[ENDGAME]: Film Directors.

[S~V~S]

Ricochet, i see you are here. What is your take on Vompatti? Sorry if you have already said it.

[Marmot]

Hey everyone I am super sick and really need to take some nyquill so I need to vote now. I haven't caught up so I going to go ahead a vote MM again. I think he has been sticking up for a lot of people this games which I feel like he either knows they aren't on his baddie team so their is a good shot at them being civ, or they are on his team and he is just sticking up for them.

Who have I been sticking up for?

[Ricochet]

Oh sure, now people are suspicious of Ricochet. I was doing it before it was cool.

For me it was since yesterday morning when he made that remark about the Big Case. He would post, then leave the site completely, he did not show as being here, then he would come back as soon as I spoke to him, reply, and leave again. Like someone posting from phone, flipping back and forth between sites. But this is a game with civ BTS so I don't want to jump to conclusions when someone new acts like they have BTS.

OK, gotta do some more reading.

I still don't understand why I'm suspicious for my remark of looking into the "Big Case" other players have been making, throughout a full phase. My flipping on and off the site is a bad forum habit I've had since ever. I'm always on the internet a lot, but never really browse keeping all tabs and accounts open. So I've basically been doing the whole time during this game, but only you find it suspicious and only just now. During our conversation, however, I was online until I said I'd have to leave for a considerable amount of time (had a class), which I did. Still a whole lot of misunderstanding about that exchange, if you ask me.

linki: One cautious re-read away from deciding, perhaps, but inclined to vote him. Overall I still it could very much be 50-50 regarding how he'll flip. He usually pleaded players to reconsider lynching him when the day phase was at its beginnings, more relaxed, but switched back to his pretence when the heat was on him again. It's difficult to read this, then again I believe he'll stick to doing this pretty much the whole game from now on and I can't say I'm ok with this.

[Ricochet]

I've basically been doing it*
Overall I still think*

[Marmot]

linki: One cautious re-read away from deciding, perhaps, but inclined to vote him. Overall I still it could very much be 50-50 regarding how he'll flip. He usually pleaded players to reconsider lynching him when the day phase was at its beginnings, more relaxed, but switched back to his pretence when the heat was on him again. It's difficult to read this, then again I believe he'll stick to doing this pretty much the whole game from now on and I can't say I'm ok with this.

Who, vomps? I do agree with your comments about his playstyle.

[Ricochet]

linki: One cautious re-read away from deciding, perhaps, but inclined to vote him. Overall I still it could very much be 50-50 regarding how he'll flip. He usually pleaded players to reconsider lynching him when the day phase was at its beginnings, more relaxed, but switched back to his pretence when the heat was on him again. It's difficult to read this, then again I believe he'll stick to doing this pretty much the whole game from now on and I can't say I'm ok with this.

Who, vomps? I do agree with your comments about his playstyle.

Yes, the linki was for SVS.

[nijuukyugou]

I'mma go eat dinner soon, but some thoughts:

Rico is getting interesting. At first I chalked up his mafia know-how and coming back in to comment on himself to lurking in the thread and being careful. Still possible. But it's happening A LOT. A lot more than seems lucky/coincidental. And perhaps it's splitting hairs, but I too found it strange that he self-correct with Canuck's gender without prodding from the thread.

Re-read Made. He looks busy, as llama said, and while I agree with others that a less active Made = baddie Made (hell, I've been two for two with him!), this time, the majority of his posts are actually stating his busyness, while his baddie self just posts more sporadically. He'll need to say more to get my my eye off of him, but I'm not confident enough at all to vote.

I like consistency. I will likely vote Vomps again if nothing crazy pops up. But these are just my current thoughts. If anyone wants more, then by all means ask and I shall answer

[Vompatti]

If you vote me out the terrorists have already won.

[Marmot]

Who are the terrorists vomps?

[Vompatti]

Who are the terrorists vomps?

I dunno k. How about FZ and nigigoiigousukuyoo?

[Marmot]

Who are the terrorists vomps?

I dunno k. How about FZ and nigigoiigousukuyoo?

Why them? Are they bad because they voted for you?

[Ricochet]

Not that you've done admirably well to defend yourself so far, Vomps, but how is throwing a couple of names without backing it up in any way supposed to help you?

[Marmot]

vompatti, if we lynch you today, will we regret it?

Who should we lynch that would benefit the civs?

[Vompatti]

Who are the terrorists vomps?

I dunno k. How about FZ and nigigoiigousukuyoo?

Why them? Are they bad because they voted for you?

They seem unreasonably eager to ride on Llama's clearly fallacious theory.

vompatti, if we lynch you today, will we regret it?

you might but you'll get over it.

