Fallout New Vegas: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [LEGION CONQUEST]

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

What I'm saying is the wolfs are not currently active

Ebwop I hate mobile phones

I don't think so.
I take this a towny from you though.

Why is it towny for me when I don't think I've ever used this read before

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Also why is it impossible that all of us are town?

[Lime Coke]

They talk later about their reasons and it was not the mech post. But you assume it is and run with it and ask questions about that.

It's strange to me that Lime Coke rushes to call you town too given the above.

Creature keeps making excuses for why people are gonna vote him and it feels very defeatist in a wolfy way but I won't vote there unless someone checks me because I can't read creature

It is a bit of a misrepresentation to frame it like this, they made their posts at the start of the day and haven't posted since then. As for me I don't have an opinion on Creature yet but didn't find their early posts to be alarming (though I also dislike when people say they're not good on day 1 like this)

All you can make is assumptions based on the context of what you see. I don't think it's a bad assumption to make considering it was made directly after the mech post in question.

Asking if it's about the mech post and then talking about my feelings on mech is two entirely different statements and trying to link them together into one thread makes the narrative awkward and just incorrect. Along with the fact Lime never said it isn't about the mech post you're just going to your own (ironic) assumptions.

Can you go into more detail on why the bolded was stated? It makes it seem like you think people who come to the wrong answer cannot be towny and that's anything but the truth. It feels like you're trying to nitpick instead of solve.

Well I did ask about Lime Coke's read later and they had a different answer. So I found it strange that Lime Coke saw your post and took no issue with it. No I'm not assuming anything, I ask them in post 57 and 59 and they respond in 58 and 63.

Wasn't really different I thought?

[Chelsea]

Now my hydra partners can get along.

Sadly not going to happen but your enthusiasm is adorable.

[Dunnstral]

Linking activity with towniness when people come from different time zones is not what I will trust as an actual thought

There's a real inclination to townread players who are posting more and assume that mafia must be among the less active players. It's a psychological phenomenon... and has to do with naively townreading people based of "vibes" when in reality they could easily make these posts as mafia


Not to say I never townread based on how I feel about a player on day 1, but you have to pick and choose what you think is actually indicative of town.

Once again that has nothing to do with what I said

How so? Also this was in response to Michelle.

[Dunnstral]

They talk later about their reasons and it was not the mech post. But you assume it is and run with it and ask questions about that.

It's strange to me that Lime Coke rushes to call you town too given the above.

Creature keeps making excuses for why people are gonna vote him and it feels very defeatist in a wolfy way but I won't vote there unless someone checks me because I can't read creature

It is a bit of a misrepresentation to frame it like this, they made their posts at the start of the day and haven't posted since then. As for me I don't have an opinion on Creature yet but didn't find their early posts to be alarming (though I also dislike when people say they're not good on day 1 like this)

All you can make is assumptions based on the context of what you see. I don't think it's a bad assumption to make considering it was made directly after the mech post in question.

Asking if it's about the mech post and then talking about my feelings on mech is two entirely different statements and trying to link them together into one thread makes the narrative awkward and just incorrect. Along with the fact Lime never said it isn't about the mech post you're just going to your own (ironic) assumptions.

Can you go into more detail on why the bolded was stated? It makes it seem like you think people who come to the wrong answer cannot be towny and that's anything but the truth. It feels like you're trying to nitpick instead of solve.

Well I did ask about Lime Coke's read later and they had a different answer. So I found it strange that Lime Coke saw your post and took no issue with it. No I'm not assuming anything, I ask them in post 57 and 59 and they respond in 58 and 63.

Wasn't really different I thought?

When I asked you your reasons for townreading Scotty you cited their vote on Michelle along with them being aggressive.

Chelsea said you were townreading Scotty because they made a mech post talking about how many mafia there are in the game.

How are these two things not different?

[Michelle]

What I'm saying is the wolfs are not currently active

Ebwop I hate mobile phones

I don't think so.
I take this a towny from you though.

