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@nutella nothing from you either? Just a pop-in?
maybe Long Con is right about you...
maybe Long Con is right about you...
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I popped in and dropped a vote on Wilgy w/ no explanation, and I've been absent most of this RD
Why doesn't that bother you?
we can't stop here...this is bat country!
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nothing is happening
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OHHHH, ok, now we are finally getting somewhere. Beans Mafia! Thanks for finally answering.pyxxy wrote: ↑Sat Jan 06, 2024 6:08 pm"yeah I mean you TMI'd me wolf in that game"
"that game"
"that game"
I wish you would read my posts
you're wrong about Robyn and Nutella in this game
you TMI'd me as your scum partner in Beans
I am literally replying to your questions, your posts, and you're basically getting confused by your OWN inability to clearly communicate
It must be my inability to communicate psychically that's the issue.


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Also it's a damn weird thing to be hung up on in a game where you survived ten days longer than I did, and we both ended up winning the game... but somehow it's my fault you got voted out.

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Re: Battle of the Bands Mafia [Day 2]
Yeah, what's up with the pop-in vote on Wilgy, falcon?falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Jan 06, 2024 6:35 pm
I popped in and dropped a vote on Wilgy w/ no explanation, and I've been absent most of this RD
Why doesn't that bother you?

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Also this was funny. Top drawer, Ms Rab!

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Wilgy's posts on Abi and LoRab don't make sense to me.
It's not "risky" for a Wolf to say, after it's a done deal, that they would have voted for Robyn, and that she thought Robyn's play was wolfy. For you to "townfirm" LoRab over something that would basically be an easy throwaway post of "look I have no TMI" doesn't sit well at all.
Further, there's no credit to be had if LoRab was right, and Robyn had been a Wolf. LoRab didn't help find the Wolf, and trying to get credit being right while not voting for her is the thing that's more "risky", because that would expose some level of TMI.
That your presented logic is so backward makes me think that LoRab might actually be town, and you are less than subtly trying to pocket her.
Why did you say we'd be able to tell that Abi is Wolf by judging her townreads. How would they "inevitably" show as TMI? Are you saying she never townreads a Wolf partner? If so, then surely you have noted who she didn't townread, if it's an inevitablity? How does this statement hold any credibility if you give it away this early in the game?? You're... not worried at all that she clearly has the ability to read, and could EXTREMELY EASILY confound this so-called inevitability?
Several statements about her here, but the only thing close to an attempt to read her is the sketchy and dubious statement that I criticized above.
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Further, there's no credit to be had if LoRab was right, and Robyn had been a Wolf. LoRab didn't help find the Wolf, and trying to get credit being right while not voting for her is the thing that's more "risky", because that would expose some level of TMI.
That your presented logic is so backward makes me think that LoRab might actually be town, and you are less than subtly trying to pocket her.
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Several statements about her here, but the only thing close to an attempt to read her is the sketchy and dubious statement that I criticized above.

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man I'm trying to see a world where you really believe what you're saying but this just looks soooooo forced
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Actually, the read was in the next post, and I knew it... I just forgot by the time I was done writing about the sketchy post.
Still don't like it. He questions her drive-by vote on pyxxy, something people normally find to be suspicious, but ignores it to reach the townlean. I don't think Wilgy's reads here are genuine, because the logic he presents to reach them doesn't hold up.

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and yeah it does look like we'll be up against each other today so I do have to hope you're a hit but nothing you're doing is really causing any doubt
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Re: Battle of the Bands Mafia [Day 1]
something something plinko boards and waterfallsLong Con wrote: ↑Sat Jan 06, 2024 7:29 pm Actually, the read was in the next post, and I knew it... I just forgot by the time I was done writing about the sketchy post.
Still don't like it. He questions her drive-by vote on pyxxy, something people normally find to be suspicious, but ignores it to reach the townlean. I don't think Wilgy's reads here are genuine, because the logic he presents to reach them doesn't hold up.
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Re: Battle of the Bands Mafia [Day 2]
Hi Falc, how's your weekend going?
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Not really.LoRab wrote: ↑Sat Jan 06, 2024 4:29 pmI'm not entirely convinced that they both could be bad. That said, I'm not seeing bad Nutella, personally, but I realize others are and I guess the reasons--especially as they are from people who have played with her more recently. However, one flipping bad doesn't mean that the other one isn't also bad.
Did that make any sense outside of my brain?
Nutella's and LC's actions towards each other and towards players seem like they can't be on the same team.