Who should we lynch that would benefit the civs?

FZ k

[timmer]

In for a second while on my break. I haven't seen anything to make me change my mind about MP, so he gets my vote. That said, I'm very intrigued by the prospect of a Vomps lynch, so if the thread goes that way, I'm good with that. He's 100% meta now, playing with the perception of himself, which doesn't feel all that civvie. Plus, a lot of people have weighed in on him, so there would be lots of leads. I'm still going with MP though, I believe he is bad and have seen no reason to change my mind.

[Roxy]

Thoughts on people with votes

Vomps - I have said before idk Vomp's game the way llama claims to. I have played several games with him and for me he seems the same. His posts at the end of last lynch did give me pause. I have been wrong this game maybe I should trust others judgement but it is usualy not how I play.

MP - he has said quite a bit about a lot of players.It seems like he is trying to help find baddies. tbs MP is very difficult for me to read. I want to always trust him and SVS bc they are always so fun in a game and its always great to have them on the civvie side. I never had time to reread his posts s I really can't add anything more at this time. I just have not had the time.

MM - yes Bass has voted for him repeatedly citing that he seems to be defending a lot of players. He has defended players - the self voting AP and Vomp and a little bit ti Ricochet. I am not sure if that makes him bad or not tbh. I do think he is wrong in his no u suspicion of Bass. I am unsure about LC and as I have said I think of SVS as civ unless given a reason that twitches my nose. Those are his top suspects. After reading back on some of his posts I am left unsure about him.

I want to add something about Ricochet - while being in his first game I get the eagerness factor in responding to every post with your name in it and some that don't - you do have that "I have help" vibe but its hard to say if you are getting it from bts or the Hostess. I could see Mongoose putting you with someone for your first game the question is would she make you civ or bad bts?

So no one else feels the same about Made as I do which is where I want to vote. I am going eat some soup and think a bit.

[Mongoose]

Here's a picture of me in front of the historic Tampa Theatre, circa July 2007.

Don't forget to vote, folks!

[Marmot]

I will vote!

Also, what does everyone think of Bass?

[S~V~S]

I will vote!

Also, what does everyone think of Bass?

Like most people, he's a question mark still.

I plan to vote for sure. I am just trying to decide how I feel about a few things. I keep reading the same posts over & over again. Not sure if I am being blinded by brilliance or baffled by bullshit.

Ricochet, if you don't vote for Vomps based on that 50/50, who will you vote for? Someone you feel more or less than 50/50 on? Is there someone you suspect more than 50/50? What's holding you back? I have like 3 or 4 people, and they are all less than 50%.

[Tangrowth]

I don't know what to say to timmer (and others') accusations other than what I've already said. I've been genuinely hunting baddies, but of course if you don't believe I have been doing that then that's your interpretation and I don't think I can change that. I didn't vote AP or Vomps even though I had 2 votes and they each had 3 because it didn't seem like I was really in any danger of getting lynched, and I didn't really find either of them suspicious -- and would never have known which to vote for over the other. So I made my vote and cast it in accordance with who I really felt should be lynched. I suspected BR because I thought what she was doing was suspicious, but I don't really find her suspicious now. I don't know what else to say. I hope people believe me. If anyone has any specific questions I can answer, that'd be great, since I feel I've addressed everything in my posts.

I don't understand why people are finding Rico suspicious over being here and leaving, here and leaving, etc. That's a habit I've developed as well. I don't understand the suspicion at all here to be honest. It doesn't seem like Rico has BTSC to me; having known him for the last few years, even though I haven't talked to him much in a while, I always thought he would love mafia and be fantastic at it, so I'm glad to finally see him take the plunge. I see his behavior as a natural mafia player, perhaps, but no real indication of anyone coaching him.

I guess I'll probably vote Vomps to save myself and because he's not really helping, but I'll wait and see what others think before I do that, since I'm not really feeling he's bad. I don't know who else I'd vote at this point... maybe I should stick with my gut read on S~V~S, BR, FZ., or Dom, even if I've abandoned feeling strongly about any of them (and at different intervals). My gut is still feeling like at least a couple of those players are bad, probably in that order (I suspect Dom the least). That said, I still don't feel anything remotely strong about any of them. Meh.

I have no clue on MM, but he does feel a bit different to me this game than other games. Not really sure what it is though, just can't put my finger on it. And I thought Blooper's echoing of S~V~S's point re: Rico was odd. But IDK about her either.

I just feel I haven't found my bearing yet this game.

I have to continue doing homework, so I'll be back later.

