Game of Champions- Merged Thread [GAME OVER- SERIAL KILLER WINS]

[nutella]

N3 was clearly Arbiter kill on Abi (a Landlord). Sabi was never a MK and so was something else.

N4 was probably a Landlord kill on Rico (an Arbiter). I don't get why a town vig kills Rico. So Dizzy was someone else, probably a townie with a personal tinfoil on Dizzy. Off the top of my head if I think of who might make that kill...

If a townie killed dizzy im gonna turn into the joker

[Scotty]

ANNOUNCEMENT:



Nothing happened.

[nutella]

I plan to dedicate some time today to the thread, I’ll barely be around tomorrow though.

I’m eyeing delta, first the case on them totally disappeared and I don’t recall seeing why, second them voting for me when I was emojied is a bit scummy.

tbh i kinda forgot about delta. not a great sign

well i guess i felt marginally better about them at the beginning of d4 but that did not really hold up bc he didnt continue to have thread presence really at all

[leetic]

Alright, another wolf flip, another time to look at interactions. Davos, as expected, has nothing.

[leetic]

Porscha

6
29%

Voters: ‪sig, leetic, Ricochet, Seanzie, Epignosis, TonyStarkPrime‬

All of these plus sabi is my current poe

NANOOK's only contribution of note is looking at the Porscha wagon. I'm sorry, but one out of six (or seven!) doesn't count for shit.

[leetic]

Nook, MR, Delta I think are good votes.

Lemon probably helps us resolve Nook, so I could vote there, but I'd rather just vote Nook.

MR I'm still most comfortable with voting.

Delta as an option last cycle felt correct and that feeling hasn't changed. This is just gut.

Cape's fine, but I'm starting to question if the wagon is just 'this is fine I guess.'

DM, Epi, Nut, Rico, Sig, WWA all are towny. Maybe I could put Leetic and Sloonei on that list as well, but perhaps get a towny borderline placement.

if you weren't mentioned, it's because my brain is empty and I have no thoughts.

Put Rico in a list of "towny" players. Otherwise, nothing really of note.

[leetic]

Quick ISOs. This list is alphabetical btw.
Delta - Cheerful and cutesy first impression. Posts have mostly neutral/even tone. Will put them at mid now and change later after I've seen everyone. Could be scum.
Epignosis - Couple of takes. Feels alright.
falcon45ca - Couple of takes. Too many spaces. Feels alright.
leetic - Strong focus on pyxxy wagon and what happened. Feels alright/mid.
Long Con - Likes some posts. Probably first slot I feel OK putting in towns.
☆Princess Abigail☆ - Fighting for wolf pelt means this is probs town Abigail? Can see a few takes from rest of posts. Might be being a bit too generous.
Ricochet - Now that I've seen these wallposts, I've realized how obnoxious mine was. Sorry. ISO feels alright/pretty good.
sig - Not much there. Feels alight/mid.
Sloonei - It's kind of alright. Although the bar is set pretty low at this point. A bit wordy.
TonyStarkPrime - I remember Dyslexicon calling Tony town at least twice (not relevant but thought I'd mention it). After ISOing, feels mid.
Scrappy Doo - Definitely better than whatever Davos is doing. Towny tone. Feels alright.

Ordered list:
Long Con
Ricochet
Princess Abigail

Epignosis
falcon
Sloonei
Scrappy Doo

leetic
Tony
sig

Delta

Something like this.
I skimmed a lot so take it with salt.

Again, has Ricochet as towny. This is the only mention of them pre-flip.

[leetic]

DM has absolutely nothing. A bit strange that someone with a much higher postcount has the exact same number of Ricochet interactions as Davos.

[WindwardAway]

I'm out for the night so I'll be back later
Seems like a quiet Friday here

[leetic]

As for Monroe, I was gonna ask what the Lime connections might be, but nutella just covered it.

nutella, what are you seeing in just four bitter posts?

see my earlier
point about the delta thing
really unexplained

nutella, why is Sloonei not mafia?

His posts.


Lots of genuine perspective and progression fmpov.

Is Rico wrong or mafia then?