Why is it towny for me when I don't think I've ever used this read before

It's not a meta read.
People saying the thread feels towny have the intent to solve many players at once. This is hard to back track on if you are mafia.

Now my hydra partners can get along.

Sorry, if Chelsea is towny she is mafia. If I don't have an urge to chop her, I mean.
I am also sure she knows how to pocket you, so there's that

[Michelle]

Also why is it impossible that all of us are town?

Because in 18 players what is mafia doing if everyone posting at one moment is town?
Mafia needs thread presence, otherwise they're boxed in the Poe easily

[Chelsea]

Michelle has called me a wolf in every game we've played in so her doing so here is towny, although I do think everyone should just ignore her read in regards to myself. That's the only time I'll speak on the matter though.

[Lime Coke]

Now my hydra partners can get along.

Sadly not going to happen but your enthusiasm is adorable.

Your honesty is adorable but also reported.

[Lime Coke]

They talk later about their reasons and it was not the mech post. But you assume it is and run with it and ask questions about that.

It's strange to me that Lime Coke rushes to call you town too given the above.

Creature keeps making excuses for why people are gonna vote him and it feels very defeatist in a wolfy way but I won't vote there unless someone checks me because I can't read creature

It is a bit of a misrepresentation to frame it like this, they made their posts at the start of the day and haven't posted since then. As for me I don't have an opinion on Creature yet but didn't find their early posts to be alarming (though I also dislike when people say they're not good on day 1 like this)

All you can make is assumptions based on the context of what you see. I don't think it's a bad assumption to make considering it was made directly after the mech post in question.

Asking if it's about the mech post and then talking about my feelings on mech is two entirely different statements and trying to link them together into one thread makes the narrative awkward and just incorrect. Along with the fact Lime never said it isn't about the mech post you're just going to your own (ironic) assumptions.

Can you go into more detail on why the bolded was stated? It makes it seem like you think people who come to the wrong answer cannot be towny and that's anything but the truth. It feels like you're trying to nitpick instead of solve.

Well I did ask about Lime Coke's read later and they had a different answer. So I found it strange that Lime Coke saw your post and took no issue with it. No I'm not assuming anything, I ask them in post 57 and 59 and they respond in 58 and 63.

Wasn't really different I thought?

When I asked you your reasons for townreading Scotty you cited their vote on Michelle along with them being aggressive.

Chelsea said you were townreading Scotty because they made a mech post talking about how many mafia there are in the game.

How are these two things not different?

I said that was part of it but it was mostly the vote immediately afterwards for the aggressiveness.

[Lime Coke]

Michelle has called me a wolf in every game we've played in so her doing so here is towny, although I do think everyone should just ignore her read in regards to myself. That's the only time I'll speak on the matter though.

So that's why they should listen to me instead.

[Michelle]

Michelle has called me a wolf in every game we've played in so her doing so here is towny, although I do think everyone should just ignore her read in regards to myself. That's the only time I'll speak on the matter though.

I did it and you were always town when I thought you are a wolf.
Except this time my read is you are town.
And because I was never right I have to reverse the read.

That's the only time i'll speak on the matter.

[Chelsea]

Lime
Michelle
Creature
-
Dunnstral
Abigail

GN

[Michelle]

Where is @MacDougall ?

I have to work, but when I come back I want your reads, sir!

Also @LanMisa how are you? I hope you have time to play this game

[Lime Coke]

Lime
Michelle
Creature
-
Dunnstral
Abigail

GN

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Linking activity with towniness when people come from different time zones is not what I will trust as an actual thought

There's a real inclination to townread players who are posting more and assume that mafia must be among the less active players. It's a psychological phenomenon... and has to do with naively townreading people based of "vibes" when in reality they could easily make these posts as mafia


Not to say I never townread based on how I feel about a player on day 1, but you have to pick and choose what you think is actually indicative of town.