[Ricochet]

It's almost 3am here and deadline is still two hours away. Too late for me to stay because I need to sleep, so voting now.

linki @SVS: No, I said I think the outcome could be 50/50, because of Vomps' gameplay itself. How I feel about his gameplay weighs more for me to vote for him, right now.

[S~V~S]

MP, People aren't allowed to have similar opinions without it being "echoing"?

Linki, for who?

[Ricochet]

For Vomps.

[Marmot]

MM - yes Bass has voted for him repeatedly citing that he seems to be defending a lot of players. He has defended players - the self voting AP and Vomp and a little bit ti Ricochet. I am not sure if that makes him bad or not tbh. I do think he is wrong in his no u suspicion of Bass. I am unsure about LC and as I have said I think of SVS as civ unless given a reason that twitches my nose. Those are his top suspects. After reading back on some of his posts I am left unsure about him.

Bass's original vote for me was predicated on the fact that I self-voted because I was going to be out of town camping. Anyway, moving on from that, he voiced no suspicion against AP, DF, or Spacedaisy for self-voting, and even stated in hindsight that he though that AP was civ.

This early in the game I play with my gut more then anything and my gut is telling MM is bad. I didn't think AP was bad I really not sure about vomps though I think people have pointed out things that are starting to make me think he is bad. So I might me voting him or MM this time. Also why only ask me this question when I wasn't the only person to vote for someone that didn't have any votes?

I am annoyed that Bass continues to vote for me on an unfounded reason, and just keeps on calling it a gut-read, but he's also been mighty inconsistent.

[Dom]

I'm voting MP

[Marmot]

I don't know what to say to timmer (and others') accusations other than what I've already said. I've been genuinely hunting baddies, but of course if you don't believe I have been doing that then that's your interpretation and I don't think I can change that. I didn't vote AP or Vomps even though I had 2 votes and they each had 3 because it didn't seem like I was really in any danger of getting lynched, and I didn't really find either of them suspicious -- and would never have known which to vote for over the other. So I made my vote and cast it in accordance with who I really felt should be lynched. I suspected BR because I thought what she was doing was suspicious, but I don't really find her suspicious now. I don't know what else to say. I hope people believe me. If anyone has any specific questions I can answer, that'd be great, since I feel I've addressed everything in my posts.

I don't understand why people are finding Rico suspicious over being here and leaving, here and leaving, etc. That's a habit I've developed as well. I don't understand the suspicion at all here to be honest. It doesn't seem like Rico has BTSC to me; having known him for the last few years, even though I haven't talked to him much in a while, I always thought he would love mafia and be fantastic at it, so I'm glad to finally see him take the plunge. I see his behavior as a natural mafia player, perhaps, but no real indication of anyone coaching him.

I guess I'll probably vote Vomps to save myself and because he's not really helping, but I'll wait and see what others think before I do that, since I'm not really feeling he's bad. I don't know who else I'd vote at this point... maybe I should stick with my gut read on S~V~S, BR, FZ., or Dom, even if I've abandoned feeling strongly about any of them (and at different intervals). My gut is still feeling like at least a couple of those players are bad, probably in that order (I suspect Dom the least). That said, I still don't feel anything remotely strong about any of them. Meh.

I have no clue on MM, but he does feel a bit different to me this game than other games. Not really sure what it is though, just can't put my finger on it. And I thought Blooper's echoing of S~V~S's point re: Rico was odd. But IDK about her either.

I just feel I haven't found my bearing yet this game.

I have to continue doing homework, so I'll be back later.

I can kinda see why people find you suspicious MP. You just said a whole lot here without saying anything.

Point 1 - review of your game so far

Point 2 - defense of Rico

Point 3 - on the fence about vomps

Point 4 - don't know about the marmot

Point 5 - don't know about ninja bloops

Bottom line - back to homework.

[Turnip Head]

:-/ While we're throwing percentages around I'm only feeling 60%ish about MP right now, but that's stronger than how I feel about anyone else.

I'm done defending Vomps at this point but I don't think I can join in lynching him. Lots of players here are voting for Vomps because they don't understand him, and to me that's a bummer. But for all I know he could be bad. I just don't see an actual case, though I agree there are similarities to his gameplay here and Are You Being Served.

[Turnip Head]

That latest post from MP felt really genuine to me though.

[S~V~S]

I was feeling that Ricochet was waiting for a tipping point before he voted Vomp, but that was not the case.

I think MM hit the mail on the head about MP.

Linki, which equivocation felt most genuine, TH?

[Turnip Head]

I don't know. It just felt very passive and sincere to me. I find baddie MP to be more aggressive, especially in the heat of the moment like this. He didn't really throw out any big cases on anyone, like he should have if he were bad and wanting to live. Maybe he's just given up either way, but idk. It's making me trust him a little.