I don't have a well-formed read on Rico tbh. Lean town?

nutella has barely anything on Ricochet. In fact, the weird hedging on the read looks worse than the people who outright read Ricochet town.

[nutella]

In fact, the weird hedging on the read looks worse than the people who outright read Ricochet town.

Bad take, try again

[nutella]

I've understood for over half my life the simple truth that hedging is a towny trait idk how some nerds still just dont get it lol

[leetic]

Ah, it feels pretty suffocating to try and solve w/ 7 votes, but Goonies never say die

[VOTE: Unvote] aubergine

Master Radishes
-- for someone from East, therefore info-less on falcon, vote drop was sudden, without hint of inquiry or reading into others' takes and a bit of "nuh-uh" retort to falcon calling it opportunistic (even prodding him to vote back). not ideal elements. later more elaborate, dismissing falcon's "exasperation" as outweighed by poor tone, something I do meld with.
-- had a good impression of him otherwise - active in developing reads and opinionated on enough players and events - but this on its own is a mixed bag

For context, Falc and I go way back, so not entirely info-less in terms of what I'd expect from him. I didn't articulate it because sometimes wordless pressure is the best pressure, but basically I was trusting others who were iffy on Falc from the West thread (and hadn't seen anything from Falc that would lead me to dispute their views). And I was playing with wagons a bit (I think I made it 4 vs Lemon's 5). His reaction to my vote made me actually suspicious of him, though.

This is at least a slightly good look. I doubt a wolf asks their partner to clarify their read on another partner.

All the recent votes irk me to degree.

Radishes dropped off falcon for, what, giving him breathing space?
Sloonei is full sheeping (on Epig yet again).

Yes to give him breathing space and also I do have some doubts now.

Another interaction that would be slightly unusual for partners, looks like Ricochet is trying to subtly nudge people off their partner and set up alternative targets.

Earlier I thought about faking being haiku restricted again, decided that'd be no fun, and considered faking being emoji restricted just for funsies.

Looks like I might be a prophet...for Rico.

The rest of their interactions are this meaningless fluff, so eh.

[leetic]

In fact, the weird hedging on the read looks worse than the people who outright read Ricochet town.

Bad take, try again

Good take, wolves always need to second-guess themselves on how their reads on their partners look

[nutella]

I think there's a chance Nanook is town but it's for stupid raisins.

I think there's a chance Nanook is town but it's for stupid raisins.

I have reason to believe otherwise

I am begging you both to elaborate

[leetic]

I think there's a chance Nanook is town but it's for stupid raisins.

I think there's a chance Nanook is town but it's for stupid raisins.

I have reason to believe otherwise

I am begging you both to elaborate

What are your thoughts on NANOOK's vote on you?

[nutella]

In fact, the weird hedging on the read looks worse than the people who outright read Ricochet town.

Bad take, try again

Good take, wolves always need to second-guess themselves on how their reads on their partners look

Does it look like I worried in the slightest about how that read looked?

[leetic]

In fact, the weird hedging on the read looks worse than the people who outright read Ricochet town.

Bad take, try again

Good take, wolves always need to second-guess themselves on how their reads on their partners look

Does it look like I worried in the slightest about how that read looked?

Hedging always makes you look worried about how your read will look in the long term

[nutella]

I think there's a chance Nanook is town but it's for stupid raisins.

I think there's a chance Nanook is town but it's for stupid raisins.

I have reason to believe otherwise

I am begging you both to elaborate

What are your thoughts on NANOOK's vote on you?

It looked like it lasted about 30 seconds so idc, could make sense of it from any alignment

[nutella]

Oh wait he moved back there I missed that. Meh

[nutella]

In fact, the weird hedging on the read looks worse than the people who outright read Ricochet town.

Bad take, try again

Good take, wolves always need to second-guess themselves on how their reads on their partners look

Does it look like I worried in the slightest about how that read looked?

Hedging always makes you look worried about how your read will look in the long term

No

[leetic]

I think there's a chance Nanook is town but it's for stupid raisins.

I think there's a chance Nanook is town but it's for stupid raisins.

I have reason to believe otherwise

I am begging you both to elaborate

What are your thoughts on NANOOK's vote on you?

