation I was blocked. That should be supremely obvious even if my logic isn't optimal.

I'm the one with confirmation I was blocked. The hell are you even saying?

Honestly, I'm confused on this one too. Mac is the guy with confirmation that HE blocked SOMEONE. Not that he was blocked. LEetic is the one with confirmation that he was blocked.

Confirmation I blocked. I simply mis-spoke. How confusing LC. You've caught me in a typographical error. I shall never live it down.

Don't treat me like I'm up your ass about it. You're the one who mis-typed, that's fine, just tell me.

[leetic]

My power failing is, at the very least, confirmed. How could that happen to me as a wolf when the town blocker is dead and my ability doesn't target anyone? Meanwhile, Mac could roleblock people regardless of whether he's town or not

[MacDougall]

is the acronym CFTWR?

What

caught for the wrong reasons

LOL I was proud when I got it as "Can't Fucking Tell Who's Right".

I was targeted and successfully roleblocked someone.

Silence was prevented as per host.

Leetic was roleblocked.

I think at least exploring this was a reasonable path for me to take no? I can't be expected going in to account for every piece of information Leetic has stated in his defense.

I think the omgus and vitriol hurled back at me is of the unreasonable amount given this.

I don't think that your reflexive roleblock would extend to powers not used on you. As in, the silence would be blocked, but the Oracle wouldn't.

Surely this whole idea that Oracle was roleblocked falls apart at the part where nobody would prioritise roleblocking an Oracle?

Like take all the silence and Mac part away. Doesn't it make more sense he's just lying about being roleblocked to cover for the fact he lied about the role in the first place?

[leetic]

Leetic take a breath and come back when you're brain isn't being flooded with adrenaline.

MacDougall take a breath and come back when your (not you are) brain isn't being flooded with alcohol.

That's quite rude.

Tone argument

Nah you're overreacting. I was just suggesting you take a moment to chill and you called me drunk lol. You really do need to chill.

Maybe you'd realize how bogus this case is if you could think straight. Have you even read the SoD post? You've never answered as such

[MacDougall]

I don't comprehend how you could think I've arrived at this station on the train of thought as mafia. I'm blatantly town with confirmation I was blocked. That should be supremely obvious even if my logic isn't optimal.

I'm the one with confirmation I was blocked. The hell are you even saying?

Honestly, I'm confused on this one too. Mac is the guy with confirmation that HE blocked SOMEONE. Not that he was blocked. LEetic is the one with confirmation that he was blocked.

Confirmation I blocked. I simply mis-spoke. How confusing LC. You've caught me in a typographical error. I shall never live it down.

Don't treat me like I'm up your ass about it. You're the one who mis-typed, that's fine, just tell me.

Saying you're confused when it's easily explained as a typo felt like a mild accusation to me.

[MacDougall]

Leetic take a breath and come back when you're brain isn't being flooded with adrenaline.

MacDougall take a breath and come back when your (not you are) brain isn't being flooded with alcohol.

That's quite rude.

Tone argument

Nah you're overreacting. I was just suggesting you take a moment to chill and you called me drunk lol. You really do need to chill.

Maybe you'd realize how bogus this case is if you could think straight. Have you even read the SoD post? You've never answered as such

Maybe it's best I just leave for a bit. I don't want to cause any problems.

[Scotty]

Scotty absorbed the hit from whoever Abi targeted. Scotty targeted Abi in order to do this.

Sing "Frosty" if I'm right.

Sing "Deck The Halls" if I'm almost right but not quite.

Sing "O Christmas Tree" if I'm way off.

FROSTY THE SNOWMAN WAS A JOLLY HAPPY SOUL

DON WE NOW OUR GAY APPAREL, FA LA LA LA LA, LA LA LA LA

[leetic]

is the acronym CFTWR?

What

caught for the wrong reasons

LOL I was proud when I got it as "Can't Fucking Tell Who's Right".

I was targeted and successfully roleblocked someone.