For example, their vote on Robyn. If they were on the same team, it means W Nut saw W LC vote Robyn and then decided "sure let's put all our eggs in one basket" and voted the same townie as their teammate. Wolves rarely do that in general and that's just one example of how they aren't aligned.
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Gonna make me open a laptop to split this one up eh?Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Jan 06, 2024 7:24 pm Wilgy's posts on Abi and LoRab don't make sense to me.
It's not "risky" for a Wolf to say, after it's a done deal, that they would have voted for Robyn, and that she thought Robyn's play was wolfy. For you to "townfirm" LoRab over something that would basically be an easy throwaway post of "look I have no TMI" doesn't sit well at all.Spoiler: show
Further, there's no credit to be had if LoRab was right, and Robyn had been a Wolf. LoRab didn't help find the Wolf, and trying to get credit being right while not voting for her is the thing that's more "risky", because that would expose some level of TMI.
That your presented logic is so backward makes me think that LoRab might actually be town, and you are less than subtly trying to pocket her.
Why did you say we'd be able to tell that Abi is Wolf by judging her townreads. How would they "inevitably" show as TMI? Are you saying she never townreads a Wolf partner? If so, then surely you have noted who she didn't townread, if it's an inevitablity? How does this statement hold any credibility if you give it away this early in the game?? You're... not worried at all that she clearly has the ability to read, and could EXTREMELY EASILY confound this so-called inevitability?Spoiler: show
Several statements about her here, but the only thing close to an attempt to read her is the sketchy and dubious statement that I criticized above.
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1) it's your metafalcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Jan 06, 2024 6:35 pm
I popped in and dropped a vote on Wilgy w/ no explanation, and I've been absent most of this RD
Why doesn't that bother you?
2) it's your meta
3) it's your meta
4) and also it was at least a contribution
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if you're town, then just trust me when I say that Long Con is town and vote SPF
I am giving you both an out from being the two wagons today
I am serving this up on a platter but suddenly neither of you are hungry
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Aye, so it is in fact risky for a wolf to say. Wolves, who are too wrong too often, inevitably run the course of 'why are they wrong so much? Oh, its because they are a wolf' by enabling being wrong, for seemingly no reward, all it does is add content to the thread that help us explore LoRab's headspace. I don't think a W actively needs to do that, so why would W LoRab do this?Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Jan 06, 2024 7:24 pm Wilgy's posts on Abi and LoRab don't make sense to me.
It's not "risky" for a Wolf to say, after it's a done deal, that they would have voted for Robyn, and that she thought Robyn's play was wolfy. For you to "townfirm" LoRab over something that would basically be an easy throwaway post of "look I have no TMI" doesn't sit well at all.Spoiler: show
Further, there's no credit to be had if LoRab was right, and Robyn had been a Wolf. LoRab didn't help find the Wolf, and trying to get credit being right while not voting for her is the thing that's more "risky", because that would expose some level of TMI.
That your presented logic is so backward makes me think that LoRab might actually be town, and you are less than subtly trying to pocket her.
There definitely is a sense of 'credit' when a flip hasn't happened yet. It goes back to the 'correct vs incorrect' at the very least, LoRab would've obtained the argument 'BUT I WAS CORRECT ABOUT W ROBYN' vote placed or not.
Pretty sure SPF saw the same thing and said specifically, if LoRab was a wolf, that the post is clever, and I agree with that completely. If LoRab is a wolf and made that post, it very effectively broke down a sense of TMI in town observers and also put them on the incorrect side of the flip, trading that cushion for a firm appearance as town. I really don't think wolves inherently do that, if W LoRab did it was in fact very lv3 wolf play, and thus it's just more likely a town play.
Abi as a player makes very good town reads regardless of alignment. They either utilize TMI OR they are just good at town reading the correct players. When Abi is correct too often or incorrect too often, can you find the reason as to why they were incorrect? That's how you find Abi's alignment. If Abi gives an unearned tr that is incorrect, you probably found their partner. When Abi doesn't give a tr that should be more obvious, that's where you've found their push. It's very much a meta call on this behavior, but it's observable and I've seen it several times now. Abi is hard to read d1 and easier to read late game because of this and thus the read on Abi becomes 'inevitable.'Why did you say we'd be able to tell that Abi is Wolf by judging her townreads. How would they "inevitably" show as TMI? Are you saying she never townreads a Wolf partner? If so, then surely you have noted who she didn't townread, if it's an inevitablity? How does this statement hold any credibility if you give it away this early in the game?? You're... not worried at all that she clearly has the ability to read, and could EXTREMELY EASILY confound this so-called inevitability?Spoiler: show
Several statements about her here, but the only thing close to an attempt to read her is the sketchy and dubious statement that I criticized above.