It looked like it lasted about 30 seconds so idc, could make sense of it from any alignment

He's still on you lol

[leetic]

In fact, the weird hedging on the read looks worse than the people who outright read Ricochet town.

Bad take, try again

Good take, wolves always need to second-guess themselves on how their reads on their partners look

Does it look like I worried in the slightest about how that read looked?

Hedging always makes you look worried about how your read will look in the long term

No

Sí

[nutella]

Or did he mean to move in thread and not reflect in the poll

[leetic]

Weekend laze tis real and hit hard. I wanted nothing but study and sleep and cats and muvis tbh.

Hi ho.

Caught up to page 7 in the last hour. Gonna find another hour, later, to read the rest.

@Ricochet i know it's been a while since you last popped in, but when you catch up, I'd like to hear your take on the current wagons.

I'm curious what your thought process is, and tbh I keep forgetting you're in the game because I haven't seen anyone from West Facility mention having a read on you.

So I'll work my way from the wagons to others, within my capability.

Wagons

Overall, I'd favor a falcon lynch over a Lemon or Monroe one. Grouping bias is a factor, cuz I've played and judged falcon down in West, whereas I know less on why the other two are wolfread or didn't catch all the details from others' cases.

Between Lemon and Monroe, I'd place Monroe within question marks, both in regards to why they've become a D3 wagon and what they've done in response.

So, falcon > Monroe > Lemon

falcon

West - pyxxy connection: none that could have been established, because they interacted with / mentioned each other a total of zero times
West D1-D2 judgement: ended D2 with a low opinion on him and down on my would-vote list; excluding pyxxy connections I considered (Porscha, Delta), he was the lowest ranked de facto. West gameplay resembled current gameplay: brief intervals of engagement, much of which was spent prodding others (with a degree of randomness, never focused) or reactive-toned defending when voted/wagoned
D3 judgement:
-- pretty much the same, tone and grasp of play have not improved.
-- noted him hitting back in rebuttal form at most of his wagoners (Sloonei's characterisations, calling MRadishes opportunistic, bark back at nutella), plus placing three others (leetic, sig, Abigail) within wolf pairings with no reasoning. so pretty much a kind of "you're all bad" howl.
-- parked defense into two main ideas: that the Western nightkills are a frame and that he is towning like mad and we fail to see it. Former boils down to wifom, as leetic also said; latter is not something I can agree with, based on what I've judged. I've read or remember no strong meta read from others on this gameplay, as it stands, being town!falcon indicative
-- meanwhile, withheld to offer townreads (apart from not wanting to vote LC and Epignosis).
-- of his votes, Abigail and Monroe were/are without discernible cause. Monroe isn't even the counterwagon to self-pres on, at the moment

Monroe
D3 judgement: only 3 posts, of which their essence is an aggro response and vote on Epignosis (for their vote / case on them); other reads (Delta ping, wouldn't wagon Lemon) all vague. It doesn't look great, of course, to drop and omgus upon the very first interaction with a player from the other group. But also not the deepest material to make a solid case out of. Hence the question mark status.

Lemon
D3 judgement: I'd structure 3 phases, thus far, of activity.
-- first phase (posts 1-3) in which she mentioned postponing activity and also a statement on the merger being a sensible disorienting moment. I think some wagoned her starting for as little as this and, without proper context if this would classify as a pattern from wolf!lemon (that I can remember), I felt it was undeserved.
-- second phase (pre legacy post), with a first wave of rebuttals (at nutella and Windward). something about wanting to sit more on it. at worst, could display nerviness in face of pressure.
-- third phase (the legacy post): quite a shift from small bites to extensive reads. rebuttal-wise, argues more than the cases on her are not solid or convincing, then also tiers the wagoners based on individual performance. if this alone (or more of this throughout D3), without suss pressure, would have been Lemon's activity, I'd probably read it well. given suss and wagon pressure, I am missing meta info on whether Lemon would as to go steroids, from feeble to opinionated, as wolf. also, a bit funny to have labeled it as "legacy", as if the lynch is a done deal.

tldr: falcon suss (with no prevailing meta info that he towns this way), Monroe who knows (startled by bad form, but tis all so far), lemon no real ping on her elaborate reply

Falcon hasn't shared any townreads?
@falcon45ca is this true?