Silence was prevented as per host.

Leetic was roleblocked.

I think at least exploring this was a reasonable path for me to take no? I can't be expected going in to account for every piece of information Leetic has stated in his defense.

I think the omgus and vitriol hurled back at me is of the unreasonable amount given this.

I don't think that your reflexive roleblock would extend to powers not used on you. As in, the silence would be blocked, but the Oracle wouldn't.

Surely this whole idea that Oracle was roleblocked falls apart at the part where nobody would prioritise roleblocking an Oracle?

Like take all the silence and Mac part away. Doesn't it make more sense he's just lying about being roleblocked to cover for the fact he lied about the role in the first place?

I don't know. If you can use the fact that the Oracle was roleblocked to try to mislynch the Oracle, maybe you would roleblock the Oracle as a wolf? Furthermore, all this is WIFOM and does not even remotely counter the hard mechanical evidence on my side

[robyn]

@Scotty just post normally today and lose ur vote

[MacDougall]

Francis heard "1 player was found to be town".

Scotty has been silenced they cannot post or vote.

falcon was killed.

Stuff was switched but had zero bearing.

Several missed the deadline.

Deadline holiday's fault.

sig was: Russ Griswold blocker - block a player nightly, you are town.

@leetic fyi LC has redacted his claim as having a lie detector check on Rondo not an actual green check so I'm not sure the host would frame a truth as "1 player was found to be town" in that scenario?

[leetic]

With 11 players alive, worst case scenario it's 8-3 and best case it's 9-2. It's probably safe to assume we have only two mislynches to play around with.

[leetic]

With 11 players alive, worst case scenario it's 8-3 and best case it's 9-2. It's probably safe to assume we have only two mislynches to play around with.

Although this ignores potential ITPs, but whatever. A hostile ITP at the very least seems unlikely at this point

[MacDougall]

What

caught for the wrong reasons

LOL I was proud when I got it as "Can't Fucking Tell Who's Right".

I was targeted and successfully roleblocked someone.

Silence was prevented as per host.

Leetic was roleblocked.

I think at least exploring this was a reasonable path for me to take no? I can't be expected going in to account for every piece of information Leetic has stated in his defense.

I think the omgus and vitriol hurled back at me is of the unreasonable amount given this.

I don't think that your reflexive roleblock would extend to powers not used on you. As in, the silence would be blocked, but the Oracle wouldn't.

Surely this whole idea that Oracle was roleblocked falls apart at the part where nobody would prioritise roleblocking an Oracle?

Like take all the silence and Mac part away. Doesn't it make more sense he's just lying about being roleblocked to cover for the fact he lied about the role in the first place?

I don't know. If you can use the fact that the Oracle was roleblocked to try to mislynch the Oracle, maybe you would roleblock the Oracle as a wolf? Furthermore, all this is WIFOM and does not even remotely counter the hard mechanical evidence on my side

Just for the record as an aside are you capable of withstanding accusations in a mafia game without resorting to vitriol and/or spark and/or belittling? Cuz if the answer is no I'll just stop doing it cuz I value my emotional state over the outcome of a mafia game.

Just want to point out you've been hostile and rude to me all game long and I've largely handled it with good faith but ... I can only exercise grace to a point.

[MacDougall]

*snark

[leetic]

Francis heard "1 player was found to be town".

Scotty has been silenced they cannot post or vote.

falcon was killed.

Stuff was switched but had zero bearing.

Several missed the deadline.

Deadline holiday's fault.

sig was: Russ Griswold blocker - block a player nightly, you are town.

@leetic fyi LC has redacted his claim as having a lie detector check on Rondo not an actual green check so I'm not sure the host would frame a truth as "1 player was found to be town" in that scenario?

If LC was telling the truth, the lie detector check effectively confirms RDB as town anyway. I'd consider it confirmation but I don't know what the hosts would think

[Long Con]

is the acronym CFTWR?

What

caught for the wrong reasons

LOL I was proud when I got it as "Can't Fucking Tell Who's Right".