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Wowee, Abi, who I gave reasons to town read voted the same person I was voting and I wasn't inherently suspicious of it? WHAT A TWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESTLong Con wrote: ↑Sat Jan 06, 2024 7:29 pm Actually, the read was in the next post, and I knew it... I just forgot by the time I was done writing about the sketchy post.
Still don't like it. He questions her drive-by vote on pyxxy, something people normally find to be suspicious, but ignores it to reach the townlean. I don't think Wilgy's reads here are genuine, because the logic he presents to reach them doesn't hold up.
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Like, I voted Pyx, argued Pyx was PoE, argued Robyn shouldn't, and Abi voted for the player I found wolfy amongst the lead wagons and I should question it in great detail after already town reading the slot?
That's just silly.
That's just silly.
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Wagons are still fine. Gonna go feed a child or two.
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He's not ignoring it. He's bad.
He's so clearly bad. He's spreading chaos. Like he does when he's evil. FEBbers gonna FEB.
He isn't even trying to pretend to seem civ at this point.
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no it doesnt xd
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can I ask you why you think they aren't aligned?
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yeah i understand that there hasn't been much content in this game and maybe that would make it harder for you to be obvious town, but your read on long con doesn't make any sense to menutella wrote: ↑Sat Jan 06, 2024 1:02 pmgm i see that you are pushing me for pretty unfounded reasoningstaypositivefriend wrote: ↑Fri Jan 05, 2024 10:20 pmlike these reads simply do not feel real to me, gives off the vibe of a wolf phoning in content more than a villager who is actively playing from an uninformed perspective
i acknowledge that i am p tunneled however
I don't thiiink both LC and you are wolfing me here so if you're town and misreading me try again, my content is pretty obviously how I always toss out reads as town it's just such a low content thread with less to play off of. Real time interaction should help you find me
you voted robyn and didn't seem to doubt yourself on that vote at all even though they were towntelling and one of the most active solvers in the thread
and then you randomly threw long con and robyn in a dichtomy together - saying that long con might be mafia if robyn wasn't
and your reasoning for thinking that robyn/long con needed to contain one mafia is because long con's vote on robyn "could be predatory"
but you literally voted robyn at the exact same time that long con did and seemingly based on the exact same interaction. so, how does it make sense to say that his vote was "predatory" when it was a vote that you actively agreed with and followed at the time?
your worldview tracks as so incoherent to me that i really struggle to see a world where you can be town lol it seems like you are just phoning your reads in because you know you can get away with it
im open to realtiming with you in case im wrong, altho i proly wont be able to do that today
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yeah if you're town then you are overthinking it because your description of the threadstate doesn't align with realitypyxxy wrote: ↑Sat Jan 06, 2024 2:47 pmyes and ty for letting me sleep I got a wonderful 9 hoursstaypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Jan 06, 2024 3:34 am can you tell me why u think nutella and long con are town?
Nutella is acting strange and so I might be overthinking it. I'm even willing to call you two a personal difference check for how I'm reading the game. I think of Nutella as more active, more "towny" although that's not super helpful, and often getting N1'd for being obv town from the wolves' perspective. I don't see that here.
However, the general willingness from the thread to scumread Nutella feels less like town being correct and more conf bias + wolves being fine with chopping town Nutella. Enough that I'm think I'm willing to try to yank the wagons off Nutella and.....
Long Con! LC is just scumreading townies again. Doesn't feel like when I wolfed with him and he had awkward TMI problems.
This + the entire thread being happy with these two wagons tells me they are both town wagons.