And actually, the way Lemon said she expires D3/D4 made it sound more like she might die from a mechanical effect and not just because she might get lunched. I could be reading into it too much, though, and I know she can't confirm or deny it.

I am curious
to hear the case on Delta
that has been mentioned


Curious that sig
and falcon are both suspects;
had early good vibes

I suspected both sig and falcon in the N0 thread lol
maybe it's time I should do a little backreading but I'd like to hear the cases on them too

Suspects falcon from N0

"Opportunistic"
is such an overused word
never good reason

It's the cheapest and easiest go-to reason for a Wolf to use as (part of) a reason to cast a vote on someone.

Town probably use it sometimes as well, it's an understandable way to feel when you're feeling besieged.

But mostly wolfy.

[VOTE: falcon] aubergine I do not feel like this is opportunistic, since I've made a case on you in the past, and have you in the red zone of my rainbow list.

I use the word more when I'm town, but regardless, I'm happy to join the "opportunism" :P

[VOTE: falcon] aubergine

don't think falcon's doing himself any favors right now.

Surprisingly has like fifty posts after without mentioning falcon, but does vote them when their wagon is starting to pick up momentum. No stated reason beyond vague "don't think falcon's doing himself any favors" and presumed continuity with N0 read

all of the people who claim to be good at reading falcon, dead and alive, think falcon is town

didn't Abbi change her mind?

Finally, some significant Abby interactions! Speaks on Abby's behalf here while refuting part of a falcon defense

Has nobody stopped to consider that scum falcon killing players who SR him is about as subtle as a brick?







Fur reelz, I have way more panache than that

Ugh I hate that I town read this

Unvote

If it's multiball, then the kill may not have come from him.

To be fair, if it's multiball, then Caitlin dying early to nightkill doesn't clear you either.

I've seen wolf!Abbi kill town!Caitlin on N1 in a game before so I'd never clear her off of that
I think Abbi's been ok so far, though, and judging by what I've heard from her progression in the West Facility, she's probably town

Says they would "never clear" Abby based off the nightkill, still I think Abby was more depending on the bus. Otherwise townreads Abby

So I'll work my way from the wagons to others, within my capability.

Wagons

Overall, I'd favor a falcon lynch over a Lemon or Monroe one. Grouping bias is a factor, cuz I've played and judged falcon down in West, whereas I know less on why the other two are wolfread or didn't catch all the details from others' cases.

Between Lemon and Monroe, I'd place Monroe within question marks, both in regards to why they've become a D3 wagon and what they've done in response.

So, falcon > Monroe > Lemon

falcon

West - pyxxy connection: none that could have been established, because they interacted with / mentioned each other a total of zero times
West D1-D2 judgement: ended D2 with a low opinion on him and down on my would-vote list; excluding pyxxy connections I considered (Porscha, Delta), he was the lowest ranked de facto. West gameplay resembled current gameplay: brief intervals of engagement, much of which was spent prodding others (with a degree of randomness, never focused) or reactive-toned defending when voted/wagoned
D3 judgement:
-- pretty much the same, tone and grasp of play have not improved.
-- noted him hitting back in rebuttal form at most of his wagoners (Sloonei's characterisations, calling MRadishes opportunistic, bark back at nutella), plus placing three others (leetic, sig, Abigail) within wolf pairings with no reasoning. so pretty much a kind of "you're all bad" howl.
-- parked defense into two main ideas: that the Western nightkills are a frame and that he is towning like mad and we fail to see it. Former boils down to wifom, as leetic also said; latter is not something I can agree with, based on what I've judged. I've read or remember no strong meta read from others on this gameplay, as it stands, being town!falcon indicative
-- meanwhile, withheld to offer townreads (apart from not wanting to vote LC and Epignosis).
-- of his votes, Abigail and Monroe were/are without discernible cause. Monroe isn't even the counterwagon to self-pres on, at the moment

Monroe
D3 judgement: only 3 posts, of which their essence is an aggro response and vote on Epignosis (for their vote / case on them); other reads (Delta ping, wouldn't wagon Lemon) all vague. It doesn't look great, of course, to drop and omgus upon the very first interaction with a player from the other group. But also not the deepest material to make a solid case out of. Hence the question mark status.

