Game of Champions: West Facility (Night 2)

[Long Con]

yeah that'd make sense but just no robert downey jr

Oh man then I better not show you this one I was just finishing up while you posted that.

[Long Con]

Instead you get this one.

[Sloonei]

I have a couple reads on the people in here its ok

To quote the wise old owl: What are these reads you speak of?

[Long Con]

I think the owl would start with "Who" cause y'know

[Sloonei]

I doubt Secret Santa is a dangerous endeavor.

[TonyStarkPrime]

ok new avatar thanks lc no more putin

[TonyStarkPrime]

ok seriously I didn't really count at first but what's scrappy doo

[Long Con]

ok seriously I didn't really count at first but what's scrappy doo

Ha, I saw that referenced earlier, but I didn't realize. Very strange.

[Porscha]

guillotina

Pls

Ty

Why?

I have him strong tr from n0 so I wish to assist him in his thread if possible

[Porscha]

I think someone chose me as their secret santa! I don't see anyone on that list I wish to Secret Santa.

Do I need to read the last half of night 0? I'm on page 7 and now there's 14.

Doesn't masoning with someone mean having town BTSC with them? I just read the night 0 part with all the "oh, I'm masoning with you!" So is that just... agreeing to trust each other?

kind of

for me its just like. trust person is town until they start making me worry too much about my initial read lmao

[Porscha]

I want to secret santa Dizzy please.

Why?

Have you met Dizzy?

notorious winner as WOLF of last goc and I have in fact met dizzy............

[Porscha]

I want to secret santa Dizzy please.

Why?

Have you met Dizzy?

notorious winner as WOLF of last goc and I have in fact met dizzy............

sorry. my point is that I dont think dizzy was ai at all in the initial n0 thread, so idk about that explanation sean lol

[Porscha]

What do you guys think the secret Santa does?

maybe whoever gets most gift nominations receives a coveted ~prize~

[Porscha]

I'll just do GTHs of the people who already posted here, 'cause I'm not in the mood to go through the other thread:

TSP: GTH wolf, nothing here looks more impressive than what they posted in Severance.
LC: GTH town, one of the only people doing some light prodding here
Seanzie: GTH wolf, the attitude feels deflated in a way that doesn't really look towny.
Sloonei: GTH wolf, I expect better from him than what he's posted so far.
falcon: GTH town, I appreciate the boldness here.
Epignosis: GTH wolf, the jump on me is lame (I mean, there's nutella?)
Porscha: GTH wolf ("If Porscha has a single digit postcount for the first 24 hours of a phase, she's a wolf!")
Abby: GTH wolf ("Ouch")

Y'all better start towntelling

did you know on MU the joke is "Porscha (0) = must be town" lmao

[Porscha]

Epignosis: GTH wolf, the jump on me is lame (I mean, there's nutella?)

nutella isn't locked in here with me, is she?

There was no jump on your either. You're calling it a jump. I'm telling you I don't know where you stand after 22 posts of Day 0 complaints.

yeah idk like epi expressed a valid concern imo lol (an nai concern imo, think a town or wolf could easily latch onto that)

[Porscha]

I really should take more chances.

I could have made something of myself.

Okay.

Respond to this post with a name from the other list and I'll do the secret Santa thing with the person named.

I am currently preaching restraint on the gifts. Maybe discussion with the group before firing off advantages to other players of unknown alignment. Maybe there's someone who towntold during Night 0, with majority agreement? We could go all-in and shower that one player with many gifts.

Lots of possibilities, I just don't think treating it like an innocent subgame is a smart way to play.

you're probably right tbh lol

[Porscha]

Day 0 was 14 pages of mostly shit. Sorry. I wanted so much more.

Whaaaaat, no, I expected as much, I didn't want to have to tune into Night Zero. Night Zero where I come from is about casual talk, fluff, and maybe a little prod I dunno. I expect play to start for real on Day 1.

Read the rest of it yourself. Maybe you'll get more from it than I did.

All I got was that leetic and nutella are partners.

Oh, and Allison is probably bad too.

why you think alison bad?

