Game of Champions- Merged Thread [GAME OVER- SERIAL KILLER WINS]

[Long Con]

I've never had any clue how to read nanook.

I mean, my one prior game with t!NANOOK had them postcapping early and getting killed N1 and my one prior game with w!NANOOK had them slanking to the end. Their energy here is much more reminiscent of the latter "performance", but my perspective may be skewed.

What game was that?

[Long Con]

(the t!Nanook one)

[Epignosis]

Less than an hour to vote in the Sockys if that's your thing.

[DrWilgy]

[VOTE: monroe] aubergine

I disapprove

[DrWilgy]

[VOTE: falcon ] aubergine

[Long Con]

Instead, falcon is behaving in a reactive manner that I think gives an indication that for him isn't mafia-oriented.

What makes you think that?

He's making a claim that obviously isn't true. Nobody is going to buy it. Nobody is buying it.

I think falcon is streetwise enough to know that he's got to get something going to stay alive when he's got this many votes.

Calling you and me his only civilians isn't going to get the job done.

...so by "mafia-oriented", I thought you meant "wolf team oriented", but you meant "game-oriented"?

No, I mean the former. Your initial assumption was correct.

Ok, so you're saying that acting reactively isn't something mafia-falcon would do, because he's streetwise enough... but town-falcon would act that way? Or that town-falcon doesn't care as much about defending themselves?

[Epignosis]

Instead, falcon is behaving in a reactive manner that I think gives an indication that for him isn't mafia-oriented.

What makes you think that?

He's making a claim that obviously isn't true. Nobody is going to buy it. Nobody is buying it.

I think falcon is streetwise enough to know that he's got to get something going to stay alive when he's got this many votes.

Calling you and me his only civilians isn't going to get the job done.

...so by "mafia-oriented", I thought you meant "wolf team oriented", but you meant "game-oriented"?

No, I mean the former. Your initial assumption was correct.

Ok, so you're saying that acting reactively isn't something mafia-falcon would do, because he's streetwise enough... but town-falcon would act that way? Or that town-falcon doesn't care as much about defending themselves?

What falcon is doing is a dead-end street. Nobody buys "I'm literally towning my ass off."

What mafia says that shit?

[leetic]

I've never had any clue how to read nanook.

I mean, my one prior game with t!NANOOK had them postcapping early and getting killed N1 and my one prior game with w!NANOOK had them slanking to the end. Their energy here is much more reminiscent of the latter "performance", but my perspective may be skewed.

What game was that?

Philosophy 2

[TonyStarkPrime]

Has nobody stopped to consider that scum falcon killing players who SR him is about as subtle as a brick?







Fur reelz, I have way more panache than that

ugh

[TonyStarkPrime]

As your lawyer I must recommend against

[TonyStarkPrime]

hang on are we talking about my philo 2 cause like I don’t remember that at all

[Epignosis]

hang on are we talking about my philo 2 cause like I don’t remember that at all

Listen, Grandpa. We love you. Please talk about your medications with your physician.

[Long Con]

hang on are we talking about my philo 2 cause like I don’t remember that at all

Listen, Grandpa. We love you. Please talk about your medications with your physician.

srsly

[Long Con]

Instead, falcon is behaving in a reactive manner that I think gives an indication that for him isn't mafia-oriented.

What makes you think that?

He's making a claim that obviously isn't true. Nobody is going to buy it. Nobody is buying it.

I think falcon is streetwise enough to know that he's got to get something going to stay alive when he's got this many votes.

Calling you and me his only civilians isn't going to get the job done.

...so by "mafia-oriented", I thought you meant "wolf team oriented", but you meant "game-oriented"?

No, I mean the former. Your initial assumption was correct.

Ok, so you're saying that acting reactively isn't something mafia-falcon would do, because he's streetwise enough... but town-falcon would act that way? Or that town-falcon doesn't care as much about defending themselves?

What falcon is doing is a dead-end street. Nobody buys "I'm literally towning my ass off."

What mafia says that shit?

It's third-rate play, I agree, but I am just not understanding why it's alignment-indicative toward town.

[Epignosis]

What makes you think that?

He's making a claim that obviously isn't true. Nobody is going to buy it. Nobody is buying it.

I think falcon is streetwise enough to know that he's got to get something going to stay alive when he's got this many votes.

Calling you and me his only civilians isn't going to get the job done.

...so by "mafia-oriented", I thought you meant "wolf team oriented", but you meant "game-oriented"?

No, I mean the former. Your initial assumption was correct.