Lemon
D3 judgement: I'd structure 3 phases, thus far, of activity.
-- first phase (posts 1-3) in which she mentioned postponing activity and also a statement on the merger being a sensible disorienting moment. I think some wagoned her starting for as little as this and, without proper context if this would classify as a pattern from wolf!lemon (that I can remember), I felt it was undeserved.
-- second phase (pre legacy post), with a first wave of rebuttals (at nutella and Windward). something about wanting to sit more on it. at worst, could display nerviness in face of pressure.
-- third phase (the legacy post): quite a shift from small bites to extensive reads. rebuttal-wise, argues more than the cases on her are not solid or convincing, then also tiers the wagoners based on individual performance. if this alone (or more of this throughout D3), without suss pressure, would have been Lemon's activity, I'd probably read it well. given suss and wagon pressure, I am missing meta info on whether Lemon would as to go steroids, from feeble to opinionated, as wolf. also, a bit funny to have labeled it as "legacy", as if the lynch is a done deal.

tldr: falcon suss (with no prevailing meta info that he towns this way), Monroe who knows (startled by bad form, but tis all so far), lemon no real ping on her elaborate reply

Falcon hasn't shared any townreads?
@falcon45ca is this true?

And actually, the way Lemon said she expires D3/D4 made it sound more like she might die from a mechanical effect and not just because she might get lunched. I could be reading into it too much, though, and I know she can't confirm or deny it.

Asks falcon to respond to one of Ricochet's arguments. Otherwise, stays parked on falcon

oh yeah, falcon never replied to me there lmao
so i was happy to keep a vote on him if he wasn't going to counterargue with anything except that he was "towning his ass off" which he wasn't

I think I'll stop here. Yeah, unless Ricochet and WWA had this coordinated bussing effort on falcon, they're not partners.

[nutella]

In fact, the weird hedging on the read looks worse than the people who outright read Ricochet town.

Bad take, try again

Good take, wolves always need to second-guess themselves on how their reads on their partners look

Does it look like I worried in the slightest about how that read looked?

Hedging always makes you look worried about how your read will look in the long term

No

Sí

simply false lmao git gud

[leetic]

Bad take, try again

Good take, wolves always need to second-guess themselves on how their reads on their partners look

Does it look like I worried in the slightest about how that read looked?

Hedging always makes you look worried about how your read will look in the long term

No

Sí

simply false lmao git gud

Es cierto. Mejora.

[leetic]

Weekend laze tis real and hit hard. I wanted nothing but study and sleep and cats and muvis tbh.

Hi ho.

Caught up to page 7 in the last hour. Gonna find another hour, later, to read the rest.

@Ricochet i know it's been a while since you last popped in, but when you catch up, I'd like to hear your take on the current wagons.

I'm curious what your thought process is, and tbh I keep forgetting you're in the game because I haven't seen anyone from West Facility mention having a read on you.

So I'll work my way from the wagons to others, within my capability.

Wagons

Overall, I'd favor a falcon lynch over a Lemon or Monroe one. Grouping bias is a factor, cuz I've played and judged falcon down in West, whereas I know less on why the other two are wolfread or didn't catch all the details from others' cases.

Between Lemon and Monroe, I'd place Monroe within question marks, both in regards to why they've become a D3 wagon and what they've done in response.

So, falcon > Monroe > Lemon

falcon

West - pyxxy connection: none that could have been established, because they interacted with / mentioned each other a total of zero times
West D1-D2 judgement: ended D2 with a low opinion on him and down on my would-vote list; excluding pyxxy connections I considered (Porscha, Delta), he was the lowest ranked de facto. West gameplay resembled current gameplay: brief intervals of engagement, much of which was spent prodding others (with a degree of randomness, never focused) or reactive-toned defending when voted/wagoned
D3 judgement:
-- pretty much the same, tone and grasp of play have not improved.
-- noted him hitting back in rebuttal form at most of his wagoners (Sloonei's characterisations, calling MRadishes opportunistic, bark back at nutella), plus placing three others (leetic, sig, Abigail) within wolf pairings with no reasoning. so pretty much a kind of "you're all bad" howl.
-- parked defense into two main ideas: that the Western nightkills are a frame and that he is towning like mad and we fail to see it. Former boils down to wifom, as leetic also said; latter is not something I can agree with, based on what I've judged. I've read or remember no strong meta read from others on this gameplay, as it stands, being town!falcon indicative
-- meanwhile, withheld to offer townreads (apart from not wanting to vote LC and Epignosis).
-- of his votes, Abigail and Monroe were/are without discernible cause. Monroe isn't even the counterwagon to self-pres on, at the moment