[Porscha]

I have a couple reads on the people in here its ok

To quote the wise old owl: What are these reads you speak of?

do you want the reads I had on n0 stuff (sorry really tired, legitimately asking)

[Porscha]

ok seriously I didn't really count at first but what's scrappy doo

Ha, I saw that referenced earlier, but I didn't realize. Very strange.

if I recall correctly about a syndicate game that I did not play in, um

it was a fake character. I dont remember / know anything else about it

[Ricochet]

Half a crowd, more comfy.

Scanning some N0, solely from people transferred to this facility.

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What is lamist?

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Caitlin - High poster pace, already feels like a chore to scan 80+ posts & lost focus halfway through tbh. Vibe was that she did a lot of convo and tells, but could have felt more substantive. Gonna rewind it later, in more depth, or just null it.

Delta - sticks out to me that most of their developed reads/gth (#608) happened off-screen (no argument or interaction with any of the mentioned except Sabi and leetic)

Epignosis - nothing of substance N0

falcon - enigma. fluff-a-thon

leetic - unpleasant tone vibes through almost all N0. only argument I found ok is the critique of Alison's take. early deems N0 content near-worthless, but then creates further "worthless" convo replying. quite aggro convo with nutella on the "interesting" debate and I fail to sense why such tone was needed - also bit of a piggyback from Guillotine's initial take. (side-note: would not exclude the chance of w/w between them and nutella, i.e. distancing fuel)

Long Con - chilled out N0

Porscha - bantered with several, couple of suss's. no ping, though if I'd nitpick, it'd be that out of them suss's, one on Alison feels like could have been more elaborated and one on sig is rather far orbit

Abigail - I've read everything and none of it was enlightening. also, as far as that wake-up-caitlin debate is concerned, though this would be more of a critique of Alison: apart from mental gymnastics, I see near-zero reason for wolves to do this in thread, N0

pyxxy - embarks on meme highway N0

Seanzie - off-screen small lean-list right off the bat

Scrappy who ??

sig - why have some treated sig as lhf/low-post, right now they have about the same amount of N0 as half of those in this group? on surmising town-helpful mindsets, one I can agree with (unlinking players as w/w too early, wrt Guillotine) and one I do not (negative / heated stuff demotivating town)

Sloonei - Sloonei appears to be playing this game

Spacedaisy - Kami

TSP - claimed slank N0

[Porscha]

hi rico, do you want me to elaborate on any of my reads

[Ricochet]

@Scotty

Santa Nanook

[Ricochet]

hi rico, do you want me to elaborate on any of my reads

Sure.

[Ricochet]

Bit of reading through D1 here as well.

Still not liking leetic. Every point of reply oozing aggro. Is this an MO - and if so, which way leaning AI-wise? Pondered whether groupings are balanced, only to come with three quarters wolf GTH reads.

Wondered why TSP's sole game-focused point thus far was on Epignosis.

[Caitlin]

My friends are coming over today cuz it was my bday two days ago so I wont rlly be here today sorry

So do we all think the Secret Santa thing is positive? If so, any thoughts on me giving mine to Cape? I townread Cape & WWA the most on the other side and afaik WWA is a pretty controversial one making me lead towards giving it to Cape

[Caitlin]

Also LAMIST is look at me I'm so townie

It actually has two uses, both used for accusations even though only one is valid

The valid usage; someone is trying to do something just for the sake of seeming helpful or townie so you accuse them of being LAMIST cuz thats sus

The invalid usage; someone claims town and somehow lots of ppl think claiming town is scummy and falls under LAMIST

[Caitlin]

So for example, me taking the time to explain all that when I said I didnt have time and also didn't create content, was probably LAMIST

[Delta]

hihi o/ good morning

[Delta]

My friends are coming over today cuz it was my bday two days ago so I wont rlly be here today sorry

So do we all think the Secret Santa thing is positive? If so, any thoughts on me giving mine to Cape? I townread Cape & WWA the most on the other side and afaik WWA is a pretty controversial one making me lead towards giving it to Cape

Will catch up properly but thinking of Secret Santa

Do we need to prevent Secret Santa stacking? Like is it worth everyone making sure each player gets a Secret Santa? Might be worth coordinating that everyone picks someone unique over just taking at random

[S~V~S]

Good Morning, West Facility!