Ok, so you're saying that acting reactively isn't something mafia-falcon would do, because he's streetwise enough... but town-falcon would act that way? Or that town-falcon doesn't care as much about defending themselves?

What falcon is doing is a dead-end street. Nobody buys "I'm literally towning my ass off."

What mafia says that shit?

It's third-rate play, I agree, but I am just not understanding why it's alignment-indicative toward town.

Am I supposed to just agree with you that falcon is mafia?

Shit, you've got sig leading the charge there. Probably the first time he's been ON a Day 3 lynch instead of being one.

I do not trust Master Radishes.

Everybody else is fine except Wilgy. Just don't know much there.

Are you comfortable with this lynch?

And I'll be clear on this: I'm not voting to save falcon. If he goes, he goes.

[Epignosis]

DarlingMonroe is the play here.

[Sloonei]

I could vote for DarlingMonroe or Lemonfairy.

[Epignosis]

I could vote for DarlingMonroe or Lemonfairy.

Why does this sound like the worst coffee shop order of all time?

[Long Con]

He's making a claim that obviously isn't true. Nobody is going to buy it. Nobody is buying it.

I think falcon is streetwise enough to know that he's got to get something going to stay alive when he's got this many votes.

Calling you and me his only civilians isn't going to get the job done.

...so by "mafia-oriented", I thought you meant "wolf team oriented", but you meant "game-oriented"?

No, I mean the former. Your initial assumption was correct.

Ok, so you're saying that acting reactively isn't something mafia-falcon would do, because he's streetwise enough... but town-falcon would act that way? Or that town-falcon doesn't care as much about defending themselves?

What falcon is doing is a dead-end street. Nobody buys "I'm literally towning my ass off."

What mafia says that shit?

It's third-rate play, I agree, but I am just not understanding why it's alignment-indicative toward town.

Am I supposed to just agree with you that falcon is mafia?

You've got me all wrong. This is just that I don't understand the reasoning behind the opinion that he's town. It's fine, I'll drop it. I'm just respecting your opinion here, and so when it differes from mine, I take it seriously. But I can't justify hopping off falcon when the reason would be an opinion that I don't understand.

Shit, you've got sig leading the charge there. Probably the first time he's been ON a Day 3 lynch instead of being one.

I'm happy for him in that regard. I don't know that that should be informing my suspicion of falcon, other than the fact that sig is also a suspicion of mine.

I do not trust Master Radishes.

I'm not inviting him over either. Do you know why you don't trust him?

Everybody else is fine except Wilgy. Just don't know much there.

Well, he's newer on the Day 3 scene, and we both have an unfortunate recent history against him. He starts out with a and a from me, just for that.

Are you comfortable with this lynch?

I think I'm about 75% comfortable. No interactions with pyxxy could mean that he didn't want to prod at a teammate that was already under fire or having trouble developing trust. He might just be a villager who's just all alone and found himself without something to anchor to before things started getting hectic. Would a beleaguered civvie act this way though? Maybe.

And I'll be clear on this: I'm not voting to save falcon. If he goes, he goes.

K.

[Long Con]

The DarlingMonroe thing is quite convincing, and I could easily end up voting there.

I don't need to right now though. We have lots of time.

[Epignosis]

Maybe it's me misunderstanding you LC. I'll check back in tomorrow.

[Long Con]

It's all good, nothing to misunderstand here. You'll see. Nite nite.

[Long Con]

I've never had any clue how to read nanook.

I mean, my one prior game with t!NANOOK had them postcapping early and getting killed N1 and my one prior game with w!NANOOK had them slanking to the end. Their energy here is much more reminiscent of the latter "performance", but my perspective may be skewed.

What game was that?

Philosophy 2

Holy crap. I haven't looked at Nanook in that game, because I went to the end to start looking...

a team as strong as jagged-mac-sloonei-anne getting sweeped is def something for the history books

Like, wow, great job guys. Never heard of anne before, but those three are titans.

[Lemonfairy]

Title: Lemonfairy's Legacy (draft version 1)

As you all know, I am a lemon. However, many of you may not know that I was organically grown without synthetic fertilizers or pesticides.
Because of this, my lifespan is limited and I am prone to shriveling after Day 1 and growing moldy around Day 3/4.
To combat this phenomenon, I have decided to write a legacy/will both for entertainment and to leave a trace of myself in this cold, unfeeling world.