Monroe
D3 judgement: only 3 posts, of which their essence is an aggro response and vote on Epignosis (for their vote / case on them); other reads (Delta ping, wouldn't wagon Lemon) all vague. It doesn't look great, of course, to drop and omgus upon the very first interaction with a player from the other group. But also not the deepest material to make a solid case out of. Hence the question mark status.

Lemon
D3 judgement: I'd structure 3 phases, thus far, of activity.
-- first phase (posts 1-3) in which she mentioned postponing activity and also a statement on the merger being a sensible disorienting moment. I think some wagoned her starting for as little as this and, without proper context if this would classify as a pattern from wolf!lemon (that I can remember), I felt it was undeserved.
-- second phase (pre legacy post), with a first wave of rebuttals (at nutella and Windward). something about wanting to sit more on it. at worst, could display nerviness in face of pressure.
-- third phase (the legacy post): quite a shift from small bites to extensive reads. rebuttal-wise, argues more than the cases on her are not solid or convincing, then also tiers the wagoners based on individual performance. if this alone (or more of this throughout D3), without suss pressure, would have been Lemon's activity, I'd probably read it well. given suss and wagon pressure, I am missing meta info on whether Lemon would as to go steroids, from feeble to opinionated, as wolf. also, a bit funny to have labeled it as "legacy", as if the lynch is a done deal.

tldr: falcon suss (with no prevailing meta info that he towns this way), Monroe who knows (startled by bad form, but tis all so far), lemon no real ping on her elaborate reply

Falcon hasn't shared any townreads?
@falcon45ca is this true?

And actually, the way Lemon said she expires D3/D4 made it sound more like she might die from a mechanical effect and not just because she might get lunched. I could be reading into it too much, though, and I know she can't confirm or deny it.

I am curious
to hear the case on Delta
that has been mentioned


Curious that sig
and falcon are both suspects;
had early good vibes

I suspected both sig and falcon in the N0 thread lol
maybe it's time I should do a little backreading but I'd like to hear the cases on them too

Suspects falcon from N0

"Opportunistic"
is such an overused word
never good reason

It's the cheapest and easiest go-to reason for a Wolf to use as (part of) a reason to cast a vote on someone.

Town probably use it sometimes as well, it's an understandable way to feel when you're feeling besieged.

But mostly wolfy.

[VOTE: falcon] aubergine I do not feel like this is opportunistic, since I've made a case on you in the past, and have you in the red zone of my rainbow list.

I use the word more when I'm town, but regardless, I'm happy to join the "opportunism" :P

[VOTE: falcon] aubergine

don't think falcon's doing himself any favors right now.

Surprisingly has like fifty posts after without mentioning falcon, but does vote them when their wagon is starting to pick up momentum. No stated reason beyond vague "don't think falcon's doing himself any favors" and presumed continuity with N0 read

all of the people who claim to be good at reading falcon, dead and alive, think falcon is town

didn't Abbi change her mind?

Finally, some significant Abby interactions! Speaks on Abby's behalf here while refuting part of a falcon defense

Has nobody stopped to consider that scum falcon killing players who SR him is about as subtle as a brick?







Fur reelz, I have way more panache than that

Ugh I hate that I town read this

Unvote

If it's multiball, then the kill may not have come from him.

To be fair, if it's multiball, then Caitlin dying early to nightkill doesn't clear you either.

