Game of Champions: East Facility (Night 2)

[Sabiplz]

[VOTE: Nutella ] aubergine

Rondo what are you cooking

[nutella]

i think rondo and guillo are both town

i think the scum are more likely to be blendy and more cooperative, the people being loud and aggressive are prob town

Tell me more about your read on Rondo pls

Eh it's a very light one since I know he can do this as wolf too but he seems to believe what he's saying even if it doesn't always make sense to me

[Michelle]

Towny:
Wwa
Creature
Nutella
Nook

Squint
Cape
Wilgz
Lemon

Scummy
Alison
Limecoke

Why is nook town?
Am I so forgetful to not receive a read?

Tone and the fact he's actually giving a fuck about the Game and providing drive by reads. Yes I know the bar is low.

Also going to be honest, I was going to sponge brad's read on you if he was actually around. I struggle to read you most games. This is one of those games.

Noon doesn't care about the game imo.
Can you quote any post where you think he does?

Low bar alert:
His drive by reads on Guillo, you, and dizzy

And for that he's so high on your reads ?
Where's the bar then? On the floor?

[nutella]

i think rondo and guillo are both town

i think the scum are more likely to be blendy and more cooperative, the people being loud and aggressive are prob town

Cause Michelle quoted this, I saw it. And I'd like to ask, if you think scum is more blendy and cooperative, and town is loud and aggressive, why then did you say that my being aggressive and pushing Alison and you feels scummy?

I in fact backed off on you for partially this very reason. I originally thought your reactionary aggressiveness was just bluntly scummy but changed my mind (maybe)

[Michelle]

The thread is too silent. I know is Sunday night in America but that's an hour of intense activity here.
Nothing is threatening the wolves, ig

no one is voting you atm

You tunneled my friend without any logical reason.
Your narrative that you want to find wolves is just words, you are ignoring the wolves and you push villagers.
One, I am 99% sure, Guillo/Creature is a villa slot, another I am 100% sure, I am villager.

Your agenda is obviously not pro town.
I am not posting this for you, I am posting it for everyone to understand why I wolf read you.

[Sabiplz]

Towny:
Wwa
Creature
Nutella
Nook

Squint
Cape
Wilgz
Lemon

Scummy
Alison
Limecoke

Why is nook town?
Am I so forgetful to not receive a read?

Tone and the fact he's actually giving a fuck about the Game and providing drive by reads. Yes I know the bar is low.

Also going to be honest, I was going to sponge brad's read on you if he was actually around. I struggle to read you most games. This is one of those games.

Noon doesn't care about the game imo.
Can you quote any post where you think he does?

Low bar alert:
His drive by reads on Guillo, you, and dizzy

And for that he's so high on your reads ?
Where's the bar then? On the floor?

Yes because I'm used to low effort Nook? My view of wolf Nook is he wouldn't even give those reads

Obviously I'm waiting on the game that wwa mentioned to see if it's similar. If it's similar I will drop him from my reads

[Michelle]

i think rondo and guillo are both town

i think the scum are more likely to be blendy and more cooperative, the people being loud and aggressive are prob town

Tell me more about your read on Rondo pls

Eh it's a very light one since I know he can do this as wolf too but he seems to believe what he's saying even if it doesn't always make sense to me

I don't believe scum Rondo can't back up his posts with confidence.

[Michelle]

Towny:
Wwa
Creature
Nutella
Nook

Squint
Cape
Wilgz
Lemon

Scummy
Alison
Limecoke

Why is nook town?
Am I so forgetful to not receive a read?

Tone and the fact he's actually giving a fuck about the Game and providing drive by reads. Yes I know the bar is low.

Also going to be honest, I was going to sponge brad's read on you if he was actually around. I struggle to read you most games. This is one of those games.

Noon doesn't care about the game imo.
Can you quote any post where you think he does?

Low bar alert:
His drive by reads on Guillo, you, and dizzy

And for that he's so high on your reads ?
Where's the bar then? On the floor?

Yes because I'm used to low effort Nook? My view of wolf Nook is he wouldn't even give those reads

Obviously I'm waiting on the game that wwa mentioned to see if it's similar. If it's similar I will drop him from my reads

Nook ends by voting me regardless alignament.
His scum range is so similar with his town range especially because he is playing so minimalist and low efforting.

[nutella]

yeah rondo can still be scum idk. he hasn't explained what his issues with me are and asked me something that made no sense

[nutella]

poke poke

[nutella]

man this is just severance i got put in the dead thread, the other one has both abi and cait they probably have like 40 pages by now

[Sabiplz]

I'm here I'm here. Just was watching true detective

[Sabiplz]

I don't know what to say.