[Turnip Head]

And so in a plot twist I have voted for Made. I keep forgetting about him... and I think that's his plan.

[Marmot]

I was feeling that Ricochet was waiting for a tipping point before he voted Vomp, but that was not the case.

I think MM hit the mail on the head about MP.

Linki, which equivocation felt most genuine, TH?

Well since he does live in Nauru, I'm surprised he's even up this late playing.

Linki: MP in Dr. Who was civ (for most of the game), and he was extremely aggressive.

Linki again:

[Turnip Head]

He's also been aggressive whenever I've played with him as a baddie. He seems a bit detached right now and I don't associate that with his baddie style at all.

[DFaraday]

I hosted Vomps in WWE, and he posted virtually nothing on topic all game, yet he sent in his powers consistently and was actually a major player behind the scenes. So even if he's not being helpful in thread, I don't want to just dismiss him out of hand as not helping civvies. His behavior is typical Vomps to me, so I won't be voting him.

I'm leaning civ on MP, and MM I'm really not sure. I do agree that Rico seems to be catching on awfully quick, perhaps a little too much. I will *vote Rico* today.

[DFaraday]

Oh, and I don't have a read on Made, but then again, I never have been able to read him yet.

[Marmot]

Er, wait, I'm confused. The time in Nauru now is 1:23 PM.

[S~V~S]

I was feeling that Ricochet was waiting for a tipping point before he voted Vomp, but that was not the case.

I think MM hit the mail on the head about MP.

Linki, which equivocation felt most genuine, TH?

Well since he does live in Nauru, I'm surprised he's even up this late playing

That was kinda my point

Linki

[Turnip Head]

What do you think of Made, Marshypoo?

linki: What do you think of Made, SVS?

[Roxy]

Took time to read MP

In the very beginning he was all up in arms about SVS use of OT to suss out baddies. There was talk of witch hunts and the like but eventually he backed down.

Then he was back and forth with llama about making assumptions on day 1 it was a silly read tbs but again I felt he backed down in the end.

Dom-gate - he had a big huge pages long back and forth with Dom saying he wasn't naming suspects even though in Dom's first response he states clearly he suspected llama and thought he had made that clear - well no need to detail the entire back forth but MP did say he thought it was distracting but HE CLEARLY brought it back up several times even asking what others thought of Dom - continuing the instigation then you know what happened? He backed fown.

He has continually said he thought Vomps was playing normal but now he is poss backing downand voting for him.

He had voiced suspicion of BR but only voted for her in a throw-away fashion that just felt like an easy way out last lynch. He did seem to back off of his suspicion for bit after tohers weighed in on his suspicion but then brought it back up and used it to justify his vote for her. to be fair he did keep saying "dang it I don't know what to do" during the lynch prior to his vote. he did explain that he does not know Vomps or AP that well so he voted where he felt the strongest - BR. Its a funny excuse bc he know Vomps and AP as well as any of us he has prob played the same number of games with them as me at least so do feel like he could make some sort of clearjudgement one way or the other as many other did.

After reading back I could very well see my vote going to MP .

[nijuukyugou]

Who are the terrorists vomps?

I dunno k. How about FZ and nigigoiigousukuyoo?

This is the true spelling of my name. I did my best, but I could never get it quite right :P

[Marmot]

What do you think of Made, Marshypoo?

linki: What do you think of Made, SVS?

I don't know. His Day 1 vote was odd, and he never really explained it. He's either a flailing (under-the-radar) baddie, or just plain distracted. Still, looking at it that way, that gives him a decent chance of being bad.

Linki: lol at ninja bloops :P

[Turnip Head]

Bloops where are you looking to place your vote?

Rox do you feel like trying Made before MP?

[Turnip Head]

Ah, I see you have voted for teh vomperdoodle.

[S~V~S]

I thought he was distracted, TH, not unlike how I was.

[Turnip Head]

@SVS It's definitely possible that's all it was re: Made. Who are you feeling the strongest about?

[Marmot]

ninja already voted vomps. And she's a terrorist k

[Roxy]

Yes TH he is my strongest suspicion so far.

[Marmot]

Reread roles, I think it's more likely that Sabie saved herself for that very reason. I'll prolly catch up tomorrow morning

^^^Made's last post came one Wednesday night. He's logged in this morning, but no word from him.

[Marmot]

ebwop: ON Wednesday night

[Roxy]

I voted MP and noticed it tied him with Vomps.
Sorry TH no one else seems to feel the way we do about Made. I hope he wil post soon so I can further prove my points.