Once again that has nothing to do with what I said

How so? Also this was in response to Michelle.

Which was about me yes

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

What I'm saying is the wolfs are not currently active

Ebwop I hate mobile phones

I don't think so.
I take this a towny from you though.

Why is it towny for me when I don't think I've ever used this read before

It's not a meta read.
People saying the thread feels towny have the intent to solve many players at once. This is hard to back track on if you are mafia.

Now my hydra partners can get along.

Sorry, if Chelsea is towny she is mafia. If I don't have an urge to chop her, I mean.
I am also sure she knows how to pocket you, so there's that

Okie thank you I am adding you to my town core with Scotty

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Also why is it impossible that all of us are town?

Because in 18 players what is mafia doing if everyone posting at one moment is town?
Mafia needs thread presence, otherwise they're boxed in the Poe easily

Well timezones exist no? As you've said and I've defs seen mafia teams just not interested in taking thread control

[Dunnstral]

Linking activity with towniness when people come from different time zones is not what I will trust as an actual thought

There's a real inclination to townread players who are posting more and assume that mafia must be among the less active players. It's a psychological phenomenon... and has to do with naively townreading people based of "vibes" when in reality they could easily make these posts as mafia


Not to say I never townread based on how I feel about a player on day 1, but you have to pick and choose what you think is actually indicative of town.

Once again that has nothing to do with what I said

How so? Also this was in response to Michelle.

Which was about me yes

And you've said town is active and wolves are not posting.

[Dunnstral]

They talk later about their reasons and it was not the mech post. But you assume it is and run with it and ask questions about that.

It's strange to me that Lime Coke rushes to call you town too given the above.

Creature keeps making excuses for why people are gonna vote him and it feels very defeatist in a wolfy way but I won't vote there unless someone checks me because I can't read creature

It is a bit of a misrepresentation to frame it like this, they made their posts at the start of the day and haven't posted since then. As for me I don't have an opinion on Creature yet but didn't find their early posts to be alarming (though I also dislike when people say they're not good on day 1 like this)

All you can make is assumptions based on the context of what you see. I don't think it's a bad assumption to make considering it was made directly after the mech post in question.

Asking if it's about the mech post and then talking about my feelings on mech is two entirely different statements and trying to link them together into one thread makes the narrative awkward and just incorrect. Along with the fact Lime never said it isn't about the mech post you're just going to your own (ironic) assumptions.

Can you go into more detail on why the bolded was stated? It makes it seem like you think people who come to the wrong answer cannot be towny and that's anything but the truth. It feels like you're trying to nitpick instead of solve.

Well I did ask about Lime Coke's read later and they had a different answer. So I found it strange that Lime Coke saw your post and took no issue with it. No I'm not assuming anything, I ask them in post 57 and 59 and they respond in 58 and 63.

Wasn't really different I thought?

When I asked you your reasons for townreading Scotty you cited their vote on Michelle along with them being aggressive.

Chelsea said you were townreading Scotty because they made a mech post talking about how many mafia there are in the game.

How are these two things not different?

I said that was part of it but it was mostly the vote immediately afterwards for the aggressiveness.

What was part of it? Are you agreeing with Chelsea that the mech talk played a part?

[Lime Coke]

They talk later about their reasons and it was not the mech post. But you assume it is and run with it and ask questions about that.

It's strange to me that Lime Coke rushes to call you town too given the above.



It is a bit of a misrepresentation to frame it like this, they made their posts at the start of the day and haven't posted since then. As for me I don't have an opinion on Creature yet but didn't find their early posts to be alarming (though I also dislike when people say they're not good on day 1 like this)

All you can make is assumptions based on the context of what you see. I don't think it's a bad assumption to make considering it was made directly after the mech post in question.

Asking if it's about the mech post and then talking about my feelings on mech is two entirely different statements and trying to link them together into one thread makes the narrative awkward and just incorrect. Along with the fact Lime never said it isn't about the mech post you're just going to your own (ironic) assumptions.