Thread feels weird.

There isn't a consensus for anything.

We have afk slots up the wazoo.

Trying to push the game forward is like pulling teetn

[Sabiplz]

I JUST WANT SOMETHING TO HAPPEN.

DO SOMETHING PEOPLE

STIR THE POT.

COOK SOMETHING.

[RondoDimBuckle]

I JUST WANT SOMETHING TO HAPPEN.

DO SOMETHING PEOPLE

STIR THE POT.

COOK SOMETHING.

I don't know what to say.

Thread feels weird.

There isn't a consensus for anything.

We have afk slots up the wazoo.

Trying to push the game forward is like pulling teetn

explain why you left me out of every reads list youve posted so far?

Explain why you are defending nutella when I vote them

[Sabiplz]

I JUST WANT SOMETHING TO HAPPEN.

DO SOMETHING PEOPLE

STIR THE POT.

COOK SOMETHING.

I don't know what to say.

Thread feels weird.

There isn't a consensus for anything.

We have afk slots up the wazoo.

Trying to push the game forward is like pulling teetn

explain why you left me out of every reads list youve posted so far?

Explain why you are defending nutella when I vote them

You are an enigma so far this game. I can't put you in a neat little box. There is some hints of town Rondo that I remember but then you do stuff that makes me squint.

Because nutella is towny. Why else

[Sabiplz]

Good night

[nutella]

i refuse to be voted by rondo if he continues to refuse to interact with my posts

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Guillo who are your top townies?

In this thread?

Michelle
Wilgy
Rondo
Soft lean on nutella.
Sabi

Why Rondo?

It is hard to explain.

hmm

Back when i thought Cape90 slipped, i kinda didn't believe in it myself. I thought it was a reach but I decided to vote Cape90 regardless to see how he reacted, then he came in and ruined my RT and I got annoyed. I think he believed my approach towards Cape90 was a reach and he voted me, which I didn't want to admit it back then because again, I was annoyed at him, but after a cool off head I cant really blame him in hindsight.

And also because he was the first to catch you in what i thought you were slipping, he called you out on "you can see the thread"?

I entertained various scenarios about what went down there such as:

a) Was Rondo warning Michelle that she slipped?
If so, could be it a w/w interaction?

or

b) Was Rondo trying to put Michelle under a spotlight with that one?
If so, then that unaligns Rondo from Michelle very hard.

or

c) Was Rondo trying to set Michelle up for a mislunch later with that one?
If so, what does it mean? does it mean scum knows they cant read both divisions?

And then I thought and I thought more in depth and came to the realization that the simplest solution is B, Rondo wanted to bring attention on your "slip" and that was towny because when I saw it, that was my impulse as well.

My take is that he is an antitown who only cares aboit himself.

[VOTE: guillo] aubergine

You ignored my question.
Share your reads Nook, your game presence and votes are unacceptable.

Oh no, they're unacceptable, whatever am I going to do

[Cape90]

Serious question: Any good ideas for how to get into the game? What is the most interesting thing or player here?

I have thoughts based on glances, and they might even be good. But I'll wait a bit to share them

why not let all your thoughts out?

[Cape90]

Yeah, I just don't seem to be able to play like that anymore as town. This should actually town lock me, but only Nook will do that, cause only Nook is cool enough.

But the last couple of times I didn't read the game and only glanced here and there, my reads were fire and the best in the game lol

Not counting on that happening here, but would be nice

be able to play as what? not looking at the top wagons?

[DarlingMonroe]

I JUST WANT SOMETHING TO HAPPEN.

DO SOMETHING PEOPLE

STIR THE POT.

COOK SOMETHING.

Have you heard of a slow burn? As the day unfolds, more will occur. As of now, I am okay with letting with the current thread flow naturally. About 18 hrs left, still. I feel like the last 6 hours everything will kinda explode.

[Cape90]

Serious question: Any good ideas for how to get into the game? What is the most interesting thing or player here?

I have thoughts based on glances, and they might even be good. But I'll wait a bit to share them

Do you have a take on the top wagons?

Actually yeah

I think Cape posts kind of like how wolves would post pacing wise, probably with TMI. The TWTBW comment about me also kind of doesn't make sense as a though. Like, I imagine I'd be more not doing anything than "wolfy". I probably haven't read an entire Cape post, but glance vibe wise, it feels like it could be correct

I also don't actually know what the top wagons are, since I haven't vote yet, but I think it's Cape and Guillo. Haven't read Guillo's posts either so =p

I realise this is probably annoying whoops

Porscha, Tony, Nut are town

pacing wise? am i posting less then you would assume i would as town?, you say my posts arent making sense on you but this hardly makes sense to me. Don't know how nutella likes this word salad other then it fueling their ego

[Cape90]

This should actually town lock me, but only Nook will do that, cause only Nook is cool enough.