I've seen wolf!Abbi kill town!Caitlin on N1 in a game before so I'd never clear her off of that
I think Abbi's been ok so far, though, and judging by what I've heard from her progression in the West Facility, she's probably town

Says they would "never clear" Abby based off the nightkill, still I think Abby was more depending on the bus. Otherwise townreads Abby

So I'll work my way from the wagons to others, within my capability.

Wagons

Overall, I'd favor a falcon lynch over a Lemon or Monroe one. Grouping bias is a factor, cuz I've played and judged falcon down in West, whereas I know less on why the other two are wolfread or didn't catch all the details from others' cases.

Between Lemon and Monroe, I'd place Monroe within question marks, both in regards to why they've become a D3 wagon and what they've done in response.

So, falcon > Monroe > Lemon

falcon

West - pyxxy connection: none that could have been established, because they interacted with / mentioned each other a total of zero times
West D1-D2 judgement: ended D2 with a low opinion on him and down on my would-vote list; excluding pyxxy connections I considered (Porscha, Delta), he was the lowest ranked de facto. West gameplay resembled current gameplay: brief intervals of engagement, much of which was spent prodding others (with a degree of randomness, never focused) or reactive-toned defending when voted/wagoned
D3 judgement:
-- pretty much the same, tone and grasp of play have not improved.
-- noted him hitting back in rebuttal form at most of his wagoners (Sloonei's characterisations, calling MRadishes opportunistic, bark back at nutella), plus placing three others (leetic, sig, Abigail) within wolf pairings with no reasoning. so pretty much a kind of "you're all bad" howl.
-- parked defense into two main ideas: that the Western nightkills are a frame and that he is towning like mad and we fail to see it. Former boils down to wifom, as leetic also said; latter is not something I can agree with, based on what I've judged. I've read or remember no strong meta read from others on this gameplay, as it stands, being town!falcon indicative
-- meanwhile, withheld to offer townreads (apart from not wanting to vote LC and Epignosis).
-- of his votes, Abigail and Monroe were/are without discernible cause. Monroe isn't even the counterwagon to self-pres on, at the moment

Monroe
D3 judgement: only 3 posts, of which their essence is an aggro response and vote on Epignosis (for their vote / case on them); other reads (Delta ping, wouldn't wagon Lemon) all vague. It doesn't look great, of course, to drop and omgus upon the very first interaction with a player from the other group. But also not the deepest material to make a solid case out of. Hence the question mark status.

Lemon
D3 judgement: I'd structure 3 phases, thus far, of activity.
-- first phase (posts 1-3) in which she mentioned postponing activity and also a statement on the merger being a sensible disorienting moment. I think some wagoned her starting for as little as this and, without proper context if this would classify as a pattern from wolf!lemon (that I can remember), I felt it was undeserved.
-- second phase (pre legacy post), with a first wave of rebuttals (at nutella and Windward). something about wanting to sit more on it. at worst, could display nerviness in face of pressure.
-- third phase (the legacy post): quite a shift from small bites to extensive reads. rebuttal-wise, argues more than the cases on her are not solid or convincing, then also tiers the wagoners based on individual performance. if this alone (or more of this throughout D3), without suss pressure, would have been Lemon's activity, I'd probably read it well. given suss and wagon pressure, I am missing meta info on whether Lemon would as to go steroids, from feeble to opinionated, as wolf. also, a bit funny to have labeled it as "legacy", as if the lynch is a done deal.

tldr: falcon suss (with no prevailing meta info that he towns this way), Monroe who knows (startled by bad form, but tis all so far), lemon no real ping on her elaborate reply

Falcon hasn't shared any townreads?
@falcon45ca is this true?

And actually, the way Lemon said she expires D3/D4 made it sound more like she might die from a mechanical effect and not just because she might get lunched. I could be reading into it too much, though, and I know she can't confirm or deny it.

Asks falcon to respond to one of Ricochet's arguments. Otherwise, stays parked on falcon

oh yeah, falcon never replied to me there lmao
so i was happy to keep a vote on him if he wasn't going to counterargue with anything except that he was "towning his ass off" which he wasn't

I think I'll stop here. Yeah, unless Ricochet and WWA had this coordinated bussing effort on falcon, they're not partners.