Can you go into more detail on why the bolded was stated? It makes it seem like you think people who come to the wrong answer cannot be towny and that's anything but the truth. It feels like you're trying to nitpick instead of solve.

Well I did ask about Lime Coke's read later and they had a different answer. So I found it strange that Lime Coke saw your post and took no issue with it. No I'm not assuming anything, I ask them in post 57 and 59 and they respond in 58 and 63.

Wasn't really different I thought?

When I asked you your reasons for townreading Scotty you cited their vote on Michelle along with them being aggressive.

Chelsea said you were townreading Scotty because they made a mech post talking about how many mafia there are in the game.

How are these two things not different?

I said that was part of it but it was mostly the vote immediately afterwards for the aggressiveness.

What was part of it? Are you agreeing with Chelsea that the mech talk played a part?

Yes it helped when you combined with the other post but it wasn't the focal point.

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Where is @MacDougall ?

I have to work, but when I come back I want your reads, sir!

Also @LanMisa how are you? I hope you have time to play this game

If Mac doesn't call me town he's wolfing

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Linking activity with towniness when people come from different time zones is not what I will trust as an actual thought

There's a real inclination to townread players who are posting more and assume that mafia must be among the less active players. It's a psychological phenomenon... and has to do with naively townreading people based of "vibes" when in reality they could easily make these posts as mafia


Not to say I never townread based on how I feel about a player on day 1, but you have to pick and choose what you think is actually indicative of town.

Once again that has nothing to do with what I said

How so? Also this was in response to Michelle.

Which was about me yes

And you've said town is active and wolves are not posting.

Yes I've said that but it was not an activity read it had nothing to do with activity at all in fact I don't think it's that complicated

[Lime Coke]

Townread:
Michelle
Chelsea
Scotty

Townlean:
Manny
Dunnstral

I added Dunnstral to townleans because I think...whatever he's doing is towny.

[Lime Coke]

Like the questions I guess are towny and trying to get to fully understand things.

[MacDougall]

M-m-m-mafia

hi nerd

Ha some retirement

[MacDougall]

They talk later about their reasons and it was not the mech post. But you assume it is and run with it and ask questions about that.

It's strange to me that Lime Coke rushes to call you town too given the above.

Creature keeps making excuses for why people are gonna vote him and it feels very defeatist in a wolfy way but I won't vote there unless someone checks me because I can't read creature

It is a bit of a misrepresentation to frame it like this, they made their posts at the start of the day and haven't posted since then. As for me I don't have an opinion on Creature yet but didn't find their early posts to be alarming (though I also dislike when people say they're not good on day 1 like this)

Can you talk a little about your playstyle?
Also if you can link recent games as both alignaments it would be nice

M-m-m-mafia

Hello Michelle, pleasure to see you

[MacDougall]

M-m-m-mafia

Mac!!!!!! Hiiii!!!

Hello Abi. A pleasure as always indeed.

[MacDougall]

And to all who didn't greet me, a pox on your houses

[MacDougall]

Where is @MacDougall ?

I have to work, but when I come back I want your reads, sir!

Also @LanMisa how are you? I hope you have time to play this game

If Mac doesn't call me town he's wolfing

I was going to.

Still am, but I also was going to.

[Lime Coke]

Also... which one was that because I'm sure you have multiple of those in mind?

I don't think it matters what one, just be careful before digging your heels into a read so easily, if I need to keep reminding you of this I'll just stick a note to your forward. Do you have any other reads that aren't town on Scotty?

Why for both? Why maybe?

Chelsea's questioning of me feels towny since she isn't just trying to kill me or get me in a gotcha it's just trying to figure out what I'm doing.


Manny because of him looking to sheep Chelsea but doesn't instantly do it the moment she votes someone and questions it.

Maybe because it's something Manny can do as mafia but I'm choosing to think it's town.