you say that there's a "general willingness from the thread:" to scumread nutella, but is that actually true? the only person who was pushing for nutella to be eliminated prior to me coming into this game was long con, and everyone else has been content to focus primarily on other targets
the narrative that the wolves are sitting back and vibing as everyone piles on to nutella doesn't align with how the day has played out so far - seems obvious to me that the designated elimination for today is long con
which fits with the world i currently live in, which is a world where long con is town and nutella is mafia who has been trying to stack a robyn and long con ML back to back
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and also yes nutella is one of the most obvious villagers that ive ever seen and if she is coming off as strangely or unnaturally to you then it's because she's just mafia lol
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now unfortunately im not going to be here pretty much at all between now and the EOD which means that long con is proly getting eliminated since i doubt anyone else is gonna take the imitative to try to get nutella killed even tho fmpov she seems to be bleeding scum
so gl gl
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to be clear im not ~that confident about nutella/LC being unaligned but the way nutella has kinda anchored herself into the game by constantly pushing on LC and calling him wolfy kinda reads to me as a wolf who is trying to get him miseliminated more than partners doing a distancing play
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Can you say more about why you think that LC is town? Because that seems highly unlikely to me.staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Jan 06, 2024 9:17 pm which fits with the world i currently live in, which is a world where long con is town and nutella is mafia who has been trying to stack a robyn and long con ML back to back
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pyxxy wrote: ↑Sat Jan 06, 2024 8:21 pm1) it's your metafalcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Jan 06, 2024 6:35 pm
I popped in and dropped a vote on Wilgy w/ no explanation, and I've been absent most of this RD
Why doesn't that bother you?
2) it's your meta
3) it's your meta
4) and also it was at least a contribution
See, that's the thing tho...big absences during a RD, especially after being previosly active, is my meta yes.
But it's not my town meta
we can't stop here...this is bat country!
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it's less about anything that LC has individually posted and more that i think nutella is a wolf and the way she's gone about treating the LC slot doesn't look like W/W interactionLoRab wrote: ↑Sat Jan 06, 2024 9:24 pmCan you say more about why you think that LC is town? Because that seems highly unlikely to me.staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Jan 06, 2024 9:17 pm which fits with the world i currently live in, which is a world where long con is town and nutella is mafia who has been trying to stack a robyn and long con ML back to back
in a world where im being silly and nutella is town then i do think that LC is mafia ~most of the time
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It's just gettin' started, and I'm off to an old Philosophy Prof's birthday extravaganza...tho I'm told the extravaganza bit may be hyperbole
we can't stop here...this is bat country!
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he just seems like an obvious wolf atp nothing he says reflects reality in a remotely helpful waystaypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Jan 06, 2024 9:13 pmyeah i understand that there hasn't been much content in this game and maybe that would make it harder for you to be obvious town, but your read on long con doesn't make any sense to menutella wrote: ↑Sat Jan 06, 2024 1:02 pmgm i see that you are pushing me for pretty unfounded reasoningstaypositivefriend wrote: ↑Fri Jan 05, 2024 10:20 pmlike these reads simply do not feel real to me, gives off the vibe of a wolf phoning in content more than a villager who is actively playing from an uninformed perspective
i acknowledge that i am p tunneled however
I don't thiiink both LC and you are wolfing me here so if you're town and misreading me try again, my content is pretty obviously how I always toss out reads as town it's just such a low content thread with less to play off of. Real time interaction should help you find me
idk how you can think this? how were they an active solver at all lmao they posted like twice in the first half of the day and didn't contribute until they were on the chopping block
the basis for this seems plainly obvious idk what to tell youand then you randomly threw long con and robyn in a dichtomy together - saying that long con might be mafia if robyn wasn't
and your reasoning for thinking that robyn/long con needed to contain one mafia is because long con's vote on robyn "could be predatory"
because of the framing? obviously i'm biased toward my own reasoning and thought his looked fakebut you literally voted robyn at the exact same time that long con did and seemingly based on the exact same interaction. so, how does it make sense to say that his vote was "predatory" when it was a vote that you actively agreed with and followed at the time?
i am starting to feel the same about you the picture you're painting in this post is completely out of touch and i get that you weren't here so were quite literally out of touch with the thread temperature on d1 but like you're missing a lot of nuance hereyour worldview tracks as so incoherent to me that i really struggle to see a world where you can be town lol it seems like you are just phoning your reads in because you know you can get away with it
im open to realtiming with you in case im wrong, altho i proly wont be able to do that today
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almost tempted to bite on pyxxy's offer for that post but your posts after have sounded a bit more real
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i can kinda see pyxxy's world of spf/sheep/lorab hmmmm
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bleh i don't know sometimes LC is just inscrutable as town
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would wolf spf push me like this
maybe in the circumstances of this game she'd try it
maybe in the circumstances of this game she'd try it
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or it's just LC and pyxxy together and that's the devil in my ear
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no lol
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lorab is town
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God, it's like my brain's that tree,
and spf are those little cookie elves.
and spf are those little cookie elves.
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I kinda think their back and forth isn't w/w
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