My my, you guys are chatty!

I am here today to clarify the "Info Dumping" rules. We have been getting some questions, and I would like to clear it up on day one.

We are trying to prevent statements like, "I am the cop, and I checked SVS last night and she is a wolf". Or "I'm a neighborizer and I have a neighborhood with the tracker and the watcher and they say Scotty is a wolf.". We built a fairly complex game, and this rule helps maintain balance.

We realize that banning info in game spaces can have the side effect of also disallowing fake claims, and, well, if there are no real claims, you don't need to make a fake one

* "I am town" is not a role claim
* "I am a Cop" *IS* a role claim.
* "I am going to kill you" is not a role claim
* I am going to kill you tonight" *IS* a role claim since it implies you have a night kill

Our other point is this; we are happy to answer questions and listen to complaints about this in Discord channels; I love listening to complaints. Please don't complain in thread.

We want everyone to have a good time, including us coming up with penalties and then having to actually use them is no fun for you or us. We are all super smart, successful Mafia champions (you have to be smart to play this game!). We can figure this out.

And again, if you have any concerns/complaints, please not in the thread. Thank You!

This is not an endorsement of QotSA, but this song was very thematic.

[Seanzie]

I want to secret santa Dizzy please.

Why?

Have you met Dizzy?

notorious winner as WOLF of last goc and I have in fact met dizzy............

sorry. my point is that I dont think dizzy was ai at all in the initial n0 thread, so idk about that explanation sean lol

I didn't choose Dizzy because of in-game reasons. I choose Dizzy because I asked myself "who on this list would I most like to get for Secret Santa?".

[Sloonei]

I have a couple reads on the people in here its ok

To quote the wise old owl: What are these reads you speak of?

do you want the reads I had on n0 stuff (sorry really tired, legitimately asking)

Yes

[Ricochet]

I took it as a good eyesight test that I was able to read the tiny bit from the Host Post without zooming or squinting.

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

[VOTE: Epignosis] aubergine for the really lame jump

Damn. You got me.

I wish I was as good a Mafia player as you.

Epi town lol

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

ok seriously I didn't really count at first but what's scrappy doo

Ha, I saw that referenced earlier, but I didn't realize. Very strange.

if I recall correctly about a syndicate game that I did not play in, um

it was a fake character. I dont remember / know anything else about it

I believe... robyn controlled it and I vaguely recall I pushed the sock cause I thought it was evil

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Half a crowd, more comfy.

Scanning some N0, solely from people transferred to this facility.

--

What is lamist?

--

Caitlin - High poster pace, already feels like a chore to scan 80+ posts & lost focus halfway through tbh. Vibe was that she did a lot of convo and tells, but could have felt more substantive. Gonna rewind it later, in more depth, or just null it.

Delta - sticks out to me that most of their developed reads/gth (#608) happened off-screen (no argument or interaction with any of the mentioned except Sabi and leetic)

Epignosis - nothing of substance N0

falcon - enigma. fluff-a-thon

leetic - unpleasant tone vibes through almost all N0. only argument I found ok is the critique of Alison's take. early deems N0 content near-worthless, but then creates further "worthless" convo replying. quite aggro convo with nutella on the "interesting" debate and I fail to sense why such tone was needed - also bit of a piggyback from Guillotine's initial take. (side-note: would not exclude the chance of w/w between them and nutella, i.e. distancing fuel)

Long Con - chilled out N0

Porscha - bantered with several, couple of suss's. no ping, though if I'd nitpick, it'd be that out of them suss's, one on Alison feels like could have been more elaborated and one on sig is rather far orbit

Abigail - I've read everything and none of it was enlightening. also, as far as that wake-up-caitlin debate is concerned, though this would be more of a critique of Alison: apart from mental gymnastics, I see near-zero reason for wolves to do this in thread, N0

pyxxy - embarks on meme highway N0

Seanzie - off-screen small lean-list right off the bat

Scrappy who ??

sig - why have some treated sig as lhf/low-post, right now they have about the same amount of N0 as half of those in this group? on surmising town-helpful mindsets, one I can agree with (unlinking players as w/w too early, wrt Guillotine) and one I do not (negative / heated stuff demotivating town)

Sloonei - Sloonei appears to be playing this game

Spacedaisy - Kami

TSP - claimed slank N0

If I had a dollar for every time someone told me I've done nothing enlightening I'd be so rich

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Bit of reading through D1 here as well.