I think you have really naive reads and these townreads are basically for nothing. It's silly to think that they can't make similar posts as mafia or that what you've pointed out is town indicative in my opinion.

You know the funny thing is that I was thinking about these after reading them and I might agree with the assessment with both.

But like...literally even if I wanted to change that because that's probably what I could work on to get better...I wouldn't even know how to do that or where to look towards to start.

Like I'm so stuck on how I read things...and granted I've been back and forth on having issues with it or being just fine with the approach (of course probably comes in after I either win or lose a game and the results of my reads) even if I wanted to change or approach differently I wouldn't know how.

[MacDougall]

Lime
Michelle
Creature
-
Dunnstral
Abigail

GN

@Creature going to require citation on that one.

[MacDougall]

My feeling is most of the mafia have yet to post.

[VOTE: Long Con] aubergine

Ama.

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

M-m-m-mafia

Mac!!!!!! Hiiii!!!

Hello Abi. A pleasure as always indeed.

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Where is @MacDougall ?

I have to work, but when I come back I want your reads, sir!

Also @LanMisa how are you? I hope you have time to play this game

If Mac doesn't call me town he's wolfing

I was going to.

Still am, but I also was going to.

Hot

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

My feeling is most of the mafia have yet to post.

[VOTE: Long Con] aubergine

Ama.

Omg twinsies

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[Manny]

I do apologize you're right it would be a bit boring if you just did what I asked without a second glance. But, you're supposed to carry me why else would I join?

I can vaguely compromise on carrying each other, but i like sheeping more than i like leading

Dunnstral why do u think im mafia?.

I still only townread Brad and Scottie, this probably means im skill issueing in the formation of new reads, but it is what it is.
Maybe i should sheep the consensus and lazily call Mich town.

[Manny]

oh eod hour sucks for me, rough, maybe ill interrupt my slumber for it if day feels spicy later on

[Seanzie]

And to all who didn't greet me, a pox on your houses

Jokes on you, I LOVE pox.

[Michelle]

1. My feeling is most of the mafia have yet to post.

2. [VOTE: Long Con] aubergine

Ama.

Adding numbers

1. Why?

2. Why?

I do apologize you're right it would be a bit boring if you just did what I asked without a second glance. But, you're supposed to carry me why else would I join?

I can vaguely compromise on carrying each other, but i like sheeping more than i like leading

Dunnstral why do u think im mafia?.

I still only townread Brad and Scottie, this probably means im skill issueing in the formation of new reads, but it is what it is.
Maybe i should sheep the consensus and lazily call Mich town.

Why would you do such thing?

[Michelle]

VC

Spoiler: show

Day 1 elimination
Poll runs till Thu Feb 15, 2024 4:00 am
Please note that if you vote, your vote will be visible.

You may select 1 option


Chelsea
0
No votes
Voters: None
Creature
0
No votes
Voters: None
DarlingMonroe
0
No votes
Voters: None
Dunnstral
0
No votes
Voters: None
Epignosis
0
No votes
Voters: None
falcon45ca
1
17%
Voters: Michelle
Jackofhearts2005
0
No votes
Voters: None
LanMisa
0
No votes
Voters: None
Lime Coke
1
17%
Voters: Seanzie
Long Con
0
No votes
Voters: None
MacDougall
0
No votes
Voters: None
Manny
0
No votes
Voters: None
Michelle
1
17%
Voters: Scotty
Princess Abigail
1
17%
Voters: Chelsea
Scotty
0
No votes
Voters: None
Seanzie
0
No votes
Voters: None
sig
0
No votes
Voters: None
TonyStarkPrime
0
No votes
Voters: None
No elimination / Sleep
0
No votes
Voters: None
No vote / Unvote
1
17%
Voters: Dunnstral
Letting Bethesda ever touch Fallout again (spec)
1
17%
Voters: JaggedJimmyJay
Total votes: 6

[falcon45ca]

I AM TOWN!