I was targeted and successfully roleblocked someone.

Silence was prevented as per host.

Leetic was roleblocked.

I think at least exploring this was a reasonable path for me to take no? I can't be expected going in to account for every piece of information Leetic has stated in his defense.

I think the omgus and vitriol hurled back at me is of the unreasonable amount given this.

I don't think that your reflexive roleblock would extend to powers not used on you. As in, the silence would be blocked, but the Oracle wouldn't.

Surely this whole idea that Oracle was roleblocked falls apart at the part where nobody would prioritise roleblocking an Oracle?

Like take all the silence and Mac part away. Doesn't it make more sense he's just lying about being roleblocked to cover for the fact he lied about the role in the first place?

That is a possibility, but the Oracle SEEMS to have been blocked today. And if "the real Oracle" is a Town role, then they'd have called Leetic out long ago, and certainly today. I don't think he's lying about the role UNLESS it is just that is teammate is the role (and it would follow that THEY were blocked).

BUT

The town roleblocker is dead. So it's likely that a Wolf blocked the Oracle, evidenced in the Host post.

That is extremely unlikely for a Wolf to choose. So my best theory is that the busdriver messed with the Wolf blocker.

WHICH MEANS that the busdriver should get their ass out here and let us know who the damn wolf is that they messed with.

But that hasn't happened. No, wait. Scotty is the busdriver. That fits with his trickle of info so far. Scotty busdrove me on N0, and I never targeted you, Mac? But I was still blocked.

I wish I had a good conclusion, but these are relevant thoughts anyway.

[Long Con]

Scotty absorbed the hit from whoever Abi targeted. Scotty targeted Abi in order to do this.

Sing "Frosty" if I'm right.

Sing "Deck The Halls" if I'm almost right but not quite.

Sing "O Christmas Tree" if I'm way off.

FROSTY THE SNOWMAN WAS A JOLLY HAPPY SOUL

DON WE NOW OUR GAY APPAREL, FA LA LA LA LA, LA LA LA LA

Scotty is a busdriver.

[leetic]

caught for the wrong reasons

LOL I was proud when I got it as "Can't Fucking Tell Who's Right".

I was targeted and successfully roleblocked someone.

Silence was prevented as per host.

Leetic was roleblocked.

I think at least exploring this was a reasonable path for me to take no? I can't be expected going in to account for every piece of information Leetic has stated in his defense.

I think the omgus and vitriol hurled back at me is of the unreasonable amount given this.

I don't think that your reflexive roleblock would extend to powers not used on you. As in, the silence would be blocked, but the Oracle wouldn't.

Surely this whole idea that Oracle was roleblocked falls apart at the part where nobody would prioritise roleblocking an Oracle?

Like take all the silence and Mac part away. Doesn't it make more sense he's just lying about being roleblocked to cover for the fact he lied about the role in the first place?

I don't know. If you can use the fact that the Oracle was roleblocked to try to mislynch the Oracle, maybe you would roleblock the Oracle as a wolf? Furthermore, all this is WIFOM and does not even remotely counter the hard mechanical evidence on my side

Just for the record as an aside are you capable of withstanding accusations in a mafia game without resorting to vitriol and/or spark and/or belittling? Cuz if the answer is no I'll just stop doing it cuz I value my emotional state over the outcome of a mafia game.

Just want to point out you've been hostile and rude to me all game long and I've largely handled it with good faith but ... I can only exercise grace to a point.

If you think blatant bad-faith misinterpretations of my arguments are "nice", then go ahead. I at least was responding to things that you were actually saying

[MacDougall]

Scotty's role appears to be "target someone and have them target you". That doesn't preclude there from being a mafia (or town) equivalent "target someone and have them target someone else" type role.

[Scotty]

Stuff got switched around eh.

That's weird.

LC did you get a check?