I might. Iirc I correctly found you town for similar reasons when speccing the last spec chat invitational. Not sure yet here but leaning that way

posts like this remind me of why I used to be so trash at reading you

having mafia'd with you i know this isn't how you wolf post but lmao

[DarlingMonroe]

@Lime Coke can u at least post and let us know your busy? I dont feel like voting for anyone else that is playing when there's somebody with 0 posts.



gonna get some rest now

[Cape90]

Good morning!

Spoiler: show

Who is trying to sabotage the team?
Poll runs till Tue Jan 30, 2024 2:00 am
Please note that if you vote, your vote will be visible.

You may select 1 option


Alison
1
11%
Voters: Sabiplz
Cape90
0
No votes
Voters: None
DarlingMonroe
0
No votes
Voters: None
Davos
0
No votes
Voters: None
DrWilgy
0
No votes
Voters: None
Dyslexicon
0
No votes
Voters: None
Guillotine
2
22%
Voters: RondoDimBuckle, Alison
Lemonfairy
0
No votes
Voters: None
Lime Coke
0
No votes
Voters: None
Master Radishes
0
No votes
Voters: None
Michelle
0
No votes
Voters: None
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
0
No votes
Voters: None
nutella
2
22%
Voters: WindwardAway, Guillotine
RondoDimBuckle
0
No votes
Voters: None
Sabiplz
0
No votes
Voters: None
WindwardAway
0
No votes
Voters: None
Unvote
1
11%
Voters: Cape90
Coaches/Spectators/Other
3
33%
Voters: Scotty, S~V~S, JaggedJimmyJay
Total votes: 9

I only read page 1, and I have some to read from N0 as well.
This half of the playerslist is cool, I wonder if it's randomly divided but probably I will not get any answers.

Rondo nitpicking 2 posts from Wind doesn't look good for me.
Also Alison's scum read for Sabi is kind of meta related and I get it. But I was in the game where Sabi said she will retire and I can understand her hate for the game and where it's coming from.

Looking at the votes now I see no voters on Wind so something happened.

Also @Cape90 please vote in the thread using [ vote]player name[ /vote] without blancs

I know how to vote I just haven't decided on who yet, was thinking mayyyyyybe Rondo, he likes to push me which he hasn't mysteriously this game. I don't think I want to push WWA right now

So?

when we are both town, I am like a magnet of attraction to you usually and i really do not think my posting has been drastically different from those other times. honestly i have been a tad lazier admittedly, but because i know i am posting from a town POV, i just found it maybe eyebrow raising when i dont see said pushing me behavior.

i dunno maybe i am posting differently and not seeing it, it's a similar read sadbi has on my townread on them (though that's more for me melding with their suspicion on leetic over anything else) and i know sadbi is wrong on that front

[Cape90]

@Michelle whom are you willing to compromise a vote on at the moment?

Same for @Cape90 @DarlingMonroe @Lemonfairy @DrWilgy and @Dyslexicon

Was thinking of going back to michelle when i left just because I really didn't have much an impression there, but i think she is getting better

[Master Radishes]

I'm skimming along but was busy with people over yesterday.

I have nothing original to add.

I'm leaning town on Nutella and Michelle, both for reasons along the lines of 'seem like their town selves' (mostly an overall thing but there were a post or two each I felt were posts more likely made by town!them).

I've not liked Alison since N0 but everyone is already on that so I don't think it's productive to prod that again just yet. I think Nutella's case on Cape was /interesting/ and since then I can't help but read Cape's post such as one up there ^ and see a wolf trying to blend in.

[Cape90]

From Lemonfairy

I was going to wait until D1 before actually using my brain but here's where I'm at from a quick read:

nutella - nutella is just vibing, and we love that
Epi - posts are funny
pyxxy - idk like "one of the cool kids" vibes
falcon - sarcasm on point, tickled my sense of humor
Porscha/Abigail - uwu but chilling, feels like they're having their own little tea party or something
sig - idk, just feels reliable

Windward - awkward feels
Guillo - Guillo feels like they're try-harding, which could swing either way but it clashes with idk the thread ambience a little
Alison - came on strong, not vibing

everyone else is null or I don't remember
no particular order within groupings

Yah those reads are not really reads, those are impressions on players, and most of them are not alignment indicative.