Still not liking leetic. Every point of reply oozing aggro. Is this an MO - and if so, which way leaning AI-wise? Pondered whether groupings are balanced, only to come with three quarters wolf GTH reads.

Wondered why TSP's sole game-focused point thus far was on Epignosis.

It's leetic

It's nai

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

So for example, me taking the time to explain all that when I said I didnt have time and also didn't create content, was probably LAMIST

I wanna town core Caitlin so bad but I'm trying to be more cautious with them aaaaaaa

How many do I need to win anyways

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

8...I think

And I have!

Porscha

With an Epi and Caitlin on the side

So this is going well

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

I want to secret santa Dizzy please.

Why?

Have you met Dizzy?

notorious winner as WOLF of last goc and I have in fact met dizzy............

sorry. my point is that I dont think dizzy was ai at all in the initial n0 thread, so idk about that explanation sean lol

I didn't choose Dizzy because of in-game reasons. I choose Dizzy because I asked myself "who on this list would I most like to get for Secret Santa?".

Sean is town

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Meh fuck it

Town Core.

Porscha
Epi
Caitlin
Seanzie

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

4 more by EoD

[Long Con]

Yo, I'm in.

[Seanzie]

I want to secret santa Dizzy please.

Why?

Have you met Dizzy?

notorious winner as WOLF of last goc and I have in fact met dizzy............

sorry. my point is that I dont think dizzy was ai at all in the initial n0 thread, so idk about that explanation sean lol

I didn't choose Dizzy because of in-game reasons. I choose Dizzy because I asked myself "who on this list would I most like to get for Secret Santa?".

Sean is town

Why?

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Why?

Have you met Dizzy?

notorious winner as WOLF of last goc and I have in fact met dizzy............

sorry. my point is that I dont think dizzy was ai at all in the initial n0 thread, so idk about that explanation sean lol

I didn't choose Dizzy because of in-game reasons. I choose Dizzy because I asked myself "who on this list would I most like to get for Secret Santa?".

Sean is town

Why?

Why do I ever read anyone town

The vibes.

I don't think wolf you just goes yes know what fuck it I just threw a gift at someone I'd want to irl with no regard for gamestate or how it would effect it

[Ricochet]

Bit of reading through D1 here as well.

Still not liking leetic. Every point of reply oozing aggro. Is this an MO - and if so, which way leaning AI-wise? Pondered whether groupings are balanced, only to come with three quarters wolf GTH reads.

Wondered why TSP's sole game-focused point thus far was on Epignosis.

It's leetic

It's nai

Got a read on them, then?

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Bit of reading through D1 here as well.

Still not liking leetic. Every point of reply oozing aggro. Is this an MO - and if so, which way leaning AI-wise? Pondered whether groupings are balanced, only to come with three quarters wolf GTH reads.

Wondered why TSP's sole game-focused point thus far was on Epignosis.

It's leetic

It's nai

Got a read on them, then?

Nope if I did I would've said it

[Delta]

caught up \o/ kinda

I think so far Abi is fine, Epi is fine, LC is probably? fine, Ricochet is probably fine & Porscha is probably fine

Maybe a little much this early? But rolling with it anyway \o/ nothing solid reasoning wise but more 'idk feels fine' so

[Delta]

@pyxxy get over here >:c I'm not over how the mountainous game ended

[sig]

And here I was...

...rejoicing at not having to look at 81+ posts of cartoons that could get me arrested in some jurisdictions....

...only to realize I was looking at the wrong list of names.

Let’s be real this is the superior half of the game

Rip the east side they’ll probably have a million fluff posts and Gullio/Allison flaming each other over some nonsense (no offense when you eventually read this )