I know everything changes
Yeah, it's strange how time marches on
Maybe there'll be some time in the future
Oh, tell me I'm not wrong

[Long Con]

I don't comprehend how you could think I've arrived at this station on the train of thought as mafia. I'm blatantly town with confirmation I was blocked. That should be supremely obvious even if my logic isn't optimal.

I'm the one with confirmation I was blocked. The hell are you even saying?

Honestly, I'm confused on this one too. Mac is the guy with confirmation that HE blocked SOMEONE. Not that he was blocked. LEetic is the one with confirmation that he was blocked.

Confirmation I blocked. I simply mis-spoke. How confusing LC. You've caught me in a typographical error. I shall never live it down.

Don't treat me like I'm up your ass about it. You're the one who mis-typed, that's fine, just tell me.

Saying you're confused when it's easily explained as a typo felt like a mild accusation to me.

Hey... I love you, man.

[tutuu]

I think you’re in a me h rabbit hole that isn’t right mac

but leetic isn’t really being the leetic that I’m familiar with

was gonna switch to tutuu but now ?

maybe I just go enjoy my day

Hedgy wolf

[VOTE: Pyxxy] aubergine

Perish

opportunistic chance to try and move thread focus off leetic and also gain townie points for disfusing a “TvT” fight

use more than 5 words next time

[MacDougall]

LOL I was proud when I got it as "Can't Fucking Tell Who's Right".

I was targeted and successfully roleblocked someone.

Silence was prevented as per host.

Leetic was roleblocked.

I think at least exploring this was a reasonable path for me to take no? I can't be expected going in to account for every piece of information Leetic has stated in his defense.

I think the omgus and vitriol hurled back at me is of the unreasonable amount given this.

I don't think that your reflexive roleblock would extend to powers not used on you. As in, the silence would be blocked, but the Oracle wouldn't.

Surely this whole idea that Oracle was roleblocked falls apart at the part where nobody would prioritise roleblocking an Oracle?

Like take all the silence and Mac part away. Doesn't it make more sense he's just lying about being roleblocked to cover for the fact he lied about the role in the first place?

I don't know. If you can use the fact that the Oracle was roleblocked to try to mislynch the Oracle, maybe you would roleblock the Oracle as a wolf? Furthermore, all this is WIFOM and does not even remotely counter the hard mechanical evidence on my side

Just for the record as an aside are you capable of withstanding accusations in a mafia game without resorting to vitriol and/or spark and/or belittling? Cuz if the answer is no I'll just stop doing it cuz I value my emotional state over the outcome of a mafia game.

Just want to point out you've been hostile and rude to me all game long and I've largely handled it with good faith but ... I can only exercise grace to a point.

If you think blatant bad-faith misinterpretations of my arguments are "nice", then go ahead. I at least was responding to things that you were actually saying

I didn't say nice but also your calling me lame and shit came well beforehand.

I'm literally over it. Like I'm just gonna stop talking to you because your bothering me.

[Scotty]

Hey @☆Princess Abigail☆ make sure you target someone tonite, pretty please??? It’s important

I did

God rest ye merry gentlemen
Let nothing you dismay

[MacDougall]

Stuff got switched around eh.

That's weird.

LC did you get a check?

I know everything changes
Yeah, it's strange how time marches on
Maybe there'll be some time in the future
Oh, tell me I'm not wrong

Whichever host invented post curses in the first place needs to be time paradoxed

[tutuu]

if mac and lc are both town i dont get what happened to the nk unless scotty busdrove it around

if mac/lc/rondo/scotty are all 4 town i dont think mafia purposefully targets mac for the kill

[leetic]

What

caught for the wrong reasons

LOL I was proud when I got it as "Can't Fucking Tell Who's Right".

I was targeted and successfully roleblocked someone.

Silence was prevented as per host.

Leetic was roleblocked.

I think at least exploring this was a reasonable path for me to take no? I can't be expected going in to account for every piece of information Leetic has stated in his defense.

I think the omgus and vitriol hurled back at me is of the unreasonable amount given this.