I will give general thoughts/impressions and an attempt at a read for my fellow colleagues of the East Facility. I will start with a (mostly) unordered list of people who are or were on my wagon and then move on to the remaining people who were in the East Facility. Then I shall attempt to do the same with people who hail from the West Facility, though I doubt this list will be as illuminating since I have not had as much contact with these people. Finally, I shall attempt to make 2 ordered lists of everyone (separated by Facility) for clarity.

Part I: East Facility

People on Lemon's wagon
This feels like something I must talk about not only because they are or were voting me, but because FMPOV the wagon felt abrupt and unsubstantiated. Rather than there being a case against me, as I'd presume would be the case when a lot of people are convinced that a person is scum, I personally think the reasons provided here aren't all that solid. Additionally, rather than being for pressure or exploratory, the wagon has been rather stagnant and has only grown since my last appearance. Despite my sadness and surprise that so many of my East Facility comrades wish to kill me, I do think this wagon has been... illuminating.

The people who are on or were on my wagon are: Sloonei, nutella, WindwardAway, NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, Dyslexicon, Davos.
Sloonei is from the West Facility so I will comment on them later.

WindwardAway - Windward would actually be the towniest out of everyone on Lemon's wagon. In my past read lists, I have consistently placed her in the lowest group of reads until I moved her up on Day 2. The initially reason was because she felt awkward and out of place in a thread where most people were vibing and having a good time but in hindsight, that could have been because she just wasn't in the mood. Later on, due to tensions in the thread in the East Facility between Windward/Alison/Sabi, I consciously or unconsciously refrained from progressing with my read on her (it's easy to misread people when they're riled up/emotional). I went back to ISO Windward at a later time and eventually moved her up to townleans.

Now with regard to my wagon, Windward is probably the only person, out of everyone on that wagon, who has actually tried to interact with me. She has quoted and pinged me more than once to ask about my reads. If I think about it, the only other people who have done this are Michelle and Creature, who have both flipped town. Other than these, there is Cape, who I think is one of the few people who actually reads my posts (more on this later). While I do accept that I have been relatively closed off in my own world, I also think it's really easy for scum (and also town) to push me without trying to understand where I'm coming from when I post my reads.

nutella - nutella, nutella, I'm waffling a bit on nutella. Initially, I vibe-read her as town from her relaxed demeanor in thread while dropping reads (I townread a bunch of people for similar reasons to this during Night 0). Later on, I thought her tinfoil of me and Cape being w/w was interesting as it was something no one else brought up before and seemingly came out of nowhere. Although I thought her reasons - that me and Cape vibed together and were mutually townreading each other - were a stretch, I liked that she was looking out for these kind of things. I didn't really re-eval nutella after this until Day 2.

In my latest list, I moved nutella to the very top with Creature and said I wouldn't really change my read there unless something drastic happens. This was because I saw a post from nutella scumreading Rondo (who flipped town) because one of Rondo's post said something along the lines of "no 0-poster has ever been encouraged to post after seeing a ping and vote on them in thread" about Lime Coke. nutella believed this could indicate that Rondo was scum because they had TMI that Lime Coke was town and did not have access to scumchat, where scumpartners could ping them about the vote. Lime Coke later flipped mafia, which showed nutella's lack of TMI, hence my shiny no-take-back TR on her. The only wrench in this that I hadn't considered was if this game is a multiball, which some people from the West Facility have suggested. In that case, nutella would only be unpartnered with Lime Coke, and could still be mafia or some other evil faction.

As I've mentioned before, nutella being on my wagon doesn't really surprise me. What does make me squint is that she initially paired me with Cape and admitted the scumread on me was weaker but now she doesn't scumread Cape but I've been dropped to the bottom. The reason for scumreading me is because I've been "blending in". Rather than blending in, I think it's more like because I have not been very active and not many people have engaged with the read lists I occasionally post, I have not been memorable.

Nanook - I initially vibe townread Nanook in the East Facility (I don't think I had a read on them N0) because he said something about leaving the thread to go play a game but still dropped some town reads. Following that, a few of the reads they called out as the thread progressed, aligned pretty well with what I was thinking while reading/backreading. Of particular note is the one calling Michelle lock town and un-pushable, which was also around where I solidified my TR on Michelle after coming around from a short-lived instinctive OMGUS. I didn't really actively re-eval Nanook after that. I know a few people were surprised that Nanook was so high up on my reads lists but I think I also unconsciously set a pretty low bar for Nanook because I saw him scum once in another game and I don't think he shared any reads the entire time and just muddled along until he got voted out.