Exactly. And Cape jumped to TR it.

Now I have to understand why would town Cape do that.
There are a few reasons for it , but for now I think Nut is right.
I unvoted though to not put pressure on Cape if this is wrong, and I want more content from him

they are very clearly reads, look at the way they are formatted. I also just don't think mafia just make a reads list that early that's based on basically "vibes"

[Master Radishes]

I think Nutella's case on Cape was /interesting/ and since then I can't help but read Cape's post such as one up there ^ and see a wolf trying to blend in.

This one btw, was too lazy to grab the quote when typing my post:

This should actually town lock me, but only Nook will do that, cause only Nook is cool enough.

I might. Iirc I correctly found you town for similar reasons when speccing the last spec chat invitational. Not sure yet here but leaning that way

posts like this remind me of why I used to be so trash at reading you

having mafia'd with you i know this isn't how you wolf post but lmao

Feels like he's trying to be buddy buddy with his main accuser.

Not a strong thing just what was in my mind most recently, having just woken up and skimmed what I've missed.

[Master Radishes]

Since Nook is being the sassy one this game, I'll try to be nice and helpful instead.

I'm willing to expand on things, just be warned that I find it hard to spell out D1 impressions.

[WindwardAway]

Towny:
Wwa
Creature
Nutella
Nook

Squint
Cape
Wilgz
Lemon

Scummy
Alison
Limecoke

Why is nook town?
Am I so forgetful to not receive a read?

Tone and the fact he's actually giving a fuck about the Game and providing drive by reads. Yes I know the bar is low.

Also going to be honest, I was going to sponge brad's read on you if he was actually around. I struggle to read you most games. This is one of those games.

Last time I saw nook give drive-by reads I was correct that he was uninformed but he was a 3P lol
So I have mixed feelings on that take

Link to game

It was Rondo's Landlord Legacy Listing game here on Syndicate

[Cape90]

Michelle can read the other thread, meaning either she is in scum chat and she is being fed info from the other division thread there, or scum can do what we cant and read both threads.

1. that isn't what Michelle said there

2. I will say in Severance, only the third party could read both threads, but scum chat was feeding me bits of info about the other thread.

If this game is anything like that, we merge eventually, it doesn't say so in the OP though

What do you think I said?

I saw the vote. What's scummy in my post?

you said you didn't know if you could read the other thread to read Spacedaisy, meaning you didn't know if you could look at what the West Facility was saying so that you could make a read on Spacedaisy.

this is what i thought you meant. Guillo interpreted that as Michelle can see the other thread

uh, i dont know what i found scummy about your response then? [VOTE: Unvote] aubergine

Why are you talking about Guillo here and not me? Who pointed it out in real time? You go out of your way to point out I havent gone after you yet then you go out of your way to ignore me in this response?

I just saw Guillo post that first and that's why i engaged with Guillo on the topic, i should have gotten your input as well though as I was aware you made the comment first as guillo pointed out

[Cape90]

I think Nutella's case on Cape was /interesting/ and since then I can't help but read Cape's post such as one up there ^ and see a wolf trying to blend in.

This one btw, was too lazy to grab the quote when typing my post:

This should actually town lock me, but only Nook will do that, cause only Nook is cool enough.

I might. Iirc I correctly found you town for similar reasons when speccing the last spec chat invitational. Not sure yet here but leaning that way

posts like this remind me of why I used to be so trash at reading you

having mafia'd with you i know this isn't how you wolf post but lmao

Feels like he's trying to be buddy buddy with his main accuser.

Not a strong thing just what was in my mind most recently, having just woken up and skimmed what I've missed.

if i wanted to lose the game i would buddy with nutella

[WindwardAway]

i think rondo and guillo are both town

i think the scum are more likely to be blendy and more cooperative, the people being loud and aggressive are prob town

Cause Michelle quoted this, I saw it. And I'd like to ask, if you think scum is more blendy and cooperative, and town is loud and aggressive, why then did you say that my being aggressive and pushing Alison and you feels scummy?

I in fact backed off on you for partially this very reason. I originally thought your reactionary aggressiveness was just bluntly scummy but changed my mind (maybe)

Huh, all right. But it wasn't just reactionary aggressiveness. I've been aggressive since N0 started.

[nutella]

hey what

[Davos]

Arrr

[WindwardAway]

i think rondo and guillo are both town

i think the scum are more likely to be blendy and more cooperative, the people being loud and aggressive are prob town

Tell me more about your read on Rondo pls

Eh it's a very light one since I know he can do this as wolf too but he seems to believe what he's saying even if it doesn't always make sense to me

I don't believe scum Rondo can't back up his posts with confidence.