Especially as WWA was if anything harder on falcon than Ricochet was, and had more of an excuse to join the other wagons since they could have followed the "only vote someone from the same thread" idea. I don't think a partner only interprets their partner's posts in a way that looks bad for another partner, even if they are willing to bus they want to leave it slightly open; I don't think falcon's lynch was assured at that point.

[nutella]

La vida es un huevo ranchero en el sartén del universo

[Master Radishes]

Both of you are wrong

[nutella]

Aunque la mona se lleva en seda, mona se queda

[leetic]

Both of you are wrong

As are you.

[leetic]

Is minic a bhris béal duine a shrón.

[Sloonei]

Dónde está la biblioteca?

[Scotty]

ANNOUNCEMENT:

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Darling thought it was all so boring.

They way people talked, and the things they said. What was the point of it all? It was all just noise.

The people coming up behind her, shaking their fists, waving their pitchforks. Just so much noise. She was good at shutting out noise. She knew right from wrong, and that was all there was to it, and she didn't much care if they liked it or not.

It was what it was.

As they got closer, she straightened up, and slowed her pace. Walked like the beauty queen she was, not giving them the satisfaction of looking over her shoulder, so they saw no sign of fear. By she saw no sign of the bullet.

Darling Monroe has died. She was:

Spoiler: show

DrWilgy (Meta Mafia)

You are town, and win when all threats to town have been eliminated.

You are a beloved member of the Cindy Kate and are most definitely a doctor.

Spoiler: show

@DarlingMonroe
@Delta
@DrWilgy
@Epignosis
@leetic
@Lemonfairy
@Long Con
@Master Radishes
@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
@nutella
@sig
@Sloonei
@TonyStarkPrime
@WindwardAway

[Sloonei]

Interesting

Unvote.

[WindwardAway]

I think there's a chance Nanook is town but it's for stupid raisins.

I think there's a chance Nanook is town but it's for stupid raisins.

I have reason to believe otherwise

I am begging you both to elaborate

I think Nook is mafia

[Master Radishes]

Dónde está la biblioteca?

Me llamo T-Bone, la arana discoteca

[nutella]

hmmmmmm


f

[Master Radishes]

I think there's a chance Nanook is town but it's for stupid raisins.

I think there's a chance Nanook is town but it's for stupid raisins.

I have reason to believe otherwise

I am begging you both to elaborate

Hard to elaborate about raisins

[Master Radishes]

But they're stupid anyway. If Windy says kill Nook, we can follow.

[WindwardAway]

Oh
DM flipped town

[Master Radishes]

Who's tripping down the streets of the city
Smilin' at everybody she sees
Who's reachin' out to capture a moment
Everyone knows it's Windy

[Master Radishes]

Wait lmao how did I miss that post

[WindwardAway]

Wait lmao how did I miss that post

?

[Master Radishes]

Wait lmao how did I miss that post

?

The flip. I guess it happened as I was replying to a couple things and I only noticed because you said something.

[leetic]

I guess my argument that DM's votes from wolves clearly weren't bussing held up

[WindwardAway]

Wait lmao how did I miss that post

?

The flip. I guess it happened as I was replying to a couple things and I only noticed because you said something.

Ah
Yeah lol
Tbh I think it was probably a good idea to clear them from the PoE at this point, so they wouldn't go into XyLo
But meh, town flip

[leetic]

Anyway, a bit of mechanical discussion. Scrappy clearly didn't have a lover aspect, so it is indeed possible that whoever controls Davos is already dead. I bring this up because, if Davos is a wolf, it's the only way I can see there being another wolf on my side to even the numbers (though that would still be unbalanced in my mind, as five minds are always more powerful than four, disregarding any powers they might have). Still, Brad is the only dead person who it could be without Davos being town (remember, Cape90's flip said they were the only person who could see both threads, so it can't be anyone from my side). Davos's behavior would not be unusual for Brad, as he was similarly unhelpful as a wolf when he was sent over to the other thread in Severance. Still though, I would not flip anyone from my side before flipping Davos, and I really thing there are more pertinent lynch targets than Davos (but vigs, do your thing!).

[Scotty]

Question 3:



{CLAIMED}

Nutella has guessed correctly (Summer Sh!t) and wins a prize!