Nanook's vote on me was... interesting. It's like he was talking with Dizzy and then their brain waves magically resonated together and they both voted for me. Just check Nanook's relatively short ISO in the East Facility and no mention of scumreading me. IDK, it's a mystery.

Dyslexicon - Dyslexicon was initially a vibe townread for me. Why? Uncaring attitude, alignment with reads, general vibes. I found Dyslexicon to be a level/neutral voice amid the initial tension-filled thread of the East Facility. I thought their posts helped or at least tried to help diffuse the conflict and I found that towny. Because as mafia, it would be too easy to just sit by the side and not intervene. In fact, it would be advantageous for scum to not intervene because a conflict-filled thread is not conducive to solving. Later on, they dropped a bit in activity and I also noticed their reads didn't change from what I remember their reads were when they first entered the thread (Porscha, Tony, and nutella are towny) so I dropped them in my reads. At this time, I had Alison, Dyslexicon, and DarlingMonroe in the lowest group on my list. Alison (who flipped town) already had 5 votes and between Dyslexicon and Monroe, Dyslexicon felt like the spicier vote so I did vote there Day 2 but no one else did so it didn't do anything and then I thought EOD was 24hrs later so I didn't end up moving either.

Dizzy's vote on me... please see the above commentary on Nanook's vote on me. However, unlike Nanook's vote, Dyslexicon actually talked about me and commented on me (although the comment was a bit waffly) before eventually voting me.

Davos - Is this a player? Isn't it a sock puppet? All it ever did in the East Facility was say "Arrrr". IDK why it's voting for me. High-key kinda sus.

I feel kind of burnt out. You can probably tell from my writing. I'd like to elaborate more on the rest but I don't think I can do it. I'm also coming down with a cold or flu or something so I might just not do the West Facility

Everyone else from East Facility
Actually, I might not do this one too/might do it later but here's roughly the order I'd put them in from towniest to scummiest.
Cape
Sabi
Master Radishes
DrWilgy
DarlingMonroe

[Lemonfairy]

damn, I hate myself

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

all of the people who claim to be good at reading falcon, dead and alive, think falcon is town

These people could all be overestimating their own abilities.

I'd personally love to know who these people are

[Long Con]

damn, I hate myself

MY condolences on the leaked draft.

[Lemonfairy]

maybe off me today so I don't have to finish it

[Long Con]

all of the people who claim to be good at reading falcon, dead and alive, think falcon is town

These people could all be overestimating their own abilities.

I'd personally love to know who these people are

You're one of them.

[Long Con]

maybe off me today so I don't have to finish it

I haven't yet read it, but it looks impressive.

[Lemonfairy]

damn, I hate myself

MY condolences on the leaked draft.

no worries, it wasn't leaked
I posted it before I finished because I didn't want to keep writing

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Out of the other thread players so far, I feel most comfortable calling Cape90/Dyslexicon town. I dont think I can put that into words more than just 'They seem alright.' Would like to know if that's a sentiment shared with those who were in their thread these last few days though.

To a more technical extent, Nutella/MasterRadishes join that list since I dont think the haiku restriction would come from town, even if just because it seems so inconvenient for town to apply to someone, and what they have given so far doesn't feel scummy enough to warrant being restricted by town to begin with.

This is the first time I disagree with the puppy

[Lemonfairy]

maybe off me today so I don't have to finish it

I haven't yet read it, but it looks impressive.

it's not
it's just a thoughtspew

but I will leave now

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

If say I got a gun from someone than I would have used it on Daisy or Sig

If say I got a cop check from someone than I would have used it on Falcon or Delta

If say I got nothing from someone than none of this matters

1. why would you use gun differently then cop check?
2. you cannot hint at mech, just as a reminder

Yes I got yelled at for this

Why would I cop a zero poster when I could cop someone who can actually contribute something useful?

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Especially if the flip here disproves an idea of multiball...

Let's hope so!

Agreed

I really dont want to solve multiball

Caitlin is that you?

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Has nobody stopped to consider that scum falcon killing players who SR him is about as subtle as a brick?







Fur reelz, I have way more panache than that

Ugh I hate that I town read this

Unvote

[TonyStarkPrime]

Bro just looked at philo 2 and sloonei / JJJ / mac / Anne got swept

[TonyStarkPrime]

Crazy stuff

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

all of the people who claim to be good at reading falcon, dead and alive, think falcon is town

These people could all be overestimating their own abilities.

I'd personally love to know who these people are

You're one of them.