I don't think that your reflexive roleblock would extend to powers not used on you. As in, the silence would be blocked, but the Oracle wouldn't.

Surely this whole idea that Oracle was roleblocked falls apart at the part where nobody would prioritise roleblocking an Oracle?

Like take all the silence and Mac part away. Doesn't it make more sense he's just lying about being roleblocked to cover for the fact he lied about the role in the first place?

That is a possibility, but the Oracle SEEMS to have been blocked today. And if "the real Oracle" is a Town role, then they'd have called Leetic out long ago, and certainly today. I don't think he's lying about the role UNLESS it is just that is teammate is the role (and it would follow that THEY were blocked).

BUT

The town roleblocker is dead. So it's likely that a Wolf blocked the Oracle, evidenced in the Host post.

That is extremely unlikely for a Wolf to choose. So my best theory is that the busdriver messed with the Wolf blocker.

WHICH MEANS that the busdriver should get their ass out here and let us know who the damn wolf is that they messed with.

But that hasn't happened. No, wait. Scotty is the busdriver. That fits with his trickle of info so far. Scotty busdrove me on N0, and I never targeted you, Mac? But I was still blocked.

I wish I had a good conclusion, but these are relevant thoughts anyway.

That makes sense actually. If Abby's claim is real, she probably targeted me (or the real post restrictor did so to make it look like they were Abby). That would mean that the real blocked person was Scotty, and I guess redirecting has a higher priority over roleblocking?

[MacDougall]

if mac and lc are both town i dont get what happened to the nk unless scotty busdrove it around

if mac/lc/rondo/scotty are all 4 town i dont think mafia purposefully targets mac for the kill

They didn't. They simply targeted LC or Rondo who had protection and failed.

[Long Con]

Stuff got switched around eh.

That's weird.

LC did you get a check?

I know everything changes
Yeah, it's strange how time marches on
Maybe there'll be some time in the future
Oh, tell me I'm not wrong

Whichever host invented post curses in the first place needs to be time paradoxed

There's honestly a fair chance that it was me.

[MacDougall]

caught for the wrong reasons

LOL I was proud when I got it as "Can't Fucking Tell Who's Right".

I was targeted and successfully roleblocked someone.

Silence was prevented as per host.

Leetic was roleblocked.

I think at least exploring this was a reasonable path for me to take no? I can't be expected going in to account for every piece of information Leetic has stated in his defense.

I think the omgus and vitriol hurled back at me is of the unreasonable amount given this.

I don't think that your reflexive roleblock would extend to powers not used on you. As in, the silence would be blocked, but the Oracle wouldn't.

Surely this whole idea that Oracle was roleblocked falls apart at the part where nobody would prioritise roleblocking an Oracle?

Like take all the silence and Mac part away. Doesn't it make more sense he's just lying about being roleblocked to cover for the fact he lied about the role in the first place?

That is a possibility, but the Oracle SEEMS to have been blocked today. And if "the real Oracle" is a Town role, then they'd have called Leetic out long ago, and certainly today. I don't think he's lying about the role UNLESS it is just that is teammate is the role (and it would follow that THEY were blocked).

BUT

The town roleblocker is dead. So it's likely that a Wolf blocked the Oracle, evidenced in the Host post.

That is extremely unlikely for a Wolf to choose. So my best theory is that the busdriver messed with the Wolf blocker.

WHICH MEANS that the busdriver should get their ass out here and let us know who the damn wolf is that they messed with.

But that hasn't happened. No, wait. Scotty is the busdriver. That fits with his trickle of info so far. Scotty busdrove me on N0, and I never targeted you, Mac? But I was still blocked.

I wish I had a good conclusion, but these are relevant thoughts anyway.

That makes sense actually. If Abby's claim is real, she probably targeted me (or the real post restrictor did so to make it look like they were Abby). That would mean that the real blocked person was Scotty, and I guess redirecting has a higher priority over roleblocking?

She said she targeted Tutuu.