The strongest of all warriors are these two - time & patience

[falcon45ca]

I AM TOWN!!!!!!!!




“So long, and thanks for the all the fish, JJJ”

Scotty comin' ta scoop my intro

[falcon45ca]

Hi Brad!
I'll listen to that song later in the day


Long Con seems town.
Scotty, not that much.
Creature asked for a toDay pass. I'll give it to him

Hello Michelle! <3

Do you have warm pockets?

What's with this slow start?
[VOTE: Falcon] aubergine

He's been sick

[falcon45ca]

Morning again.

Soo, Scotty decided I deserve a vote because I didn't like his game start, choose to change the vibe by a huge nothinburger meta post, btw a 17er needs 4 wolves imo and an 18er would add a kind of survivor, or jester, something unrelated much with the other 17.
Without flips this has littls value anyway

Brad why did you accept me in your pocket if you don't town read me?
#jumps out
Now I'll search for other comfy pockets...

Also, +1 to Sean because made me smile.
Long Con keeps the top town position.
Brad is ok-ish even if he has empty pockets ^^
If Scotty thinks he knows Brad I have news, we were hydra partners recently so I can make my own attempt to read Brad without Scotty's "help"
Aand Scotty is still underwhelming

The newcomer, welcome to the site! I need more from them.

Anyone else didn't show AI stuff imo.

Michelle is town

[Dunnstral]

I do apologize you're right it would be a bit boring if you just did what I asked without a second glance. But, you're supposed to carry me why else would I join?

I can vaguely compromise on carrying each other, but i like sheeping more than i like leading :pensive:

Dunnstral why do u think im mafia?.

I still only townread Brad and Scottie, this probably means im skill issueing in the formation of new reads, but it is what it is.
Maybe i should sheep the consensus and lazily call Mich town.

Your posting style makes me think you are trying to get by on a vibe read this game. Your townreads feel similar to what other people at the time were saying without explaining why you think so.

Not liking 234 from Macdougall, given there has been some pushback to what they are saying here about activity which isn't acknowledged. I wonder if they are even reading the game that closely which makes me wonder why they can make statements like this.

[Dunnstral]

Morning again.

Soo, Scotty decided I deserve a vote because I didn't like his game start, choose to change the vibe by a huge nothinburger meta post, btw a 17er needs 4 wolves imo and an 18er would add a kind of survivor, or jester, something unrelated much with the other 17.
Without flips this has littls value anyway

Brad why did you accept me in your pocket if you don't town read me?
#jumps out :pout:
Now I'll search for other comfy pockets...

Also, +1 to Sean because made me smile.
Long Con keeps the top town position.
Brad is ok-ish even if he has empty pockets ^^
If Scotty thinks he knows Brad I have news, we were hydra partners recently so I can make my own attempt to read Brad without Scotty's "help"
Aand Scotty is still underwhelming

The newcomer, welcome to the site! I need more from them.

Anyone else didn't show AI stuff imo.

Michelle is town

Do you think Michelle would not make posts like this if they were mafia?

[falcon45ca]

Morning again.

Soo, Scotty decided I deserve a vote because I didn't like his game start, choose to change the vibe by a huge nothinburger meta post, btw a 17er needs 4 wolves imo and an 18er would add a kind of survivor, or jester, something unrelated much with the other 17.
Without flips this has littls value anyway

Brad why did you accept me in your pocket if you don't town read me?
#jumps out
Now I'll search for other comfy pockets...

Also, +1 to Sean because made me smile.
Long Con keeps the top town position.
Brad is ok-ish even if he has empty pockets ^^
If Scotty thinks he knows Brad I have news, we were hydra partners recently so I can make my own attempt to read Brad without Scotty's "help"
Aand Scotty is still underwhelming

The newcomer, welcome to the site! I need more from them.

Anyone else didn't show AI stuff imo.

Michelle is town

Do you think Michelle would not make posts like this if they were mafia?

I mean, maybe?






But also, no