I rescinded cause Caitlin than rescinded my rescind cause me again

Vote: DM

[Sloonei]

to be fair, i didn't actually play philosophy 2 and i'm pretty sure that was the game that made me realize i should slink away into semi-retirement.

[Long Con]

Has nobody stopped to consider that scum falcon killing players who SR him is about as subtle as a brick?







Fur reelz, I have way more panache than that

Ugh I hate that I town read this

Unvote

If it's multiball, then the kill may not have come from him.

To be fair, if it's multiball, then Caitlin dying early to nightkill doesn't clear you either.

[Long Con]

to be fair, i didn't actually play philosophy 2 and i'm pretty sure that was the game that made me realize i should slink away into semi-retirement.

Shit, did I say "to be fair" because I just read it?

[Long Con]

all of the people who claim to be good at reading falcon, dead and alive, think falcon is town

These people could all be overestimating their own abilities.

I'd personally love to know who these people are

You're one of them.

I rescinded cause Caitlin than rescinded my rescind cause me again

Vote: DM

Using the vote button makes your vote POP when scrolling through the thread or your ISO. I personally think that's civic-minded and generally helpful.

[WindwardAway]

all of the people who claim to be good at reading falcon, dead and alive, think falcon is town

didn't Abbi change her mind?

[Long Con]

all of the people who claim to be good at reading falcon, dead and alive, think falcon is town

didn't Abbi change her mind?

She just revealed that she changed it back.

[WindwardAway]

also I know I didn't like the Sabi push yesterday in my thread, however, what even happened to that? Sabi only posted once today. Why are we all of the sudden on Lemonfairy?

Sabi's out of town for the weekend so I'm guessing that's why they aren't very active today
they said so in the East Facility thread yesterday and said they wouldn't care if they get lunched because then they wouldn't have to worry about the game while they're away
so tbh I don't think their activity drop means anything

[WindwardAway]

side note, I also agree with whoever proposed we each vote for the scummiest within each facility to make w/w wagons
I think each side has better reads on their own facility than the other and even if we paraphrase, a lot of context can get lost

while we did have N0, it almost feels like I should start over with reads on the West
maybe have 2 separate reads list and then combine them together later

i immediately see this and really question if pushing Lemonfairy is actually a good idea like this just buries lemon more I think, esp when i scroll up and see a bunch of votes on them already

i'm not sure I follow your thought process here.

it's almost like lemon is saying "yeah i agree that i should be shrugyeeted here" like the consensus was here at this time. Like Lemonfairy saying "I also agree with whoever proposed we each vote for the scummiest within each facility" WHEN BY CONSENSUS RIGHT NOW THEY ARE THE SCUMMIEST FROM OUR FACILITY seems rather LMAO to me

I didn't really think of it like that
isn't that a kind of easy thing for scum to fake, though?

[Sloonei]

to be fair, i didn't actually play philosophy 2 and i'm pretty sure that was the game that made me realize i should slink away into semi-retirement.

Shit, did I say "to be fair" because I just read it?

i'm a trailblazer and an icon.

[WindwardAway]

There's min 2 wolves on my wagon IMO, and it's between leetic/sig & MR/Abi







Apologies if you're all town, but I highly doubt it

why those pairings?

My present take on falcon:

falcon is not literally towning his ass off.

Again, that would be fun to witness. I can't even imagine what that would look like for anybody.

Instead, falcon is behaving in a reactive manner that I think gives an indication that for him isn't mafia-oriented.

I'm unlikely to vote there today. falcon should put on his leather pants and start going after mafia though.

I'm pretty sure reactive posts are more likely to come from mafia, though.

I've never had any clue how to read nanook.

I mean, my one prior game with t!NANOOK had them postcapping early and getting killed N1 and my one prior game with w!NANOOK had them slanking to the end. Their energy here is much more reminiscent of the latter "performance", but my perspective may be skewed.

What game was that?

Philosophy 2

Holy crap. I haven't looked at Nanook in that game, because I went to the end to start looking...

a team as strong as jagged-mac-sloonei-anne getting sweeped is def something for the history books

Like, wow, great job guys. Never heard of anne before, but those three are titans.

I'm assuming that's the same Anne who also goes by neopest

[WindwardAway]

all of the people who claim to be good at reading falcon, dead and alive, think falcon is town

These people could all be overestimating their own abilities.

I'd personally love to know who these people are

You're one of them.

I rescinded cause Caitlin than rescinded my rescind cause me again

Vote: DM

ah, I see it now (Abbi back to townreading falcon)
hmm