I've definitely seen him do it. I made the mistake of townreading him in Severance because he always wolfsided with his vote but he sounded like he believed his reasons to townread me. And he had TMI I was town, lol.

Im not really sure which way I lean on Rondo aorn because I've only seen a handful of his posts, but I should probably solidify an opinion later.

[nutella]

Arrr

Esss

[Cape90]

Guillo who are your top townies?

In this thread?

Michelle
Wilgy
Rondo
Soft lean on nutella.
Sabi

Why Rondo?

It is hard to explain.

hmm

Back when i thought Cape90 slipped, i kinda didn't believe in it myself. I thought it was a reach but I decided to vote Cape90 regardless to see how he reacted, then he came in and ruined my RT and I got annoyed. I think he believed my approach towards Cape90 was a reach and he voted me, which I didn't want to admit it back then because again, I was annoyed at him, but after a cool off head I cant really blame him in hindsight.

And also because he was the first to catch you in what i thought you were slipping, he called you out on "you can see the thread"?

I entertained various scenarios about what went down there such as:

a) Was Rondo warning Michelle that she slipped?
If so, could be it a w/w interaction?

or

b) Was Rondo trying to put Michelle under a spotlight with that one?
If so, then that unaligns Rondo from Michelle very hard.

or

c) Was Rondo trying to set Michelle up for a mislunch later with that one?
If so, what does it mean? does it mean scum knows they cant read both divisions?

And then I thought and I thought more in depth and came to the realization that the simplest solution is B, Rondo wanted to bring attention on your "slip" and that was towny because when I saw it, that was my impulse as well.

To clarify I thought it was a reach and I thought you and cape were distancing. The fact that cape pushed me afterwards and voted me to try to get some heat on me didnt help that.

damn u have a very bad faith world, are you performing the night kill tonight?

[WindwardAway]

man this is just severance i got put in the dead thread, the other one has both abi and cait they probably have like 40 pages by now

Ngl I'm surprised. Usually I'm the one spamming the thread anyway, but I said I'd slank this game and I'm slanking by my standards lol. I thought having 8 pages of posts here in like 12 hours or something was a sign that this was gonna be a high-volume thread, but i came back to so few new posts that I actually did backread everything since page 8 or so. Then I picked some random page numbers and skimmed those.

[WindwardAway]

I JUST WANT SOMETHING TO HAPPEN.

DO SOMETHING PEOPLE

STIR THE POT.

COOK SOMETHING.

I spent N0 and the start of D1 stirring the pot, and look how that went

[Cape90]

[VOTE: Cape] aubergine

[VOTE: Unvote] aubergine

I will give you space, Cape

@Michelle whom are you willing to compromise a vote on at the moment?

Same for @Cape90 @DarlingMonroe @Lemonfairy @DrWilgy and @Dyslexicon

I don't have the strong impression I usually have from Rondo, Nanook doesn't feel comfortable in the thread, Lemon is not towny, Cape is wishy washy.
I know I have to shrink my Poe a little but if Eod would be now I would vote the most viable wagon on any of these players

Michelle joining in the attempt to side sus me and also trying to push cape at the same time coupled with her 'slip'

I was going to give michelle a bunch of benefit of the doubt with the slip due to being ESL (English as a second Language) but there is a lot of other stuff around michelle that I dont like when normally even when I dont agree with her I vibe with her.

so when i flip, your plan is to push michelle, cool, got the memo buddy

[VOTE: RondoDimBuckle] aubergine

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

man this is just severance i got put in the dead thread, the other one has both abi and cait they probably have like 40 pages by now

Yes, 600 posts, super dead

[nutella]

lol good luck to anyone who ever plans to push michelle this game


i have her more locked in than sig atp

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Michelle is lock town she can't be pushed lol

[nutella]

im down to yeet rondo atp probably

[WindwardAway]

Arrr

Wtf
I'm guessing this account is controlled by a player?
(I don't expect anyone to claim this, speculation is presumably fine but don't out your role please)

[WindwardAway]

lol good luck to anyone who ever plans to push michelle this game


i have her more locked in than sig atp

She's town, I already saw enough from her that I'm fairly confident

[WindwardAway]

I don't really understand what Rondo is doing, but in my experience, I never understand what he's doing as town, and the only time I thought I understood what he was doing, he was scum lmao.

I should ISO him before the end of the day tho
I'm just reminding myself